Panic attacks
 

bene449  Posted: 29/03/2013 12:13

I believe most people get confused by coping strategies and methods to stop panic attacks. Breathing techniques will not stop panic attacks; the attack has already stopped when you start the abdominal breathing. I suffered for 20 years and tried various doctors, psychiatrists; none of them even recognised that i was suffering from panic attacks. I saw several counsellors and they seemed more interested in connecting my attacks to incidents in my youth. The only methods which seemed to work for me were Panicattacktherapist and Linden method. The former is the more reasonably priced and has the best support.

Michael  Posted: 11/06/2010 12:39

 

Hi hiratio. Thanks for your comment. Everyone has their own experience that is worth sharing. While the trigger of our panic attacks may differ, the response should always be the same. Panic can only be maintained by the release of adrenaline, so when a person experiencing a panic attacks responds by allowing the fear to come over them, two things happen. First they now know that what scares them is the sensations produced be the release of adrenaline (this is known as the fight or flight response) and the sensations although scary are not harmful. Secondly when the adrenaline source of fuel is cut of, by not responding with fear to the original panic the panic now runs out of steam and subsides as it cannot maintain it’s self without adrenaline. No one person is an expert, instead we should pool our experiences and let fellow suffers use whatever technique they find by experience helpful. No one here is claiming that there is only one way, but it is true that some techniques work better than others. Thanks to all.

 

buzz  Posted: 08/06/2010 15:45

I tend to get panic attacks after the fact...when I have had stress or shock, it will hit afterwards. I used to think they were "out of the blue" but on assessment, there had usually been something upsetting a while before.

hiratio  Posted: 08/06/2010 12:56

Hi Michael...in repsonse to your post.....

"

Hi to all.

In response to Ger’s comments. He is absolutely on the mark as regards how to deal with panic attacks. Panic attacks are not harmful and are the body’s own response to perceived danger, but there really is no danger. It’s a false alarm. Keeping calm and allowing the sensations to come right over you and not trying to fight them, will make it go away by its self. Because when you except panic attacks as something normal and allow them to pass without trying to fight them, you cut off the source of fuel that drives panic attacks. The fuel that drives panic is the release of adrenalin in to the blood system, it is this release that causes all the sensations that make a person feel they are about to have a heart attack or are going mad. In fact nothing could be further from the truth. Allowing  the panic to pass over you kill’s the release of adrenalin and restores calm. It will take a while to master this method, but be reassured as it does work. Thanks"

 

while everything you say here is absolutely spot on...however new evidence has been found that people that have suffered severe panic/anxiety for years are more susceptable to heart attacks...now everyone please don't be to alarmed, this study is just that... any one at any given time can have a heart attack regardless of conditions,but myself having this dreaded thing for 20 odd years my medical professionals have their opinions on what has caused mine and it's not the general run of the mill pyscological causes in fact mine was an organic cause and because i suffer another condition in regards to the heart this is how i came to find out about the latest studies with panic attacks and heart attacks.

caye  Posted: 06/06/2010 23:37

What usually triggers panic attack?

Gnilsia  Posted: 04/06/2010 20:18

Hi purple,

Maybe its just the confined space giving you the panic attacks! I am the same anyway always try to get an edge seat where ever I am or sit at the back... I don't think its because I am claustraphobic I just like my own personal space... Like some of the pubs in my town would be like a human cattlemart so thats a no go but i just don't like the place.  I think if you get used to a place it won't really matter if its packed so long as you can make a quick exit if you desire.  I have no idea how old you are but for me personally I wasn't like this when I was 16 .... and would love to go back to being that way but I was sooo bad with it, it could have easily ended up ruining my life and it can do the same to you if you let it.  For me I just decided f*ck this I don't want to be like this anymore and I don't want to live a life like this.  So I put myself in situations I didn't like and then realised with time that it wasn't as bad as I thought.  It took about a year to go back to somewhat "normal".  I wouldn't be completely back to the way I was but I am happy with how far I have come considering how bad I was. Hopefully you too will come to a point where you just decide that your not going to let it beat you

Michael  Posted: 04/06/2010 14:19

Hi to all.

In response to Ger’s comments. He is absolutely on the mark as regards how to deal with panic attacks. Panic attacks are not harmful and are the body’s own response to perceived danger, but there really is no danger. It’s a false alarm. Keeping calm and allowing the sensations to come right over you and not trying to fight them, will make it go away by its self. Because when you except panic attacks as something normal and allow them to pass without trying to fight them, you cut off the source of fuel that drives panic attacks. The fuel that drives panic is the release of adrenalin in to the blood system, it is this release that causes all the sensations that make a person feel they are about to have a heart attack or are going mad. In fact nothing could be further from the truth. Allowing  the panic to pass over you kill’s the release of adrenalin and restores calm. It will take a while to master this method, but be reassured as it does work. Thanks

purple  Posted: 04/06/2010 13:32

hi gnilsia

I should have explained better in my last post. I suffer with claustrophobia, I can't go into packed places. I do go to a pub. I make sure i am near the door,Between panic attacks and claustrophobia it's a nightmare.

Gnilsia  Posted: 04/06/2010 12:56

Hi Purple,

I know its not easy but you really have to decide where you want to go with this....i think for me i turned a corner when i realised there was no way i was going to continue down that path.... I would barely go anywhere public.  Distracting yourself on your phone is a good idea in that it can stop a panic attack coming on by distracting your thoughts to something else.. Going shopping when its quiet is a good idea to begin with but if you want to change start by going sometimes when you don't really know if it will be busy or not and then if it is there wouldn't be a build up of anxiety before you get there and it will be easier to handle.  Otherwise someday your going to find you go there on your normal quiet times and then it will be very busy and you will panic big style.  So just do little tests bit by bit.  Thats what i did.  put your self in situations you don't like gradually say for example if you hate going to a crowded pub with your friends and you usually go home instead of go to that crowded pub.... First weekend stay in the crowded pub for half an hour next time a bit longer and the next time a bit longer... for some reason we have convinced ourselfs something bad is going to happen and we panick... we now have to teach ourselfs that nothing will happen and we will be fine... we won't believe words only actions so we must gradually prove to ourselves we will be ok by doing these little tests

ger  Posted: 03/06/2010 21:56

Hi, In response to the two posts about getting rid of panic attacks, the first thing to remember is Panic Attacks Will Not harm you in any way and you must not be afraid of them. Being afraid of the symptoms of panic attacks and the feelings that come with them only makes them worse and so it goes on and on. Panic attacks bluff you into thinking there is something really serious wrong with you and you start believing that to be true, hence you stop going out etc.

Panic attacks begin when you are sensitised from maybe too much pressure, stress, after an illness, whatever. They are no harm, and once you begin to stop 'fearing' them, they no longer have a hold on you. That takes practice, and reassuring yourself is ok, but just letting them be there is the best way. Just let them wash over you, without any fear, and they will pass, you will realize with practice, they always pass and Nothing ever happens that you thought would in the first place. I had them for years, and until I discovered a wonderful Programme called Freedom from Fear.com,  I no longer suffer any anxiety, depression any more. Hope this is of some help.

Regards,

geraldine

purple  Posted: 03/06/2010 20:54

hi gnilsia

when i get a panic attack i take out my fone and text people or look through my fone, it helps a lot. yesterday i was in my clinic, and i was getting flustered panky, so i decided to take out my fone. now going to shop i try and go when there is hardly noone in the shops. i usually go shopping on a thursday, i went yesterday and noone was in it. i know u cant let a panic attack get to u , but its hard.

lotto  Posted: 03/06/2010 16:54

Hi everybody

can  anyone tell me the best cures for anxeity and panic attacks. Had them for 2 years-now get them when I go to shops, even going for a walk with my kids.

purple  Posted: 02/06/2010 22:19

hi lotto

i suffer with panic attacks, when this happens to me, which is quite scary, i do breathing exercises, and just say to my self, everything is going to be ok, just relax,they say breathing into a paper bag helps to.

Michael  Posted: 02/06/2010 22:08

Hi Lotto.

Please take a look at our website 

Http://anxietyandpanicattacksupportgroupbray.com 

and see if you find any information that might be helpful. Everything we use in our group is on the site. Our group have being meeting since last September and the group are making excellent progress. Some are so well they no longer attend. I know this because I keep in touch with them. We also meet socially and former group members joins us to encourage others like themselves. Hope you make progress too. Thanks

Gnilsia  Posted: 02/06/2010 19:53

i think that might be the problem for some people and well it would have been for me i think if can manage it you can go back to being panic attack free... I did.  One of the most important things lies in what you just said.  You are trying to cope with it when that is not the solution... there is always a reason for it even if you don't know what it is something will make you feel uncomfortable and 5 seconds later your panicking... what i did was just to face my fears... i would take myself out of situations that would bring it on or situations i know i would feel uncomfortable in which is just letting it win it is extremely difficult but if you stay where you are and distract yourself (take out your phone and start to text someone or ring someone) you will take your mind off of the panic or whatever reason you feel uncomfortable and before ya know it you will be outta there and once you leave you will have done it if you keep doing this over and over you won't panic as much and then you will begin to realise there is nothing to panic about because you didn't the last time you were there or because whatever you thought might happen didn't.  You will teach yourself not to be afraid anymore without even knowing....one of the worst thing you can do is do thing to make you feel comfortable in that situation and make the situation more bareable because that is giving into it and letting it win.  Don't ever run away from the sitation or avoid it either because nothing will change you will continue to be scared off that situation..  you have to face your fears ... its not easy at all but i felt like my panic attacks and anxiety were ruining my life and if you want to live a life like that fine do nothing but if you don't just decide your not going to let it win and kick ass! :D One of the most important things i learned was what a panic attack was.....an adreneline rush thats it nothing more nothing less just an adreneline rush... The reason we get so scared is because there appears to us to be not logical reason for it and we panic because i heart is racing we are breathing more rapidly etc think about it when your running you feel the exact same thing but its ok because you a running and you know why its happening but when your standing there in a queue and it happens you shit ourselves.  The weirdest feeling i had was when i went on a ride at the funfair and i had all the feelings

lotto  Posted: 02/06/2010 15:37

Hi - new to this page what can you recomemend for curing panic attacks they are driving me mad.

Michael  Posted: 20/02/2010 17:18

 

Hi to everyone on this forum. Could I take this opportunity to inform anybody who might be interested that I run an ‘’Anxiety and Panic Attack Support Group’’ here in Bray. We meet every Wednesday night in Ballywaltrim Community Centre on the Boghall Road opposite Centre shopping centre. Our meeting starts at 7.30 to 9.30.

I started it last September 2009 after attending a similar group which used to meet in Shankill, but due to funding are no longer meeting. I also wanted to tweak some of the things I seen and heard. We had a small group of about twelve meet regular last year. Some of those people came back this year and they have improved vastly, not my words but theirs. This is what we try to do. We inform group members by the use of video and handouts what is happening in our bodies when we experience our awful symptoms, covering what triggers these attacks, explaining that thou our sensations are distressing that they are not harmful. Over the course the members come to know that that the old approach of fighting these attacks does not work, so we engage on a change of attitude to our problem. We teach acceptance and a patient disposition as our anxiety levels drop and as we lose our fear of the sensations, strange thoughts, and dread of attacks. This of course does not happen overnight. But those who work at recovery and implement all that we teach make great progress. I am often asked why I do what I do, it’s because it works. There is no charge for this course. Please flee free to let me know what you think. Our website address is

Http://anxietyandpanicattacksupportgroupbray.com

This site came about as a result of people contacting me about our group, yet because of they own ill health, there were not able to come to our meeting. I put information together to inform people like them. We use all the information on this site in our group meetings. Nothing beats the support of fellow suffers. It amazing to see people who considered themselves different, adjust to a view of normality as others share their experience. I’m not trying to plug our group but rather to inform you what’s available to anyone who wanted to try it. Anyway that’s all. Please don’t settle for a life deprived of joy and potential, instead grasp life with both hands and make a difference.

 

purple  Posted: 15/06/2009 15:38

hi

my son had two panic attacks this week, his nurse said it was fear, as he had to go on a course and stay over night, he has never been away from home, he has aspergers,/

Dee D  Posted: 13/06/2009 22:33

Hi Betty i have just read your post and think its a joke as to what is going on in that hospital. I myself suffer with panic attacks that was until i found the freedom from fear program. I have being to hell and back and was in and out of hospital and doctors numerous amounts of time... at one point when i was in hospital in the middle of one of my worst panic attacks, on my knees on the floor a nurse had come over and told her collegue to leave me there as i had taken something, now i have 3 beautiful kids, i don't drink smoke or have never done or never will do drugs because i love my kids so much. You need to try speak to your wife and tell her your there for her and always will be. My husbands my rock and i don't know what i'd do without him but if your wife keeps withdrawing herself from you it will only make her pull away from you more.

I was talking to the guy who started the program (freedom from fear) and he was telling me about your post i was in shock and felt i had to reply. If you can print off this post and show your wife.... I was the same as her for years at one point i couldn't leave my house of fear of panic..... My family were there for me and they are the people i needed the most as the knew me better than any doc who kept trying to push anti depressants on to me and mage me feel a whole lot worse, my family made me see that there is light at the end of the tunnel and no matter what they were always there for me.

I hope your wife can see this to and know that she needs her family at times like these.

Anon  Posted: 09/06/2009 11:37

Hi Goaties, I used the Linden Method and found it superb.  I have probably been through one of the most traumatic times in my life recently and never had one.  I would highly recommend it but you do need to follow it as it recommends.  Good Luck

recovered  Posted: 08/06/2009 12:09

Hi Betty, I understand where you are comming from. If you email david.recovered@gmail.com i have some suggestions that might help.

Anonymous  Posted: 08/06/2009 11:44

Hi Betty, I sympathise with your situation and your wife's. It must be terribly difficut for all of you but unfortunately it is up to your wife how much information her consultant shares with you, her next of kin. That is her decision and she has the right to medical confidentiality.

Betty  Posted: 06/06/2009 22:02

 

Hi There I am looking for advice on my current situation. My Wife is currently being treated in a private hospital for severe depression & anxiety disorder. She had been attending a consultant for just over a year but her condition has deteriorated considerably. She has spent close on 6 weeks in treatment & after two weeks in hospital she decided that we needed a break from each other as I was a negative influence on her condition. We are together a number of years and despite our ups and downs we are in a loving marriage. I have not seen her in person since then & it has developed that she now blames me for much of her depression & feels that our marriage is now over. I have been asked to not make contact with her but do receive messages from time to time from her & she knows I will be there for her. Ive been advised to give her space and as hard as it is I feel if it helps I have no problem keeping my distance. 

My main problem is that now she seems to becoming quite distant with her parents to whom she has always been very close. They are as worried as I am but the hospital consultant refers any enquiries regarding my wife's condition to my wife. I believe that the consultant owes it to the family or at least the next of kin to give feedback on my wife's prognosis & progress in her treatment. We feel she is not much better than when she went into the hospital, she's now becoming detached from myself and her parents & she seems to be concentrating her efforts on her relationship with the friends she has made with other patients in the hospital. 

We feel that there is a serious lack of support for the family and in summary I am looking for some advice as to what we can do.. do we not have rights to an open communication forum with the people that are treating my wife.

 

 

hiratio  Posted: 06/06/2009 00:27

Hi goaties.

Now this is only from personal experience in my case,every doctor that i went to see when i first got these panic/anxiety attacks said the exact same thing,it took a specialist psychiatrist to inform my GP that i in fact was not suffering from depression,they don't necassarily go hand in hand,also in my opinion a lot of modern day doctors need to go back and do a refresher course on this crippling dis-ability and read the relevant material on panic/anxiety.....especially the material written by a Dr Clare Weekes who was herself just a GP after her medical training and her herself suffering anxiety at a younger age,if every doctor reads her book and adopts Clare Weekes's approach there would be a lot more understanding doctors around and a more suitable treatment could be implemented,in Australia they did a study into which  drugs were the most over prescribed and not surprisingly the Anti Deprassants was, especially the SSRI family,they then did a study on the people that were on them and found that nearly all had no need to be on them at all...i believe they have a depression diagnoses guideline now,mind you thats here in Australia, I don't know if any other countries follow the same ? prescribing anti depressants for just panic/anxiety just doesn't work,many other sufferers that i know personally have been prescribed various kinds of anti depressants and have found the same thing,they simply just don't work.

