Heart palpitations revisited

# 260

Posted: 19/05/2012 14:20

Hello zMary

I know how distressing Palpations are. I had severe Palps for about a year on and off the worst being for about 3 months but thankfully Im ok now. Here is my advice on this problem. 1/ Go get an ECG let a doctor look and check all is ok there then see what they can offer more than likely Beta blockers because you are more than likely extremely distressed and the doctor more than likely will say you are suffering from stress which is causing the palps and not the other way around. 2/ Water Water Water……dehydration creates the conditions for palps ie inflammation. Get into a routine of 2 glasses in the morning 2 at lunch time and 2 at night. Keep an eye on the colour of your urine and drink water to keep a clear colour. This is a must in getting

your heart back to normal  2/ In my opinion Palps are caused by a Stomach ulcer or other inflammation in that area. If you note the thump ship then the beats catching up it is very like the way the heart reacts to a sharp pain. I believe due to inflammation inside there is “sharp pain” that does not register with the brain as pain i.e. where the inflammation is there are no pain nerves so the heart reacts via the vagus nerve

to this inflammation. Accepting the fact you have inflammation you need to look on your stomach area as being severely inflamed due to food chemicals ect. So cut out all foods that irritate….All coffee…ice cream …..all acidic foods like tomatoes ….. chocolate…… any food loaded with chemicals…..mint tea…spices..ect. Sort out this inflammation and you sort out your palps. Your stomach acid if you have a stomach ulcer can be eased by aloe vera gel or by a tablet which

cuts the production of stomach acid ask your doctor re this (proton pump inhibitor). Ask yourself do you have any pain in the stomach area especially at night this is an indication of a stomach ulcer. 3/ Consider the fact you may have a sugar/ diabetic problem reduce sugar as a good thing anyways. 4/ Try to reduce stress easier said than done 5/ Take

a magnesium/calcium/vit D supplement this can ease things a bit. Take a least one Bananna a day for the potassium. 5/ Consider a gall bladder clense I did this I think it did help cant do any harm….if that is inflammed it could be causing the problem. So to cap. Drink more water….Cut out all foods that irritates the digestive tract……. Cut out all food laced with chemicals..…cut out coffee and all acidic drinks and caffeine……get a supply of aloe vera gel or a stomach acid inhibitor…..try to reduce stress…..take magnesium/calcium/vit d supplements.…..reduce sugar maybe check your blood sugar levels…..low blood sugar can cause palps…….research anti inflammatory supplements ……… you may have a virus/bacteria causing the inflammation check antibiotics natural antibiotics…you may have a stomach hernia..(hiatus hernia)…eased by proper hydration... Palps will take a while to sort if it’s a stomach ulcer with the aloe vera/ mups maybe 2 to 3 days if not concentrate on inflammation and supplements to reduce eliminate….. treat your stomach area like you would treat a nasty inflamed ulcer on your arm/leg………..I hope this helps……..there are others here who can help in a major way they are the best of people  …….. best of luck you will clear them….

 

Ps Soya increases estrogen levels have you checked this out??? Can mess up hormone Balances in men/women do your research Mary…….myself I would stay well away why would you keep taking it if you think it causes you problems ??...I doubt calcium would

Cause palps…..maybe the major people in here might know better

Rgs

Xx

Thanks to Nick George others again for their help/time/ support to people with palps or those who have had them...thx

# 259

Posted: 17/05/2012 18:42

Hi there,

I've had irregular heartbeat/flutters on and off over the last few years. Had ECG and 24 hour halter and nothing showed up. Printed out your 12 steps to beating palps a few years ago Nick and found it helpful. Then I was grand for ages!

The last 2 months have been mad - through Lent I gave up all choc/sweets/cakes etc - and the irregular heart beats (a gap and then catching up) were there most days. So it was not down to sugar rushes.

I think my trigger might be soya beans? Previously I drank a lot of soya milk (I'm vegetarian 20 years - but have been eating some fish regularly over the last year or so) and when I gave the soya milk up they seemed to lessen. But many breads seem to use soya flour in them - so it's hard enough to completely rule it out.

I recently had another ECG - and I have to go to discuss the results tomorrow with my GP. I've had palps pretty much for the last 3 weeks - and two migraines in the last 3 months (usually only have 2 a year max.) Also have postural vertigo - arrggghhh!

Anyway - my query is - have others found that Calcium supplements cause irregular heartbeats? I started taking Osteocare about a month ago - my mother and brother were recently diagnosed with Osteoporosis. The last 3 weeks I have been in a bit of a haze and the palpitations are nearly every day. As I write my poor heart is fairly jumping out of my chest.

I am on not any medication - except for the Osteocare supplements.

Any ideas?

Thanks all!  Love this discussion group.

Ze.

# 258

Posted: 09/04/2012 17:33

I agree.  The first step BEFORE trying self treatment is ALWAYS a medical evaluation.  I am a major advocate of Aloe Vera Gel.  It solved my problem completely.  But never try to treat cardio issues without first getting screened by a doctor to make sure there is not a serious life threatening problem going on.  Once the doctor verifies the problem is not life threatening, THEN go ahead and give the Aloe a try.  - George

# 257

Posted: 04/04/2012 23:58

HI Shoduken

                   As you cansee this thread is barely,if ever updated now and I believe there are other threads running on this forum for this topic.

 Your symptoms sound odd in so much as you say ' vibrate' which suggests a rapid movement.

   Rapid heart beat is tachycardia  which is usually quite obvious what it is.

Most importnatly I suggest that you get a doctors appointment and run a ECG. if you are in the UK most GP's have an ECG machine  , if it commonly happens when you lie down you may catch it in the surgery or clinic that would be a definitive answer as to whether it is your heart.Even if it proves to be your heart it may not be significant. Also consider if you are on other meds  and see if they can cause this too.

