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An irregular heartbeat...

Several years ago I was sitting in my former surgery in Ballyfermot trying to explain the meaning of palpitations to a concerned middle-aged man. He was a car mechanic and had been experiencing occasional palpitations in recent months that were beginning to concern him. Everything was normal on physical examination and I was trying to explain to him the normal nature of his symptoms but I began to feel that I really wasn’t getting through to him.

Out of the blue we both heard a loud sound from a car backfiring on the street outside. We heard a loud bang followed in quick succession by a series of quick bangs before the car chugged away on its journey without further disturbance. I pointed my thumb over my shoulder and said: "that car engine is having palpitations". Without further explanation the middle-aged mechanic understood his condition by way of analogy with the irregular pumping of an internal combustion engine.

The human heart

Palpitations are a very common occurrence and everybody experiences them from time to time. Given the frequency with which the heart beats everyday of our lives it’s a wonder that we don’t experience palpitations more often. Just reflect on this calculation for a moment; if your resting heart beats approximately 4,000 beats per hour that amounts to 96,000 beats per day, which in turn amounts to 35,040,000 beats per year, which amounts to a final total of 2,628,000,000 beats in a lifespan of 75 years. You might like to play with this calculation by turning to our new "breaths and heartbeats" calculator, which is located at:

http://www.irishhealth.com/calc/beat01.html

An astonishing pump

The massive figure I have just given is an underestimate of the true number of heartbeats that occurs in an average lifetime because it is based on the frequency of beating in a resting heart. The true figure on the number of heartbeats in an average lifetime would be even greater again. If we briefly return to the analogy of the backfiring car engine I can think of no man-made pump that is capable of performing at this extraordinary level. The human heart truly is an astonishing pump.

So, what are palpitations? Palpitations are defined as a conscious awareness of the beating of one’s own heart. Most of the time we are completely unaware of the beating of the heart but sometimes that unawareness is punctured by a sensation of skipped beats that can be felt in the chest or sometimes in the throat. The palpitation may be experienced either as a fleeting sensation or it may be more persistent. In that latter situation the person may be conscious of either a regular or irregular pounding in the chest.

Palpitations may be experienced after a bout of exercise.

Palpitations are often noticed when we are resting quietly or just about to drift off to sleep and many people are frightened by the experience. We have all experienced that sensation of the missed heartbeat followed by a brief pause when time itself freezes and you wonder for a split second if it is going to beat again. Then just before that unpleasant thought gets a grip, you notice that your heart has already resumed normal beating again.

If you take no other message from this article remember this: most cases of palpitation are normal and are not due to heart disease. As previously stated they are a common occurrence and certain situations increase their frequency. Strenuous exercise can increase the frequency of palpitations. Who has not heard of a person’s heart missing a beat when they were in a state of anticipation before receiving exam results? I’m sure that many people experienced palpitations when they watched the Irish soccer team measure up for the penalty shoot out during the recent World Cup.

Nicotine and coffee

What else can cause palpitations in a person with a normal heart? Cigarette smoking is a major cause of palpitations due to the stimulating effect of nicotine on the electrical conducting system within the heart. Regrettably the occasional palpitations experienced by the novice smoker can become more persistent as the heart begins to suffer as a result of the tar oils and other toxins contained in cigarette smoke. Excessive consumption of tea or coffee can also do it. Alcohol can do it, especially strong spirits. So that strong cup of coffee and glass of brandy after a special meal could explain that fluttering in your chest as you lay in bed trying to go asleep. Finally, who has not experienced that lump in the throat feeling accompanied by a pounding in the chest when experiencing strong emotions?

Inevitably some of the people who experience palpitations do so because of heart disease. If you are worried about palpitations and experience them on a frequent basis then it would be sensible to see your GP and have the matter evaluated. If you experience some additional symptoms such as dizziness, fainting, shortness of breath or chest pain then it is absolutely imperative that you visit your doctor. Some people might also experience a sense of weakness. If you experience any of these symptoms in addition to the palpitations you should see your GP.