 

goaties  Posted: 05/06/2009 09:57

hi all, finally had enough of feeling desperate. went to see my doctor yesterday and he explained to me that depression and anxiety go hand in hand. I didnt think i was depressed - maybe I am - I dont know what I am to be honest, all I know is I cant go on like this for much longer. He prescribed eflexor. Anyone being on these. Havent taken any yet - scared of the side effects. Like you Purple, I too am going on holiday in July. I find it extremely difficult to get there, panic attacks all the time - when Im there, just want to get home and dont enjoy it. I ususally get xanax for this, they work to a small degree. I just keep saying to myself that the kids are important and I cant spoil it for them. Anyone heard of the Linden Method?

MCGOVERN  Posted: 04/06/2009 20:29

hi there Purple,

If you want you can email me at geraldinemcgovern@eircom.net and I will give you details of programme and cds that helped. You will never look back once you start the programme. Talk soon.

Geraldine 

MCGOVERN  Posted: 04/06/2009 20:28

hi there Purple,

If you want you can email me at geraldinemcgovern@eircom.net and I will give you details of programme and cds that helped. You will never look back once you start the programme. Talk soon.

Geraldine 

purple  Posted: 04/06/2009 19:07

hi AB

i have tried that before, i love going out, but when it comes to going i qualm up, i get all worked up, my GP did say to me if this happens again i was to go back and see him r c the lady doctor, im going to c a lady doctor tomorrow about a personal thing so im going to mention this to her, thanksfor the nice things you said about me helping people, i like to do my bit thanks again

Anonymous  Posted: 04/06/2009 15:03

Hi Purple, My name is AbbY (I go by the title AB) and I have seen you on other discussions and have seen how kind you've been to others and your family so I just have a little bit of advice, as a non-medical person, which I know helps other people.

Take a little bit at a time, say to yourself: Now today I am going to get the clothes ready & pack and think about nothing else. Then another day, say to yourself, now I'm going to gather together the tickets, passports and documtation. The say to yourself: tomorrow we'll go to the airport / ferry and think no further than that at that point.

Sort of break it all down into small pieces. Does that make any sense to you.

AB

purple  Posted: 04/06/2009 13:46

hi

im on bloodpressure meds so i dont no if my GP will give anything for my attacks.. i hope that he can as i dont want to be like this when im going away, i no i will panic.

buzz  Posted: 04/06/2009 12:02

Took some pheno last night to combat anxiety. Crashed out for an hour, awoke feeling disorientated and then crashed again. Next to impossible to get up this morning, only regaining sense of normality now. And this was only 60mg!! Those barbiturates are strong medicine!

hiratio  Posted: 03/06/2009 23:24

Hi there MCGOVERN

Most of what i have explained to goaties is based on Dr Clare Weekes's techniques,our pyscologists usually follow her techniques down here although there are some newer types of cognitive behavouir techniques available today so they are mixed around a bit in treatments

Dr Claire Weekes was a fellow Australian and at the first year of my panic/anxiety attacks i tried to have a chat to her and see if i could be booked in to have a consult with her but unfortunately she had passed away one week prior to me phoning her office,she was actively treating people with panic until she became ill herself so i was told.

purple  Posted: 03/06/2009 21:56

hi mcgovern

please what type of help did u get, i need help with this, im going away in a few weeks and im so looking forward to it, we havent been away in 10 years as a family, . i no for a fact that when i have everything reasy and the day im going i will panic,

MCGOVERN  Posted: 03/06/2009 14:01

Hi Guys,

Ive just been reading your posts for a while now, and I can relate to a lot of your pain, however, I was through the same for some years and yes it can be overcome without medication but with the right help. You must stop focussing on the problem all the time, as this sentizises the nervous system more and more and tires the mind further, hence the vicious cycle recurring with the same thoughts coming up over and over, exhausting the mind.

I have been recovered now a year now, and its all to do with the Claire Weeks method, and it is a wonderful programme of accepting and facing. We can still do all the things we want to do, if we just stop focussing on ourselves and how we feel with this programme it teaches us how to stop fighting the fight all the time and just letting things be while still carrying on with our lives without the dread and FEAR. It is the Fear of Fear we are afraid of and that causes all the panic etc.

If anyone would like to contact me about the above programme, please feel free to email me.

You can all beat this and live a full life again!

geraldine

hiratio  Posted: 03/06/2009 01:07

Hi goaties.

Doctors don't like you to be on these kind of medicines for long as they are very addictive...sorry something else you didn't want to hear,the only other thing i can suggest is to go back and see your doctor and ask is there something stronger,ask your doctor about the medication Kalma (alprazolam) yes it is exactly the same as xanax but for some reason worked for me for some mysterious reason,i can now travel since being on them but i still have great difficulties travelling any great distances,i to must brush up on my congnitive therapy :)

I'm currently seeing a pyscologist again and he was telling me that there is some newer type congnitve therapies out and is going to teach me,so he says, that their is some newer approaches to rid these horrid feelings.

what has to be done is we need to focus on something instead of ourselves,for instance your daughters confirmation,start to think ahhhhh my daughter,i'm so proud of her,think of the funny things she has done throughout her life...things like that, when you feel agitated or panicky direct your thoughts to good things and not think about yourself,i'm part way there but like i said it is hard to break the cycle and you have to be prepared to put in the hard yards.

when i get the feelings you described i just say to myself...ok i got the trots...just means i have to sit on the loo,palpitations...i quite often think well ok yeah iv'e over breathed a little here, don't panic you can fix this by doing the relaxtion and breathing techniques that we have been taught.when feeling like i'm going to pass out...i just simply say to myself ok if i pass out someone will help me and an ambulance will be called,there really are some nice people out there :)

Let me tell you the chest pain a panic attack suffer feels is nothing compared to "real chest pain" iv'e been there.

Chin up and practice....practise..practise...don't expect immediate results it may take a couple of months but you must focus on getting rid of those negative thoughts of "oh my god here it comes"..."what will i do"..or "ohhh no i have to run home i can't handle this".It's hard as i explained but the easiest thing to do is let it all happen, the attack won't kill you even though thats the feeling you have....panic attacks has never killed anyone.

What dosage of xanax are you on ? I'm on 1mg of Kalma 3-4 times a day and that seems to keep me calm for the entire day  and night.I can't remember what dosage my xanax were when they put me on them,also i  tend to believe that there maybe a slight variation in the 2 drugs because where i am the doctor can write out a prescription for xanax but with Kalma he has to phone the health authority(government drug authority) and get an authority # before writing out a prescription for Kalma.

I hope this helps you out...

purple  Posted: 01/06/2009 13:17

hi

i got up yesterday morning and i was feeling ok,got everything ready to head out to wexford for the day, as i got into the car i suddenly felt weird, my heart was racing, i was sweating too, i felt sick, it was a panic attack, my hubby said are you ok, do you want to go back home, i said no im not letting this beat me, but as we got to wexford i felt fine, then durning the day it came back again, this was very frightening for me. i feel flustered today . what can people do to stop these attacks happening, advice please,

goaties  Posted: 31/05/2009 16:16

Hi hiratio, how long do i have to be on xanax for them to work. I only go to my doctor when I feel anxious, and know that i am going to "freak out" if I dont do something. I had an awful panic attack on Saturday at my daughter's confirmation, in my own home, when loads of people were there, took a xanax but no use. i do not want to be on these all the time. I am going on hoilday in July and already am worried sick.

goaties  Posted: 30/05/2009 16:39

hi horitao, think i will go back to cognitive therpy. i had awful day yesterday, it was my daughters confirmation, managed the church ok, but as soon as everyone started to arrive at the house I could feel those awful feelings start up. I felt sick, had diarrhea, heart palpatations, you name it - I had it. I took a xanax but no help. do i need to be on these for a while before they kick it. I only take them when I feel a panic attack coming on but they just didnt work yesterday. i managed to get through the day but all I could think of was running away somewhere. Noone seemed to notice though.

My confidence is practically gone at this stage. I don't go many places, just to work and home. Avoid as many social functions as possible. I am also forever trying to please people, anything Im asked to do , I do no question, even though it might not suit. i never express an opinion on anything and just sit there and listen. Is this part and parcel of panic attacks?

hiratio  Posted: 28/05/2009 22:29

Hi Goaties.

I fully understand,my life was normal to then one day bang(panic attacks can and do just come out of the blue with people- i won't go into them just yet but there have been many theories on this condition),although i was or should i say we were able to recognise the cause of mine. I know it is extremely hard but what needs to be done is when you are out socially and you start thinking that way is simply let it happen nothing will become of it,let it reach it's full blown state but stand your ground,do your deep breathing exercises and bring in with it the other congnitive behavoir therapy that you would or should of been taught.Firstly i should of started off by saying do not feel embarrassed by these debilatating attacks,make your family and friends aware that you suffer from them and are under treatment,i'm sure you will find most of them fully understandable of your condition but be warned some won't be so don't let that worry you,i bet they have done something more embarrissing than having a panic attack.

The Xanax will help take the edge off and make you feel calm and relaxed,as i said in my last post to you i was tried on Xanax but it didn't cut it with me so my GP put me on Kalma,now the weirdest thing is they are both the same drug....alprazolam....like i said Xanax might be Australias generic brand (cheaper) and the pharmacists said she couldn't really understand why Xanax didn't work and Kalma did,she said maybe a simple thing like talc powder or another by ingredient might of been dropped or added to the Kalma,who knows but Kalma became my salvation after about a week on that i was able to move about (i was house bound for several years...Agoraphobiac)

As long as you have been given a clean bill of health and been diagnosed with just only panic attacks yes you will recover(you know what i mean :)......) but it's entirely up to you ....like i said you have to put in the hard yards with the Cognitive Behavouir Therapy...i'ts very easy to give up on i know,and takes some practise,it happened to me,at the time it just seemed easier just to give up on the breathing and thinking techniques but once mastered you will feel much...much better and also be even more confident in life before these horrid panic attacks raised their head.

goaties  Posted: 27/05/2009 18:57

Hi hiratio, thanks for the advice. I have been to numerous psychologists, even tried acupunture, but to no relief. I can go months withous experienceing any symtoms, but something will come up, like a social event, and then all I can think about is that I will have an attack, embarrass not only myself but my family, and the more I think the more anxious I become. Its driving me insane. All I want is to be feel normal again. I first experinced a panic attack 20 years ago on the way home form a holiday. I have tried to think of what might have triggered it but cannot come up with anything. since then holdiays are so stressful - I end up getting valium just to get me on the plane- and when I there all I want is to get home. Does the xanax get rid of these awful feelings? Will I ever feel normal again?

Anonymous  Posted: 27/05/2009 09:03

Hi hiratio, any doctor I have gone to has order a full work up except in cases where diagnosis is clear - this is in both Ireland and France. I would regard anything else as arrogant or shoddy, to be honest. Hi goaties, I actually suffered similar to yourself after my own fahter died and I too was concentrating on my Mam. The panic attacks used to start at night - in my sleep!! I obsessed too as part of the anxiety and had to know where my parnter was 24 X 7 - like I had become some sort of possessive madwoman - and that's not me at all. So no, you're not going mad. It does sound like what I went thru. The panic attacks tho were entirely grief related and unfortunatley there is no treamtent but time. If the Dr. has perscribed xanax I'm sure they will help. I know people who take them for specific anxieties suxh as fear of flying and they're very successful. Do you think bereavement counselling could help you at all? . Take care of yourself.

DeeDee.

hiratio  Posted: 26/05/2009 22:48

Hi and welcome goaties.

your doctor is on the right track with medication xanax is the drug of choice for panic/ anxiety attacks,did he perform blood tests with you ? to rule out other things....I myself am on Kalma (alprazolam) exactly the same as xanax but xanax must be Australias generic brand as they don't cut it with me....Kalma seems to be the only drug that works with me.

The next step your doctor may organise a refferal to a psychologist or psychiatrist to determine if there is indeed an underlying problem,emotionally or something that may of occured when you was younger.Also if your doctor hasn't already done it,usually not they leave it to the psychologists or pyshiatrists to explain the relaxation techniques which do work but you have to be prepared to put in the hard yards.they recommend that you go to places that you avoid and stay there until panic has subsided,but they do not start you off on that immediately they say if it becomes to overwhelming to leave the situation till attack subsides ....de-sensitising they call it,they will get you to return to the uncomfortable places and remain there until you have calmed down and get you to stay there .....and after awhile doing this hopefully you will be the master of your destiny

I don't want to sound cruel...but don't focus your attention to much on your mum...she may well end up being your crutch (a prop for your anxieties)....i may be completely wrong but that is usually what happens to panic/anxiety sufferers,they find a prop.as for the obsessive kind of stuff thats best left up to your doctor , pyscologists or pyshiatrists.

I certainly hope something i have spoken about helps.

hiratio  Posted: 26/05/2009 22:11

Hi again Niamh

I am from Australia and all GP's here carry out full bloodwork in aiding their diagnoses of panic/anxiety attacks,theyjust simply can't say "ahhh after what you have just described is you are suffering from whats called panic/anxiety attacks" this is just down right poor medical professionalism,you have stated your self and so have i....although we have a dis-agreement on several issues like hyperglycemia,every one has had a bout of this at one stage or another in their life....albeit only short stints and more than likely only occurs once-twice a year,all it is ,is where the liver has absorbed(burnt up) all the sugar/glucose from itself and the blood stream,more prominent when you skip a meal and work to hard leading to stress on the body however as stated panic/anxiety never usually occurs in the non sensitised body and an actual diagnosed hyperglyceamic sufferer.

Now as a suffer of some of the organic illnesses i described previously panic/anxiety does not appear to be prevalent(panic/ anxiety can be differentiated from other bodily feelings) from and discussing it with other cancer ,diabetic and the low B12 sufferers (aneamic patients) they have told me that they haven't experienced what we experience in a mild....moderate...severe panic attack,sure they sit there and wonder "why me" "what have i done to deserve this" etc,etc.

Now i find it extremely strange that no Irish doctor doesn't order a full blood work up on first presentation of panic/anxiety,maybe your medicos are more confident in an accurate diagnoses of this ? I do understand that a womans body clock works completely different than a males and that certain hormonal conditions can give off the same symptoms as panic/anxiety,i'm not saying that the women are not suffering from panic/anxiety.

 

goaties  Posted: 26/05/2009 18:27

Hi, I am new to this discussion board. Have being suffering from panci attacks for years. They mainly come on when I have to face certain social occasions like weeings, confirmations etc, also have great difficulty going on holiday. Lately my anixeity levels have soared and dont seem to be getting any easier. I lost my dad two years ago and have been focusing my attention on my mum since then...making sure shes ok ...and kind of put grieving on the back burner for a while. I cant seem to make the simpliest of decisions, have got to the point where I am obsessed about housework and everything has to be in the right place. i feel I am going mad. I went to my gp and he prescribed xanax. I have been on these before as a temporary measure. Has anyone experienced the same anixieties, obsessions etc. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Anonymous  Posted: 26/05/2009 15:56

This is good advice Niamh but it might be useful for some people to know that.

Chromium is also used to combat excess cortisol (the stress hormone) spikes.

For all sexually active women who are not trying to concieve, be extremely careful about Vitamin C at such high doses as it can interfere with the pill. As always, with any supplements do consult your doctor as they can interfere with other medications.