   I've replied because I have an email notification on this thread  but the last post was 2010.

Regards Vespuccio

  It is possible it is a muscular spasm which can cause 'vibration' these are called 'benign fasciculations ' and occur usually in the legs and arms but any muscle can do it and usually when you are relaxed. Sometimes these are like a vibrating mobile phone.

# 256

Posted: 04/04/2012 00:06

omg thank god i found this website with good info on heart palpitation.

i don't know if i'm abnormal but my heart palpitation is like this.

it only starts when i'm lying down (on sofa, on bed, etc.)

my chest vibrate and i can feel the arteries blood moving on my back. all this happens only when i'm lying down. 

hopefully the aloe vera gel will solve this problem.

:-)

# 255

Posted: 13/12/2010 17:34

Congratulations Sam!  You nailed it!  I wish others were as keen as you to solve their issues.  What you did would help a large number of them out there.

Nick.

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Nick M. Walsh (http://phdrops.net)

# 254

Posted: 10/12/2010 19:51

George Many Many Thanks I took the Aloa Vera gel and my Palps went. In My case I think the following all contributed to myself getting them. A really bad diet consisting of biscuits and more biscuits tea and coffee. Stress and more Stress. Playing sports and not hydrating properly before/during/afterwards. In summer time the covers on my bed being too heavy making myself sweat at night time.In relation to the gel being an anti inflamatory I can say that once when I had the palps and I was quite relaxed nearly asleep I was aware of a slight throbbing inside me ( something inflamed )which would start the palps. Im now aware of the sodium/potassium balance the importance of sleep and diet. George thank you again I have half an idea I might have an ulcer and the gel helped that. To anyone who now has palps do some research tho skip over the negative stuff ( its NOT easy as I found they really stressd me) you may have a food allergy (peanuts and any type of coffee even decaf gives me palps ). I was getting them all the time the only relief was when I lay on my right hand side tho some days were better than others. I cut out coffee chocolate and as much sugar as possible but be careful with new foods.Check out the Dash diet. I now eat 2 banannas a day (potassium) and drink a reasonable amount of water. Its possible my palps started when i ate the spiciest food in the world stay away from spicy food. I believe I am responsible for my own health Im not one to put my health in the hands of others who may or may not be competent or care. Try everything you will find something tho Rest both Body and mind...George thx again    

# 253

Posted: 02/11/2010 14:41

vespuccio,

The problem with drug companies trying to market an aloe derived drug is that if it becomes common knowledge that plain old dirt cheap aloe gel will do the job, who will buy that expensive drug?  That is why drug companies are unwilling to gamble the huge amount of money required for trials.  But the preliminary Indian study certainly argue that more definitive trials *should* be done on aloe products since it clearly indicates that such products would have the potential to save lives.  But it is just not going to happen in a capitalist setting, because in a capitalist setting things are not driven by potential public health benefit, but rather by potential profit.  That is not intended to be a criticism, but rather a reflection of the reality of life.

The other issue of course is that even the aloe soft gels don't work for everybody.  The reason for that is fairly easy to figure out.  Heart palpitations are a generalized symptom with multiple root causes.  Some of those causes ARE potentially deadly which is why anyone with palpitations should have a complete cardio evaluation before pursuing any attempt at self medication.  But aloe vera is one of many intriguing plant based substances that certainly deserves more scientific investigation.  And if ones palps have been fully investigated by a medical professional and nothing else helps, its worth a shot.  If it is going to work it should work quickly so there is not a lot of money to be lost trying either.

# 252

Posted: 01/11/2010 23:43

HI Nick

You summise correctly I am in Europe with an excellent G.P who refused to put me on any medication for palp's because there is nothing fundamentally wrong with my heart.Unlike the U.S there is no incentive to treat unneccessarily although 'preventative' medicine is worryingly creeping in.

I do fully understand pH homeostasis , what I was doing was giving areas where aloe gel could affect pH if it were ingested as you had not specified - hence the sites I chose oesophagus first , stomach or eventually blood. I wasnt implying varying pH around the body if this is how it came over.

What i would like to see is an aloe gel randomised double blind trial.

This would ascertain if there was an effect. None of the patients would know if thay had aloe or an inert substance , none of the people running the trial would know either. The preparation and result collection would be a third party.

Run statistics for chi squared and if it's significant it's real .......then the drugs companies will isolate the substance and make millions ...'Palpadex 250mg ' I can see it now.

As you are stating that pericarditis can be the cause of palpitations.This is also certainly testable via ultrasound and ecg also esr and crp would be raised .But many sufferers have normal values of both including myself.I am not convinced of this.

Good to throw ideas about

Regards

# 251

Posted: 01/11/2010 17:12

Perfectly said George.  You are so much more tolerant than me.  Wish I had your patience!  I tend to be a cranky old guy.  My experience is the same as yours. 

I used Aloe Gel and they went away.  I stopped for a while (ie.. after about three weeks...) and they came back.  So I used them off and on for about 6 months and they are now gone for good.

I continue to research the issue of inflammation.  I suspect that there is something in the aloe gel that specifically targets an inflammed pericardium.  But as you so correctly pointed out... there is just no money in this stuff since it is so readily available.  Texas sells it by the gallon!

I find that aspect of our health care system sad.  They won't work on a cure if there is no money in it. 

Nick.