Tests that can be done

So what is your GP likely to do? The first thing that will happen is that your doctor will simply talk to you about your symptoms. The doctor will feel your pulse and try to recognise if the rate and rhythm of the pulse is normal. Your blood pressure will also be measured in addition to listening to your heart and breath sounds with the aid of a stethoscope. We have all become so mesmerised by modern technology that we are in danger of overlooking the time-honoured skills of simple low-tech analysis. For example feeling the pulse alone may indicate to the doctor that the person has atrial fibrillation, which is the commonest abnormal rhythm disturbance that we encounter in general practice.

Your GP might also want to examine the electrical activity within your heart, which can be done with an ECG machine. Many GPs have invested in such equipment in their surgeries and can arrange for the test to be performed and can give you a result in the same visit.

In some cases the GP may have amassed sufficient information through this process of analysis that a diagnosis can be given and a treatment plan outlined. It is possible that you may never have to darken the door of your local hospital to have your concerns addressed.

However, some people will inevitably require referral to a consultant cardiologist but that group of people are a minority of the total number of people that experience palpitations in the community. I will return to a discussion of this group in a further article on this subject of palpitations.

Finally, I would like to put the topic of palpitations in its proper context by using one further analogy, which is referred to as the iceberg of illness. The tip of the iceberg represents those people with palpitations that present to the medical profession. Most of the iceberg above the waterline is dealt with by family doctors and only the pinnacle of the iceberg requires the services of a consultant cardiologist. As we all know the bulk of any iceberg is concealed beneath the water, which means that most people with palpitations are normal healthy people who do not need to see any doctor.

Dr Leonard Condren is the medical editor of irishhealth.com

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Last Reviewed: 14th August 2002



  Anonymous   Posted: 14/08/2002 17:23
When I went to the see the doctor about the palpitations that I was experiencing it turned out to be the amount of coke (cafefine intake) that I was drinking. But what was making them worse was extremely worrying. Once I was reassured by my doctor and cut down my coke intake they stopped. I rarely feel my heart skipping a beat now.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 14/08/2002 19:52
I have been experiencing palpitations for 18 months now and am exhausted from them. I have been put on beta blockers to see if they can control them. as I have recently only celebrated(!)my 40th b.day, i am concerned by them. I have spent 10 days in hospital being monitered, but I still have them. I do have a family history of a rare heart complaint, but the docs. are not sure if it is related to this or not. However much docs tell you not to worry,you can't help but be concerned about it.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 21/08/2002 09:28
I have suffered from heart palpitations for years (I am only 34) I was diganosed with SVT and told my condition was a nuisance by a cardiologist. My GP seems to think they are harmless, but it certainly is very scary when I have an attack. Is there any Cure? and what causes them. Nobody can give me an explanation.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 21/08/2002 22:10
thank you for your reassuring explanation. I am 70 and suffer from Asthma. Recently when I undertook a walk I got palpitatitions just below mt chest bone. I just took it easy for a few hours and it then returned to normal.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 21/08/2002 22:43
I started getting palpitations at the same time as the symptoms of menopause started and put it down to that. My heart would pound furiously at night and it scared me. Many many people reassured me it was ok and part and parcel of menopause. I asked for referral to a cardiologist who informed me i have a type of atrial fibrillation which only occurs at night called vagal atrial fibrillation and it only happens every now and then. Finally after many failures with medications i have started on Rhymodan and it works for me. I am not happy to be on medication and wonder if i had left it alone would it have gone away when menopause ended. Anyone know?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 22/08/2002 10:31
Two years ago I had a heart attack and last year a quadruple by pass. I started to suffer from palpitations about six months after the op and it was thought I would have to get a pace maker but my cardioligist then put me on a low dose of beta blocker as I am on other medication for high blood pressure, and can only be on a small dose because it would interfer with my medication.This was working fine no problems and then I notice over the past 6 - 8 weeks they have started to come back and seem to be getting stronger and and I am aware of them most of the time with a feeling in my chest and then up my neck. Should I go back to my cardiologist sooner.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 22/08/2002 20:40
On the evening inquestion, for my dinner I had a plate of pasta with a pesto sauce and a glass of red wine, followed by a cup of coffee. Very soon afterwards I developed a sick feeling in my tummy and my heart began to race - but at a regular pace. I went to bed and the extremely fast heartbeat continued for some hours. EventuallyI got to sleep and woke up the next morning feeling very tired. This tired feeling lasted for most of the following day. This experience hasn't happened before. Thank you. joanbuck. (anonymous)
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 22/08/2002 22:10
I experienced palpitations in my 30ties and 40ties and found them frightening My GP reassured me and I had a normal ECG. I got severe tachycardia after drinking brandy several evenings because I was tired in my earlier years and was given a sedative in Casualty to stop it ECG I think was normal then. I got episodes of irregular heart beats different to palpitations quieter after I cut a large area of grass and after exertion++ in my fifties. Nothing was ever found wrong with my heart but I was nervous. A visiting locum who called one evening after I had a long bout of heart irregularity asked me about tea and coffee and tiredness. He told me I was drinking too much tea and coffee and often when I was tired. I started dringing a lot of herbal tea and water never drink coffee watch fatugue and drink tea less. Since then after 25 years of palpiations etc and fear I have never had an irregular beat or palpitation again. Ineresting re coke. I should stick to water!
 
