In Vitro Fertilisation (IVF) in Ireland

# 1093

Posted: 07/10/2011 14:03

MCD - Ah god love ya that wait i swear is the worst part and i was the same i was biting the head off everyone in work and i now wish i was on this site at the time i was going thru my cycle, so i would have someone to vent to cause you really need to be able to let some steam off. I so hope those two lines appear for you and that would be great give us ladies some hope that it actually can work and all the heartache, worry etc is worth it. i wish you the very best and let us know how you get on.

wanting - thanks for your thoughts us ladies we will get there fingers crossed one day. hope you are taking care of yourself and keeping the feet up. I really do hope it works out for you.

Moly - sorry no help to you re clinics in cork but have any of you heard of the NA pro technology treatment it is in Galway ( think that is the name of it) i have heard that is gets very positive results might be one to look into. I know you have to be married before they treat you.

hope everyone else is doing ok .have a lovely weekend and mc d best of luck again. tk god its friday

# 1092

Posted: 07/10/2011 09:29

Moly

I was in cork clinic. first time doing ivf, conceived my son who is now 15 months. the clinic is hard enough to go to.  was extremely emotional when i had to walk in the door back in july.  nurses are really nice and chat away to you. peter was my consultant and i wld recommend him if you are booking an appointment. it is stressful and not an easy time

# 1091

Posted: 07/10/2011 09:17

Thanks Girls, thank God that day passed - I did a stick test yesterday morning and it was negative so I chucked it in the bin - then I checked it 3 hours later and it was positive - of course I totally freaked.  Did another test this morning, it was very very faint but the line was there (but not as strong as the line on yesterdays test) so now I dont' know if I tested too early and it was the pregnyl showing on the first test and hcg levels are now decreasing and that's why this mornings test was more faint or cos I tested at 4am this morning and pee wasn't concentrated enough - anyway - I am holding on to to the hope that it is a faint positive but a positive all the same.  Am heading to shops now to buy more tests - will do another test tomorrow and Sunday.  Keep me in your thoughts girls.

Moly - I know the Sims is in Dublin and probably very awkward for you, but would you not consider going to them.  When you see the results that Gi got and I was reading some of their literature when I was there last and they say that 41% of their clients have had mutiple failed cycles with other clinics.  My heart breaks for you as we did our cycles together my last time and you are always in my thoughts.  Actually, I think they have another Sims Clinic outside of Dublin but I am not sure where, you could ring them to enquire.

Thanks Cork Girl for your advice - it was bang on!! Just what I needed to hear, a good kick up the a&&!!!

Dee.

ttc 8yrs. 1st ivf fail, 2nd ivf success - baby now 2 1/2 yrs old, 3rd ivf bfp and m.c at 6wks, natural bfp and m.c 10wks. starting on next ivf march 2013

# 1090

Posted: 06/10/2011 20:23

MdD - i agree with the other girls go buy the test.  i was in the same boat last week.  i went and bought a test and low and behold got a positive.  i am in total shock, it doesnt feel real yet.  i keep the tests beside my bed and look at it in the morning and at night.  i tested 2 days early so its worth a try just for peace of mind.

i felt the same was afraid to go to the loo incase of what i saw - still do,  constantly feel like my period is coming with the cramps and wet feeling.

best of luck and let us know how you get on x

# 1089

Posted: 06/10/2011 19:00

McD - I hope you are feeling ok. The two week wait is very stressful. I do hope all works out for you. I will be thinking of you on Saturday.

Moly - Sorry I can't help you with your question about the Cork clinic. Are you thinking of moving there for your next cycle?

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

# 1088

Posted: 06/10/2011 18:30

McD hope you are feeling ok today, the 2 week wait has to be the worst part.  On every cycle i have had 1 herrendous day crying, fighting with hubbie etc & its so difficult when you have noone to talk to about what your going through - this site can be such a help though, keeping everything crossed for you.