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Nick M. Walsh (http://phdrops.net)

# 250

Posted: 30/10/2010 18:09

I am the "George" that Nick was referring to.  I found Aloe Vera Soft Gels to be effective for my palpitations quite by accident.  I had very severe palpitations that my doctor had attempted to treat with Metoprolol, but they didn't respond to the Metoprolol and progressively worsened.  It got to the point that I was waking up at night with nausea due to the palpitations.  At some point I began taking the aloe vera in an attempt to sooth my stomach.  When I did that, within 24hrs the palpitations went away.  And they stayed away as long as I kept taking the aloe vera.  That was years ago.  At this point the whole thing seems to be completely resolved as I no longer have to take aloe vera.  And the palpitation problem has never returned.  That is my own personal experience.  I actually talked to someone at the US National Institutes of Health regarding this and from him discovered that there is research indicating that aloe vera may be useful in treating heart problems.  There was a large study in India in the 1980's by a Dr Agarwal that treated 5,000 angina patients with aloe vera.  After five years all were alive and healthy with no other medical intervention other than the aloe vera.  This study was never followed up due to the difficulty in finding funding to study a complex commodity product which presents little opportunity for profit.  Since then I have found that SOME, but not all palpitation suffers respond to aloe vera softgels.  As Nick pointed out quite correctly, it is EXTREMELY important to get a complete cardiovascular evaluation before pursuing any alternative approach to dealing with palpitations.  Also, as Nick correctly points out, there are multiple aloe vera products that have completely different medical effects, and in fact some of them are potentially dangerous, so be sure of what you are taking.  Be especially careful to avoid the Aloe Latex products as their only effect is that of an extremely harsh laxative which is NOT what you need if you have palpitations and you should NEVER use that one three times a day on an ongoing basis.  Bottom line is aloe soft gels work for some and not for others.  When I discussed this with a heart palp researcher, his take was that the aloe soft gel product must have some targeted anti-inflammatory effect if it was effectively treating the root of a certain heart palp problem.

# 249

Posted: 28/10/2010 19:32

Hi Vespuccio,

Perhaps you are in Europe?  Over here in North America there is a war going on between Alopaths and Naturopaths.  We could talk for days about this topic!  At the root of this issue is the battle for your wallet.  My assertion is that there is no money in either dead people or healthy people.  The forces that control the entire economy over here are used to having a strangle hold on both the system and any messages about it.  Thankfully the internet has taken that away from them. 

I now have at my finger tips such resources as "Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine", and the various compendiums on internal medicine.  When you read them, one glaring bias becomes evident.  There is no talk of curing or fixing ailments.  They talk only of "treatments".  You see... treatments are lucrative.  Any time you can get the client to pay you on a regular monthly basis, you will be much better off in the long run.  All of the treatment discussion in these manuals is centered around pharmaceutical drugs! 

The industry is so powerful that they have managed to propagandize even the discussion around medicine.  They call themselves - "Traditional Medicine" and everything else is called "alternative medicine."  They do this purposely because they understand human nature to reject "alternatives."  In reality, what most people think of as traditional medicine is actually ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE!  This stuff only came around in the last 100 years.  Whereas... Chinese medicine has been around for 2000 years!  So who's the rookie here?

You say, "inflammation of what...".  Inflammation can happen anywhere.  It does not necessarily happen in a uniform fashion all over your body.  For example, depending upon the minerals or enzymes that are deficient in your system, you might have inflammation of the pericardial membrane around yoru heart.  Pericarditis is inflammation of the pericardium. The pericardium has an inner and outer layer with a small amount of lubricating fluid between them. When the pericardium becomes inflamed, the amount of fluid between the two layers increases. This squeezes the heart and restricts its action.

In most cases, why pericarditis occurs is unknown. However, it can result from one or more of these:

• a viral, bacterial or fungal infection


• heart attack


• cancer spreading from a nearby tumor in the lung, breast or the blood


• radiation treatment


• injury or surgery

Sometimes it accompanies rheumatoid arthritis, lupus (systemic lupus erythematosus) and kidney failure.

How is pericarditis treated?

Analgesics or anti-inflammatory drugs are given to relieve pain. Antibiotics are also prescribed if the pericarditis is due to a bacterial infection. If excess fluid is seriously affecting the heart's action, a needle may be used to draw it off. In some cases surgery may be required.

Some of the palpitation issues that we have discussed here over the years may be related to paricarditis in one degree or another.

Next you bring up medical qualification.  Limited thinking will never solve problems.  Was Einstein qualified to be Professor at Princeton? No... he was, under your standards, not qualified.  Qualification is a barrier used by those seeking to protect proprietary vehicles.  One cannot practice medicine if one does not hold a certificate issued by the grandest of "old boys" clubs around.

I don't care about that stuff.  I have a career.. and this is not it.  This is only a passion I enjoy since it is always changing and it is challenging.   I don't offer advice, I offer observation.  People can make their own minds up.

When you start talking about pH levels in different parts of the body, I realize you don't really know this stuff well.   The blood tries to normaize itself at 7.365.  It is very tightly controlled by our bodies.  Too low or too high and you die.  The body is an amazing machine though.  If you keep feeding it acidic materials, it will take minerals from your bones to buffer the acid.  It will do it until your bones are riddled with arthritis and become easily broken.   Why do so many old people fall and break their hips? 

If you have a pH of 7.9 in your area, you are a very lucky person!  You should consider setting up a bottled water company there!  Most of the water here is in the range of 5.5 to 6.4. 

Regarding re-runs... People are lazy.  They want a fix in 7 seconds or less.  Most will not take the time to read enough to help themselves.  I am cynical I know.  I'm 57 and I am entitled to draw some conclusions about life.  Perhaps this is why doctors gave up long ago trying to help people.  Just give them their drugs and drag them into old age without too much pain.  It may be just too much work to get people to do the right things. 

