Attitudes towards gay people
Sorry how are gays "naturally talented people"? Surely some are more talented than others, as is the case for straight people.
it shows, ireland still has narrowminded people, so what if someone is gay! Im gay! I never choose to be this way, of course Id love to have a normal family life but it's not the way things worked out for me. so I pick up the pieces and live with it!! I live a normal life like anyone else does! why shouldn't I? just because your hetrosexual doesn't make you any more appropriate in this world than a homosexual person or any kind of person!! everyone has their faults, people who seem to be homophobic usually tend to be people who have a lot of issues themselves and tend to stay clear of the limelight incase their defects are shown!! and for that comment about the bible and not accepting your own family if they were gay, who do you think would be condemned the most in our time of judgement!!
yes you meet gay assholes just as much as you meet a straight asshole, everyone is unique, all gays aint the same just as all straights aint the same, we all make our own decisions and all have different ways of living our lives!! people in general should be more concerned about their own lives without prying into the lives of others!!
Gay people had the right to be treated equally. Being gay is being freedom with themselves, expressing their choice of how they wanted to be. Gays are naturally talented people and mind you they contribute a lot to our society.
Similar thing happened to me in college. There was this student in our class who was black. She was nasty and horrible and spread rumours about me behind my back. When I confronted her about this, she accused me of being racist. My answer was "I dont really care what colour you are, I care about how you treat me - I dont hate you because you're black I hate you because you're you".
If it were me, I'd spend as little time around him as possible. As I do with all rude people - gay or straight.
Sometimes men love men
And then there are bisexuals
But some say they're just kidding themselves.......
You think I'm clearly not happy. AGAIN your perceptions - in this case misperceptions as nothing could be further from the truth
Em, perhaps you are not aware of what bisexuality is. If a person was to date / be attracted by one sex, then they woudl be heterosexual or homosexual not bisexual.
How exactly am I contradicting myself?
Thank you for your good wishes - fulfilled many years ago, you'll be pleased to know.
come over as very angry and very alone, anyone as angry as you are would fight with his/her toenails.
AND why do you hide behind the "anonymous" you are clearly not happy.
AGAIN, third time lucky I am going to reiterate Stay with one SEX not necessarily one partner, although " you have been with a partner for twelve years". You are contradicting yourself with every word you type.
I truly want you to be happy and when you are happy with yourself it will be noticeable in your postings, I look forward to your happiness.
Tizzy by name and nature
In China people abhorred large feet on women - they attempted to "cure" this by barbarically mutilating the feet of their little girls.
Don't try to cure that which exists as a problem only in those so narrow-minded as to know no better.
So which is it that you believe???
From my experience, gay people are born. I am a hetrosexual, who knows some gay paople. As 1 in 10 are supposed to be gay, I guess the chances are that we all know some gay people. You may well be correct about some gay people being "made" gay due to some early experience, I have no knowledge of that.
However, homosexuality has been depicted in artworks going back centuries. There are pictures in pompeii showing gay activity. I personally know of people who did not want to be gay and struggled for years before finally coming out. Part of their struggle included attending sessions for treatment, where attempts were made to "cure" them. This only added to their misery, before they finally achieved contentment when they came out.
This all shows to me that homosexuality is part of the human condition for some people and has been for centuries.
I am not gay and do not understand the attraction. However, I do understand and accept that other people are gay and that is what turns them on. I like certain music, but I accept that other people don't like my kind of music. I am not going to try and "treat" or maybe "cure" them.
The whole construct of morality - is that it is determined by the mores of a particular society at a point in time. This is and always has been subject to flux, since time immemorial.
Nature, or natural law, allows for homosexuality just as it does heterosexulity. Lets face it, with 6billion people on the planet, the human race's survival is hardly under threat - from homosexuality at any rate. Aside from the fact that lesbians and indeed gay men, do become parents.
Homosexuality might be of no use to you but seeing as you don't comprise the entire human race, you really cannot assume to be so arrognat as to judge whether it is "of use" to the rest of the planet.
To say it has been been proven not to be genetic is completely and inherently WRONG on a number of counts. Chiefly because you cannot scientifically prove a negative and thus there is no scientific proof of it.
Incidentally, just in case your erronious statement was a typo, heterosexuality has not been proven not to be genetic either.
