Lou 3464 i hope your better now.? For me its constant nausea x
My main problem is nausea. I was diagnosed with bppv they tried the Eply to no avail as i freaked out and gp wasn't confident. Idk if ive still got it? Though im very lightheaded every day for coming up to 8 weeks ive been sick feeling most of the time but just for an hour getting up.Since last Tuesday ive been sick constantly like morning sickness and never ending ringing in my left ear which is the bppv side. Taking Serc taking stemital but the last week sick from opening my eyes almost the entire day. Started taking a second 16m Serc at 4pm. Got a referal to hospital physio waiting for date. Got chiropractic appt next monday and got anotjer gps appt 28th am so distressed with tje nausea. I had hypa gravitas when pregnant 9mnths 3 wks 3 days of vommitimg only had the one. So far ive not actually thrown up though this morning i came close. Im scared once i start i wont be able to stop
I FEEL you carmen :( i can't feel my self anymore :( .. how long do you have vertgo? do you have ringing in your ear? like my symptoms
Hi guys, I'm really upset I think I have vertigo and delusion. I want to know if there is any medication that can help me. I'm really dizzy and disoriented and also feel like I have lost my mind. Any help is much appreciated.
hello guys !
i hope someone will help me ..
i am from philippines. and i am 29 years old male.
1 month ago i was diagnose that i have a vertigo and my doctor gave me betahistine16mg tablet .. it was started my dizziness 3 months ago.. i went to my ENT to consult my ear . cos i heard ringing in my ear consistently.. sometimes was loud.. and my ENT says i dont have problem in my ear .. and he gave me antihstamine.. but the ring is not gone and i stop taking it.. until i go to MD, and prescribe betahstamine.. but there is no improvement.. how loong should i take this beta to make effect ?! and i ask my doctor why my hands is lighlty numb .., i dont know how to dscribe what i felt both arms and feet.. now i felt that im going to have anxiety and depression, i am over thinking .. LORD help me .. (sorry to my english)
Sorry to hear you are having a hard time.
Your sympthons sound similar to mine and it took a year to get a diagnosis... Chronic migraine inclusive of many vestibular sympthons, eg balance, visual, dizziness etc...you don't need to have headache or pain as primary sympthons.
I would encourage you to see a doctor anfd get your MRI to rule out anything sinister, worry and anxiety magnifies thesympthons s and getting a full check up will let you know what you are dealing with. Time also helps and if its migraine, then I'd suggest you see a neuro at future point. For immediate relief on the dizziness, serc or sturgeon helps, but seek med advice. You can't over rely on this.
Stay strong and know that this flare up will pass, get the medical assessment done and then plan your next step.
Take care x
I have been suffering from vertigo and this dizzy feeling since the last month..what concerns me the most is that i have problems with my vision too that have started with it..like my vision goes blurry everytime i have a dizzy spell.i used to have good days when i would feel good the entire day but they are rare and living a normal life day to day is becoming a struggle...seen docs and being a doctor myself i can only think of the worst possible things...scared to death of getting an MRI and what it would reveal...going mad thinking about it all...i was perfectly well before it all started suddenly while watching tv one day and nothing has been the same since then..miss my life the way it was.need to study for an upcoming exam and looking at a book is a struggle..even typing this is an effort..just here to vent out i guess..
Johnny C thank you for your reply it was very helpful I often wondered if it's linked to migraine gets worse when I get a migraine.
@Sami44 6 years is a long time. The fear you describe of visually complex places is very common as are migraine disorders that develop after peripheral vestibular injury. Maybe you could ask your dr to guide you through a high dose magnesium protocol. Also, there is a clinic on the southside that has the 0tometrics ics testing equipment, it can be most revealing. There are several chartered physiotherapists that can guide you through the testing protocols again.
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It's horrible feeling you dread walking out. It's unnerving. I went to Docs they did all the tests and gave me betahistine tablets. They took a while to work and have helped I have good and bad days. Hope you feel better soon.