I do a lot of internet marketing.  The pH drops are just one of many products I am a representative for.  At 57 I will retire eventually and I just love working and love the internet and technology.  So... I've been building sites and developing a niche market approach.  It only generates a couple of thousand dollars a month at the moment, but you have to remember.. there is NO overhead.

We do agree that doctors are good mechanics.  I want a doctor when I break a bone... or when I need to have an organ removed or repaired.  But I want them to be my mechanic and NOT my medical advisor.  My best friend is .. or was a doctor.  We graduted from high school together so I got to see an inside view that many wouldn't see.  And it is not a pleasant story.

N.

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Nick M. Walsh (http://phdrops.net)

# 248

Posted: 27/10/2010 21:11

HI Nick

             I am intrigued by your posting.Iam aware that the Gel is important and I apologise for this error. So Aloe Gel is a potent anti-inflammatory so presumeably this implies that its success is due to this property .

     However Inflammation of what ? Stomach... Oesophagus ....Cardiac muscle ???? . You refer to research so i am curious whether this is patient based or literature based from Hunzana web site you do not appear to be medically qualified If you  published any papers I am interested to reading  them. 

 If inflammation were involved I would expect  patients to  present with  high CRP or ESR for instance.

     You also speak of acidity/alkalinity  please clarify, stomach??... blood ??? .  Blood has an extremely narrow safe  pH range and is extremely tightly controlled I find it hard to visualise aloe gel making any impact - infact altering it would be positively dangerous.

     As for Hunzana pH drops  I am concerned as this appears to be  a commercial company for which you have a vested interest and have advocated it's use   but the  science behind the claims is not substantiated.The tap water in my area is pH 7.9, i live on chalk,  so I dont think I will be  needing  them.

As for the constant re-run of topics surely this is inevitable as new people join and ask the same questions as previously.I don't have a problem with this at all.The importance of replying  reasonably quickly to new posts - who are obviously not having the best of months I feel is important,less they decide no one's listening

One thing we do agree on is that you have to rule out any possiblility of a heart problem from the outset.

Regards

# 247

Posted: 26/10/2010 18:27

Hi All! 

Please allow me to weigh in on this.  I've been lurking off and on for the past couple of years.  There is only so much that can be said about palps. 

I first got them in 2002 and my drive to cure them ended up with me finding Irish Health and this group... and my friend George... who's keen observation skills picked up an early affector in the control of these things. 

I finally beat my palpitations and I am sure you all know how good that must feel. As I read the posts, though I see discussion going around in circles and I see language that is too lose.  Vespuccio [sp?], you just talked about aloe vera possibly having some effect.  That statement is way too vague.  If you go to the Duke Medical database you will see there are many derivatives of aloe vera.  I had so many conversations with people over the years who continually get aloe vera mixed up with aloe vera - the juice!  When we talk about aloe vera, we are talking about aloe gel.  Not aloe vera.  ALOE GEL.  Please every one get this right. Do not refer to it as aloe vera.  It is not aloe vera.  And if you go to your health food store and ask for aloe vera, it will do nothing for you.. except keep you running to the bathroom.  Aloe Gel, on the other hand is a potent anti-inflammatory.

My researc studies over the past 8 years have given me a ton of expereince with this issue.  The first thing anyone must do is see their own doctor and rule out any physical defect whith the heart.  After that... it is a matter of address your internal inflammation issues.  You can choose to believe me or not, but I beat them myself and I have discussed this with at least two dozen others over the past 8 years who have also beaten palpitations. 

It is a very complicated set of risk factors that trigger them and it all has to do with your diet and your level of acidity or alkalinity.  I've developed a full time career around this single issue.  You need to start doing some reading about alkalinity and ph levels.  Aloe Gel taken three times a day will help to start, but there are other adjustments you need to make in your diet.  If go search for hunzana ph drops in the search engines, you will find me and I will give you whatever literature you need.

Like anything else in life, you are either going just sit there talking about it, or you are going to do something about it. 

I wish you all the best!

:)

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Nick M. Walsh (http://phdrops.net)

# 246

Posted: 23/10/2010 00:42

Hi Dinkle

               There have been a few posts here advocating aloe vera although personally it didnt do much.If you've had an ECG , which from the fact you say you have Bradycardia ( slow heart rate ) and Tachycardia( high heart rate) ,suggests you have ,then presumeably you have not been diagnosed with any actual heart problem. I've said before that it's really important not to treat the symptom without having some idea of the cause.

 If your hearts O.K then its a matter of initially adjusting to the situation which can be really hard .Everyone here has thought 'My heart should not have stopped for that long' or ' how long can it beat at this rate'  This is usually followed by great anxiety over the whole thing and anxiety tends to make it worse..........catch 22

Read my post to Cheryl which outlines what works for me ( in your case plan B if the aloe vera doesnt ) I really found this forum helpful and get mailed when someone posts .

After four years I still get them but I am used to it and try to forget it as soon as possible - now they are an inconvenience like hiccups. I hope this reassures you.

BTW also check any medication you are on incase this has caused it - simple but  often overlooked.

Regards

# 245

Posted: 21/10/2010 02:19

Hello my name is danielle!! Thanks for all this info on palpitations!! Its great that i find people that are going through the same thing as me! I actually have trachicardia(spelling) and brachicardia  (sinus) so it sucks! So wut im gona do is try the whole aloe vera thing out and see if that works! Has anyone been on that and has it for sure worked!! How many people have used this aloe vera and it was successful!! Let me know thanks!!

# 244

Posted: 01/02/2010 23:01

Hi CherylM

This forum has been invaluable to me in dealing with what became a real problem. I have found a solution that works for me but I know it won't work for everyone and that the causes of palpitations are varied. We all know how distressing and frightening this can be too. So firstly you are amongst friends.