Is there anyone here with experience of cork clinic? Any views would be appreciated?

xxxxx

TTC 6 years, 5 failed ICSI's, 4 - Clane, 1 - Cork, 1 natural pregnancy after 4th ended in ectopic :-( Just about to start another cycle with SIMS

# 1087

Posted: 06/10/2011 12:27

Mc D go to the bloody shop and do a test before you go bonkers!!!!!  i know it is so god damn stressful.  aagghhh

# 1086

Posted: 05/10/2011 14:58

I feel like I am losing my mind today - I have taken the head off my boss for absolutely nothing, am so close to tears it is ridiculous.  I feel like my period is coming and I am half afraid to go to the loo in case it is.  I bought a pregnancy P stick which my husband has hidden!! He doesn't want to test early, wants to wait until Saturday - not a chance.  Anway, this was all very funny up to about lunchtime, when I got so upset that he thinks he can take control of my body - blah blah blah - I just can't help feeling very annoyed and upset - God.....I AM losing my mind.  Even typing this, I can feel my temp going up and I am getting all hot and bothered!!!

Anyway, just needed to vent and you girls are the only ones I can rant at!!!

Take care all.  Dee.

ttc 8yrs. 1st ivf fail, 2nd ivf success - baby now 2 1/2 yrs old, 3rd ivf bfp and m.c at 6wks, natural bfp and m.c 10wks. starting on next ivf march 2013

# 1085

Posted: 30/09/2011 14:11

Isn't it great to know that we are all not such bad b&itch's and others feel the same - just reading all your msg's and knowing that you feel the same as me, makes me feel a lot better and makes me smile!!! Dee.

ttc 8yrs. 1st ivf fail, 2nd ivf success - baby now 2 1/2 yrs old, 3rd ivf bfp and m.c at 6wks, natural bfp and m.c 10wks. starting on next ivf march 2013

# 1084

Posted: 30/09/2011 12:59

Hi all

I totally understand when ye talk about being resentful about ye'er friends etc pregnancies.  I was very bad about 1 of my friends being pregnant for both of her pregnancies. she had a girl during the summer and I must admit I spoke to her very little during her pregnancy.  I can look back now and see how irrational i was.  I was so jealous even when I had had my own son.  totally crazy and mental i know.  i've never spoken to anyone about it as they wld think that i was a right b&tch!!

# 1083

Posted: 30/09/2011 10:51

Hi Ladies,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me I don't feel so bad that other people are feeling the same when people tell them they are pregnant i felt so guilty for having the thoughts but hey am only Human after all. I still am finding it hard to come to terms with the news but you know it wasn't meant for me this time.

DPDD - sorry to hear of your failed ICIS . we will be going down that same path again when we feel up to it. I went and booked an appointment for planning for the end of OCtober i can cancel it if i don't feel ready to go again just yet.

MC D - Best of luck with your transfer i really hope you get a positive result from it.

Charlie - sorry i am no help on your issue i hope someone has some answers to your questions.

thanks again for all the messages this site really does help.

have a nice weekend....

# 1082

Posted: 30/09/2011 10:49

Hi Girls

Just a quick post !!! Welcome all the New Girls !!!

I went back to the Rotunda after my failed IVF in clane in May/ June and they wanted me to have another HSG  and try IUI, which i thought was a bit MAD .... like been around in a circle again I am on the public waiting list and it 3 / 4 months waiting times every time .. so tired and sick of it

So  I went to my New Gyne ( private) covered by my health Insurance !!! which is about a 2hr drive from where I am .... and he preformed a laproscopy last week ... Tubes both open but one is  stuck to my bowel !! something like you Charlie 01. so going under the Knife yet again  to correct this , he was unable to do anything on the day as they need a general surgeon present !!!!

I am meeting with him next week to discuss this op but i dont think they are going to be removed !!!  - will keep you  posted this will be the  7th time under the knife  I have been trying for more than 9 years now so really giving it all .. also  getting my ovarys drilled !!! so fingers crossed this is it !!!