Your own view is simply that - your view based on your outlook (subject to your own ethnocentricity, upbringing, age, peer influences and prejudices) not a scientific principle or proven concept and like all points of view it can be wrong, not to mentioned unproven.
Almost every person whom you treated who described themselves as homosexual (what's with your inverted commas?) had been the victim of childhood sexual abuse and given the statistics for homosexuality, then statistically, for every gay person who was a victim of abuse, there would be 9 or 10 straight people but just for the record, every gay man I know came from a loving nurturing caring family and there are gay posters on here who were never abused but two straight people I know (out of many) were victims of childhood abuse. Does this mean there is any corelation between heterosexuality and childhood abuse?
MAKE A CHOICE AND STICK WITH IT??
What EXACTLY are you talking about Kieran?
Does that mean that one should only ever date one person their whole life?
Divorce is out then?
guess its down to who decides whats moral?
I'm a christian myself and i'm bi. there are many who will have faith and know that god gave us the right t love. that includes same sex. we shouldn;t bring sex into this. thatsd compeltely different. when you love someone, you love them. you cant help who you fall for.
I don't think if i was your kid i would tell you. how wrong is that? your children should be able to come to you no matter what, but something tells me that you will probably never know. How does that make you feel? Right, holy, just? or sad and ashamed?
No-one is allowed contact with a woman while she is having her period - excellent, Can I have that day off so?
I workd lst Sabbath - I got the dinner but I didn't get paid. Do I still get put to death?
It is also forbidden to wear a garment made from two different fabrics. There goes my polyester/cotton trousers.
Oh wait, it's probably a sin for a woman to be wearing trousers in the first place.
In wonder how that excuse would go down at the garda station when I'm arrested for travelling home half-nude!!!
Remember, in an atmosphere of fear you can never have real trust or openness.
If the consequences you threaten are that you will cut them off or no longer love them then your rejection will mean one of two things. They will hide their sexuality from you - causing them untold pain but not only that, they will also hide other important things in their life or if they've been told, 'don't come home here and tell me you're you're gay', you run the risk of them effectively not coming home at all - i.e. once they move out, they will cut off all communicaiton with you.
you can sell your daughter into slavery (have loads of daughters, pay off your mortage early)
you may buy a slave providing they come from a neighbouring nation (anyone fancy some English slaves?)
if you work on the Sabbath, you should be put to death
(that'll put an end to sunday shopping)
you may not approach the alter of god if you have a defect in sight (so if you wear glasses you're in trouble!)
eating shellfish is an adomination (does that include prawn crackers?)
you are allowed no contact with a woman while she is having her period (personally, I can see an upside to that!)
planting two different crops in the same field is a sin
(does this include different plants in your garden?)
What religion are you? Would your god not allow gay people into heaven? Anyone else he won't allow in there? Like people who use contraceptives for example? And what would you do if one of your children were gay?
How you take your religion dos not give you carte blance to make rules.
If not for our faith what have we? I'll tell you shall I? A love for all of humanity - most especially the children we chose to have, REGARDLESS of their sexuality.
Have you ever thought - if you force your own flesh and blood to hide that essential part of their being - their sexuality, from you, how can you ever hope to have a close and trusting relationship with them in the real sense.
Rejecton teaches them that they have to hide things from you out of fear.
If that is how you feel about your children I DO dare question why you or anyone with a similar attitude would bother having children they could not accept wholly regardless of their sexuality. Repression breeds repression. Society at large reaps what you sow.
People don't set out to be gay. Gay people are just gay, because that is how God made them. If you are gay, you cannot become "not gay" just because the mother has warned you of the "consequances".
By the way you never did articlulate what the consequances would be if one of your children turned out to be gay.
"if its not acceptable in religion . . . . . ."
Frankly, I don't give tow tuppenny damn's wthether its; acceptable in religion or not. Your belief in your religion donesn't entitle you to make rules and regulations for every one else.
You have warned your teens of the consequences of telling you if they're gay. Oh the poor unfortuate young people. I am so glad I am not one of them. That is one heck of a way to make teens feel isolated and unloved.
If you are not willing to acept your children for ALL that they are, just a nature made them, then why did you bother having any.
god love your children is all i can say.