Lets looks at the good points from your post.

It would appear that although you didn't have any raging palpitations whilst being monitored you did show something and it was not indicative of a serious heart problem or indeed any heart problem. If it were serious i'm sure something would show in 24 hrs.

You have tried and admirably succeeded with weight reduction.This is important as although i have never been overweight I did suffer from reflux and In my opinion this can cause some palpitations. I don't know why but they seemed related. My GP siad 'you are stressed so you get reflux but it is the stress not the reflux that causes the palpitations' However I proved him wrong as having been put on anti acid medication(PPI's) i am still stressed but do not get as many palpitations. 1-0 to me I think.

O.K the thing that screamed at me from your post is the sweet n low. This is NOT a good thing at least for me.It took a while to realise that artificial sweeteners can cause heart palpitations, so I think this is the most important thing to kick . O.K don't drop it all at once reduce it especially in drinks like tea and coffee once you are down to zero -It can be done. Then change your soft drinks to non-diet . At least give this a go for a month to see if it makes any difference. Its cleared very quickly so you should notice something within a couple of weeks

I've found low potassium is an issue so I eat at least a banana every other day- I like bananas so its no sweat.They have about 467 mg of Potassium its a qucik way to do it. Be careful if you have a kidney problem though.

Magnesium is also an issue and i take 250mg once a day.

It took about three months before i was aware of not having as many and then another three months since they became sporadic. Yes I still get them BUT i can cope with them. some days 2 episodes then nothng for days. This forum has helped though this particular thread does not get too many posting i get mailed if anyone responds.

BTW i'm not too impressed by your GP. I live in the UK and moving GPs is difficult but most GP's here take heart issues seriously. Mine certainly did However some hospital doctors have a more blaise view. Having been admitted to A&E (ER) and been put on a monitor the consultant said . 'Everythings O.K , beside which people of your age just have a huge heart attack and die' What he meant was that in your forties you don't get these symptoms prior to a heart attack so what i'd felt was nothing to worry about . Just what a way to put it !!!!! I actually laughed

Anyway first step ---sweet and lo GOTTA GO.

Hope this helps.

# 243

Posted: 01/02/2010 20:20

Hello Cherl,

Hear are some things that may help with the palpitations:

1) Aloe vera softgels. Make sure they are NOT the laxitive or colon cleanse kind! These virtually eliminated my palps in only 24hrs. I have been pretty much palp free in the years since. Probably a good place to start.

2) Also it would be good to get your vitamin D levels checked and optimized to 50ng/ml+, but that would require help from a doctor.

3) Based on recent research I also would recommend high quality omega-3 supplement like Nordic Naturals Fish Oil or Lyprinol.

I don't think the Mangosteen brand matters so much, but I would read the label carefully. It should provide plenty of actual mangosteen, most products are a blend of juices. I would also check to make sure that it includes the pericarp or rind which is the actual beneficial part of the fruit. I believe that Nick recommends Xango, I have used the Agro Foods product successfully. If what you have doesn't help, I would try to get some Xango and see if that is helpful. You will probably have to experiment a bit. All the best to you. - George

# 242

Posted: 29/01/2010 23:28

I don't know where to start, but I think some health history might help. I'm 45, a single mom, with alot of stress on me, but who doesn't have that ? The only thing that is NOT stressful in my life are my kids ( they are older) I couldn't ask for better. In the past 4 years I've been eating healthier and have lost 87 lbs so far. I need to lose 50 more. After losing the 87 lbs I was able to drop 4 prescribed medications, one for high blood pressure, acid reflux, etc. We ( I say we because everyone in the house eats this way ), don't eat red meat, anything at ALL fried, or fatty foods. We eat chicken, turkey, low fat, high fiber foods. And yeah we have pizza night one night a week, and if we want chocolate, my daughter and I will share a 3 Muskateer bar ( lowest in fat ). I don't drink, I don't smoke ( pretty boring huh ?). I dont' drink softdrinks and I only drink de-caff iced tea.Ok so 4 weeks ago I woke up one morning having heart palpitations that I could feel. I have always been able to feel these, maybe once a month, maybe not even that...but this was constant, all day, on and off, and when it happens, it would suck the energy right out of me, and take my breath away.Well my doctor did blood tests...and let me say I am disgusted with my doctor right now, but I do not have medical insurance, and I've been with them a long time and they give me a sliding rate. I work from home which means no insurance. The nurses tell the doctor they have called me back when I call in ( when they havn't), and they forget to take enough blood for my blood work, etc. I suggested to the doctor that it was peri menopause symptoms, because of my age, and the fact that I have about 12 more of those symptoms. They did a test for menopause, but that won't show up the peri-menopausal stuff, so she ignored that suggestion. I went two days ago and wore a 24 heart monitor. I am now experiencing some discomfort in my chest..kind of feel like i have indigestion .I wore the 24 hour heart monitor until yesterday morning. For that day my heart didn't act up as much as normal ( go figure )...but they took it off yesterday morning and told me they would send it right in to my doctor. I waited until this morning and called my doctor, and they said they never received it, that I will have to wait until Monday for my results. An hour later they called me....they found the results back on their desk, the doctor said that yes I am having some occassional heart palpitations, but I don't have anything to worry about, I just need to calm down and try and 'take it easy'. After thinking on this for 10 minutes I called them back and told them I can't live like this...that this sucks all my energy, that I feel bad all the time, and this is NEW to my body, that I can't imagine just 'living' with this. That it even happens when I'm just sitting and relaxing ! So they call me back and tell me they have called in a medicine ' Metaprolol'. Ok I do not want to be on a medication that will effect my heart, just because I told the doctor I can't live with heart palpitations. I've been reading what you all have said...I found some Mangosteen Juice at a local asian food market, but it is a different brand than what you suggested. The only thing in my diet I can see has changed in the past month, is that I am drinking about a half gallon of de-caff sweet tea a day, and i use three packets of sweet in low in each glass I drink. I'm determined to fix my problem, any suggestions ?Cheryl

# 241

Posted: 08/06/2009 17:45

Hey George!