  phonsie  Posted: 23/08/2002 21:51
I have tachacardia for 3 years.cannot touch full cream milk.Ice cream near bedtime is also a danger.when diagnosed 1st my heartbeat was 238.passed out afew times.When i get gas on my tummy i find the irregular beats.I attend a cardioligist every 6 months,and take tambacour and lanoxin.I drink a lot of tea.and still get the odd episode,as the drs, call it.Have learned to live with it.
 
  liam(mail4liam)  Posted: 25/08/2002 23:37
i have read the other messages, and i will give some advice, never take stimulints ie, coffee, coke, tea, when you don\'t need them. you can\'t take a coffee and sit down and watch tv. no you have to get up and burn off the thing.otherwise it will be absorbed be the thing that pumps it ie your heart.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 26/08/2002 15:36
I've just turned 31 and have started getting what I would describe as a; flutter or an extra heart beat, for about 4 months now on and off. I was worried at first because I have never experienced anything like this before. I went to my Doctor and he thinks it may have something to do with my Thyroid gland but told me not to worry unnecessary. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you the results of the blood test yet as I have an appointment to see him tomorrow! One thing I have noticed though is when I drink coffee it always seems to give me a tight feeling in my chest even though I may only have 1/2 cups a day! I think some people just cannot drink coffee at all, I find tea isnt as bad. I am now switching to decaff but tell myself its real coffee!! :-)
 
  mary(churchill)  Posted: 11/09/2002 23:04
just to let you know that my prblem was drinking too much coffee and tea, Since i cut down it has been normal. Thanks for your advice
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 13/09/2002 12:04
Since I last posted my last message I have had my blood test results back for my Thyroid and all is fine. I have found that now I drink only one cup of instant coffee in the morning(to wake me up!) but decaff for the rest of the time, I feel alot better for it. The tightness in my chest is gone and the palpatations have eased. For those who hate decaff(just like I did) you should try 'Kenco decaff coffee', I think it has the nice creamy taste just like real coffee. I also think worrying and stress is a major cause also, I try to relax myself more now because I have to admit I am a real worrier. Hope my experiences are of some help to someone else out there, remember coffee is bad! :-)
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/10/2002 17:28
I wonder has anyone out there experience of taking amyodore for atrial fibrillation? I find my chest/lungs is somewhat congested since I started taking it. Anyone else found this?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/10/2003 10:41
Congratulations on a well written informative article.
 