Mc D fingers crossed DPDD  how are you? Moly are you on a public or private waiting list ?

sorry if i missed any one love and hugs to all xxxx

XXXXXXXX POSITIVE POSITIVE THOUGHTS XXXXXXX

Tcc 10years- tubal & Laparoscopic,surgery's- endo &fibroids both tubes blocked, 1 failed ivf -clane 2011, hubby 100%, round 2 - sims Aug 2012 17 eggs, 13 mature - 8 fertilized - 2 went to day 5 with 7 cells the rest stop fragmenting - (dividing ) Round 3 -7 eggs, 3 No: transfered d3 Jan 2013 Sims - pregnant - bio chemical at 5 weeks

# 1081

Posted: 30/09/2011 10:14

Hi all,

Sorry - I have been all over the place recently!!

I had egg retrieval last Thursday, 8 eggs - 4 fertilised (two were very strong, one strong but fragmented and the fourth strong but not as strong as the third, hope you can follow that).  Anyway, we transferred three embies on Sunday (fourth wasn't strong enough to freeze unfortunately).

This cycle is nearly identical to my last one (which was successful and resulted in Killian) so am really hopeful that this cycle will produce a little brother/sister for him.

I was convinced that the two week wait wouldn't be half as bad as before cos Killian would keep me busy but I seem to be much more narky and short tempered and the days seem to drag. I am having the weirdest dreams at night which I know I had when I was pregnant but it is probably just due to the drugs, tho hopeful that maybe it means a positive (but you all know how the mind races, swinging from one extreme to the other...).  I had forgotten there was so much involved and how stressful this whole procedure is!!!

A very close friend of mine, she was my bridesmaid, has just announced she is 13 wks pregnant on her third. I am delighted for her but a little voice in my head, did say "why is it so easy for her....!!" then a big guilt trip cos I am happy for her.

Anyway, my thoughts and prayers are always with everyone on this site and all going through this - But bring on the happy thoughts for us all.......only another week to go before testing..!!! I don't think I will be able to wait until next Sunday tho, will most likely test next Thurs/Fri. 

Love and babydust to y'all!!!  Dee.

ttc 8yrs. 1st ivf fail, 2nd ivf success - baby now 2 1/2 yrs old, 3rd ivf bfp and m.c at 6wks, natural bfp and m.c 10wks. starting on next ivf march 2013

# 1080

Posted: 30/09/2011 09:43

Hi All

Hope all are well as can be, sorry have not been on for a while.. Well i had another Lap and dye done 7 weeks ago out come of that is left ovary is attached to my bowel.. can tell me how that happened was back 2 weeks ago to see the doc and they said i will need to have me fallopian tubes removed or clamped?? has anyone else had this done im back in 3 weeks to get a date for the surgery.. asi have been attending since september 09 and still not even got to do IVF and only 3 months to 2012 gettin abit annoy all it seems to be is surgery after surgery so defo going to ask when back wat the real story is..

Love Charlie

# 1079

Posted: 29/09/2011 21:04

Hi all

Beeeee – I have gone through two failed ICSI. I find this site great. Its great to chat with people going through the same thing. My first failed cycle was last January, I went again in August. I am just about getting over the last fail. I finally rang for a review appointment today. I am going to try again early next year and I think this will be our last. Give yourself plenty of time to recover physically and emotionally.

Wanting,  Moly, Trickie and Beeeee – I completely understand what you say about finding it hard to hear about your pregnant friends. When I found out early last year I couldn’t conceive naturally, 6 people I work with announced their pregnancies. It was like a bad dream. I now have to listen to them every day in work comparing and talking about their kids.  Sometimes I feel ike screaming.

McD – how are you? Thanks for your message. I have an appointment for a review the end of October and hopefully they will be able to give me some hope.  Did you have egg retrieval last week?