Hi. I have been suffering from what I think is Vertigo for a while now and the last week and a half I've had very scary dizzy spells and suffered from the feeling from being light headed and it's really scary. I can't live like this day to day. I've seen an optometrist as well as a doctor and all my vital signs are normal yet I can't shake this feeling. Though some days are better than others, when it come on strong it unbearable and I panic. I'm not sure what I can do
I received a notification from the Irish Health forum regarding vertiginous posts on this forum. I am a Chartered Physiotherapist that specialises in vestibular rehabilitation. I am saddened to hear that so many people have been given a diagnosis of “vertigo”. People must be made aware that “vertigo” is a symptom – not a diagnosis. It is like telling somebody with a pain in their shoulder that they have a “pain”. They know they have a “pain” but they need a diagnosis as to what is causing it. Such is the case with vertiginous symptoms also. You can get vertiginous symptoms (vertigo, dizziness, disequilibrium, difficulty focusing, spatial disorientation etc.) for a variety of reasons. An accurate diagnosis is essential to identify the root cause of these symptoms. As people said, in the forum, it can be due to vestibular migraine (with or without head pain) but it can also be due to a variety of other causes. The most accurate way to diagnose it is with functional vestibular testing which can be done by a Chartered Physiotherapist that specialises in vestibular rehabilitation. They would take a detailed history and then do an objective assessment which would include an oculomotor examination using infra-red goggles which allows us to accurately analyse the functioning of the vestibular system. The use of vestibular suppressants should be minimised and only used in acute cases and only very short term. Once the patient is diagnosed, they have a very good chance of responding favourably. Nobody should be told that they have to “live with” these symptoms or be deprived of an accurate diagnosis.
If you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact me at the East Cork Physiotherapy,
Balance and Acupuncture Clinic, 9 New Cork Road, Midleton, Co. Cork. 021-4633455 or email me on firstname.lastname@example.org I hope this is of help to people.
So glad to find this forum. About 6 years ago I got a really bad cold it took weeks to clear up. Not long after it cleared up I started with dizzy spells where I felt like I was tipping over to the side...alwsys the left side. After 6 weeks it cleared up. Over the years the dizziness reoccours. These past few months have been bad. I will have a bad dizzy spell where I nearly fall over to the side sweating felt sick. Then for weeks I feel off balance and get really panicky in supermarkets or near busy roads. I've seen the GP and she gave me betahistine said I had vertigo. I have a slight improvement but I panic every time I go out or go to.work it's making my life a misery...sometimes when a bad dizzy spell hits I feel like I'm.going to die it's a horrible feeling. I also get migraines which makes symptoms worse as though my legs are going from under me....anyone on here know how long these tablets take to work and so sorry to read people's symptoms on here it's a terrible thing to have
I was recently diagnosed with vertigo over a month. The doctor gave me both Stemetil and Sturgeron. I finished them last Saturday but since Tuesday i've had a terrible feeling of dread, i'm panicky and its like I can't feel happy. I'm still a little woozy too. I went back to the doctor on Wednesday and he put me back on Stemetil. I'm just scared that i'm going mad.
Is this normal? I hope it is.
I just want to feel normal again.
Hi, last bank holiday over a month ago, I woke up on the Monday and the room wouldn't stop moving. I've been to two doctors since (one was a care doc because it was a bank holiday) and both said I have vertigo. I was prescribed stemetil and sturgeron for it. Last Saturday I finished the prescription. Then since this Tuesday I have felt horrible, panicky and like something bad is going to happen, I feel like there's a cloud over me and it's like I can never be happy. I went back to the doctor, told him this and he put me back on Stemetil. I've been feeling a little better but not hugely better. I guess i'm just a little scared and wonder if anyone else has been in a similar situation. I called another doctor to get a second opinion but it's so hard, they won't unless you're registered with them.
Is Anxiety Depression linked with this? Should I try something else? I just would love some clarity and to feel like i'm not the only one who has felt this way.
Thanks in advance,
Thanks very much for replying. Your response is very helpful. I am going to have a look at VRT and see if this helps me.
I will also look into the herbs. What ones do you take and in what form? I have tried various meditation in the past so will try and do some yoga each day.
I always try and stay active and walking always helps. Although often I'm out walking in such a dozy state I feel like I could keel over although thankfully that has never happened.
I have cut out my coffee (i had about 4 strong cups a day) so will see if that helps at all and also cut down on sugary snacks as I often see that cutting affeine n sugar out has helped people. Not sure if you have tried this or any knowledge of this?
I am going to have a plan for the next few days to try and implement these changes d also ensure I exercise send try and get back to a bit of normality. However as you know it is never a quick recovery when an episode happens.