It is quite simply untrue to suggest however that no GP in Ireland will do a full blood workup and a glucose tolerance test, among others, for a patient experiencing symtoms of a panic attack. Any GP I have every gone to, except for things like baterial infections which are easily diagnosed, has done a full blood panel - and yes it was in Ireland (and also France).

 

Niamh  Posted: 26/05/2009 11:39

Valuble supplements: Morning:

Chromium 200mg per day to increase insulin sensitivity

Full B complex try to look for one with 200mg of B5 Panthotenic acid great for energy and the adrenals and nervous system

Vitamin C 1000mg Cardio vascular, Immune and Adrenal support

Evening:

Magnesium:Calcium in a 2:1 ratio is best to help with sleep, anxiety and muscle tension

Zinc taken last thing at night just before bed. Excellant for the immune system and adrenals

It is also advisable to get your iron checked and supplement if it is low

Adding cinnamon to things also increases insulin sensitivity and having a protein rich snack 1 hour before going to bed will help people sleep through the nite. Oat cakes and hummus are great as they are low GI

Leaving a snack beside your bed if you do wake up and actually eating it I know this is difficult as the last thing you feel like doing if an attack is coming on is eating but it can seriously shorten the length of the attack. Not something sweet though. Think about how awful a panic attack patient feels after drinking alcohol, because alcohol is converted to sugar in the body. You can get a huge high followed by an awful low the next day, it's hypoglyceamic state that can induce an attack. Eating something before going to sleep can help greatly if you have drank.

I have studied in this area and tested it on myself finding it very beneficial. It's possitive and encourages over all well being. I just wish some one gave me this support when I was badly suffering. I don't think you should be giving advice unless you've experienced positive results with it yourself

Niamh  Posted: 26/05/2009 11:17

Where are you from Hirato? No GP in ireland would do that, depending on your age they might check your heart if your having palpations. Usually they offer an anti depressant or anti anxiety medication. The test for hypoglyceamia is the same one for diabetes, no doctor is going to give a panic attack patient an oral glucose tolerence test. Our cells become more resistant to glucose the more they are exposed to it. Being in a chronic state of stress means that they are being constantly exposed to glucose therefore making a person more susceptible to insulin resistance and hypoglyceamia. This not full diabetes and can be reversed easily but people who suffer panic attacks have to be aware because even if this is not the root problem it can make them feel a hell of a lot worse increasing instances. Try it for a few weeks before you turn your nose up at it.

 

hiratio  Posted: 26/05/2009 09:31

"My god I started having Panic atticks 10 years ago. I' ve had one in the last 5 years. Please stop giving advice to people if ur still having them now... because unless they've seriously reduced then your not recovered."

Thats your exact words,you your self have not reached a recovered status ,you still suffer even if it is has been 5 years.I have been reading posts again and no-one and that includes me,yes i made a suggestion on it but it was just a comment we were not promoting ECT (electro convulsive therapy) it has worked with success but it is not really a considered option for just panic/anxiety alone,if you re-read my post i was referring to a relative of mine that had it done on both sides of his brain and had worked successfuly for his condition.....schizoprhenia,he no longer requires medication...anti-depressants and the other drugs used for schizophrenia,Also i made a comment of a report that was made on ross river virus sufferers that by touching electric fences eliminated their ross river virus symptoms completely,ross river virus is identical to chronic fatigue syndrome and some sufferers have been game enough to engage in touching electric fences to get relief and have done,obviously i can't speak for all sufferers but a small number have actually done it with success.ECT is still used in most modern western medicine but is only used for extreme cases i believe.

hiratio  Posted: 25/05/2009 23:39

Ok...in this message :)

To put it in a nutshell 99% of organic illnesses, panic/anxiety never occurs

I.E.... glandular fever,cancer,hyper glyceamics,heart and lung conditions,vertigo..the organic illness list goes on.

hiratio  Posted: 25/05/2009 23:18

Hi Niamh

I honestly can't believe you just posted that.....any half descent GP tests for this, he/she orders a full blood work up when you first experience these horrid panic attacks and then monitor I.E..do regular blood work usually once to twice a year to make certain there are no changes.when i was first diagnosed with panic/ anxiety i had just about every test known to  medical science,the way you have explained hyper glycemic is totally different to the way any medical professional has explained to me,the adrenal gland expresses the adrenalin first in turn when to much has been produced eats all the sugar up in your blood and liver giving you the shaking and feinting feeling commonly known as hyperglycemic. the adrenalin comes from over anxious or a frightened state and it can be released while sleeping as your body may be so stressed out that you are  having a nightmare and not knowing it that causes you to wake during a panic attack or you may have woken  because your body is so sensitised by the feelings experienced during an attack.

I agree with you that every ones panic/anxiety attacks are not identical in path or development,there are a number of causitives for these attacks and no-one has the answers,sure they ASSUME that it is the way we have learnt how to over react in a panic situation,not true, in most cases there is a pyschological factor but not in every ones case like mine.

 

Niamh  Posted: 24/05/2009 00:34

My god I started having Panic atticks 10 years ago.  I' ve had one in the last 5 years.  Please stop giving advice to people if ur still having them now... because unless they've seriously reduced then your not recovered. Sorry but if you don't know why you were having them STOP advising people to have extreme electric shock treatment!!  The reason could be alot more simple than that!!!   Has anyone considered... Hypo glyceamia....  Look it up, alot of panick attack patients have it.  Although not the original instigator probably the reason most people who can't associate there attacks with anything but are still having them!  Hypo glyceamia:  Blood sugar levels drop below normal.  This is a huge stress on the body!!  The adrenals need to kick in to increase sugar levels.  This can initiate an attack.  A common side affect of Hypo glyceamia is waking during the night feeling anxious or having a panick attack due a rise in cortisol, putting the adrenal under stress as they should be resting at night.  The sugar levels drop during the night and then the adrenals wake us up.  Mostly due to a diet high in sugar and refined carbs.  Stress is the reason people start having panic attacks but hypo glyceamia must be considered if people have reduced their stress levels but are still experiencing unexplained attacks!  Symptoms include: trembling, shaking, dizziness, sweating, tingling, palpatations, racing heart, anxiety, irratibility, mood swings and speech difficulties. If anyone would like advice on treating hypoglyceamia I will post it, no problem...  : )

charlie1  Posted: 22/05/2009 19:27

hi there, sorry it took me so long to reply, i havent had any really....heartburn the first few days immediatly after taking it each day  but i sorted that by swallowing the tablet and then eating dry bread. my libido was kinda non existent for the first 6 - 8 wks but thats back thankgod! other than that iv been grand....everyone is different though i suppose. i would def advise anyone to try medication, panic was controlling my life and i can see that now. i had so many negative feelings about medication and it took me a long time to make the decision, but hopefully i can come off it in 6months or a year and things will stay as they are now. im young getting married soon and looking forward to it!

buzz  Posted: 15/05/2009 15:35

hi Charlie have you experienced any side effects from this drug?

charlie1  Posted: 14/05/2009 12:26

i finally caved and decided to listen to my gp iv been taking 20mg gerozac (lowest dose) once a day for 3 mths now and i haven't had a panic attack once....i feel so free. i havent had any side effects and i would recommend medication to anyone. thinking back i dont know how i lived with panic for so long....long may it last i say. im looking forward to enjoying everything life has to offer and not shying away incase i have a panic attack!

buzz  Posted: 08/05/2009 16:53

I had my first panic attack when I was 11, they were bad for a few years then tapered off a bit. In the past year or two they have got worse, I would love to know what triggers them because there are times when I am going along just fine and then all of a sudden BANG! There seems to be no rhyme or reason behind them, making them harder to avoid.

charlie1  Posted: 27/02/2009 14:05

hi niamh, hiratio....its been a few weeks since id had any panic until monday and iv never been as scared, i even rang my mam to come to stay with me...im 30 a mum of two and she lives 5 hours away so i must have been bad! it lasted for 3days on and off...i went to my gp finally as i was in a state, she gave me gerozac but im afraid to take them iv read too many bad stories of side effects. during the panic i had some scary thoughts. im still afraid as i dont think its totally gone this time. anyone know anything about gerozac? im also gettin married in august and we plan more kids so i need to be careful about what to do regarding medication....my gp swears these will help but i just dont know

Anonymous  Posted: 20/02/2009 12:51

Hi Patricia, Hiratio. I'm very late getting back to this, sorry. I was helping out family a lot these past few weeks. Ah I see, you're speaking from Australia- great to have such an international mix on here. That would explain then the difference so, if it hasn't been banned there. I too have accienally touched electirc fences in my youth and I can tell you the last thing it made me feel was charged up and ready to go - more like ready to lie down in a darkened room with something strong to make me sleep until the horrible sick feeling wore off. Everyone is different and reacts differently tho I suppose.

hiratio  Posted: 06/02/2009 21:39

Hi Again Anonymous.

I'm from Australia and shock treatment hasn't been banned here....yet,it's hard for me to say what our medical practitioners actually think about it here as my own GP was thinking about having it performed on me and back then there was no real solid evidence that it worked and i refused and the doctor had to oblige. I know that one of my relatives who has had this treatment for depression and schizoprenia he had ...this is going back from memory 2 lots to one side of the brain and according to my cousin didn't do anything but made him a bit jittery was is comment so later down the track he was told he was going to have another lot but to the whole of his brain,not just one side,he had that lot of treatment and to date is feeling much,much better and apparently off his anti-depressant medication and his comments now have changed. he wonders why they didn't do this in the first place,but mind you i think he was under another specialist and had done his homework on shock treatment for him to "zap" the whole brain...i'm with you in your opinion about this treatment but it must work on a number of patients as my cousins shock treatment was a success.

As for shock treatment this was stumbled accross accidently by a person suffering from ross river virus which is similar in make up to CFS. he accidently touched an electric fence and within a day or two all his ross river virus symptoms disappeared so i think the medicos trialed it on CFS sufferers with success as well. i couldn't tell you if it is common practise in the treatment of CFS. Sufferers themselves are actually self treating by touching electric fences,thats the stories i have been hearing,being on the land myself i have accidently touched an electric fence,it hurts..well more stunned than anything but after the shock wears off you do tend to feel kind of...well...excuse the expression charged up and ready to go but i'm not game enough to touch another electric fence since i developed panic/anxiety as i fear it may make the condition worse...just another fear i have Embarassed

Patricia  Posted: 06/02/2009 21:39

Not banned everywhere it would seem:

Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) is a medical treatment for severe mental illness in which a small, carefully controlled amount of electricity is introduced into the brain. This electrical stimulation, used in conjunction with anesthesia and muscle relaxant medications, produces a mild generalized seizure or convulsion. While used to treat a variety of psychiatric disorders, it is most effective in the treatment of severe depression, and provides the most rapid relief currently available for this illness.""
ECT often produces dramatic improvement in the signs and symptoms of major depression, especially in elderly individuals, sometimes during the first week of treatment. While it is estimated that 50% of these patients will experience a future return of symptoms, the prognosis for each episode of illness is good. Mania also often responds well to treatment. The picture is not as bright for schizophrenia, which is more difficult to treat and is characterized by frequent relapses.
A few patients are placed on maintenance ECT. This means they return to the hospital every one-two months, as needed, for an additional treatment. These individuals are thus able to keep their illness under control and lead a normal and productive life.

Anonymous  Posted: 06/02/2009 14:04

Hi Hiration, thanks for your response. Actually ECG IS in fact banned here (in Ireland I mean) and has been since about mid-year last year. The governing medical body for psychiatrists has confirmed this and it was condemned outright due to the harmful effects. It has a long and frankly appalling history pretty much worldwide. Perhaps you are speaking from a different cuontry tho and it isn't banned where you are.

The idea that running an electric voltage into the brain of a person already suffering seems barbaric to me and there are many in the medical community as well as lay peple who would agree. As for using ECG for CFS, sounds pretty horrific to me.

Anti-depressants were vastly over perscribed here in the 8o's too, mainly to women and were handed out for everything from gallbladder problems to empty nest syndrome to menopause. And I know in he U.S. they are still perscribed for undiagnosed (and untested in some cases) hypothyroidism. Not sure abou ADHD medication as thats a relatively new diagnosis here. I suppose it differs for different people. Some are helped by it when they exprience panic or anxiety and others are not.  I was lucky if you could call it that in that I knew what was causing my panic attacks and it was situational.

hiratio  Posted: 05/02/2009 20:22

Sorry wrong link....this is the one i meant to put up....

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/panic-attacks/DS00338

if the first link gets put up it is worth a read.the second link is some research findings

hiratio  Posted: 05/02/2009 20:08

Also something i found and forgot to link

http://www.npadnews.com/research.asp

hiratio  Posted: 05/02/2009 19:58

Hi Anonymous.

Shock treatment is a last resort really here but it isn't banned as they have found it can do wonders for depression and schizophrenia they have found...exscuse the terminology  :) that zapping one side of the brain doesn't give the full effect..so they reckon...whats needed so they say is a few treatments.. on one side and then on another 1-2 occassions the whole brain be zapped (both sides) there is a limit the # of times shock treatment can be used for obvious reasons.Some doctors have been shown by some people suffering chronic fatigue syndrome that by getting zapped by an electric fence (used for cattle) have actually cured them of chronic fatigue...maybe my zap wasn't big enough :) i'm still suffering to a degree.

Everything that we hear about panic/anxiety is interesting but this is an area that is not really funded that well to find an exact cause because even the  least person we expect to fall to this condition does so...there a quite a few actors with this condition.I don't know what the situation is like where you are from but our medical association looked into the matter of prescribing anti-depressants and found that it was the most overly prescribed drug along side the ADHD/ADD medication and both could be harmful to patients if they did not need to be on them so we now have a criteria that has to be met by patients for our GP's to diagnose depression,I don't doubt that this medication helps depression but i am one of many here that say that anti-deprassants don't help panic/anxiety...i attended one of our self help for panic/anxiety and we all were asked if the medication helped ...the most common answer was ...no....the ones that it did help were people with both conditions(the depressed and had panic/anxiety),we also were asked what we thought triggered our panic attacks the answers were like here very varying from bad childhood experiences,stress and financial worries etc,etc right down to diet.Even though it is now a recognised disorder i personally think that a lot more research needs to be done as i don't think they have quiet worked it out themselves,they are just as mystifyed as we are.

Anonymous  Posted: 05/02/2009 16:35

Hi Niamh, I used to suffer from panic attacks - thankfully resolved now. They were just like you suggested Patricia, -  brought on by a series of a sudden truamatic events. I KNEW the cause, the doctor perscribed sleeping tablets - which made me feel hungover. It's an amazing coincidence but I went on a heavy exercise routine - just in an effort to tire myelf out so i could sleep without being woken by a panic attack. I never considered that the endorphins produced had a good effect on may brain!

For those affected by low serotonin, I would say get out as much as you can - even on cloudy days, in the Winter. For prolonged spells would you consider using a light box? I have heard good reports of them.The information about 5 HTP is interesting. I had heard of it but my doctor said it that as long as I have a good diet, which I do, I will be getting the amino acid combination that I need anyway, as 5 HTP is almost useless on its own. An interesting thing was to, she said that serotonin was a brain chemical and was produced by the brain! Interesting too about some people being sensitized to anxiety, I have read a theory that babies - and this was common throughout the 40', 50s, 60's and even 70's here - who were fed 'on the clock' ie scheduled feeding instead of demand lead feeding, that this raising their anxiety levels and the stress resulting from it, lowered their tolerance to anxiety. Might be something in that.

Hiratio, just to let you know ecg (shock therapy) has now been banned for use here and medical authorities have outright condemned its use given how harmful it had proven to be.

Patricia  Posted: 05/02/2009 12:21

I think I forgot to put in this link:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-3930.html

Patricia  Posted: 05/02/2009 12:08

Hello to all:

Yes, Niamh, you are right.  Some people have the anxiety disposition hard-wired into the brain.  It is really only in relatively recent times that there has been research into the brain on anything near the same level as research into the rest of the human body.  More is known now about the hard-wiring.