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

# 1078

Posted: 29/09/2011 17:38

Hi Girls I can totally sympathise with what you have all said and it's good to know that my own irrational thoughts are normal too. Just found out that two of my friends are pregnant and have been depressing myself all week with the big question WHY ME? Cried myself to sleep last night and noone could have consoled me. I was avoiding meeting them for the last few months and was ignoring their calls because I had a suspision that they were ringing to tell me their good news (both newly weds!) One of them is due around the time that I should have been but I miscarried. I just know i'm going to resent her and her baby....I feel so guilty though. It's so tough and its hard to be strong all the time when none of us know what that the future holds. Hope everyone is doing ok xxx

TTC 4 years. 3 failed IUI's, IVF 1 positive (chemical mc),ICSI 1 failed, ICSI 2 positive (currently pg with twins & praying) Me:PCOS DH: low motility

# 1077

Posted: 28/09/2011 20:11

Hi Girls

Beeee & Wanting i have been there too - when i was on the 2 week wait for my 1st ivf my best friend told me she was pregnant with her 2nd child - she couldn't believe how fast it happened etc etc -i was so glad it was over the phone as i was soooo jealous & it seams like the whole world has got pregnant & had babies since we have been trying. I absolutely hate hearing about anyones pregnancy news & as for been invited to christenings we just avoid them as far as possible, we both find it so depressing. If i'm really honest i have probably distanced myself (unintentionally) from my friends with kids. I prefer to go on a night out with my childless friends as i don't have to listen about childminders, sleepless nights etc. I probably feel like such a bitch but its my way of coping! Like you wanting we haven't really told anyone what we're going through - we told just close family about the ectopic but i just don't want all the pity etc

Babydust to all

xxxx

TTC 6 years, 5 failed ICSI's, 4 - Clane, 1 - Cork, 1 natural pregnancy after 4th ended in ectopic :-( Just about to start another cycle with SIMS

# 1076

Posted: 28/09/2011 14:56

Hi Beee

i am on the other forum also.  the exact same thing happend to me soon after i had my miscarriage (i found out at my first scan that there was no heartbeat), a close friend told me she was pregnant.  i cried and cried over it and really hated her becasue i felt how could she do this knowing that i had lost my baby.  my head was all over the place and i secretly wished she would have a miscarriage too just so she would feel what i was feeling.  i am really not an evil person (despite what some of you may think when you read this) i felt really guilty and bad at the time for having such thoughts but i was still grieving myself.  i have to be honest it still is hard when i see my friend and i have not met up with her as often as i should because it's still a little hard to see her pregnant knowing i should have a baby myself, but dont.  she is due in a few weeks so hopefully it will be a little easier after she has the baby.  none of my friends or family know that i am going though this (ICSI) as i really dont want lots of questions all of the time from people.  everyone is different i suppose.

It is nice to have a little vent every so often as this whole process really does make you go a little loo la as your emotions and hormones are all over the place.

thanks for listening to me xx

# 1075

Posted: 28/09/2011 12:10

Hi Ladies,

I just realised I am on two discussions sorry Trying24 i did respond back to you but it was on the other discussion forum (IVF). Thanks for all the advice. Moly i did the test back in August and it was negative. i have been trying to decided when to go for my 2nd cycle. I feel i am not ready yet but then i am getting impatient. One of my friends told me she was pregnant yesterday and don't get me wrong even though i am trilled for them i was just devasted for myself as it was around the time i was doing my cycle. Ah well i just have to remain positive.

Thanks so much for all the advice

# 1074

Posted: 26/09/2011 13:59

Hi Beeeee

Welcome to the site

Its such a heartbreaking place to be, how long is it since your cycle?  You will pick yourself up & move on - I think as long as we have hope we can keep going!  Pamper yourself & try to look at the positives in your life (I know this can be so difficult - been there 4 times)

I have been attending Clane in Co. Kildare not sure what my next step is - thinking of looking at sims - but waiting on a guiney appointment here in Waterford in the next few weeks so i'll make a decision after that.  Yes i claimed my tax back just fill in your med 1 - you need to have all your receipts but you don't send them in unless they are requested.

Lots of babydust to all xxxxx

TTC 6 years, 5 failed ICSI's, 4 - Clane, 1 - Cork, 1 natural pregnancy after 4th ended in ectopic :-( Just about to start another cycle with SIMS

# 1073

Posted: 23/09/2011 12:58

Hi Beeee,

Welcome :)

I know you are feeling upset and confused after the cycle, from my own experience, its' perfectly normal. It hard to get your head around it and especially when you have spent the last few weeks going though all the different stages of the cycle and just worryiing about the next step. Its very hard to prepare your self for the negative test. I have had 1 ICSI cancelled, 1  ICSI, posive but MC, 1 ICSI negative and one frozen cycle. I was with Hari and I found them good, especially the nurses, you see so much of them, you really feel like you know them.