Thanks again, Stewart
Hi sj, sorry to hear you are unwell. I am a previous poster on this discussion and have shared Iam living with vestibular dysfunction since last June, root cause is vestibular migraine. I am waiting to see neuro martin Ruttledge to form a treatment plan and use vrt physio to try manage my symptoms, its helped hugely but still have to tackle root cause. The symptoms you have are very similar to mine on bad days. I have sturgeon for use when my eyes are very, very wobbly in my head but only for a day or two at a time and this helps calm the symptoms.
I also do yoga and take herbs every day for the migraine. Not sure if my post is of any help to you. Hope you start to feel a little better soon. The biggest help to me has been vrt vestibular rehabilitation therapy so maybe have a look into this.
For last 10 years I have had varying instances of dizziness, spaced out occasions and unsteadiness. In recent u ears this has done on for weeks and sometimes months. I have had all manner of test and been to ear nose and throat and still no one can get.to the bottom of it.
It usually starts at work. I work in artificially lighted office with computer. I work in complaints so it is stressful, although I rarely feel stress. It is always much worse int eh morning and seems to improve as days goes on.
It is hard to describe. It is dizziness but not in the spinning room kinda way. My eyes go funny and I feel unsteady like I am going to faint and unsteady on my feet. I then have to try and get to the toilet as I feel as if 'the lights are on but no one's home,'I hate the feeling, sometimes I manage to ride it out but often I end up going home. It generally appears to start after I've had a cold of bug or after a period I've been exercising a lot.
The doctors eventually gave up and said it is something I will haveto.live with as they cannot get to the bottom of it. l have been ok ish for last 6-8 months but over last week it has come back hard and I'm off work again. Doctor has given me betahistine but not sure how long it takes to work. Any advice or help would be much appreciated.
I cried - mostly with relief - reading this forum. I have had vertigo, and migraine on and off for the last year. I thought I was losing my mind this week. I had chronic migraine many years ago but have been symptom free for a long time now. I thought I was either going mad or dying these last 12 months. Going through my diary for the last 12 months I realise I have been in utter denial about the tremendous stress in my life. Its not going to help the vertigo which is just dreadful right now, but I do think this is a major cause. My Gp is not very helpful but I will ask for a re-referral back to my neurologist, or perhaps ENT, I have had a lot of ear pain. And I need to change a lot of other things in my life. I hope everyone feels better soon, and thank you all.
I'm very sorry to hear about the problems that you are experiencing. Your plight was brought to my attention by a patient who was reading the discussion, and I thought that I might be able to help you.
I am a physiotherapist who specialises in the treatment for Vestibular conditions that can involve the symptoms of vertigo, dizziness and diseuilibrium. And rememeber that vertigo is only a symptom and not a condition. The most important part of our assessment is getting an accurate diagnoises, without this the treatment will not work.
We specialise in the diagnoises and treatment of vestibular conditions - which is eveidence based - a mainstream medical management.
If you have any queries that you would like for me to answer don't hesitate to ask. We are based at East Cork Physiotherapy Clinic, Midleton, Cork and we take self referrals from all over the country.
Hi Rhona, in June 2016 I sat at work and got an awful headache plus dizziness, nausea, spatial issues, vision etc....it took me 4 weeks to get a diagnosis...vestibular migraine which leaves a trail of vestibular dysfunction..it's now mid Feb and I still live with it, but I am 90% there. I have stayed away from medication and started vestibular rehabilitation therapy by end of last june. I have had a lot of pain in head and eye and on a waiting list to see martin Rutledge to hear his thoughts on it. I understand the fear you are experiencing, its a dreadful time. Google vestibular migraine and see have you some of these. I had all so was in the chronic category. I go to the balance centre in dublin for vrt...would have been lost without it.
Stay calm and take it easy, rest up as much as you can and listen to ur body. Anxiety makes the symothons worse.