Obviously, there is situational anxiety, or panic attacks, brought on by a series of sudden, rather awful, events.  I know that some years back I had to deal with a whole lot of seriously stressful events, all happening at the SAME time.  I look back and it seems like a nightmare, that it didn't really happen.  For the first time in my life I got these panic attacks (didn't know what they were!).  Anyhow, I eventually did go to a professional to find out what was happening.  I was prescribed something for the panic.  Well, after about a week, I put the tablets on the back of the fire!  They made me feel phased out. 

I went on a heavy exercise routine, and when I wasn't at that I knocked myself out doing other physical work.  I suppose the endorphins thus produced had a good effect on the brain.  I had no problem sleeping, and eventually the panic abated, until one day I realised it was no longer there!  But boy was it bad while it lasted.  I so sympathise with those who have to deal with panic and anxiety. 

P

hiratio  Posted: 04/02/2009 19:37

Hi Again Niamh

i don't know if i would be allowed to post the link but i found some interesting things on this natural drug you have spoken about. apparently this drug was banned by the FDA in the USA for 1-2 quite severe side effects that apparently have killed,this is most likely the reason why this drug is not available in Australia. if you read my link it is available in New Zealand and online in various countries.

i think every panic/anxiety sufferer goes through what you have described about seasonal causes. in my case i love summer because of the bright blue skies and as you say the sun however there is a price that comes with it,because of the heat the breathing seems to get more difficult,come winter time we get the grey looking feeling until some sun pops up :) i can tolerate quiet a bit of cold as i was bought up and have lived in our central highlands the best part of my life....but a lot of sufferers the cold weather can even trigger an attack.

My psyhcologist had informed me on one occassion that panic/anxiety cannot be cured,it can be managed but not cured. i certainly hope he is wrong because as you well know what it can do to people and no-one deserves that kind of debilitation for the rest of their life ....young or old...A lot of studies have gone into depression and they have said that it is or can be gentically passed on to date this can't be disputed but what they did was examined the 2, depression and panic/anxiety and came up with panic/anxiety was a side symptom of depression,i don't believe this for a second...sorry...i believe it is completely another type of illness,i do agree one can make one anxious if they have depression and vice versa with panic/anxiety but this is because we are at the end of our tether with our feelings,thoughts and physical symptoms,that seems a bit mumbo jumbo but i hope you can see what i'm trying to say ? you don't necassarily have to be depressed if you suffer panic/anxiety..i'm definately not,i hate these feelings but like you said as you do, i take on all the challenges that come with it,I can't comment on the depression part as i have never been diagnosed with depression so i don't know what a depressed person actually feels,i can only imagine that it's similar to a person that just suffers panic attacks.

Patricia...Hi,yes i agree with you about panic/anxiety being around for quiet awhile and people back in the 60's,70's and 80's people were ashamed or embarrased to go to their GP about the condition and were embarrassed to talk about what they were experiencing with family and friends but back then i don't think the condition was as prevalant as it is now.they say 2 out of every 5 people now suffer this condition (approx) now thats a lot of people of today suffering.the 60's is my era and i was perfectly healthy up until 1990 then wham i get what they name panic/anxiety,i have explained my reasoning as to how i believe i got it in previous posts.

Everyone has been given or have offered ideas on how to cope with these which is all appreciated i'm sure,but to date the only real aid is CBT and anti-anxiety medications to stave off the bigger symptoms,some have found natural remedies have helped them,I say what ever helps you(anyone in this condition)...go for it,if it works go...go..go..

Niamh  Posted: 04/02/2009 15:14

Patricia I think you hit the nail on the head there, it's hard for some people though because I also think that panic attacks can be a product of long term low level anxiety aswell, which means people may not even link them to stress coz nothing has changed in there life but suddenly they are getting these attacks that never happened before.  I also believe that everyone has a certain tolerance to stress or anxiety.  A person may never experience a panic attack in the most stressful of situations but other attacks can be brought on by something very small.  Various things can affect this tolerance level some people are just born with an anxious predisposition, maybe some people have ingested something to sensitize their nervous system and some peoples' systems are overwhelmed by chemicals in their diet whatever the reason I think the key to recovery is managing these symptoms.  Whether it's doing some yoga, going to counselling, getting extra sunlight, taking a natural supplement, people need to try everything to see what will help them.  Perhaps re prioritising some of the basics will add fulfillment and happiness to life and reduce anxiety levels. 

*Relationship, *Finances, *Career, *Family, *Creativity, *Physical exercise, *personal development and last but not least - *fun!  We all need balance in our lives!

People need to know there is a road to recovery : )

Niamh  Posted: 04/02/2009 14:49

 I did mention in my paragraph that it shouldn't be taken alongside anti depressant medication.  But that's interesting that people take it so that they don't feel so bad the next day after partying surely that would only imply that they do actually work?  A lot of natural medicines are discredited by the pharmaceutical companies which don't want them cutting into their own profits so you have to be aware of where the clinical trials have been run and by who?From experience of taking 5HTP myself and also questioning others who have taken it I have found only positive results.  People are welcome to test it out for themselves.  I mentioned sunlight as my anxiety I feel was linked to SAD Seasonal affective disorder which is a condition where people are affected by sunlight or more to the point a lack of it.  It is very common in Ireland.  I always feel more anxious during the winter months some people feel depressed.  Believe me though I'm in very in tune with my body, I actually consider myself recovered coz everything that affects me, I meet it head on with practical tactics to stop it in it's tracks or at least lessen the affects!  People need to be in tune with their bodies and figure out which makes them feel worse and try various things that help them feel better, that's what will help them recover in the end, but absolutely everyone is different, these are only suggestions.  Your theory about the chemical additives is interesting, and they have indeed been found to affect anxiety so eliminating them from the diet would be a really positive step!

Patricia  Posted: 03/02/2009 22:10

Hello to Hiratio, and everyone:

I think panic attacks always existed, except that they had no name, so to speak, and were not recognised for what they are: a product of severe anxiety.

In the past people would be ashamed to even say they felt that way, and I can only imagine what many must have suffered, not realising what was happening to them. It must have felt like going crazy.

P

hiratio  Posted: 03/02/2009 20:40

Hi again...i did a bit of online researching on your suggestion and from my understanding of their studies does not mix well with anti-depressants. have a read,you may of already read it but any ways heres a link for anyone else interested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-HTP

I have also just found that these pills you are talking about are not available in Australia. i have not found that they are illegal but they are not kept ...if you want them you have to order them in from overseas.Also from the reading that i have just done most people use them for ...i suppose you could call them "party drugs" they say it gives them more energy for night clubbing and wake up the next morning without a hang over.

hiratio  Posted: 03/02/2009 20:19

Hi Niamh.

St Johns Wort is... well it was an acceptable form of alternative medication for panic and anxiety until some scientists found that it may actually do more harm than good to your health. as soon as i can find the studies i will if allowed put the link up. people use St Johns Wort at their own risk today. now i maybe mis-interpreting here but when the day looks grey outside it usually is it's just the way you and your brain is interpreting the colour. grey always seems to be associated with depression but this is not always the case, your brain might be trying to trick you into saying ohhh no i'm getting depression when in fact you most probably aren't at all. your brain will try anything to keep you in any kind of panic state. Scientests and medical specialists have performed many placebo testing and nothing appears to work on panic attacks. they have used plain water in testing and people not knowing what was in the injection started to say "hey i'm starting to feel better" after a few shots of water same with vitamins & minerals....can you see what i am trying to point out ? but on the other hand the sufferers that have that pressing feeling on their chest and difficulty breathing were administered Nitrolingual spray or tablet under the tongue and reported no change in the pressure on the chest and difficulty breathing so to the medical specialists this ruled out any organic heart disease. this is where my GP made his first mistake with panic/anxiety with my chest pain. the spray under the tongue starts to make my chest pain disappear within a minute of taking it,depending on the severity of chest pain it may take several sprays under the tongue to do anything. I have heard of 2 rather radical procedures to completely remove panic/anxiety from ones life and they both aren't accepted in todays medicine...1) is to sever a certain nerve,which one i cannot honestly tell you as i can't remember,but on my next visit to my GP or pyshcologist i will ask which one it was 2) shock treatment(small electrical currents)..some doctors have varying opinions on whether this in fact does work it is still being performed today. it is said to have worked well on some schizoprenic and depressed patients. someone very close to me worked in a major hospital (now retired) had informed me that this procedure is not very nice to watch even from a professional that has to perform the procedure and does not always have the desired effects...sometimes it can make the anxious person worse or develop another condition.

Niamh  Posted: 03/02/2009 16:20

Charlie 1 I feel exactly the same. My anxiety is definitely higher on dark days, This is because you don't get that natural boost of serotonin that you would from sunlight to help you feel better. A lot of doctors will actually prescribe a mild anti depressant for people with anxiety to help them feel better so it's only natural that the things which help our bodies produce serotonin ourselves such as sunlight will help us to feel better. I believe there is a direct link between depression and anxiety. The hormone cortisol released during times of stress has been proven to reduce levels of tryptophan in the body, without tryptophan we cannot produce serotonin. Trytophan is an amino acid, it is available to buy as a supplement called 5 HTP from the UK but not from Ireland. Alot of people actually find 5HTP more successful than anti depressant medication for this reason it has been classified as a medicine now in Ireland along with st. John's wort and is only available on prescription. You could ask your doctor about it as it would be a natural alternative to drugs. In fact if you type in serotonin into your search engine I'm sure 5HTP would be one of the first things to pop up. It is very important for anyone else reading this article to know that 5HTP should not be used alongside anti depressant medication as both increase serotonin levels therefore increasing risk of over dose. However if you do wish to come off your anti depressant medication 5HTP can be used then to minimize withdrawals affects but always under the supervision of your doctor/GP. A really nice thing about 5 HTP is that it can have immediate results. This is because serotonin is actually manufactured by the body in the stomach so you can start feeling results within a few hours of starting to take it. It can also help with problems sleeping, not insomniacs but just general sleeping problems from stress etc.

 

hiratio  Posted: 02/02/2009 20:28

Hi Charlie1, yes this does happen to me the symptoms you have described. i myself don't like medication but for me to have at least half a decent lifestyle i am on anti panic/anxiety medication. it's not an anti-depressant,although it is highly addictive but stops the frequency of panic/anxiety. the drug is called Kalma (alprazolam). it is exactly the same as xanax but for some weird reason xanax just does not work for me, maybe there is certain ingredients missing in xanax for it to not work and kalma does. depression does not have to be present with panic/anxiety attacks...they are 2 different conditions....although some people can and do have both conditions.

Did you read my previous postings ? i commented on what i thought caused mine and also expressed my opinion on what cause todays panic/anxiety attacks as this condition was rarely heard of back in my days..60's,70's and the 80's in the 90's the name started to pop up. i'm not saying that it never happened back in them eras but it WAS less common than it is today. I don't know whether it was because of our stature back then .....to be frowned upon because we looked physically fit and complaining that we are sick, it wasn't acceptable back then as much as it is today. It was around the late 80's to mid 90's the laws for additives and preservatives were chopped and changed in our supermarket foods and so called fresh fruit and vegetables.

charlie1  Posted: 31/01/2009 13:03

hi there, thanks for all your replies...its actually really comforting to know others have been through the same thing. i have tried eft and hypnotherapy none have really worked for me though but im determined to keep searching. i havent expierienced any panic since i last left a message, so about a week or so but that seems to be how it goes i could be absolutely fine for a week or even two and then suddenly it will hit me and ill be a bag of nerves for any from a minute to a few hours. anything anything can trigger it...a certain smell even, its so strange. i dont want to ever try medication as im so afraid of that kind of thing ....i dont know why. i dont think i suffer from depression as i never feel 'depressed' or anything like that. i have noticed though that i can feel panic on a really dull miserable kind of day sometimes....and also if i go out for a drink and have a late night i can feel panic the day after that...does anyone get this?

Niamh  Posted: 31/01/2009 01:23

Hi Kissey,

Your doctor seems to be looking after you well. I was just wondering if you ever considered going a more natural route for your treatment? For example magnesium is a natural muscle relaxant which can be beneficial in lowering blood pressure as the blood vessels themselves contain a layer of muscle. There's anbundance of supplements for example omega 3 fish oil which also doubles as a natural mood enhancer. Co Q10 which promotes over all cardio vascular health and energy production or just as simple as garlic which can promote healthy circulation and help lower blood pressure. None of the above have nasty side affects but shouldn't be self pre-scribed either. If you went to a nutritionist they would spend at least an hour on your first visit taking a case history and giving you a healthy eating plan along with recommending supplements working along with your GP to get your blood pressure down and to help you feel better. Nutritional therapy is so interesting as it's based on the functional medicine model where they look at all the presenting symptoms and try to explore if these could be linked through something as far back as your child hood. Supplements have less of a risk of interacting with a drug than if you were already on a drug and then prescribed more for example if you wanted to take something for your anxiety/panic attacks on top of the blood pressure medication. Having said, you should always notify your doctor of any supplements taken and you should never decide to take yourself off medication without discussing it with your doctor first.

kissey  Posted: 29/01/2009 19:16

hi

my GP has put me on meds for my bloodpressure, asked me about my panic attacks. i said im not too bad. if i get anymore bad attacks i have to go and see him. im doing a little better, as i have said taking each day as it comes.

ger  Posted: 28/01/2009 23:29

Hi Guys,

I have just been reading ur posts, and as i have been there before myself with suffering panic attacks for years and years, i found the Claire Weekes method last year and how it has changed my life since.

It is a self help method and you practice it every day.

I tried everything in my life up til then.

ger

hiratio  Posted: 27/01/2009 19:39

Hi Again.

It is true what your GP has told you but not all blood pressure meds interfere with anti anxiety meds although i can't say about anti-depression medication as i have allergic reactions to them. In fact i may be the only one out the rest here that say that they don't work for panic/anxiety attacks (anti-depressants). i was myself on high blood pressure medication but i gave them up because i'm very touchy about medication. whilst on high blood pressure medication i did actually pass out whilst driving a car with my 2 kids in it. i came round ...on the opposite side of the road. blackouts is a common side effect from high blood pressure meds. i told my cardioligist ....no no more....especially when i can drive to certain spots with my children. I have to carry around a medication that is used to treat angina but even still i can't use it unless there is someone else around so as i can lay down. after having it i get what they call a GTN headache caused by the spray under the tongue. they have actually diagnosed me with prinzmetal angina. this is part of where my GP kind of got a polite letter from my specialist....never put chest pain down to panic/anxiety....

kissey  Posted: 27/01/2009 13:25

hi

my GP told me that he cant put me on anything just yet. you see if i got on meds for high blood pressure, some meds inertact with other meds. i am on gamnil for depression. i am having a rough time at the moment but taking each day as it comes. what im doing is when i wake up in the morning i do hope its a nice day out and i actually listen to our birds in the avery, and of course my two dogs barking. i lie down for a while. i dont get up early. if i have had a bad night sleep i get up around 11am. i dont plan any outings, as this makes me more flustered. i wait till i get up then i would say, come on we will go out. i have tried to explain this to my kids, they sort of understand. i keep saying dont be making arrangements for me to go out. my GP has told me this, wait till the next day and then if u want to go out go. this has sort of helped me in the last few days. i had been so flustered all week. we were asked to a 40th. i didnt feel like going. i cried to my husband, explained to him what was wrong with me. he said kissey if you are not up to going out dont go. dont be making yourself ill by thinking about it. satruday came, i got up went out to do a little shopping, that evening made dinner, then got into a bath, got ready to go out. i felt so relaxed. this is because i didnt think of what i was going to be doing, but i suffered years ago with the attacks, they came back a few months ago. dont worry, my gp is looking after me. thanks.

hiratio  Posted: 27/01/2009 13:06

Hi Kissey

how long have you suffered panic/anxiety attacks ? if it has been quiet a while your GP should have tried some form of medication as well as some referral(s) to a pyhciatrist or pyhcologist.I to suffer from claustraphobia and fear of heights (ever since i can remember)but funnily enough they don't trigger my panic attacks...fear of heights,sure i get all jittery :) but they just don't interfere with my panic/anxiety condition ,i do get a bit panicky when using a lift but i just get on with it, the way i think is if somethings going to happen it's going to happen and there is always someone around to help if it turns out to be serious :) not everyone is cold hearted....

can you remember what you did when you got out of bed first before the panics came along ? if you do ...try it again,when you wake up yawn...stretch....,hard to do i know but as we have trained our brain to think differently because of what you are feeling at an exact moment, with a bit of practise it will come, when i wake up i always think about what the weather for the day is going to be like or i listen out for the wild birds, i get up and i shouldn't but i do, i go have a cigarette.not all the time but generally i have mild panics before i'm due for my medication i pop my magic pill ..yes i know it's only masking a problem but we can't find the problem to fix apart from trying CBT (cognitive behavourial therapy)10 minutes after that magic pill gets into the bloodstream i'm right for the day unless i have to travel somewhere by myself.