My best advice is just take some time away from the fertility thing for a few months ( if time permitting, age etc) and try and get some normality back, In time you will feel better and maybe able to face another cycle but don't be worrying about that now. Some of the girls suggest going for a night away or weekend with your partner, it might help.

Its devastaing isnt it to have to wait to start the cycle, getting throuhg it and the not to get the result you want. An I bet every second person you are walkg past is pregnant! Ask anything you want here and feel free to share, it helps to know you are not alone and a bit scary that there are so many!

I have claimed back the tax - assuming you are a PAYE worker, you need to send in a MED1 form and keep copies of the receipts ( don't need to send them in to Revenue unless they look for it I think). You might have to wait until January to claim expenses for 2011 as they will have to see what your income is for the year before calcuating the refund. If you have other medial expenses, the amount refundable is after what you recieved from health insurers.

Also, Quinn Healthcare do give you €1000 towards one cycle if you are on certain plans, that might be worth looking into if you are with them. check out the Revenue web site or ring them if you need any info, they are generally good.

Hope you are feeling better soon :)

TCC 5Yrs Me 35 H36 Male factor and PCOS+Clotting 3 ICSI, 1FET, 1IUI donor, 1 ICSI cancelled, 1BFP - biochemical, followed by 3BFN

# 1072

Posted: 23/09/2011 10:22

Hi Ladies,

I am new to the discussion board and I have to say it is good to know I am not alone out there. It was recommended by my consultant that i join a chat in order to speak to people that are going thru the same heartache and process as myself.

we have just had a failed ICIS treatment and i have to be honest in saying i thought my world was going to end when that test confirmed i was not pregnant even though i knew deep down i had my self driven mad looking for symptoms thinking i could smell everything more ha ha but in end i knew i wasn't.

i am finding it very hard to pick up the pieces at the mo and am sad a lot but i know one day it will work out. Congrats to all you ladies who have had successful treatments. Would you mind sharing as to what clinics you have gone to. ALso have any of you claimed back from tax?

any help or words of wisdom would be great.

thanks

Beeeeeeeeeeeee

# 1071

Posted: 12/09/2011 14:05

Hi Girls

Hope you are all well

Anto great to hear from you again i often think of you & isobelle - good luck with the fet, how did your review in Clane go?

Gi hope you & Kayla are doing well

McD wow your going again hope all goes well

Wanting welcome to the site - we all felt like you before we started trying, its all such a shock!

Trickie hope you are doing ok, we have always done ICSI as sperm is quite bad not too sure what the extra issues are

DPDD hope you are doing ok - its such a difficult road

Mel congrats on the wedding, hope you had a great day!  Is the specialist you are going to see in one of the fertility clinics or is it an alternative type? 

AFM I have had 4 failed IVF's ICSI last one in March, then found out in May i was pregnant total shock but it ended in a self resolving ectopic pregnancy which i was attending hospital about on a weekly basis until the end of July when my bloods eventually reached zero again.  I had an appointment in SIMS for June which i had to cancel so just phoned this morning to make another one which isn't until November.   I also have an appointment with a guiney in Waterford, nurses recomended it because of ivf then ectopic etc thats in October - they were very surprised that Clane hadn't done any investigations on me (Dr did suggest at last review he would take me in under general anaesthetic for a look before we try again but that was after 4 failures) (everything is taking so long)  I collected my notes from Clane last week.  All confused and not sure what i want to do next I really liked my doctor in Clane & felt very comfortable with him but all i want is to get pregnant & have a healthy baby. 

Lots of babydust to all xxxxx

TTC 6 years, 5 failed ICSI's, 4 - Clane, 1 - Cork, 1 natural pregnancy after 4th ended in ectopic :-( Just about to start another cycle with SIMS

# 1070

Posted: 09/09/2011 13:37

Hi everyone – hope you are all doing OK.