Hi I'm Robyn. About 3 months ago I was sat at my computer at work and all of a sudden I went dizzy and thought I was going to faint, I didn't thank god, since then I have felt this wobbly/dizzy/on a boat feeling ever since. went to my doctor and he said its maybe labrinthitis and some vertigo. He prescribed me with betahistine and said this would help. I've been taking it for about 2 weeks now and don't feel any different, I feel completely normal in the morning when I wake up and then it gets worse as the day goes on. I'm so terrified as I Don't feel like me anymore. It's very scary and distressing and has brought on a lot of panic attacks that I haven't had for years. I feel like I'm constantly drunk and my eyes can't focus. I feel irritable and scared all the time. Really would like to speak to someone who feels like this and has come out the other end :) thanks
this past thursday i had terrible vertigo after sitting up in bed in the evening
i have had this once before but not to this extreme and it cleared up in a few days
i went to the dr and he gave me serc
how long does this take to work?
i am very distressed as 15 years ago i developed severe dizziness sitting at my work computer...the earth seemed to turn upside down...and i was in a state is disequilibrium for many years
i have an earache in one ear and dizziness vertigo spinning when i sit up
any help would be appreciated and i just cant stop crying
I've just joined this forum and noticed BREDA's post. I have chronic Labrythitis, and am just starting to try and connect with others who have it. I am dizzy ALL the time, and sometimes more nauseous than others. I've only fallen twice, but am always worried it will happen. It makes me VERY tired, and being tired makes the condition worse, so it's a vicous circle. I've done VRT which worked, but it's come back. I've just started getting headaches that come just before a dizzy spell. Anyway, I am now considering Acupuncture and wondered if any one has had any success here? Many thanks....
I got a vestibular migrane mid june and have been living with the fallout since, my balance was destroyed and i'm subject to vertigo and all that goes with it. Am off work and unable to drive. Its a dreadful condition, very debilitating. Am doing vrt and its helping and have stugurn for nausea. I am making progress but all very slow. Doing accupuncture and drinking herbs too.
Is there a support group in irl that i can join?
Thanks a mill
Just been diagnosed with Vertigo!
I have been suffering with dizzy spells/room spinning on 2 occasions on waking over the past 8 weeks - causing nausea & vomiting. Thought I had caught a bug/virus - but after the second episode & the nausea & dizziness not going decided to see the dr! he prescribed Serv 16 and said I had an inner ear imbalance & had to see him again in 2 weeks, and that I may need further investigations. this is my 5th day on Serc & was starting to feel better yesterday, but this morning I have woken with lightheadedness & nausea again & feeling yuck! How long do these tablets take to work? It does say on the pack instructions that they can take a while! Should I be re-visiting my GP?!? Thanks for reading 😊
At the moment I have been diagnosed with Labrynthitis. Have had lots of physio from a Vistibular Physiotherapist but unfortunately I still have dizziness & off balance in i.e. supermarkets or busy places. I am to go to The Beacon in Dublin for Balance Test next week. It is quite expensive & not covered by VHI. I live in Cork. Would love to know is there a similar facility in Cork or has anybody any experience of Balance Test in the Beacon.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Just responding to Neesee. Stemitil is an anti-nausea drug, as far as I understand it. It isn't actually doing anything for the vertigo itself. I had similar symptoms beginning in 2010 - regular vertigo attacks leading to nausea and nothing to be done except lying down until it passed., which usually took 4-8 hours. I eventually was referred on to an ear specialist who diagnosed Menieres disease, which is a disorder of the inner ear that causes hearing loss, tinnitus and vertigo. I was put on a drug called SERC for the vertigo, stemitil for the nausea and, when the stemitil didn't really work, a stronger anti-nausea drug that still didn't really help. I don't want to alarm you but just to be straight, I was getting regular (i.e. at least monthly, sometimes weekly) attacks right up to 2013 until it burned itself out with bad hearing loss in one ear. Hopefully this is not what you have; hopefully your vertigo is a temporary thing caused by something else. BUT just in case I would urge you to get on to your GP about being referred on to an ear specialist if it doesn't clear up in a week or two.
And I would also say that even if you do have Menieres, I did come through on the other side eventually and there are ways you can manage things so that disruption is minimised.