Doctors are becoming more understanding of the condition but i firmly believe that they have a lot more to learn about them even the scientists do,iv'e stated in an early post of what i believe is the major contributor of this debilatating disorder.i can't go into to much detail but my GP has learnt a valuable lesson from just saying "ohhh look it's just a panic attack you will come right soon" my problem at that stage was more than just a panic attack.

kissey  Posted: 26/01/2009 22:59

hi again

My gp told me that i was never being put on meds for panic attacks, but I'm due back up to c him this week, what he told me how to deal with this is-dont think about where u r going, when u get up, say ok i am going to go out and go shopping. Not make arramgements to go out as i get flustered thinking about it. I am taking each day as it comes; also i think about people who r worse off than me, and I think about it and say- I am not dying, I'm not sick, I'm well. This sometimes helps me.

kissey  Posted: 26/01/2009 13:47

hi

harito

sorry no my GP hasnt got me on bloodpressure meds yet, he is going to be putting me on some in the next few weeks if my bloodpressure doesnt come down. also my panics attacks are not due to my blood pressure or depression. my mistake, sorry about that. i am very much like you with the panic attacks, mine come and go. im not on anything for them, but on gamnil for depression. i went out the other night to a 40th, my husband was with me, and my brother and his partner, and a few friends and family. i was getting flustered in the pub, i felt very hot and flushed. my hubby noticed that i was starting to get very nervey, so he come over to me and relaxed me. i am also like this if i have to travel far, i cant travel on a bus i get very paniky. i am also a sufferer of clausterphobia, i hate small spaces. thanks for your mails also.

hiratio  Posted: 23/01/2009 20:31

Hi kissey.

I was going to mention organic illnesses in my last posting but i thought it way to long to continue adding on. you say your doctor has put you on blood pressure medication, to me this isn't panic related especially if it has been raised in a non panic /anxiety situation, blood pressure can slightly raise just sitting in the doctors surgery. i'm not saying stress doesn't alter blood pressure but for the GP to put you on medication it must be up above the threshhold to warrant medication. your heart can beat over 200 per minute (in a healthy heart) without doing damage however as time goes(years of continual fast beating) on, they have found panic /anxiety attacks may well be a cause for heart failure. May i ask what medication you are taking for your panic/anxiety ? I am taking kalma (alprazolam) it took doctors many years to find the right drug. i still get panic/anxiety attacks and some real big whooshers when i am out but i put into practise what i have been taught sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. 95% of the time i can reduce the level of anxiety and be able to move on but like i said in my last post am unable to travel anywhere by myself (any great distances away from my home) the 5% that i can't stop is debilitating and i am feeling ill for the next day or two as it just zaps all my energy from me.

kissey  Posted: 22/01/2009 22:31

hi all

there is nothing as bad as panic attacks. its like u want to explode. i have had panic attacks all this week, my heart racing. i was with my GP today and he even said god your heart is racing. thats because i was in a state. he checked my blood pressure that was up so was my heart rate. i am going to be put on meds for my blood pressure as it has been at me for a while. i feel so lost with this. its A HORRIBLE FEELING BEING LIKE THIS. I WOULD LOVE IT TO GO AWAY.

hiratio  Posted: 22/01/2009 21:24

Hi...I have suffered from panic/anxiety attacks for well over 18 years and have suffered the same symptoms as many of you are experiencing now. everyone suffers differently but there is a common factor(s) in panic/anxiety....this is what indicates to your GP whether you are suffering from panic/anxiety attacks or depression. in some cases both are present. I have read some interesting postings here particularly the last one on this page about enviromental factors, the specialists telling us about coffee and panic attacks...diet and panic attacks... on one of our morning shows here recent studies have shown about coffee discussing the wives tales about the effects of coffee they had found that almost all of the tales were unfounded like dehydration,addictiveness it's diuretic properties etc,etc. Now i personally do know that coffee can attribute to panic/anxiety but thats is probably because i was drinking 25-30 cups a day and that is not in moderation. my panic/anxiety levels did drop but did not disappear. In fact their study into coffee had found that there was an ingredient in it that was good for us,please don't ask what ingredient as i don't remember now.I am drinking 3 cups a day now,have been for the last 8 years and yet the panic still persists and i can't travel to places with out anyone. My diet is as good as any...lets say an athletes diet and yet i still have these panic/aniety attacks, so personally i have ruled those 2 out as a cause however i firmly believe that it is todays fast food and supermarket food and cordial including fizzy soft drinks with all these preservitives and additives that may well be the underlying cause of most cases of panic/anxiety and even ADD/ADHD and now many cancers. As where i live panic/anxiety is a recognised illness however not all doctors are sympathetic to it they are still under the impression that it is in our minds.I myself cannot rule out my diet when i was younger as my eating habits were different back then while truck driving but i do believe that a snake bite by one of our venomous snakes here..the copper head,i had spoken to our local parks and wildlife snake experts about this concern now he couldn't fully commit to say that the copper head bite was my actual cause for obvious reasons he's not a doctor,but in his experiences with copperhead snakes their venom attacks the nervous system and you guessed it or have read it thats where our panic/anxiety stem from the para sympathetcic and the sympathetic nervous system,now in my case ...to cut a long story short the day i thought i was bitten by a snake i got really ill from that day and it lasted about a week with full blown panic/anxiety symptoms after that while i was driving the companies truck on my usual work rounds.why didn't i go to hospital you might say...being an experienced bushman i couldn't say for certain that it was a snake even though i saw the grass fold down where the snake was leaving off away from me and that i had 2 very small puncture marks that hardly penertrated the skin,there was also a stick down next to my foot so that could of even of flicked up and slapped me on the back of the calf muscle,also it was a stinking hot day and when i sit back and think about that day it could of been sunstroke,many doctors of today refuse to believe this situation for what ever reasons i do not know but i have experienced their beliefs and the majority of their beliefs is that there has to be a trigger as like in early childhood experiences,losing loved ones,abused as a child ,etc,etc....while in some this can be true especially in abusive situations i do not believe this to be true in other cases as we all have to deal with lost loved ones many times in our lifetimes.OK sure some people never get over losing their mum or dad but in saying that they don't all get panic/anxiety attacks they seem to withdraw from family and friends just to be alone...everyone grieves differently,they said that my panic was caused by losing my father at a young age and that i was there watching him die...yes it did knock me for a six it's not every day someone witnesses their own parent dying right in front of them,i grieved as a person would, after the grieving process my life returned to normal, by that i mean that i grieved and asked a lot of questions but wasn't suffering any panic/anxiety symptoms what so ever my panic/anxiety reared it's ugly head up 10 years later in the prime of my life and after this snake buisness,i also failed to mention that there was one doctor that believed me in this scenario but he put it down to cleaning agent poisoning from homebrewing my own beer at the time,the residue that wasn't washed off properly or stuck in the bottom of the bottle where it wasn't highly visible being in brown bottles,he has since passed on but he sat and listened and did his research and thats what he came back with,basically what he was trying to do was find out what was going on with me he didn't just say "look it's just " panic attacks, he researched on what can interfere/damage the nervous system and because most of my symptoms were far less than other recognisable nervous system diseases they were ruled out and yet because my symptoms closely resembled panic/anxiety he wasn't really inclined to say that it was in my mind something chemically had altered my nervous system if you can get what i'm tying to say....to go from the prime of my life to very ill in one day and scarred with panic/anxiety from then on

So yeah theres my story ,sorry if it seems mumbo jumbo but that was my experiences and my belief is ....panic/anxiety attacks are caused by outside chemicals.there has been no real studies to show this as of yet and i believe that there should be.

Patricia  Posted: 22/01/2009 15:48

On the topic of phobias:

A specific phobia is an intense fear of something that poses little or no actual danger. Some of the more common specific phobias are centered around closed-in places, heights, escalators, tunnels, highway driving, water, flying, dogs, and injuries involving blood. Such phobias aren't just extreme fear; they are irrational fear of a particular thing. You may be able to ski the world's tallest mountains with ease but be unable to go above the 5th floor of an office building. While adults with phobias realize that these fears are irrational, they often find that facing, or even thinking about facing, the feared object or situation brings on a panic attack or severe anxiety.

Specific phobias affect an estimated 6.3 million adult Americans and are twice as common in women as in men. The causes of specific phobias are not well understood, though there is some evidence that these phobias may run in families. Specific phobias usually first appear during childhood or adolescence and tend to persist into adulthood.

If the object of the fear is easy to avoid, people with specific phobias may not feel the need to seek treatment. Sometimes, though, they may make important career or personal decisions to avoid a phobic situation, and if this avoidance is carried to extreme lengths, it can be disabling. Specific phobias are highly treatable with carefully targeted psychotherapy.

Niamh  Posted: 22/01/2009 14:03

I cannot recommend 2 books more highly for recovery. Aine Tuberty - When Panick Attacks and Adrenal Fatigue- the 21st century stress syndrome by James L. Wilson. Aine breaks down and explains exactly what panick attack are and coping techniques, it really helps with not being afraid of them. James Wilson is a doctor who explains the link between adrenal exhaustion and how your life style and diet has brought you to this point with loads of examples of real patients. Then he goes on to explain simple techniques to support your adrenals. Just one example of this is eating as soon as you get up in the morning, fasting for long periods means your blood sugar levels drop. Your adrenals are what have to compensate for this by pumping out adrenaline to restore blood sugar balance. More adrenaline into an already stressed system is not going to leave you feeling very well. He believes that if you skip breakfast you can end up playing catch up for the rest of the day. This is just one simple tip in a book full of knowledge which is actually very easy to read. As well as the books though I would recommend talking to a counsellor, it is important to find someone who suits you and you feel happy with so you may end up seeing a few different people at the beginning. This is perfectly natural so do not get dis-heartened if you don't find one immediately. It helps to talk to a professional who understands what you are going through and can be a big stress relief. You basically need to look at panick attacks similar to an illness which you need to take steps to recover from. This illness begins with stress and also diet and lifestyle have a huge impact. For example getting into a routine of going to bed a couple of hours earlier can have a huge affect on how much better you can feel! You need to learn the things that make you feel bad and put in practice the things that make you feel better. For example coffee is a stimulant, it pushes your adrenals to release adrenaline this is only going to make you feel worse and can actually bring on a panick. Light exercise for example a brisk walk, a swim, cycling, yoga, will lift your moods, is excellant in helping to reduce stress and will also help balance blood sugar levels. So your road to getting better is to reduce stress, do more things that make you feel better and happier and eat a healthy diet that balances your blood sugar levels to keep the adrenaline at bay. The books explain alot better than I do and amazon has good value with new and 2nd hand books available take advantage of the great exchange rate at the moment!!! It's a slow road to recovery but if I've done than so can you : )

Patricia  Posted: 22/01/2009 10:45

Hello Charlie:

Yes, those attacks can be so paralysing and difficult to control. I know exactly what you mean, as about eight years ago I suffered from them, as a result of a series of overwhelming life events, which caused me severe anxiety. The good news is that, yes, they can be overcome, and you will overcome them. I think it is important to find the right therapist. I found hypnotherapy to be truly invaluable. Exercise also works wonders, and by exercise I mean effective sustained exercise, at least three times a weeks. You are a young person, so this will not present a problem for you. You will be amazed. We were taught an excellent breathing exercise: take in breath to the count of eight (breathing deeply; hold that breath for eight counts, then breath out slowly to the count of eight. Do this eight times, and as many times a day as you wish.

I promise that you will see an improvement if you could combine therapy, exercise and the breathing exercises.

All the best

Patricia

recovered  Posted: 21/01/2009 18:59

Hi Charlie 1. (or any other sufferers,) If you would like a success story, email me david.recovered@gmail.com

LOLA  Posted: 21/01/2009 16:57

Charlie,

I suffered from panic Attacks and chronic anxiety and ended up in hospital over two years ago. When i got out i went through Cognitive Behavioural Therapy and was put on Lexapro. I am finished the therapy now and off the Lexapro and feel great. I still have bad days but i accept i will always be an anxious person and have learned to deal with it through breathing exercises, visualization and trusting in God. My previous job was stressful and i changed jobs which has helped me also. It's been a long road and there has been alot of tears and feelings of sheer desperation but believe me there is light at the end of the tunnel - just believe in yourself. One last point - whatever is said about the HSE on the radio etc. I was looked after superbly.

charlie1  Posted: 21/01/2009 14:26

hi there, ive been suffering panic attacks for 4yrs now. i get the most overwhelming feelings of fear, death or that things are weird or surreal and think that thats it im going mad...iv a great fiance and 2 beautiful kids...so why cant i get rid of these? i wish i could enjoy my life but these make me afraid of doin anything. i see a counsellor regularly but i dont feel its going away. im afraid of medications for some reason...can anyone help me? im off work today coz i had a bad one last night and couldnt face going in in case it happened again. i love to hear of any success stories out there. im only 29 and just want them to go away.

stephen (BNK76357)  Posted: 10/10/2008 00:42

Hi i noticed this post,it's only the first part " the dizziness and out-of-breath sensation are very different to what I have experienced as panic attacks. In fact they sound a lot like blood pressure problems ". Every individual experiences different symptoms in a panic/anxiety situation,most are the same but depending on the person more can be felt during an attack,i suffer from dizziness and out of breath sensations during my attacks,the sensation of out of breath is merely just hyper ventilation,this is of course you have been fully checked by your DR,same as with the dizziness,it's your way of thinking during an attack and your poor old brain is working flat out trying to process everything,is it any wonder why you feel dizzy :),once again if you have been given the all clear from your DR for any organic causes of dizziness.

kissey  Posted: 07/08/2008 20:52

hi i woke up this morning feeling rather odd, i now think that i was going to have a panic attack, all day i kept feeling so low, trying to breathe, feeling closed in.please god i hope i get up tomorrow feeling great as i hate these panic attacks, if they keep up i am going to have to go to see my gp again, my gp is very understanding.