Welcome back. It's been a long time! I always credit you for shorting my research on this topic. You saved me years of work I suspect. I too got rid of palps a couple of years back now.

I'll only say this once... but ANYTHING I discuss here ALWAYS assumes the reader had done what George suggests and that is to see your doctor FIRST!!! It cannot be overstated the importance of ruling out stuff like prolapsed mitral valve or scar tissue on the heart or any one of a number of other factors that can trigger palpitations.

But after you have done that... then what we talk about here could be of use to you. I've been corresponding with about a dozen folks who emailed me from this group over the years. I send each of them my "regimen" to beat palps and every one of them has experienced relief. Some fully, and some only partially... but enought that they are very happy with the results.

One of the writers recently triggered another research round by writing to me about his experiences with a drug his doctor had given him. At first the drug stopped the palps, but after a few weeks they came back even stronger. After he started my program he reports that he is about 70% better. One fact he is stuck with for a while though is mercury in he teeth. You only need to google "effects of mercury" to see the horrible things that mercury does to you... and how easy it leeches out of the teeth.

But the reason for my post today is to highlight what my friend pointed out about his medication. His doctor told him it had a negative effect on the release of histamine in his system! RED FLAGS!!!! Histamine! I put my research group to work on histamine. There is some major implications here that I believe go hand in hand with inflammation. Its all connected. I will be releasing the reports on this as we test subjects and get a more complete set of data.

Nick

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Nick M. Walsh (http://phdrops.net)

# 240

Posted: 08/06/2009 16:43

Hello all,  I haven't had a chance to post on this forum in ages.  Since using the aloe, my palps have been gone for years now.  At this point I have other health issues to worry about so I really don't follow this particular thread that well.  But there are certainly a lot of good suggestions here.  I can tell you that there are probably a number of different things that can cause palpitations.  That means that some methods will work for some people and other methods for others, and some people may not be able to find anything that helps them.  For me the aloe vera soft gels did the trick and the effect was permanent.  I am really intrigued by the report regarding oil of oregano.  Oil of oregano is really a good broad spectrum pathogen killer and I would not be surprised to find that it would kill off some nasty things in the human gut.  And of course Mangosteen is good stuff as well in terms of lowering systemic inflammation.  The whole root of palpitations, like a lot of other maladies out there, lies, I believe, in the realm of inflammation and low level autoimmune processes.  There is just a lot of good and useful stuff out there in the supplement market that can be helpful and one just has to try some things and hope for the best.  But anyone with a new case of palpitations should also get thoroughly examined by their GP initially to rule out any dangerous condition that might be causing them BEFORE trying supplements.

# 239

Posted: 08/06/2009 14:59

SO Ross 09..being summer is your good time.. you can't be sure if it's the supplements doing it or the weather?  Is that right?

I just hope everyone is off Aspartame because that is such a cause of the heart palps...it's hidden in everything so you have to be vigilant. If anyone missed chewing gum..you can still get Teaberry, Clove and Beemans gum and it's just sugar which to me, pales in comparison to the other culprit!

# 238

Posted: 08/06/2009 14:50

Thought I'd update since my last post in January. The Solgar Magnesium and Homocystine did the trick - about 2-3 days later the palps were gone. I have had intermittent palpitations since then but nothing out of the ordinary. For some odd reason summer time is always better for me.

# 237

Posted: 05/06/2009 22:07

I am 73 years old and suffer from atrial fibrolation. I am taking minimum dose of Sotacor (Beta Blocher) but this is driving me insane. I want to sleep all day and every day. any similar side affects in our area.

# 236

Posted: 02/03/2009 16:53

For palpitations.. try COQ10... 30mgs daily. Helped me a bit.

# 235

Posted: 02/02/2009 21:53

Hey Robster,

Your story is quite common. Have you read the postings in the other discusssion in this website? The topic we are on now is #2489. The other one is #2222 I think. Anyway... go back to the discussions forum and find the other heart palpitations discussion. It is where most of the useful information is. I am in touch with dozens of sufferers around the world and through this group, many have beaten this monster. Perhaps you can too?

Contact me any time if you wish. nick at lucidboomer dot com.

All the best,

Nick.

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Nick M. Walsh (http://phdrops.net)

# 234

Posted: 01/02/2009 20:56

Hi all

Just like every first timer I feel much happier knowing that there are so many of you out there that experience the same symptoms as I do. I thought I was the only one.

Im 33 and a father of 2. Since my teens I recall not being comfortable with my heart and what it does. I suffered panic attacks for years which turned me into a bit of an agoraphobic/hypochondriac (not travelling far from home etc - def not flying). After years of various therapies to counter the panic attacks I have managed a couple of family holidays last year (saved my marriage im sure and I really loved them) which is great, however.... since doing this the palpitations and flutters have greatly increased....(just when I thought things were going my way in life)

In 2001 I was told by the Cardiologist that I had a slightly floppy Mitral Valve but that it was nothing to worry about. I am 6ft 2 and slim build and always been fairly sporty even upto a year ago I was playing 5 a side football 3 x a week. Since the middle of 2008 my chest flutters have become so annoying and unbearable, lasting for days leaving me feeling weak and jittery.