One key thing to be careful of is to avoid falling in to the trap of getting anxious about getting a vertigo attack. You can find that you start worrying about travel abroad or other things in the future becuase "what if I get an attack". This happened to me for a while until I get on top of it, and it can take over your life. I'd really just urge you to take it a day at a time, and if it happens know that you will cope, even with the four kids, jobs, flights, etc. I had attacks while doing public speaking, on holiday (twice!) and at my father's funeral! And I lived to tell the tale. So try not to get anxious about it, becuase that is a real risk. Two other things that worked for me -
1. Cut out caffeine - I did this and it helped a lot.
2. Try to reduce stress (difficult I know) but again it might help.
My meds took about 6 weeks to work. My vertigo is still ongoing after 15 weeks altho now under control with Serc16 (I am gradually coming off Stemitil as told by my GP hat over use can cause Parkinson type side effects). I am still very dizzy first thing in the morning and need to eat and take meds before I feel 'human'. I began driving 4 weeks ago but only when I feel it is safe and I went back to work today for the first time in 15 weeks.
Hi, I am new on here & in need of some help/advice. 2 days ago I woke up feeling dizzy when walking about then yesterday it got really bad to the point of just moving my eyes made me feel dizzy & nauseous, I have a constant buzzing in my ears but when I move it goes to a very loud pulsating noise & I feel as if I'm going to fall over & the room is spinning.
I went to my GP today who informed me I had vertigo & tinnitus he prescribed me Stemetil 5mg twice daily. I'm a mum of four so very busy but have just had to take to bed as I can't move my eyes/head without feeling sick & dizzy.
I am wondering has anyone taken this medicine & how long does it take to work if it will work? I'm traveling to Florida end of Sept with my family & im so hoping I will be over this by then as I can't imagine a 10hr flight feeling like this & then not being able to enjoy our special trip to Orlando.
Many thanks to anyone who can offer me any tips or advice.
I had a vertigo attack 12 yrs ago that lasted a week. This attack started over 3 weeks ago and has veen horrendous. I can't drive or work I'm on Stemetil and Serc16 and still very dizzy yet suddenly last night it went!!! Lying in bed and and still no dizziness. I am praying it has disappeared as quickly as it arrived
Hi Im new to this site, found it by accident but im so glad to find that there are others out there with the same condition. I've had vertigo on and off for about one and a half years. I didn't know there were different types my doc just told me I had vertigo and prescribed serc 16. While its a help it dosn't allieviate the symptoms completely, I still get disorientated and each day I wake up wondering will I make it to work today, as walking can be difficult when you feel like your legs are going to buckle under you. Sometimes when stopped at a crossing and the lights change I find that I can't move as I have to focus on how big a step I need to take to get down to the road. Most drivers look at me as though Im nuts. I work in an office that deals with the public and sometimes I stumble around the waiting area trying to get to reception, and lately I find that i'm developing a shake in my hands. Waiting for a bus is a nightmare and I keep feeling as though i'm going to fall over, but knowing now that i'm not on my own helps.
can anyone tell me if it is safe to fly to England next week?I was diagnosed last week and am on Serc
Vertigo is different for everyone, but one friend who'd experienced it said that it's three very bad weeks, three weeks of somewhat bad but mostly bearable, and then three weeks with it kind of lurking in the background - it might come on a bit if you've a cold or are run-down.
I had very bad vertigo two months ago (and posted to this site at the time), but after about a month it was under control, though I still am occasionally disorientated. I used SERC, which may have helped, though it's not clear to me whether the vertigo would have gone away anyway. I am now off all medication and it's okay. But I completely understand and relate to that feeling of waking up every morning hoping you'll be okay. Keep your spirits up because it does get better eventually!
Eversince falling in washroom 30 days earlier i am having vertigo.I went to ENT and then to Neurologist for this.My ECG,EEG,CT SCAN,neck X-ray have been done.All these tests are clear by thr grace of God.During first week i was put at Strugen and now i am having Serc 16 for last 10 days.My vertigo is 80% better.This waiting period of complete recovery is very agonising.Every morning i get up with ahope that may be i am over with it today.Anyone with this experience can tell me how long my vertigo still take to settle?
Im so relieved that I am not on my own with god awful disorder, I was told i had it when i was 17, as far as i remember it wasnt too bad, just a little bit of dizziness here and there, i was put on steriods and some other tablets which i cant remember the name and after a while i was fine...
I then began to get older, with no dizziness and thought to myself was that all in my head because i was grand since, about 6-8 weeks ago it hit my like a train that i wasnt all in my head, and it was back with a vengance..
The dizziness started fairly mild and I could still continue with my day as normal, then i couldnt keep myself steady and could stand for too long for fear i might fall over, then the headaches started, after that came the nausea and vomiting..