Anonymous  Posted: 04/08/2008 11:48

Hey i was just wondering if anyone could help me out with this! i think i have just admitted to myself that i have panic attacks or anxiety attacks and i personally feel like it is ruining my life and i dont know how to fix it. i just dont want to be thinking these things anymore! i dont want to take any medication for it but i dont know what else to do! my problem is like say on a night out with friends i start feeling weird or not myself and think im going to faint or something! i feel awkward in most situations like if i am in a queue for a long period of time my heart will start racing for no apparent reason. i dont particularly know what it is im worried about. like just the other day i was sitting in the hospital waiting for the doctor and it happened again. i dont know why. i didnt have any idea as to what was causing it. all i know is that i didnt want to be there! before when i was about 15 i didnt mind plane journeys at all i enjoyed them but then when i was going on holidays at 17 i developed an enormous fear of flying i was convinced i was going to die! then for the boyfriends christmas present i got him a flying lesson and he got to bring someone up with him and i was terrified to go but i was determined to not let my fear stop me so i went and by the time we landed i felt not afraid anymore but we went to holland this year and the fear started again. i felt fine all day up until about 10 minutes before getting on the plane and my heart started racing. my doctor had given me tablets for the flight. i forget now what exactly they were but after about 10 min on the plane i was completely calm but not myself! again by the time we landed i was fine but quite out of it too! i couldnt take any tablets coming back because i would be driving home not that i minded i hated them i didnt feel like myself at all! i just sat there like a vegetable all the way over but again once we got back i didnt feel afraid anymore however we are going to spain next month and im afraid again! except now its not so much im afraid of the plane crashing more so afraid of getting a panic attack and the holiday being ruined! sorry about all the bable! any advice would be much appreciated! thanks

kissey  Posted: 27/07/2008 00:23

hi i was told that i suffered panic attacks, due to being claustrophobia. i am terrified of going into a lift. this is terrible as i cant even go out shopping as if there is a lift i have to walk up stairs. my husband and kids are very supportive with me. also phobia is also a terrible thing to suffer, i cant stand spiders. i go mental if i see a spider in the bedroom or bathroom. i scream and i have to calm down. is there anyone out there like me? thanks, kissey.

Anonymous  Posted: 24/07/2008 08:45

Dodge, the dizziness and out-of-breath sensation are very different to what I have experienced as panic attacks. In fact they sound a lot like blood pressure problems - which can , of course, be corrected by a healthy diet, relaxation and exercise. Vertigo could also be a possibility as this can come and go. My panic attacks are somewhat different (specilaist diagnosed) but I already have a very healtyh diet, exercise frequently and use relaxation techniques to de-stress so they're not lifestyle related. (I almost wish they were in a way, then I might be able to resolve them myself)

Shelly  Posted: 23/07/2008 20:22

Thanks anon

dodge  Posted: 23/07/2008 17:38

For all panic attack sufferers. My symptoms were difficult to identify.st the time.... they just seem to creep up on me.. I couldn't tolerate music especially loud music it made my head spin, If I stood in a queue for the cashier, I would have to grip the queuing rope in case I would fall. When I was in conversation and was trying to relate a story excitable .. I seemed to run out of breath and not be able to speak.. as a result I would need to leave the person whom I was speaking to because I would experience a dizzy sensation in my head. These feelings were hard to describe at the time and very perplexing. I never believed I had what was called a panic attack. However, when I described this experience to a nurse friend of mine. she pointed me in this direction. If I stood still for a long time I would need to keep my feet moving in case they would seize up. It is only at this stage that I felt the pins and needles.I never really noticed the other classic symptoms, so It is good to learn from other people's experiences.. What helped me deal with this was knowing what was wrong and addressing the possible solutions. like taking yoga classes ,going for long walks and sticking to a health diet. The symptoms abated somewhat and so far those symptoms have disappeared. The only feeling close to a panic attack I get now is when I 'm sitting gridlocked in a traffic jam and feel I'm stuck or out of petrol. I need to take deep breaths and concentrate on something else to reduce the feelings of anxiety. Otherwise all is well. - in my case counselling nor medication wasn't used so it proves that the feelings can disappear of their own accord with some practical help. I hope my experience is useful..DODGE

Anonymous  Posted: 22/07/2008 10:23

Shelly, it sounds like you're going in the right direction and just need more time and maybe more frequent counseling sessions. Just a note on St Johns Wort - it actually is medication and needs to be perscribed by a GP here just like any other anti-anxiety med.

Shelly  Posted: 21/07/2008 19:19

Hi I regularly get panic attacks at night coupled with chronic insomnia and my doctor put me on Prozac which sent me crazy altogether. I went off it and went to a new doctor who put me on Buspar which I've just started taking. I'm off caffine, alcohol my diet is good and I excercise regularly. I'm also seeing a counsellor once a week but after a month I don't feel any better. Is anxiety something you live with forever? Meditation has helped somewhat. Does anyone have any suggestions. I've been thinking about taking st Johns Wort as I don't like taking medication anyway. Help!

recovered  Posted: 21/07/2008 11:53

In reply to geraldine (WZR57592) Posted: 23/01/2007 00:19. Sorry about the very long delay. I hope you are still on the forum. If you want to find out more about Dr Claire Weekes who showed me the way to complete recovery you can email me at david.recovered@gmail.com. I am hoping contact details such as these are allowed on the forum.

Anonymous  Posted: 18/07/2008 23:20

the other night i had a very bad panic attack. i screamed and my husband had to come to me. i was terrified, i was crying as i couldnt breath. my bedroom seemed to be coming towards me. squashing me. i have suffered with this problem a long time now but have not had this in a long long time. i ended up being so sick my kids didn't know what was happening to me. i was so scared. panic attacks are not a joke, they are not in anyone's head. i suffer with depression and i am on medication, but the other night was so frightening.

Anonymous  Posted: 20/06/2007 13:35

Recently i have been getting sensations in my head/mind. Its as if people around or on radio are suddenly speaking louder and more concentrated. my GP thinks it may me minor panic/anxiety attacks and it has reassured me as i was very worried & thought of altzheimers (father had it) or brain tuomors etc. I retired last year and I have got involved in working for other people and I may have taken on too much

Leah  Posted: 12/03/2007 12:03

I suffer dreadfully with agoraphobia, panic attacks and separation anxiety and have done for many years now.It's in my family so what chance did I have?!I didn't realise there were so many others who also suffer.I have been in counselling for about 3 years (my 4th or 5th therapist).I still feel like Im in muddy waters as to how to handle it though.Im trying yoga and more alternative approaches so Im really hoping this helps.

help  Posted: 05/03/2007 18:07

i dont really know the symtoms of panic attacks but i have a problem with dealing with people who argue with me or if i have to speak in public especially at meetings i get an awful shake all over voice and body i cant get rid off i use to have it the whole time if i was in a put i'd have to drink out of glass a bit before i'd lift it but since i met my boyfriend it's gone and only comes back when i have to speak in public meetings whether they are big ones or small

lisa  Posted: 27/02/2007 22:03

thanks niamh and geraldine. that book sounds really good . im actually guna buy it tomorro! well i told my mam about it so at least she will be able to help me with it too. ive actually found this website really interesting and it really helps me to know that i am not alone

Niamh  Posted: 26/02/2007 19:59

I agree totally with Geraldine I've never read that book but I've heard great things about it. If you nip it in the bud before it's gets worse it'l be way easier to deal with. I just got the number of my therapist from the local paper. There was quite a few actually. I just googled psychotherapist in Dublin 15 area and loads came up so try that...

geraldine (WZR57592)  Posted: 26/02/2007 14:24

lisa, was just reading your messages, and i too have experienced anxiety in my lif. i would recommend a book called When Panic Attacks by Aine Turbidy, it has a cd that comes with it, and it is a fab book. it includes self help exercises as well as practical information, you can take it with you anywhere. you can get it in any good book store. it helped me alot through the years and gets you into practising the exercises and also makes you aware that you "Can " get over this difficult time by changing your perspective on things happening in your life. I also had some counselling with a wonderful psychotherapist who talked me through a lot of my problems and helped me overcome them. Lisa go and make the call today as i feel the longer you leave it the anxiety escalates through feelings of fear and dread. you are not a freak or anything like that, you are perfectly normal so don't even think anything like that you just need reassurance from a professional and that will help you move on. get the book anyway and try and do some of the exercises ilustrated and you will feel much better. good luck

lisa  Posted: 24/02/2007 00:28

niamh , can i ask you who you go to or how did you find someone

Niamh  Posted: 23/02/2007 16:56

Don't worry it's so common really. Everyone goes through a crisis in their lives, whether it's depression, anxiety etc You have to be brave and face it head on coz your not doing yourself any favours shying away from it. The likely hood is that it won't go away itself. If you meet an unsympathetic doctor just go to another one, one who has experience dealing with people who suffer from anxiety. When your ringing for a counsellor ask if they specialise in the area of anxiety. The minute you start to talk to someone who understands I guarantee you'l start to feel better. You should tell your parents anxirty can be passed on so they may have experienced it at some stage or maybe their parents may have. I'm changing my counsellor at the moment to a physchotherapist to see where that leads me, everything will happen when your ready but don't leave it too long!!

lisa  Posted: 23/02/2007 13:04

thanks so much niamh , your comments are really helpful and interesting. it was blood diamond that i went to see. iv been feeling ok for the past week or two but lastnight i felt very anxious and it was not good at all . to be honest i havent done anything about it yet. its kinda like im embarassed to go to the doctor or something and i just keep puting it off but i dont wanna have anxiety attacks when im in australia so i really wanna get it sorted . i got a number from a physcologist in my area but i coudnt get through and then i just never got back to her .i just dont know where to begin looking for people and iv searched on the net but theres just not many therapists in my area(dublin 15). what is homopathy, iv heard it helps anxiety . another reason why im scared to go to the doctor is if i tell him my symtoms and them he tells me that there is nothing wrong with me or that i have something that cant be cured!

Niamh (FNI51267)  Posted: 15/02/2007 16:07

Lisa, I've had the shakes in the cinema before, anxiety is a very much an adreline stimulated condition and the whole big screen dark room is designed to stimulate the senses. It would be interesting to know what kind of film it was, thriller, comedy, horror. But also sugar affects anxiety greatly so if you were eating popcorn (which is actually sugar based) and drinking fizzy drinks as well I'd be surprised if you weren't shakey after that! Especially coke coz the caffeine content in it and cinema drinks are nearly 3 time the size of a normal glass that u'd pour yourself at home! Be sure to write your experience in your journel so you've references for your therapist. It's all about listening to your body so you can learn what's causing thesse attacks...

dodge  Posted: 15/02/2007 11:02

I had panic attacks before I realised what they were. I lost my mother to alzheimers and had a lot f other family issues at the time.but symptoms didn't manifest themselves until much later possibly a year or two. Even when I visited the gp i wasn't every told that was what I had only that I should possibly use psychotherapy. The word panic attacks was never used. Perhaps if I knew what the condition was, and that it was a likely occurrence in my particular case, I might have dealt with the symptoms better. Ignorance of your condition can generate more anxiety and culminate in further attacks.The last resort offered was medication of a mild form but as I knew what triggered these attacks, and with a little help from explanations on the net, I slowly came to terms with the condition, dealt with the symptoms and thankfully no longer experience them. If I do experience anything that resembles an attack, I can usually deal with this and possibly source the reason for it assuming I have no other ongoing physical complaints.

lisa  Posted: 01/02/2007 14:37

thanks niamh . this week has been the worst for me because i told my boyfriend and im constantly worrying that he is going to think im weird and then break up with me . iv decided that im going to go to a physcoligist and see how i feel about that . i just cant stand the feeling anymore . the other night i was in the cinema with my friend and i just started shaking for no aparent reason and then i kept thinking what happens if i go to the doctor and they cant help me and im left like this forever which causes me to panic even more

Niamh  Posted: 31/01/2007 18:56

The doctor put me on mild anti depressants, the reason they do this is because when your in good form stress is much easier to deal with. My anxiety was caused by stress. I wasn't happy where I was living, my relationship with my boyfriend was causing me stress nothing major but loads of little things combined started an avalenge and it all got too much. I felt like I was having a nervous breakdown. I didn't feel safe anywhere, I was terrified I'd have a panic attack when I was in work. I eventually rang in sick for a week telling them I'd food poisoning cause I was too embarrassed to tell them the truth. I stayed in bed for the whole week only getting out to have some reiki and a massage done to help me relax. I went to the doctor and I immediately felt better after starting to take the anti depressants. It wasn't the anti depressants I just felt better cause I was taking positive steps for recovery. I saw a counsellor who was very positive and went through meditation exercises with me to help me learn how to relax. I also bought a yoga dvd which I find brillant, I still do it now. It totally grounds me when I feel like I'm becoming anxious again. Anxiety is a part of everyone's life though. Every person to some extent experiences anxiety from day to day so when you ask if I'm recovered, I'm no longer afraid of it, I've accepted it and I'm able to keep it under control because I understand it. It took me about 6 months in total to get to where I am now but you probably haven't let yourself get as bad as I got. The anti depressants didn't do much for me I didin't think. I was on them for 3 months and had mild withdrawel for about a week after coming off them. They are like taking a pain killer because you get head aches from eating cheese when really you should stop eating cheese because that's what's causing the problem. They can give you a bit of support, everyone's different so you have to decide for yourself if they're right for you. I hope that answers your question. I'm online alot so I'l try to give you as much information as I can to help you.

lisa  Posted: 31/01/2007 12:02

thanks so much niamh. is it anxiety that you suffer from . have you been on medication for it and do you feel recovered

Niamh  Posted: 31/01/2007 02:20

To Lisa ya poor thing it definately sounds like anxiety, the feeling of discomfort you just can't put your finger on. I started feeling anxious for the first time around my leaving cert aswell. I'd recommend a counsellor before going to the doctor as doctors are 2 quick to put you on anti depressants which are only a short term solution and don't address the real problem. Look in your local paper for a counsellor's name. Counsellor's are usually quite expensive around 50 euro per visit. Explain your situation, they may do you a deal or your parents may help you out. 'Aware' is a group that hold meetings where you just show up and make a donation, I don't know if you'd be that comfortable in front of people if you've only told your boyfriend. I understand though, I felt embarrased like no one would understand. Maybe if you ask people on this site if anyone knows of some one good in the area where you live. If it's any consolation though I went to Australia and I was worried about feeling anxious so far away from home. The only time I felt anxious though was when I arrived coz my body was so tired from the flight and jet lagged. Otherwise I had the best year of my life. It's completely different over there. It's not like dreary Ireland the sun and the whole outdoor culture makes you feel so good. And if you do feel like you ever want to come home it's only really a day away once you get on the plane. There's usually specific things that trigger anxiety though so if you work them out with a counsellor before you go you can try to avoid them. The leaving Cert is a major STRESS for anyone though so that may be the first thing you start avoiding. Ask yourself is there anything on your mind at the moment. Then there's all the other things that might stimulate an episode caffeine, alcohol, drugs, spicy food. Your counsellor will probably get you to keep a brief diary from day to day to try and find out is there any pattern in the way your feeling. This would be helpful for you to start straight away to speed up your recovery. Include what you've eaten, if you felt run down, if you had good interactions between friends and your boyfriend that day. If your happy where your living, If work or college was stressful, if your falling behind etc. There's also loads of self help books out for anxiety if you read some of the previous articles on this site they mention a few. I know I'm probably pointing out the obvious but I hope it helps and I'm sure you'll get tons of more replies to your letter. Just remember your not alone!

ancaman  Posted: 30/01/2007 22:00

does anyone know of therapists who actually come to a persons home and works with the person who cannot go to far outside their own home environment.

lisa  Posted: 30/01/2007 17:58

hi. just before my leaving cert almost 2 years ago , i was babysitting and im convinced i had a panic attack . i felt like i was going insane or something . after a while i felt ok but the next day . i had these weird effects. i just had weird feelings or something , its so hard to explain! i have never told anybody till last weekend when i told my boyfriend . i just was always afraid that people would think im physco. i didnt know what it was , for a while i thought i was depressed or something but i realised i did not have the symtoms of depression as i love my family and life and i have never felt suicidal. i just often feel scarec of being scared and scared to go places. its so weird. im going to australia this summer and im just really scared that il panic or feel likethis . im just so sick of it . its like i can never feel at ease. i want to go to a doctor but i have no idea where to even start looking. i have only told my boyfriend and he supports me. can anybody help. im only 20 and i dont want to feel like this forever

geraldine (WZR57592)  Posted: 23/01/2007 00:19

hi recovered, i would love to hear about the Clair weekes approach you used to get better from your panic attacks, where would i find out about it and is it a book or group or therapist you attend. I would appreciate if you could let me no many thanks.

Ann  Posted: 30/12/2006 22:39

Dorothee, Thats very interesting research in your last posting. Certainly merits a discussion group of its own. Thanks for posting that.