Trickie – I am glad you bounced back so well and are doing well.  Do you have any plans for another cycle?

DPDD – I hope you are doing OK.  It is sometimes just so tiring emotionally to have a failed cycle, stay strong.  Do you have any thoughts on doing another cycle?

Mel – Delighted to hear your wedding day was great, bet you can’t believe you are back to work already.  That is great news about your friend, it is so great to hear success stories.  I hope this new clinic works out for you.

Moly – I am sorry to hear that you are p’d off and it is totally understandable.  My thoughts are with you always.

Wanting – Welcome to the site! I’m afraid I don’t have much info. on icsi, except the basic what it is.

ANTO – Sooooo good to hear from you.  Can you believe we were both doing our cycles together the last time and now Isabelle is nearly 8 months old.  My babe Killian is now nearly 11 months old and we are planning his 1st birthday – Cant believe it.  I am so pleased to hear that you are planning an FET.  It is so exciting…hopefully we will have a repeat performance this year and have another successful cycle.

AFM – I had my “day 2” scan in the Sims today and lining of uterus is thin (as it should be) and all looks good, so I am starting aspirin and injections today.  Have another three scans over next two weeks then hopefully egg retrieval on 21st/22nd Sept.  It is just sooooo quick.  I am so excited and can’t quite believe it. 

Thinking of you all – here we go again on this mad cycle.  Keeping everything crossed.

D.

ttc 8yrs. 1st ivf fail, 2nd ivf success - baby now 2 1/2 yrs old, 3rd ivf bfp and m.c at 6wks, natural bfp and m.c 10wks. starting on next ivf march 2013

# 1069

Posted: 08/09/2011 21:43

Hi All

i am on one of the other discussions and just happened to come across this one.

Trickie-we are doing ICSI, it was recommended to us as my dh has very low sperm count.  havent really thought too much about risks as it is our only option.  i suppose there are risks with all of this process.

its amazing just how many people have issues getting pregnant.  why is it so hard for some and so easy for others.  i always imagine what it would be like to plan when you want to have a baby instead of having to go through all of this.  i know it will be worth it in the end but ....

best wishes to everyone xx

# 1068

Posted: 02/09/2011 22:51

Thank you girls for all your thought and comments.  I'm doing ok and i've actually surprised myself on how well i've recovered from our ordeal (physically and emotionally).

Kitch: a HUGE congrats on your progress! It's so nice to hear when others are doing well..really lifts the spirits x

Good luck to everyone who is going through a cycle at the moment....keep them thoughts positive!

AFM: I had my review last Tuesday and icsi was recommended for our next cycle.  Hubby is being sent for DNA fragmentation tests in the next few weeks also.  I was wondering if anyone as any advice on icsi or DNA tests from past experiences? We were told that there are some added risks with icsi but haven't researched it too much yet. 

Hope everyone else is doing ok xxx 

TTC 4 years. 3 failed IUI's, IVF 1 positive (chemical mc),ICSI 1 failed, ICSI 2 positive (currently pg with twins & praying) Me:PCOS DH: low motility

# 1067

Posted: 01/09/2011 00:35

Moly – I hope you are doing ok.  You have been through so much.  It is so hard…..and cruel………….Have you been back for a review yet? I do hope things work out for you

Kitch – glad to hear things are going well for you. Can’t believe it’s the half way mark for you already!

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

# 1066

Posted: 29/08/2011 13:11

DPDD/Trickie

Sending you hugs, and altough i have posted anything in ages have been reading on and off and am thinking of you both.

Moly

So delighted you had a good day and best of luck with this new guy.

Everyone Else thinking of you and hope its good news soon.

Things have been very quiet for me not a (bad complaint) just reaching the half way mark now still cant believe it really doesnt sink in...

Wishing every body positive taughts and best wishes.

# 1065

Posted: 28/08/2011 00:21

Hi girls,

delighted you had a fantastic weddig day Mel, looking forward to hearing how ur getting on with this new specialist !! your dead right nothing to lose.

Moly sweeete, its ok to be peed off, we've all been there.I hope everything falls into place for you soon and that you can be happy with where you are with life.

