Poll: Both Mary Harney and Brendan Drumm have admitted that they have private health insurance. Do you think:
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Lemmy Posted:
29/09/2008 12:01 |
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I'm not going to vote in this as there should be an option to vote for "they can have private insurance if they want to"
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Ali Posted:
29/09/2008 14:36 |
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Of course they have health insurance and I'm willing to bet a lot of money that they're not on basic plans either. The reality is that they have no concept of what it is like to have to wait for procedures etc... That's part of the problem - they're out of touch.
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Sallie Posted:
29/09/2008 17:42 |
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The point (IMO) is that if you earn over the measly threshold for a medical card, then you have no choice BUT to have private insurance. We would be complaining if either of these 2 high income earners had medical cards as neither of them would be entitled to a medical card.
The only gripe I would have is that if they were allowed to queue jump simply because they had private insurance.
The problems in part in our health service is that people with insurance are perceived as getting quicker access to health care over medical card holders. The ability to pay for your own health care whether through insurance or privately is at the root of many of our problems. EVERYONE should be entitled to exactly the same quality of care regardless of their income. Until they sort out that anomaly then our health service will not move forward.
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brandy Posted:
29/09/2008 18:55 |
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Ali,
100% correct.....and as I've said many, many times....it's not just these same politicians that will 'survive'....it's all there families, friends and cronies!
The next few months/year will show that these corrupt people have nothing but contempt for the ordinary people.
Read....today's Evening Herald p.4:
"€3m compo deal for TDs who lost seats".
Posters....read all of that.... and then come back to this forum and dare to support any of them.....let alone hope that they have any consideration for any one but themselves or
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PZ Posted:
29/09/2008 22:24 |
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Although I intensely dislike Harney, I don't get the shock and horror of this finding. There is not a single person I know who is on an average income who does not have private health insurance. People don't work hard to make life harder for themselves. You work hard so that you can enjoy what money can buy you and if that's private health insurance, private schooling and a porsche well more power to you then.
Just because someone is the head of the social housing department doesn't mean they should live in social housing.
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hammer Posted:
30/09/2008 13:08 |
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All TDs should have to use the public health system. It's obvious
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PZ Posted:
01/10/2008 12:12 |
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Hammer you sure know how to put a thought provoking angle to this - Im totally convinced by you now. Obviously.
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heatherowan Posted:
02/10/2008 16:20 |
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I have often said, somewhat facetiously, that I would starve to death before I would give up paying my VHI contribution! But it is not far from the truth -- I probably would starve for treatment if I was dependent on the good graces of Drumm or Harney!
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Jean Posted:
02/10/2008 18:19 |
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Why on earth can't they have private health insurance? Their work and their private lives are separate. They are entitled to do whatever they want.
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chriswigg Posted:
02/10/2008 19:33 |
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The way the question is phrased means that it isn't possible to vote. What about the option of: "They're entitled to buy private health insurance if they wish to do so."?
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Colette Posted:
02/10/2008 20:42 |
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There should be no necessity for private insurance. If the Government had to share the same healthcare system we would have a Healthcare System second to None, but that will never happen.
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Mary(UGG64756) Posted:
02/10/2008 22:33 |
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I do agree that it is their own business if they have private insurance but yes it is an indication of having no faith in the system. It is essential nowadays to have cover. I do wish however they could make a real effort to see just what we ordinary mortals have to put up with. If they actually took any interest they would see that things cannot continue as they are.
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The Man in Bed 6 Posted:
03/10/2008 03:37 |
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I'm delighted that Minister Harney and Prof. Drumm have private health insurance. Nobody would want to end up in the same public ward as either of them or be stuck beside them for hours in an out patient department.
Anyway its not the place of Public Hospitals to treat chronic incompetence or arrogance and that pair are costing the country enough as it is.
Of course if you think about it they can't really afford NOT to have the VHI or the BUPA or whatever. They must be terrified of what might happen if they did end up in a Public Hospital. Relatives and patients chasing them through the corridors roaring abuse, "bedblockers" emptying their bedpans over them and people on trolleys blocking all their escape routes. It would be a nightmare. Do you know what I think. I think they should go to England.
