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Poll: Should hospitals with less efficient A&Es be penalised by not getting extra posts?

A) Yes
27%  
B) No
66%  
C) Unsure
  7%

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  jo  Posted: 27/08/2007 17:27
A&Es should get all the help they need; a lot of people will die if they have to travel to other hospitals.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 27/08/2007 21:36
This is just bizarre. There are lots of ways to 'improve efficiency' in emergency deptartments. Cut elective work. Discharge patients inappropriately from the A+E (instead of admitting), or discharge patients in the wards prematurely (to minimize wait time for a bed in A+E). Transfer patients to other hospitals. This is what is being incentivised. Who is measuring whether these are the mechanisms which are being used to 'improve efficiency'? This is worrying, and does not bode well for how the health service will develop in the future.
 
  beelzebungle  Posted: 28/08/2007 13:57
Guess someone must have been on a long weekend in the US and attended one of those MIT 'Manage To Win' or 'Seven Steps to Success' courses and came back with their head spinning with all the quare new things they do do for the eejits back home if only they could laterally incentivise the team matrix while simultaneously upsizing the grid within which the whole network is factored, leading to spontaneous synergies right across the service spectrum which upsizes the gradient of success. In other words, total bullshit. Or to give it its acronym: MBA
 
  Lyndsey(OEH61792)  Posted: 31/08/2007 11:44
That is absolute rubbish, the health service will never improve if they don't increase their staff. What are we paying taxes for????
 
  Marcella  Posted: 31/08/2007 13:39
I think the Hospital are bad enough without putting more pressure on them, the ones that are not as efficient should be getting more staff and not less, as surely it is a sign that they are the hospitals that need the extra staff. It is worse we are getting., Who dreams up these ideas?
 
  minnie  Posted: 31/08/2007 15:45
How ridiculous a suggestion. It is quite possible that some A&E s are less efficient because of a lack of or shortage of Consultants and other staff. They need all the help they can get and then if things do not improve get rid of the managers or administration staff which seem to be top heavy anyway.
 
  Brianne  Posted: 31/08/2007 16:17
Hospitals with less efficient A & E units should get more posts, not less. More consultants in the hospital will increase the demand for higher standards. When a hospital becomes "parochial" that is not good - "new blood" is needed and it is only by employing people who have worked elsewhere and who know how to get things done will adverse conditions improve.
 
  delmarie  Posted: 31/08/2007 18:31
I think this is an absolute disgrace. The HSE seem to be getting it totally wrong - I find it hard to understand why a hospital like Beaumont with all the specialties like Neurosurgery etc should be penalised because their out of date facilities are not able to cope!! The long suffering patient is the loser as usual!
 
  aoife(SLX41104)  Posted: 31/08/2007 22:30
If an A+E is not been run efficently due to lack of resources and poor staffing levels surely they should get extra staff and resources to allow them to function properly and give proper care to the patients.
 
  2356  Posted: 01/09/2007 14:54
No they should be given the money and resources to catch up.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 01/09/2007 21:12
I think punishment would be short-term and that they should be given every opportunity to prove that they have improved their efficency.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 01/09/2007 21:49
Well it looks to me as if nothing else seems to work so why not try it? This might serve to focus hospital authorities on improving matters rather than the constant excuses we seem to hear from everyone in the health service.
 
  Daisy  Posted: 01/09/2007 23:33
Absolutely NO. Conditions in areas vary and who decides anyway. The frontline staff are those that know best.
 
  smithy  Posted: 02/09/2007 10:28
Absolute proof that the government don't give a monkey's about the health of the country, but then if they or one of theirs has a health problem the waiting time gets very short, strange that, sorry but bollox to the whole set up it's wrong, terribly wrong.
 
  Mary  Posted: 03/09/2007 10:12
It would depend on the reason for the inefficiencirs but to punish inefficient hospitals by taking away staff - thus providing the potential for even more inefficiencies seems bizarre to me.
 
  Ron Usmar  Posted: 03/09/2007 15:18
This is not about size or numbers, but efficiency. Last time I had the misfortune to be in A&E, on a very quiet Monday morning, I was seen, assessed quickly and x-rayed. I was then put on a distant bed. Half an hour later, a doctor and nurse arrived. The nurse was despatched for my x-ray (7 minutes walk each way, plus one to pick it up). Doctor departed, nurse returned x-ray to wherever. Three times this happened ie 45 minutes of x-ray fetching, when they could have left it on my bed. I was in considerable pain while all this, like something from a carry-on movie, was going on, delaying any relief or treatment. I was lucky it was quiet - I can't imagine what it is like when the A&E is busy. Why should work practices like this be rewarded by taxpayer's money. The current system of throwing the cash in has not improved patient treatment. If hospitals want more resources, they need to get their ships in order, otherwise it is good money after bad and they will never change. Far from being bad for patients, making hospitals work for the patient's needs, instead of the doctor's, can only be good for patients if this sort of stupidity is stopped as a result.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 03/09/2007 23:14
The HSE should really center its resources on improving the inefficient A&Es rather than wasting money on A&Es that do not need their help to improve their services.
 
 
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