DPDD, Trickie just want to send (((hugs))) and best wishes.

McD & any1 esle on the meds best of luck and will keep the candles lighting

AFM I'm doing great, my beautiful baba is nearly 9 mths old. I can hardly believe it. Isabelle is just the best thing in the world, my DH still asks me " can you believe that she's here?" and I say yes I always knew but no I cant believe shes really here lol !!

We had a meeting with the Doc in Clane this week to see about going for a FET!! I'm so excited but soo nervous.This is IT tho,we wont go for IVF again. I want to lose some more weight and get healther but I cant stop eating and havnt walked in weeks??? I need to get this right !! Its my last chance. I think I just cant believe I'm going to try again.

hope ya all had a great weekend, love and babydust xx

# 1064

Posted: 22/08/2011 19:07

Mel - great to hear your wedding day went well. I would say it was hard being back in work today. Thats great positive news to hear about your friend. Did she go through IVF to get success? I am doing ok. I am going to ask for another review once I get my head sorted. I am also going to leave it a few months before i try again. I think this will be our last attempt at ivf....

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

# 1063

Posted: 22/08/2011 16:51

DPDD / Trickie - Oh girl's you hae been through the mill I hope you both are okay. positive thoughts to you both,xxxxxx i hope you will recover quickly xxx

I had a fab wedding day it was small but great : just back to work today -

I cancelled my review to clane - I know mad or what !!

I opened my heart to a good friend of mine and guess what she has had 2 failed IVF's spent 10 years trying and now she is on her 4 baby due any day !!! had the same problem as me - I am going to see her fertility specialist in about 2 weeks so fingers crossed this goes well !!! he is ment to work wounders so we will see ...I just felt there was no support for me after this treatment  so why not give this guy a shot , what can I loose!!! Iam also heading back to the rotunda to speak with my Gyne at the end of the month,  !!!

Keep positive girls

Tcc 10years- tubal & Laparoscopic,surgery's- endo &fibroids both tubes blocked, 1 failed ivf -clane 2011, hubby 100%, round 2 - sims Aug 2012 17 eggs, 13 mature - 8 fertilized - 2 went to day 5 with 7 cells the rest stop fragmenting - (dividing ) Round 3 -7 eggs, 3 No: transfered d3 Jan 2013 Sims - pregnant - bio chemical at 5 weeks

# 1062

Posted: 17/08/2011 21:11

Thanks McD - I am different to you in that they said i over stimulated on long protocol. 16 eggs for first cycle and 13 for second. They want to see less eggs and better quality....Best of luck to you

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

# 1061

Posted: 17/08/2011 20:08

Hi Girls

Sorry I haven't been on for a while too pi**ed off with my own life to write anything to help anyone else!

Trickie & DPDD so sorry for ye both - mind yourselves & take it easy

Hope all you other girls are doing ok

Lots of babydust to all xxxxxx

TTC 6 years, 5 failed ICSI's, 4 - Clane, 1 - Cork, 1 natural pregnancy after 4th ended in ectopic :-( Just about to start another cycle with SIMS

# 1060

Posted: 17/08/2011 12:03

Hi DPDD,

Yes, I did the short cycle on our second try.  I didn't down regulate at all, as the first time (cos of my age, they said - being soooo old at 37) the inhibitors worked nearly too well and the antagonist didn't stimulate as much as they hoped.  I only got 5 eggs the first time and 1 embryo and unfortunately that didn't work.  The second time, we didn't do any down regulation and no inhibitors and they still had to double the puregon to 600 to stimulate my follicles and still I only got 8 eggs  on the second time but got 3 embryo's from that and we transferred all 3 (two were good and strong and the third was not bad but not strong enough to survive the freezing process so we opted to transfer the third aswell). We will hopefully do the same process this time, no down regulation and we are upping the stims to 800 this time (as am now 39 - really, really old!!), so giving it everything we can!!

I am just waiting to hear back from the Sims with an appt to start again.  I really should chase them but I am overweight and not feeling fit so kind of putting it on long finger...for a little bit.  I am back in the gym this week and walking more and cutting down on the caffeine so hopefully within the next few weeks will be feeling a bit stronger, physically and mentally and ready to take on this process again!!