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Pat Posted:
03/10/2008 09:15 |
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I would vote all three if I could - they're right given the state of the health service. Half the country has private insurance becuase they have no choice if they want to be treated quickly, but half the country are not running the system so it is a vote of no confidence but perhaps if they were obliged to use the public system they would know first hand what it was like.
The fact is Sallie people with insurance are quicker access to health care over public patients or medical card holders and they are allowed to queue jump simply because they have private insurance.
Pz, perhaps the minister for social housing should live in social housing then they would know what it was like also. Ditto for the minister for public transport. Of course, having to live in public housing or waiting for a bus is unlikely to worsen your health or worse, like having to wait for public health care is.
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Anonymous
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03/10/2008 09:58 |
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I voted that its a vote of no confidence, however, any citizen, regardless of who they are, have the right to opt for private insurance.
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Anne Posted:
03/10/2008 22:37 |
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Why don't we all get together and fight for what we want, let our
feet do our talking. I have never organised a march but I can say
that I will be right beside the one who does. I am sick and tired of reading the complaints day in and day out about our Government. Bertie Ahern got out on time before the s.....
the fan, and he caused it.
I am a woman of 58 and will do all that I can to help get this
country back on track.
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Aine Posted:
04/10/2008 15:34 |
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I am not at all surprised they have health insurance. If they get sick they'll just book themselves into Blackrock clinic. If Mary Harney has a breast check you can bet your life she will not have to rely on the HSE to get a correct diagnosis.
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Anne Posted:
07/10/2008 11:58 |
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Hi Brandy,
It looks as though we will be a march of two plus sit in at Leinster House, I don't know what has happened to the fighting spirit of the Irish. what does it take to get them out of their armchairs and protest? is it any wonder there is such a deep divide between the people who HAVE and the people who HAVE NOT. One lot is saying "I'm o.k. Jack" and other lot is saying "ah! I couldn't be bothered, sure what difference will it make".
-Anne
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The Man in Bed 6 Posted:
07/10/2008 18:03 |
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Good News for Brandy. You are NOT alone. Your Protest March is next Saturday. Starts Garden of Remembrance at 2 P.M 11 October. Spread the word The HSE Press Office certainly won't/
Now is everyone's chance to show off their autumn collection of hospital wear and accessories. Strut your stuff in Dublin next Saturday. The march is in accordance with HSE regulations. 1. Each marcher is limited to only one trolley at a time depending on availability 2. Indefinite delays may occur and no notice will be given. 3. Systems failures can be expected at any time. 4. Misleading or wrong information may be provided.
National Protest March & Rally-For a Health Service we deserve and need.
National Protest March & Rally, Dublin Saturday 11th October 2008. Start Garden of Remembrance 2.P.M.
Contact: Public Health Service Campaign, 44 Lower Gardiner St., Dublin 1.
dctuhealth@gmail.com; 087 6229686
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kathy(KBV70033) Posted:
30/10/2008 03:32 |
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no doubt they have, along with vip treatment when needing care while the rest of us wait on a trolly. there wasnt any who-ha when any of mine got sick but when bertie breaks his leg the whole country has to know, why? who the hell cares? i dont. i could say somthing but i know it wouldnt be posted. and bet it was the best of top hosp care he got too. ya so mary harney wont have to worry about the medical card will she?
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Anne Posted:
30/10/2008 14:24 |
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Kathy my sentiments exactly. I can't bare to look at his face because he let us all down all our politicians and getting lots of money for doing little or nothing for us. I don't trust any of them. Having said that I have a sneaky suspicion the others are using Mary Harney as their scape goat, with the hatred that is going on for Mary Harney she is one hell of a brave woman to continue working with her head down. I am head strong and I would be gone long ago. She doesn't even look well and that tells me her her energy is going. Look at the males around her, even Aherne had his make up artist, and Enda Kenny always looks as though he stepped out of a fashion show, I would say very vane.
I am totally sick of them all and I feel helpless.
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