Dorothee (YAO52473)  Posted: 24/12/2006 00:02

Panick attacks can be caused by pesticides, in my case by an insecticide, parathione. Why does irishhealth not have an environmental section? Articles like the below should regularly posted Pollution linked to brain disease. By Jessica Mangold. The Metro, UK - 16 August, 2004. A ‘DEVIL'S brew of environmental change' was blamed yesterday for a dramatic increase in deaths from brain disease. The number of people killed by dementia in Britain has trebled in the past 20 years, with a daily exposure to environmental pollutants - such as pesticides and food preservatives - linked to the rise. In the late 1970s, there were 3,000 deaths a year from conditions such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and motor neurone disease. By the late 1990s, there were 10,000 such deaths among men and women in England and Wales , researchers said. Prof Colin Pritchard, who led the study by Bournemouth and Southampton universities, said: `You have got a devil's brew of environmental change and it is beginning to show signs in the patterns of these diseases and the numbers of deaths. We are not taking pol­lution seriously enough. People should stop putting their heads in the sand.' Scientists claim the daily exposure to pollutants, domestic and industrial chemicals, lies at the heart of an increase in neurological diseases recorded throughout Western countries. The study places England and Wales fifth behind the Netherlands , Italy , Spain and the US for the biggest over­all increase in deaths between 1979 and 1997. Prof Pritchard told the journal Public Health: `The multiple use of chemicals in our home and in our food is part of our everyday society, but what the chemical industry does not test is the interaction between several chemicals being used at once. This increase in deaths has to be environmental.' ...and don't live by a major road LIVING near a busy road is as harmful to your health as having a major illness, researchers said yesterday. It can knock more than two years off your life expectancy since busier roads mean greater pollution. However, the impact on health is not on the lungs, with conditions such as asthma, but the heart. Canadian researchers found that a 50-year-old living within 50m of a major highway or 100m of a busy road had the same mortality rate as a 52-year-old living in a quieter area. Lead researcher Michael Jerrett told the American Journal of Epidemiology that people with a heart condition ought to think twice about living near high-traffic areas. British studies back up the findings. Women in rural west Somerset live 84 years on average compared with 76 years in Manchester , according to official statistics.

Alice  Posted: 15/12/2006 10:08

Yoga, meditation and learning coping strategies definiely help. I don't think 2 minutes on a sunbed, unless you are very fair skinned is going to do much harm tho', in the general scheme of things. Good point on drugs and drink tho - yoiu can become addicted to one and dependant on the other.

out of the fryingpan  Posted: 14/12/2006 23:11

Don't do sunbed, worked with girl who got skin cancer from it. Get a proper lightbox, it's good for depression. I've gotten better doing yoga, reading brill book, The power of Now by eckhart tolle. and i've done a session of cognitive therapy. It is definitely all in the mind and you can change your thoughts which can make you sick. Also eat good organic pure food, Cannibis is stupid. I worked with 'plonks' in restaurant who smoked it and most of them went onto stronger stuff. We're a mental society who can't function without drink and drugs. Boring. glad i've been there and done it.

Niamh  Posted: 11/12/2006 19:58

This is for Bob_hope firstly I think that you've posted your message on the wrong web page. Secondly I would hope that no1 who reads it would be silly enough to go out and try Cannabis as a cure for there anxiety. I don't know if you suffer from anxiety yourself but by the sounds of it your using cannabis as a sedative so you might as well be taking medication. There's a few things you mightn't know about Canabis out of every illegal drug Cannabis is proven to have the worst effect on your neurological patterns especially in the long term. It is an addictive drug which can cause depression, anxiety and paranoia at the very least. At worst it can bring out psychosis and schcizophrenia in people who otherwise may never have an episode. When I smoke I feel terrible, it makes me feel really anxious, I know a few people that feel like that who wouldn't otherwise suffer from anxiety. I know alcohol is a drug aswell but I wouldn't recommend either to help treat anxiety!

bob_hope  Posted: 09/12/2006 13:12

In a country where a dangerously high proportion of the population consume way too much alcohol, it should come as no surprise whatsoever when it is found that panic/anxiety disorders are on the increase... Forget prescription drugs, etc. The government should legalize cannabis so mature responsible adults can enjoy it in the comfort of their own homes... :o) I don’t think there’s any need to mention the extremely relaxing affect of cannabis use... There is no doubt that excessive alcohol or cannabis use can lead to mild to severe mental disorders but the problem with alcohol is that many people simply cannot control their consumption. The vast majority of smokers reach satiety after only a small quantity of cannabis. In a country where an 18 year old can legally buy a large bottle of concentrated alcohol over the counter, enough to knock out a small elephant in fact, in my opinion, it is a disgrace that responsible adults have to go to dodgy dealers who possibly also sell hard drugs in order to buy enough for a few joints... When will the government see sense, alcohol wasn’t prohibited in the US in the early 20th century without just cause, although Americans are already mad enough... In my opinion it is astonishing that so many governments across the world can remain so ignorant and disregard the abundance of potential medical applications of cannabis...

Niamh  Posted: 29/11/2006 14:38

In my experience and as a sufferer myself I believe anxiety to be another arm of depression. For me anyway when I'm happy and content with life my anxiety doesn't bother me at all. When I'm stressed out or hungover or the days are just too dark my anxiety starts creeping back in. I'l think I'm fine coz I wouldn't be depressed but it's only in hindsight that I can look back and see that I wasn't happy. The thing I try to remember is happiness is a hormone (serotonin) and every1s body has the ability to make it naturally. Maybe we're in a place in our lives where it's not. This could be because we're exhausting our bodies 2 much or maybe we're just not doing fun things anymore. I believe this to be a huge key in recovering. I hadn't a shred of fun in me when I was going through my anxiety. It was like I had forgotton how to enjoy myself. It took me a long time to come to this phase of recovery but I hope never to return. It doesn't happen over night but if you approach it like "How can I make myself happier" It's immediately more positive than "How can I get rid of this anxiety." I'm not a counsellor but the obvious thing for me was to address was I happy in: my relationship, my living arrangements, my job, my relationships with my friends. I had no hobby except for the gym which I found out recently can be more of a hindrance than help. It's not a hobby and can actually end up lowering sertonin levels rather than raising them if not approached in the right positive frame of mind. "I have to change my body shape" implying your body isn't good enough is not a positive attitude. I think exercise is very important but I think a good brisk walk in the fresh air or a swim would be much better than drilling yourself on a threadmill. Diet also has a huge part to play in hormone production or lack of. Also in energy levels and appearance, all things that make us feel better about ourselves. Enough sleep and also relaxation time. Spend more time with your friends, if you don't have the time make it. That's the attitude that's probably got you to this anxious state "I don't have the time to enjoy myself" Find out what makes you happy and start doing it and slowly you'l learn how to enjoy yourself again. Your serotonin levels will rise and your anxiety ones will fall I promise!

recovered  Posted: 29/11/2006 00:29

I suffered with panic attacks from 1986 to 1988. Fortunately within weeks I saw an occupational therapist and was given the right help through the teachings of Dr Claire Weekes ( who I see mentioned in other messages in this forum.) Unfortunately since passing away in 1990 her teachings have been split up so that the answers the sufferer is looking for are not in any one book she wrote. Because of my years of suffering, eventual recovery and through helping others over the last 18 years I came to realise that the anxiety state is no more than a gigantic bluff and the way to recovery is to understand the bluff for what it is, and be shown how to outbluff the bluff itself. You are always in the middle of your suffering, trying to think of away of getting out of it.That is why a complete explanation of your symptoms must come first, otherwise you will always fear that which you do not understand, and it is this fear, that will keep all of the other fears alive. Also when you are explained to, for the first time you will be able to look on at yourself and start to see the bluff for what it really is. Just a bluff and no more than that. If any sufferer would like hear more from me,please respond. Best wishes to you all.

Anonymous  Posted: 25/11/2006 16:07

RECOVERED, Would you share how you recovered?

recovered  Posted: 23/11/2006 09:46

This is my first visit to this website.Indeed this is the first time I have posted a message.I suffered from panic attacks for two and a quarter years.However, I have been completely recovered for the last eighteen and a half years and will never go back into that state ever again. It is now my personal opinion that the only person who was ever going to help me was someone who had themselves suffered, and through their own recovery had come to understand the anxiety state for what it really is.I have not come on this website to criticise any available treatments,rather to let sufferers know it is possible(with the right help)to recover and stay recovered. I don't want to turn this into some form of advertising.However, I will only post further information if asked.

Niamh  Posted: 04/11/2006 12:55

Robert, I think the initial attack starts the roller coaster, kind of like a domino effect. You may not have had one for ages and then something triggers one. An attack puts alot of strain on your body and you need time to recover. This time is when your most likely to have a repeat episode as your on edge after the last attack. The key to stopping them is to know yourself and what triggers them. These attacks don't just happen out of the blue, they are usually stress indused. Try to avoid the things that make you feel anxious and if you can't, you have to find a balance, for every stressful situation you put your body through you have to give it time to rest and relax. If the tablets work for you that's good, at least you know you've something to fall back on and that's reassuring. I'd definately recommend counselling though to try to get to the route of the problem and then you can take the steps of coming off the medication with a professional support. I wish you the best of luck!

helen  Posted: 04/11/2006 09:01

Niamh i do find the weather and light affects me so i might try your sunbed tip, thank you! I knew nothing about any of this a few months ago and i'm just amazed at the effect these things have on your life. Its the anxiety which i find the hardest to cope with, i get so anxious that i bring on a panic attack. The irony is that i am anxious about having a panic attack, my main fear is my health and sometimes the slightest sensation in my head leads to what i can only describe as sheer terror. I am reading up on this and definately my understanding is helping me cope and i know i am getting better and i just have to keep reminding myself of this the whole time. Sometimes i know i feel sorry for myself which doesn't help at all cause my moods certainly affect me. Also i find this site a great help, i have never written like this before but i find knowing i am not alone in feeling this way such a help so thanks so much niamh and good luck to everyone.

Robert (robertob)  Posted: 03/11/2006 17:01

I got my first panic/ anxiety attack while on holidays in Spain 5 years ago. a doctor there gave me valium to releive the symtons however after that fisrt attack the ataacks happened frequently to me it got to a stage i wasnt able to travel anywhere by plane having been a seasoned traveller. also i coudnt go anywhere there was a lot of people around. i was prescribed Seroxat by the gp but the side effects were unbearable I went to another doctor he gave me xanax which were great in reliveing the symtoms but the attacks were always recurring. a freind told me to take cipramil tabs and have been taking these for the last 3 years i am now ok but wouild like to find a way of getting off these. anybody any ideas ?

Alice  Posted: 03/11/2006 09:20

I'm so glad somebody mentioned this Niamh. Those grey Winter days make me feel very low after a long spell of them too and I have been using the short spells on the sunbed as a remedy for years and years. As you day not enough to cause skin damage but enough to give me a great boost.

christina (WOM51858)  Posted: 02/11/2006 21:51

Just wondering if anybody has tried NLP for anxiety and anxiety attacks.

Niamh  Posted: 02/11/2006 01:10

Helen, Do you find the weather affects you? If there's a week or more of grey days I begin to feel low. It's horrible as I go from feeling completely normal to feeling lost inside my own head and anxious. I've decided to try some light therapy as recommended by many people from this particular sight. I've been taking 2 minute sessions on the sunbed twice a week. Not enough to give me a tan or anything so it wouldn't be damaging my skin. It's early days but I find they give me a boost and the chemicals released through UV light boost your immune system and certain hormone which are linked to depression and anxiety. U can also buy a light box which wouldn't be as intense but u need to sit in front of them for 20mins a day i think they cost about 50-60 euro the sunbed just suits me as there is 1 in my gym. I hope ur feeling better soon. I know what it's like u become so desperate to get well u'l try anything!

helen  Posted: 29/10/2006 17:18

hello again, have been going to counsellor, homeopath and yoga for the past few weeks and everything seemed to be going great i was really positeve and felt like i was really getting a handle on things. Then all of a sudden in the past few days i seem to have gone backwards, am very anxious and panicky, then i got very down because i felt like i was losing the battle then of course all my old physical symptoms started to manifest themselves, pins and needles, headaches, diarrahea etc. Am gutted cant believe i am back to this. Please tell me this is par for the course and i will someday get my old life back. Am so tired of being scared of everything and ahving this terrible feeling of gloom.

Anonymous  Posted: 20/10/2006 13:18

Has anyone ever tried NLP?

Liv  Posted: 20/10/2006 11:12

Hi Helen, The way homeopathy works is that they give you a remedy specifically for you, of course you may end up getting one of the above remedies but what your homeopath will do is sit down with you and have a full indepth conversation getting your full life history, Homeopathy works on the concept of emotional health, mental health and physical health. So the physical health is the panic attacks themselves, the emotional state is derived from what you tell your homeopath etc. As I say there are zero side affects from homeopathic remedies as they are primarily an energy based remedy born out of the belief that we all have the core capacity to ultimately heal ourselves. So what the remedy does then is it gives you the kick start so that your own immune system/ healing capacity can take over and empowers you to heal yourself. Homeopathic remedies derive from the principle of like cures like. Socrates believed there were two forms of healing 1) the law of like curing like (homeopathy) and 2) the law of opposites (allapathy - modern medicine). Hahnemann the founder of homeopathy was a medical doctor in the ..1700's I believe and believed that we should be treating the whole person and not the disease itself also believing that there should be gentle effective ways to heal with zero side effects so he started out his investigations and now there are over 3000 proven homeopathic remedies. As I say you will notice the difference over the weeks after seeing your homeopath and of course you may have a number of visits to your homeopath in conjunction with your counsellor, at the end of the day you have all the tools to heal yourself from within however having help and guidance along the way is at times needed. Best of luck Helen and I'm sure you'll be fearless and flying it in no time.

Helen  Posted: 19/10/2006 23:02

Hi Liv, thanks for the info. Have made appointment for next week with a lady whose name i got off the counsellor i have been seeing. Do you mind if i ask you if you know what remedy your homeopathist gave you as my counsellor mentioned pulsatilla???? but someone else has mentioned argent???? (both probably spelt wrong) as being more effective for anticapatory anxiety which is what i suffer from. Or do you think i should just ignore both and start with a clean blank slate with this woman? Never used to be such a worry wart but seemto obsess about every little thing nowadays but starting to recognise it now and i think dealing with it a bit better. Many thanks!

Liv  Posted: 19/10/2006 16:16

Hi Helen, I'm delighted someone has eventually recommended a homeopath. I've suffered with panic attacks, and jees when I think of how the initial doctors fobbed me off with beta blockers etc. From studying varying forms of medicine in recent years the attack itself isn't the entire issue it's what is behind the attack, and like most of us its either work / relationships etc. Having become truthful with myself that own fears are my main source of these attacks I've been dealing with them and working through them and of course this takes time and doesn't happen over night. I also went to a homeopath when I felt I needed a new route to help me along the way. I must say the entire experience of visiting a homeopath alone is comforting, you sit down and have over an hour long interview with your homeopath and at the end they give you a remedy of which has zero side effects and I can personally say has kept my attacks at bay especially I'm amazed in these last few weeks where I've moved house and just handed in my notice to take a leap of faith into the unknown, so even though I know I'm still working through some remaining issues with fear thanks to my homeopathic remedy I'm free from the horrific experiences of the attacks themselves. Also I definitely recommend some gently yoga breathing and walks in peaceful fresh air. Best of luck

Helen  Posted: 17/10/2006 19:42

Hello girls, thanks a million for your support. Have seen counsellor and am certainly feeling better but i know i have a way to go yet. Am wondering if anyone knows much about homeopathy as the lady i'm seeing has recommended i get in touch with one. Have also started yoga so hopefully it will all come together. Thanks again and take care!

breda (LVB53297)  Posted: 11/10/2006 20:18

Hi Helen. Dont despair, counselling is the best way of helping yourself to deal with panic attacks - speaking from experience- it takes time but will work. Make sure that you are comfortable with your therapist, I have found that therapists trained in the Gestalt therapy are the best because they work with people in a very practical way. Anti-anxiety medication is fine but only in the short term, talking through your problems/issues with a therapist is the best way in the long term. B

Niamh  Posted: 10/10/2006 00:26

Helen, I think relaxation is a great therapy for people that feel anxious (obviously) A holiday will give your adrenal glands a break, which become exhausted when your on edge all the time. The feeling I get when I'm anxious is that anything bad cud happen, I don't know if you've read up but this is called anticipation anxiety, your lucky your going with your husband, as it is reassuring when your with someone who you feel safe with. Different situations even down to what you eat and drink can have an effect on your anxiety. The longer you have it the more aware you'l become and the better you'l deal with them. A few things that make me feel bad are stimulants such as caffeine, some alcohol, chilli, sugar on an empty stomach, they all stimulate the body to release adrenaline which anxious people have too much of already! I know I'm raving on a bit but if you know all this already hopefully someone else can read it and it'l help them. I hope you enjoy your holiday!