I spoke to the Doc who said my BP was high and after a few return visits he was happy that it was ok as it fluctuated back to a normal level for my age etc. However the flutters have driven me crazy so I we to see the Cardiologist, My ECG with Doc had shown abnormalities, but they were not that concerned at the hospital only that my BP was high (prob due to the worry), so a 48hr ambulatory test, 24hr BP test, heart Echo and Blood tests later and they are still only concerned with my BP. They say the electrics of my heart are ok, I had to tell the Cardiologist that I had MVP (Mitral Valve Prolapse) and then he prescribed Bisoprolol 5mg (Beta Blockers). They seem to do the job for a few days heart seemed more at rest, but now the placebo has worn off 1 month later and here I sit after 5 hours and counting of flutters and skipped beats driving me up the wall. I get so moody and stressed out with my wife and kids when I feel like this as I am on edge and feel detached.

I truly can not stand it any longer.... I need to find a solution or be totally convinced that these are just an ugly symptom of something that is not life threatening. MVP can allow the heart to regurgitate blood which can cause heart attacks....I have to go back for another Echo in a years time to see how the MVP is....

Full of despair

Rob

# 233

Posted: 31/01/2009 05:06

Everyone!!! My palpitations gone.

Well first of all, I tried aloe vera and it worked but I started the anti-yeast/parasite therapy and realized that my body was full of yeast/parasites(in the intestines)

Yeast/parasites release toxins which causes you to have anxiety attacks/heart palpitations/random sweating/unstable homeostasis. etc.

Try it out.

There is a natural herb called Oil of Oregano. NOT just oregano. it's called OIL of Oregano.

It kills yeast/parasties in your body and very potent. First three says I became nauseous and I thought I was dying and thought this herb wasn't working but it was due to parasites/yeast dying off and the toxins were getting cleansed by our liver.

I have been on it for more than a week now and I feel so energetic. and living the greatest life ever. email me at ijamezxp@gmail.com

I will get more specific about. I'm not here to sell anything but tell you guys that I had anxiety attacks and was afraid even drive around due to anxiety attacks. Trust me this works.

# 232

Posted: 24/01/2009 16:16

Hi, I'm 39 and have been getting heart palpitations on and off for 6 or so years this stage. I've had my worse ever episode that have continued for the last 4 days - I get them mostly when I am standing up after a period of rest. I haven't been to the doc yet as I was hoping they would disappear. I previously had a Holter monitor attached for 24 hours but of course I had no problems that day! Today I bought Solgar Magnesium and Homocystine along with New Era Tissue Salts Mag. supplement. I'll post back if the supplements work. I might get the Aloe Vera gel caps too...do they really work?

# 231

Posted: 24/12/2008 16:03

HI

    having suddenly developed palpitations  18 months ago (my word was that scary) I found this forum by accident  and made a couple of posts.

   Since then I've had very few and  at least I'd like to share what i've done.

1. got an ECG done and thyroid tests  both normal - so there isnt anything actually wrong with my heart. If you havent  then  do the same ,it can at least aleviate the worry to some extent.

2. Sorted out my gastro-oesphageal reflux- believe me  this made a difference and I dont know why- I'd read about this being a cause of heart palps so got my self on PPI's ( -esomeprazole -antiacid drug) .

3. I never drink caffiene now  and when I do - guess what ??  palps ++ 

4. I do get palps occasionally  some quite strong but I KNOW this is nothing- and that is a VERY important point with dealing with them.They are an inconvenience.

   Always remember your are not alone -millions of people have this world wide and if it were dangerous  there would be a screening program -wouldn't there ??

Have a good christmas all

# 230

Posted: 22/12/2008 22:29

I'm new to this, so just a little info. I've had palps since childhood when at the age of 10 my mother passed away. Plenty of stress there and as a child I focused on them more than was healthy. Spent most of my young adult life sure I would die at any moment and looking for a doctor who would at least explain these to me. Mine are mostly PACs which are considered benign but they do give me the fluttering sensation, and from time to time were very disheartening. The medical community may understand that these are harmless, but they need to do more to educate the rest of us. It is difficult to focus on life when you're constantly plagued by the thought that your next heartbeat might be your last! Eventually, when I woke up every morning, I decided that what hadn't killed me yet, probably wasn't going to soon. Enter the internet, suddenly thru sites like this and others I realize that I am not so unusual in my affliction, and that there are ways to make the palps better, if not dissappear completely. Its great that people can share their ideas about what helps. I just wish the medical community would take it more seriously, and if nothing else, tell people about such sites. I have tried Magnesium and Potasium supplements which help, staying away from caffeine and booze are obvious, though not a lot of fun, sleep aids get me too. Recently I tried something new and it seems crazy that it works, I can't imagine why. I eat about a cup of raisans every day! I went from dozens of palps every day to practically none. I don't think its mind over matter, I've been at this too long. Does anyone have a logical explanation? Is there some terrific mineral in raisans that could make such a difference? Thanks again for this site, any thoughts are appreciated. tj

# 229

Posted: 12/10/2008 03:32

Hi Nick and George,

3 weeks ago I developed PACs (probably because of the crazy economic environment we are at), that wouldn't go away, and when I did some research, I found this thread. Thank god I did!

So 5 days ago I bought Aloe Vera soft gels and a bottle of Mangosteen and started taking them. Today is the 2nd day my PACs (or PVCs) are completely gone. Like a miracle. I do not believe it was all in my brain. Maybe stress did start an inflamation process, but I continue to be stressed (just look at the new on the economy... things are getting worse, not better). But the palps are gone. So how? Well, I trully believe one of those 2 items did the trick. Or maybe a combination of both. Either way, I am 1) EXTREMELLY thankful for your posts and care for others, and 2) I am EXTREMELLY puzzled about Mangosteen.
Nick, If possible I would like to get an update from you if anything new showed up in your researches. Hope all is well.