  martina(Tarmina)  Posted: 06/12/2003 21:00
I have been experiencing heart palpitations for the last 18 month. Recently I went to my doctor with burning swelled fingers, I was treated for a trapped nerve after 2 more visits to my doctor with change of medications the pain was relieved but strange marks appeared under my index finger and thumb nails {splinter haemorages}also the tops of both of these fingers went purple in colour. My doctor was concerened and then listened to my heart and found I had a systolic murmur{ I have also been suffering constant flue symptoms, headaches, runny nose, lingering coughs}. Since then I have been to hospital I have Had an Ultra sound and an xray both normal, they also took 3 blood cultures they have sent me home now to await the results of the blood culture tests. I am very worried. there is still a soreness in the tips of my middle , index & thumb.Has any one else ever had experience of this please reply A.S.A.P
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 28/01/2004 10:27
Hi martina, I have never experienced thsi but I would say at this stage that you are sorted out hope so! I wrote the message of 14/8/2003, and would like to update you. I came off all medication with consent from specialist, and now only have usual palpitations with perhaps a few more thrown in for good measure! I do not drink coffee at all because I don't like it but have changed to caffeine free, tea (bags), diet coke, etc. I feel that if I can reduce my weight now that this will also help, although being overweight has never been mentioned to me how about you?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 21/04/2004 15:53
I only ever got palpatations a couple of time which I was very suprised about because i am only 23, very fit and have avery active lifestlye. However it seems to be this active lifetsyle that has caused the palpatations because I only ever get them after serious training. I went to the doctor, recently epecially after all of the recent stories regarding athletes haveing heart failure, but all my tests came back fine...i don't know does this happen to other people after sport..
 
  Caroline(VBK15643)  Posted: 12/07/2004 20:53
I suffer from attrial fibulation, and palpatations, No one really knows what has caused it!I was in hospital for 2 weeks and had an angiogram after being hospitalised,I am 41years and over weight,I am aware of this but,i take a lot of medication mainly for my heart, but before i had this problem i was taking thyroxine for an underactive thyroid 125mcg,and citalapram 15mcg,I cant help feeling that one of these were the culprit for this problem.has any one had any of these problems, i have been taking thyroxine for 7yrs and believe it or not citalapam for 4yrs and dont need to be on these ones(but find it hard with coming off them!) please if there is any others out there who has relative interest in this please leave a message.thanks!! best wishes Caroline
 
  fiona(ZFN17002)  Posted: 20/08/2004 20:43
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia last year but in the last few months it has developed into ME. I have been having palpitations qute frequently in the last two weeks with shortness of breath and was wondering was this normal.
 
  Catalin(FYV17325)  Posted: 30/08/2004 10:33
Hi!, I am 40 y.o. and I experienced 5-6 episode of atrial fibrillation during last 15 years. First episode was at 25 y.o. in a stressful situation. Last one was 3 and a half-year ago. Each episode occur in a stressful situation (I am emotive type), and autoconvert to sinus rhythm over 12 hours with help of propanolol or metoprolol and aspirin. All investigation I've made, shows that is nothing wrong with my heart. After my last episode I start taking continuous metoprolol 50 mg/day, so I have 3 and a half-year for continuous metoprolol treatment. Recently I heard that metoprolol can change triglyceride level, increase cholesterol level and so on. The question is that for those rare episodes of atrial fibrillation (5-6 episode of atrial fibrillation in 15 years), I must have a continuous treatment who can have unwanted side effects. The second question is about verapamil. Can verapamil have the same effect against irregular heart rhythms but with less unwanted side effects.
 
  george(DZZ17660)  Posted: 08/09/2004 12:38
Hi, I am 40 year old male, I am experiencing palpitations, the symtom feels like the heart is missing one beat then a thuding beat occurs, I have about 50-60 of these per day and for a period of two weeks now, I dont drink coffee or tea, their seems to be no particular trend to the causes of this( I have had these for four years)I have gave up smoking, drinking alchohol changed my job where I have no stress, but still am now having these ectopic heartbeats, could this be soley electrical impluses that are causing my heart to beat irregular, and if so, what can be done medically for this.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 19/01/2005 16:37
My partner has being getting palipitations a lot recently. He has had them as long as he can remember but now they are affecting his work. When it happens, he can't breathe, has chest pain, and it takes him a couple of minutes to get over it. He is 29 and smokes, drinks and rarly exercises. He has had the 24 hour monitor on him, but it only happens with exertion, and the doc had told him to take the day off. he won't go to the doc and I don't know what to do with him. Any advise?
 