I thought today i finally had to go to the doctor, she prescribed me with Serc-16.i hope they dont take long to start working, im in college studying Nursing and its very hard to concentrate when my head is spinning..
I find that driving really makes it worse and actually brings it on, but im 22 and i need to drive myself to college, i dont have another choice, anyone have any advise on how to make driving easier??...Id really appriciate and try anything that might just make my day easier..
Huge empathy for you, if you would like tips for handling your vertigo or just to let off steam please pm me on email@example.com
Warm wishes and good health
Like many people who have posted here, I have recently experienced vertigo.
About two weeks ago, I was suddenly struck by a feeling of dizziness. I lay down for an hour before I started to feel better. When I woke the next morning, I was a bit groggy, but felt fine and forgot about it. One week ago, I was flying back to Ireland (short flight - about 2 hours' long), when the dizziness returned, this time far worse. I felt completely incapable of moving, and any attempt to do so resulted in an awful feeling of nausea. When I got off the plane, I was physically sick.
Since that time, I have had constant dizziness (with different levels of severity, ranging from light-headedness to complete inability to move) and ringing in my ear, and near constant nausea. On 5-6 occasions, that dizziness has intensified to the point where everything seems to spin, where movement is impossible - and in all cases, I've been physically sick.
I have pain in my right ear, and indeed over the last year or so had been to my GP about slight hearing loss in that ear, and was (and still am) awaiting an appointment with ENT specialist.
So basically the condition is that I've had hearing loss gradually over the last six months, and then had one dizzy spell, followed by another far more serious dizzy spell which has lasted (with varying degrees of intensity) for well over a week. My hearing is okay, except that I have a ringing in my ear. I have occasional pain in my hear which radiates down to the back of my neck. I'm a 35-year-old male in otherwise good health.
My GP has given me bi-vurten, and I am taking 6 of those every day (that is 3 x 2). It's made some difference, but not much. Certainly not enough to allow me to do things that I need to do - like going to work, doing jobs around the house, etc. Like many people who've already contributed to this forum, I find the idea of going outside slightly nerve-wracking, from fear that I'll be sick or get 'stuck' (as I was during the last week when I found myself having to cling on to a bus-stop for 20 minutes before I could move off).I am still going outside anyway, but it's getting to be a strain.
My wife is doing her best to support me, but I can see that it's starting to take its toll on her that she has to take on so much of the work around the house and looking after our child etc. I'm fortunate in that I can do a lot of my work from home but because I'm not 100% I'm starting to fall behind. So I'm running out of patience, and feel like I'm really starting to be a burden.
I'm very concerned about all of this because I've never really been sick for so long (nine days now and counting). I've seen from some of the contributions that this condition can go on, and on, and on. I guess it seems like I just need to wait to see the ENT specialist, and by the sound of things on other posts I can expect an MRI scan etc.
But if anyone has any suggestions for things I can do, if only just to manage the dizziness a bit better, I'd be very glad to hear them.
The vertigo is set off by many things and the key is not to avoid those situations but to confront them head on. I know it is scarey but if you start with the avoidance as I did 4 years ago it will creep up on you again! My ENT says that the virus can lay dormant and flare up. If you have been diagnosed with Labrynthitis for definete then I would ABSOLUTELY seek help from a Vestibular Rehabilitaion Therapist. I am 5 months in now and I am back shopping with the kids,attending family events,going to dinner,all of the things that I had avoided for years! If you need any info or just want to vent about your fears etc. please email me on firstname.lastname@example.org
Don't give up becasue you are not alone! This is something that can be controlled once you stop letting it control you :)
Please please look up this site as it helped for me to realise I wasn't alone with this:
*Ps any stimulants coffee,sugar,alcohol,motion in cars,lifts,even someone moving the bed when you are sitting on it can bring on the dizzies so best to cut down or out altogether :) (not the bed part ha ha ha although it really helps if your partner/kids understand why you need balance sometimes so theyneed to support you)
I was too quick to think I was on my way to get better. Two days ago I got a really bad head ache and took some tablets, then the day after, yesterday I was dizzy again. Today it is even worst. I'm so upset, I thought I was out of the woods. I'm going back to the doctor tomorrow to see what he says. I haven't been back since the first appointment so I assume it is for the best.