Regards,

Vanderlei Silva
vandersilva@hotmail.com

# 228

Posted: 13/05/2008 18:48

Hello phililind,
You may be hypoglycemic... or even borderline diabetic. You are on the right track. Inflammation in your system is made worse when you add sugars that are broken down into polypeptides which fuel the fermentation of other food products inside your intestines. You must reduce your inflammation. It is a precursor to many other diseases anyway... so get on it!

First cut out all fish products. No fish oils and no fish of any kind.

Next cut out sugars except fructose or natural fruit sugars.

Forget the aloe gel caps... they are not enough. You'd have to eat ten at a time. Gel Aloe Gel by the gallon container and drink two ounce three times a day until the palps are gone. Then maintain it with one or two ounces twice in a day ... three times a week.

Home made wine is also out.. as well as hard liquor. Only good wine will be made without the chemicals that help aggravate the condition.

I've checked this formula with dozens of folks all over the world who suffer this condition. It works! I surfed into this group in 2003 suffering four or five attacks a week. Each time I though I was dying. I know the anxiety it creates.

Check out my article collection on this and other topics at phytoscience.ca.

Good luck.

Nick

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Nick M. Walsh (http://phdrops.net)

# 227

Posted: 03/05/2008 02:00

Im still very young but when ever i go to lay down or relax for the night i can feel in my chest and throat a
pounding, as if my heart stopped or races,and it gets me scared. Ive had a montitor b4 but they said i was fine. I'm still scared though,

# 226

Posted: 11/04/2008 17:46

I have been suffering from palpitations on and off now for the last 10 years. I've tried all the herbs etc and some medications but the only thing that seems to be helping is the Buteyko breathing method. The theory is to reduce the amount you breath and thereby increase your CO2 tolerance. CO2 is a vasodilator which opens up little blood vessels. Anxiety can cause these vessels to contract leading to palps. You'll feel your energy levels rise quickly in the first month, I've been doing it for 5 months now and I've found the palps seem to be greatly reduced. It takes a year to build up high CO2 tolerances.

# 225

Posted: 01/04/2008 17:58

I'm not alone! I have had palps for probably 20+ years. I'm 55 and on BP meds. Sometimes I have them all day long, just sitting at my desk and I sort of do a cough thing or some sort of expelling of breath that sort of sounds like a wheeze. Of course, I too, have worn a holter monitor two times over the years, had an echocardiogram too several years ago. Doctors look at me like i'm krazy, saying my heart is fine. I do have a weakness for chardonnay and I'm beginning to believe there is a connection. But, I can go for days w/o palps even after having my glass of chard with supper. Then they start up again. Lately, I've been taking a potassium supplement and I don't know if it is a placebo effect or not, but it seems to calm those little buggers down. Mine are like skipped beats. Another way it feels sometimes is like there is an elevator in my chest and it is at the top floor and then the elevator drops down in my chest. I used to be so scared, but now i'm plain annoyed! I notice I do not get them when I'm on my stationary cycle, but more so when I'm sitting or lying still.

# 224

Posted: 22/03/2008 00:48

Amazing.... I've found this site and Sooo many people are just like me.
I've had palpitations for two years now.But i'd like to say that it's not tachycardic . its more like a missed beat or perhaps two in a row.

i'm in my mid forties and they started out off the blue. However thats not strictly true. All through my life i've had the feeling that my heart has missed a beat once in a while but it was a low level 'hardly noticed it' sort of thing until two years ago when it suddenly became 'OMG my hearts stopped !! '(you've all bin there !) then a fraction of a second later all was well.At least with my heart- the rest of me was a stressed wreck !
However this developed in to a flutter where my heart would feel like like it wriggled ( best description i can find)
scared me witless and after having a bloods(thyroid etc and an ecg (x2)) I discovered.... there was nothing wrong.
Well sorry doc thats not what it feels like here !
I've noticed somethings that are puzzling though.
Generally they happen when i'm not doing anything.Keep busy and it doesnt happen
They seem to coincide with a bout of gastritis/reflux- read that this can be the case.(whether taking antacids affects blood chemistry and throws things out i dont know but it was quite coincidental)
Cant blame caffiene cutting it out made no difference.
Cant pinpoint a food either.I've been on 100mg/day of CoQ10 and multivitamins (general a-z type)for the last month and they have been less
both in intensity and frequency.Also been drinking more water - dehydration will certainly affect blood chemistry which i feel could be at the bottom of this. Hope this helps someone if only to reassure that this isn't a heart condition but a condition that affects your heart.
BTW my doctor tried to reassure me by saying
'Any one in their forties who has a serious heart problem usually has a massive heart attack- there's none of these 'warning signs' like you get in your 70's or 80's' - i had to laugh . I knew what he meant but it doesnt come much blunter than that !!!

# 223

Posted: 14/03/2008 05:41

I take one 25mg aloe a day and it works for me. I have been on these for months and still no major palps. Well, I do have some minor ones on occasion but I am 98% better - the only thing I changed was adding that one aloe pill every day.

# 222

Posted: 09/03/2008 22:17

George or Nick,
I am taking Aloe Vera Gel Caps that are lebeled 200:1 25mg.
How many of these caps should I take at one time and how many times a day should I take them.
Thanks,
Mark

# 221

Posted: 07/03/2008 22:08

George,
I am using the GNC aloe vera gel.
The label says one soft gel contains:
Aloe Vera Gel 200:1 25.00 mg.
How many of these am I supposed to take at one time and how many times per day?
Thanks,
Mark