Dee.

ttc 8yrs. 1st ivf fail, 2nd ivf success - baby now 2 1/2 yrs old, 3rd ivf bfp and m.c at 6wks, natural bfp and m.c 10wks. starting on next ivf march 2013

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Posted: 15/08/2011 21:02

McD - thanks a lot for your message. How are things going with you? Have you started yet? I was reading over your posts. Was your first failed IVF the long protocol and second success short antagonist? The reason i am asking is my two failures were long prootcols and they are now suggesting the short antagonist.

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

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Posted: 12/08/2011 17:56

Trickie and DPDD - I just logged on quickly and am devasted to read your news.  My thoughts are with you both and I am so sorry.

Thinking of you both.  Dee.

ttc 8yrs. 1st ivf fail, 2nd ivf success - baby now 2 1/2 yrs old, 3rd ivf bfp and m.c at 6wks, natural bfp and m.c 10wks. starting on next ivf march 2013

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Posted: 11/08/2011 12:18

Trickie - thanks very much. That makes a lot of sense. I stimulated too well with the long protocols which may have affected egg quality. It sounds like it is a lot less harsh on your system too - thanks again.

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

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Posted: 11/08/2011 10:40

DPDD: I spoke to a friend who also used the antagonist protocol in a different clinic.  She was told that this protocol can have more success with patients under 39 and who have responded well to other ovarian stimulation drugs and who have a normal ovarian reserve (ie normal day 3 FSH, AMH and normal blood levels). It has less success in women who have a high LH level (ie those with polycystic ovaries, women over 40 and poor responders who have a diminished egg reserve).  In these cases the sudden suppression of using the GnRH antagonist (orgalutron) occurs too late in the cycle and may not suppress LH and ovulation before it begins to affect the follicle and egg development.  My understanding is that the antagonist protocol will allow your ovaries to stimulate naturally for a few days then the orgalturon on day 5ish will stop your ovaries from responding in a matter of hours (unlike the nasal sprays which takes 2 weeks).   It also prevents spontaneous ovulation by blocking the natural LH surge so that the ovulation will only occur after injecting the HCG (pregnyl).   Hope this makes sense but it does explain why it was recommended to me!

TTC 4 years. 3 failed IUI's, IVF 1 positive (chemical mc),ICSI 1 failed, ICSI 2 positive (currently pg with twins & praying) Me:PCOS DH: low motility

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Posted: 10/08/2011 17:58

Trickie - Thanks a lot for the info. Good to hear you are so positive. Having said that, you have passed one hurdle in that you now know you can get pregnant. Thanks again

TTC 5 yrs. Tubal damage + male factor. 4 failed ICSI .

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Posted: 09/08/2011 13:34

DPDD -  I understand how you must be feeling.  It's such an ordeal sometimes and so many things can go wrong in a cycle.  Of course I don't mind being asked, especially if it helps so don't ever be afraid to ask me anything!  They recommended the antagonist protocol to us because I had responded well to some of the same drugs for 3 previous IUI's (I had 1/2 follicle each time which is all they allow).  I have mild endometriosis and my hubby had some issues with low motility which they say are insignificant.  From what I understand, the clinic didn't feel the need for me to down regulate because those extra drugs suppress the pituitary gland and can increase the number of eggs produced as well as preventing ovulation while the ovaries are being stimulated. I had 11 oocytes retrieved, 4 fertilised and 2 embryos transferred.  Unfortunatley the other embryos weren't viable to freeze which is such a shame but I am grateful that I did get pregnant even if it didn't work out for us.  I'm sure they have their reasons for suggesting this protocol to you especially if you have a history of overstimulating. If you have more questions for the clinic I wouldn't hesitate on asking for another review since it was sort of sprung on you like that. Hope you are recovering ok......look after yourself x

TTC 4 years. 3 failed IUI's, IVF 1 positive (chemical mc),ICSI 1 failed, ICSI 2 positive (currently pg with twins & praying) Me:PCOS DH: low motility