Helen  Posted: 08/10/2006 18:55

Thanks so much for your responses it makes it seem not so bad when i think i am not alone! Had my first counselling session think it went well, am going back next week and am practising breathing, relaxation etc. Most of the time i feel very confident that i will beat this but i have some days when i feel like this will never go away and it is taking over my life and i just feel so sorry for myself!!! Its like there's a constant voice in my head and i cant switch it off and its filling me with doubt and fear. Am going on a holiday shortly that my husband booked for us and am hoping to have a better handle on it by then cause i've gone from someone who would be dying to go to someone who is now afraid that she will be afraid!!! Thanks again for replies, makes it a lot easier.

Niamh  Posted: 07/10/2006 00:26

Helen, It's a terrible feeling, it's quite common to focus your nervous energy on bad things that can happen especially healthwise. I had a panick attack 1 night convincing myself I was getting hemmoroids, (I wasn't) I had myself brought through the whole operation and everything! I find distraction is a great thing to interrupt those kind of thoughts,I know its easier said than done but u have to be aware that these thoughts are coming from your anxiety and not to let urself get carried away with them. Counselling will definately help and don't be afraid to change counsellors if they're not right for you, good luck!

moll  Posted: 05/10/2006 20:32

Having also suffered severe anxiety/panic attacks I used the book Self Help for your Nerves and counselling - stick at it. You have to work hard at it and don't give up.It will come right with time and a changed attitude. Good luck with it.

Helen  Posted: 05/10/2006 16:42

Have recently started getting anxiety attacks, started with an overwhelming fear regarding my health, was convinced something terrible was going to happen. Now i'm afraid of feeling this way so it seems i'm afraid of being afraid! This started after an unsuccessful attempt at ivf. Am about to start counselling and am hoping that will help.

Anonymous  Posted: 05/10/2006 13:01

I suffered from panic attacks after the sudden death of a family member. They took over my life for a good year. At the time my GP prescribed me beta blockers and Xanax. They eventually went away. Last year after giving birth to my second child I started sufering from them again. I believe that they are linked aswell to post natal depression which I believe I had mildly. My GP wanted to prescribe meds to treat both but I wanted to avoid the meds route. My husband bought me a brilliant book with explained them and different reasons why they occured. I also attended physotheraphy which I found great. They are gone now and even if I feel one coming one I 'talk to it', and it eases. I know this sounds weird but it was one of the recommendations in the book and it works. Self-help and diet are a great cure in my personal opinion.

Dots  Posted: 05/10/2006 10:10

I am in my mid thirties and I began to suffer panic attacks a couple of years ago. For a while I was crippled with them and was convinced i was seriously ill or going mad. i even ended up in hospital at one stage. It was a very unpleasant time (not least for my wife). I did some counselling sessions and read Aine Tubridy's excellent book 'When Panic Attacks'. This book opened my eyes to the condition and gave me information and answers when I was searching for them. I highly recomennd it to anyone who has Panic/anxiety attacks. I now realise that my attacks were linked to work/stress and that I'm probably susceptible to attacks if i let myself be. I ws also drinking a bit too much then as well (hangovers are not good for the nervous system/psyche) . i've learned to chill out about work and let the little things go. One person in particular in work who was a 'psychological bully' i just don't let get to me any more (it took a while but i got there). I haven't had an attack for a while now but even if I think about those days i still get a feeling of fear in my stomach. I've since also had my first baby and I don't have time to focus on my worries and fears (I'm too busy worrying about him! but that's nicer). For those sufferers out there, this message. There are times when you feel as if you are losing your mind or will die and there are times when you think you will never be ok again or that you will stuck in the bad place all your life....you won't! It does get better. One last thing, different things work for different people but i found comfort in prayer and the tranquility of mass in some difficult times. I'm not a regular mass goer and wasn't raised in a religious household. I'm not saying it's everybody's cup of tea but it helped me.

Louie  Posted: 05/10/2006 09:29

I have suffered from panic / anxiety attacks for the last 5 years. I use to have several of them a day some would wake me at night. That feeling like you were going to die is something I will never forget. I was on medication for some time which I found helpful and also attended a psychotherapist for a year which helped release a lot of the anxiety and understand myself more. Thankfully over the past year these attacks have gradually eased and only occasionally happen. I have learned to deal with them now with the help of a very understanding partner who is supportive and has a very calming and reassuring effect on me during any of my attacks and with this I have learned to tell myself I can control them and not let them take over my life again. It helps to know you are not the only person suffering from these attacks. Good Luck.

Gerald (ESF50348)  Posted: 05/10/2006 02:20

Fuzz, Herbals that may be of assistance. St Johns Wort + Vitamin B12 complex. My wife suffered from p/a for years, unbeknown to me, except for the phoney excuses for not leaving the house. Eventually got help through a counsellor, and above herbals. Books by Dr Claire Weekes also great help. Herbals benefit over convention meds is no lousy side effects. Hope this is of some help. Gerald

hopeful  Posted: 01/10/2006 22:52

I suffer from social anxiety disorder 'chronic blushing' on seroxat 1 year, helping me to relax but I do not want to stay on them forever. I am in my 40s and female. This problem has been with me since I was a child. it is awful awful awful any help please please please

buster  Posted: 30/09/2006 08:23

i have suffered anxiety and pannick attacks now for ten years ,tried tablets [lexapro]for a year when i stoped they came back i also have done counciling and hypnosis , bio energy read many books and still feeel agraphobic on regular intervils i took manesium as i was told it would help and still no joy can any body help my life is not my own any more.

rosie (LLC23209)  Posted: 22/09/2006 19:18

Are you seeing your GP? They could recommend somebody for you.

fuzz  Posted: 21/09/2006 23:39

what would be the difference between panic and anxiety attacks? i dunno, it seems to me im having these panicky anxious attacks...??:) well, yes, i do suffer from them... i was doing counselling, and then was taking several different medications (unwanted side effects).. so i have been fine for several years. but receintly, i started having them again, even more fierceful than before... it seems i forgot all what i learned on these breathing workshops and years of yoga and counselling... have i? ill need counselling again... any suggestions what doctor to see? any herbal remedies that you found helpful? i was using rescue, bach flower remedy. it used to be helpful, but not so much lately..

dubgirl  Posted: 20/09/2006 11:30

I suffered with panic attacks for about a year, and found although they were triggered by emotions and stress, taking beta blockers as prescribed by my very understanding GP helped to stop the effects of the palpitations and blood racing, which helped me stay in control, fight the panic, and feel more confident. I did this with therapy, and I am no longer on them (+ no longer in therapy) and would recommend medication to anybody.

Anonymous  Posted: 20/09/2006 10:58

I've suffered from panic attacks for around 17 years now. For many years, I didn't know what it was that was happening to me. Unfortunately, I started to slip into a pattern of avoidance behaviour (avoiding getting into situations where I thought I might get an attack), which started to affect my life. A few years ago, I started getting counselling and it helped. I wanted to avoid medication at all costs, and have managed to do just that, thankfully. The book 'When Panic Attacks' by Dr. Aine Tubridy has proved very useful, and I also went to one session with Dr. Tubridy herself, which was well worthwhile. My tai chi instructor also held a breathing workshop, which I attended, and learning the art of diaphragmatic breathing has been one of the most powerful weapons in my arsenal against the attacks. I'm still not entirely over the attacks, but one thing to remember is that, although you can't strictly speaking cure panic attacks, you can control them, and that's what I've learned to do. I'm now doing a lot of things that I had been avoiding (e.g. going to the cinema) although I still haven't managed to work up the courage to go abroad for a number of years (a bit restrictive when you live on a small island, but I'm working on it!) So Leah (original poster), what I would say, for what it's worth, is that panic attacks aren't as serious as they seem when you're having them. They're a lot more common than you might realise, so you're not alone. My advice is not to slip into avoidance behaviour and not to start thinking that people will think less of you if they find out you suffer from panic attacks (I've told a number of friends in the last 18 months - previously I had kept it to myself, in typical male fashion - and they've all been very understanding and supportive). I hope that's of some help and I wish you well in overcoming the attacks.

Aoife (AoifeA)  Posted: 19/09/2006 16:33

I would like to recommend a book I've found very helpful: 'When Panic Attacks' by Aine Tubridy. Its very good on explaining what a panic attack is (useful to show people who don't understand!) and also on dealing with attacks. It includes an excellent CD with a sort of emergency kit for dealing with attacks and some good relaxation and breathing techniques. I've also found psychotherapy very helpful, as I would prefer not to use any kind of medication.

Ravadelia  Posted: 19/09/2006 15:28

JLo, I always suspected that my panic attacks were related to a thyroid condition (colloid cyst ,resulting in a right thyroidectomy.) Hard to try to convince Dr's, though.. I,too,refused to take anti-depressant meds. I also had occasional bouts of agoraphobia & like you, had to train myself to overcome it a little at a time..

JLo  Posted: 19/09/2006 10:45

i started gettin g panic attacks after having an operation to remove a cyst from my thyroid. i couldn'tt leave my parents house for ages without getting palpitations and worrying something bad was going to happen to me.i went to the doctor who suggested i take anti-depressants but i was worried i'd become addicted to them so decided against them. i then decided to leave the house gradually and started going for walks, trying to clam myself down and rationally explain my attacks to myself if i felt one coming on.i eventually moved to cork but had a terrible fear of trains but forced myself to get on them every fri and every sun and while i was uncomfortable the whole journey it did the trick and i dont suffer from them anymore.

borderfox  Posted: 16/09/2006 11:50

I have work related problems when it comes to anxiety/panic attacks. It was really destoying me until such time as I went to my GP and got him to prescribe xanax. Xanax does the trick - albeit that there is a downside. I've been on them a year and my consumption levels are slowly moving upwards. I know that there is only one real answer and that is a change of job - but trying to achieve this has not been straightforward. The mortgage has to be paid and I can't just go for any old job. But anyways, I can recommend xanax - if you can be responsible in taking it and try to use the bare minimum required to get you through.

Marie  Posted: 15/09/2006 10:31

i started having panic attacks and anxiety attacks when I was 19. 41 now. they affected my life a lot at the time. I was a college student. was also prescribed Ativan which was helpful but horrible withdrawal symptoms. what eventually helped me most was cogitive behavioural therapy and counselling. but drugs can be useful in the short term to keep you functioning if you feel overwhelmed so I think don't be afraid to use them with doctor/psychiatrist supervision along with counselling. over time I realised the panic attacks are not dangerous although alarming and overwhelming. think of them as your mind and body telling you to wake up, something's not right, you're under too much stress maybe, what are your relationships like, your job, your lifestyle, do you need to make changes, make an effort to live differently. eventually you will see them as a positive force for change albeit an uncomfortable one. yoga, relaxation techniques, breathing are all important. panic attacks will force you to examine yourself and that's ultimately a good thing and has been for me. good luck and don't worry - what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and panic attacks won't kill you!

Ravadelia  Posted: 14/09/2006 17:45

I found that being in a crowd, or hurried type of situation brought on a panic attack,especially while shopping or at a mall. Some attacks that occured shortly after eating ,I was able to determine were triggered by gas resulting from IBS. Meds for IBS & an occasional Diazepam helped me.

Tony  Posted: 14/09/2006 15:11

I suffered from panic attacks approximately 22 years ago. I went to the Doctor and he prescribed tablets(Ativan) for me. The tablets relieved the immediate symptons that caused my attacks and were very good for that paricular time. However, after using them for approximately one year I weaned myself off them by reducing the dose slowly ie 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 over a couple of weeks and learned to deal with the attacks without the need for medication. All that said, I can still get anxious at times but have no need to revert to medication. My wife who helped me through the situation, has recently had similar panick attacks due to the menopause and depression. After approximately 6 months she learned to deal with the attacks and is now very well and does not take any medication for these attacks. Time and patience will eventually overcome the symptoms and we are proof that you will come out the other side! Don't feel as you are the only one with these feelings as the more you talk about it you will find out that it a lot of people experience these attacks at various stages of their lives. Relax and God bless.

Bricriu  Posted: 14/09/2006 14:58

Get a book called 'Help for Your Nerves' (widely available). It's a great book, and offers practical and sensible advice for dealing with panic attacks; to follow the advice in the book, all you need is courage. It helped me rid myself of panic attacks.

amos  Posted: 14/09/2006 14:09

started to have panic attacks about 10 years ago - went to counselling and realised they were mainly work related - wrong person in wrong job (with some additional personal issues which I was not addressing) - changed jobs and attacks stopped. Every now and again if I get stressed they come back and I stop to figure out what is causing them and try to sort this out. Found light over the counter medication helpful for short term relief while getting to grips with the real issues but do not think medication is a good long term option - better to find out underlying cause and solve it - found counselling very good - it helps to talk frankly with someone who has no agenda other than to help you help yourself.

Lucius  Posted: 14/09/2006 12:50

I started to suffer from panic attacks and anxiety attacks over a year ago. I was being harrassed in work by two girls (i'm female too). I had to take 7 weeks off sick last year and refused to take tablets, I went to counselling and it helped. But now I'm starting to have attacks again and only went to my doctor yesterday who prescribed tablets. I really didn't want to take anything. I would advise you to get your boyfriend to go back to his GP straight away if he is getting worse. I would also suggest councelling as panic/anxiety attacks are usually caused by an underlying problem. He may know himself what it is but mightn't want to admit it to you. Get him to try a couple of sessions he will definitely find it benificial. Whatever you do don't let him bury his head in the sand over this, they'll get twice as bad if he does and they can seriously affect your life. Be as supportive as you can because there is nothing worse than feeling alone when you're like this or feeling like people don't understand what you're going through. I hope he gets better soon!!

Anonymous  Posted: 11/09/2006 11:00

Hi, my b'friend suffers v.badly with panic attacks. It first started bout 3 yrs ago. He went to his GP & was prescribed tablets and over the months has had the dose reduced and at the moment he is off the tablets. He was fine for a good few months but now he seems to be getting the attacks again. He tends to suffer attacks after a night out drinking, but no matter how heavy or light his night out was the attacks are getting worse. He won't go back to the GP as i think he is embarrassed about the whole thing and has that "male pride" thing going on! He hates the idea of taking the tablets as he has side effects from them too, even thou they help with his attacks. I really want to help him but have no idea what to do, i've suggested everything from a w'end away to a health farm, to doing a class together on some form of relaxation method that might help him. Anyone have suggestions that may help him apart from going back to the GP? All suggestions appreciated.

karen (kazzap)  Posted: 27/06/2006 16:16

i suffer from anxiety attacks as opposed to panic attacks. But believe me, you are not alone. They are nearly as common as house flies this weather! There are many different treatments available, it's just a matter of finding out which one is for you!

Leah  Posted: 27/06/2006 09:14

Does anyone else here suffer from panic attacks?What do you do to cope?

   
 
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