  David(XAN23324)  Posted: 25/01/2005 09:31
I am 18 years old and I have had palpatations on and off, which by what you said seems to be a normality. I was perscribed with Adderoll about a year ago and started to notice the palpatations around a month after I had started to take it. Sometime last month I was told by my doctor that I had a congested ear. When the doctor asked me if I was taking any medications, I said no, the reasoning behind saying no was because I had assumed that he was talking about medications that cure illnesses that can be cured.. The doctor perscribed me with a decongestive medication. Well the first day I took both medications early in the morning as i usually do, later on in the afternoon I went to the gym to do my scheduled workout at the and had my usual power bar right before working out. I began to feel very sick to my stomach during the workout, I soon after vomited several times and noticed that I was having major palpatations that I had thought to be a normal thing considering my friends were telling me how they had experienced the same sensation.The palpatations were very extreme and didn't stop for about an hour or so. I couldn't get an appointment on the military instilation I live on so I decided to wait until I could (I couldn't really afford money for an emergency appointment). But anyways the sensation was as if my heart was about to bust through my chest, it almost felt like my chest was getting ready to explode. This frightened me for the whole hour that the palpatations were occuring and I was just wondering if I had had a good chance of my heart just stopping, or if you could tell me what could have happened when I had experienced these overexcess of palpatations within the span of that hour.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 26/01/2005 19:05
David I hope by now that you have gone and had yourself seen to by a medical doctor. As a friend said to me you only have one heart so look after it. It is always wise to go and have things checked out by a specialist. I had palpitations lasting for an hour or so at a time and they frightend me so much at the time/ my cardiologist discovered an abnormal rhythm and prescribed medicine. Tea cofee alcohol are the main triggers of my episodes as well as large meals/ you probably have nothing wrong but please go and see and get some peace of mind.The very least you need to do is have and ecg tracing of your heart. Best regards Margaret
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 16/02/2005 00:47
i have found this website to be very interesting thanks AG
 
  Sally(FRA24994)  Posted: 05/03/2005 17:02
I am a healthy thin 31 yr old and i have had heart palpitations for 7-8 years that i remember. I used to have them maybe four times a year, but when i got pregnant with my second child i started to have them more, like 5 a day, this scared me, after i had my baby, i thought theyd go away, but they seemed to get worse. I told my doc, and was put on a 24 hr monitor, results came back and they said i was fine, i have premature ventriculation, i can feel them in my throat and chest a fluttery sensation. I think a lot of it is from stress and anxiety, and ive always been a bit of a worrier, also over excersion can causes them, i dont drink any caffiene or eat sugar or choc, which helps, and I read in a herbal book that hawthorn tea (leaves and blossoms) helps with all kinds of heart ailments, including rhythym disturbances, i have been taking this tea for a month now, it seems to help i dont have as many palpitiations, its suppose to help if you drink it for at least 6 wks. Also buying some self help books on worring and anxiety has also helped a lot. I just want them to go away completely.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 20/04/2005 15:29
Hi, I have been having palpitations and paniky feelings on and off for about 3/4 years now.Obviously I have been to the Doc and then to cardiologist but nothing can be found that they think is wrong. I also experience some lightheadedness but in general get on with things and try not to let it bother me too much. Just the other day however, I felt my heart actually stop for about 4-5 seconds and about 2 secs after it started again I felt like a whoosh and giddiness for about 3 seconds then it was ok.Any ideas??
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 22/04/2005 18:37
Hey i too got this weird feeling after getting a bout of palp's it was the most godawful feeling i was feeling so sick and weak i had 2 lie down fortunately it was ok but i was frightened to tell my gp incase he thought i was immaginning it im a nurse u see and very rarely visit my gp!!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 23/04/2005 12:16
Hi Just for anyone out there who may be interested or if this helps! I started having palpitations when i was 14, after tests I was told I suffered from SVT. I was put on quite a few different tabs but none worked so by the age of 20 I asked to be referred back to dublin and I had EP Studies plus ablation done. This is where they pin point the area in your heart causing the palpitations and block the extra electrical pathway. I was in hospital for 2 nights only. I would recommend anyone to get it done, sure I still have a few funny beats but nothing like it was and would go back tomorrow and get it done again! hope this helps!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 24/04/2005 02:22
For : Anonymous Posted: 20/04/2005 15:29 Yes, I have an idea, go speak with your doctor. 4 to 5 seconds is an awfully long time for your heart to stop beating for, and although i truly believe it did "pause" in it's rythm for a period of time i equally seriously doubt you would know it was as long as you say, because I think you would likely have passed out!! don't get angry and think I'm saying your lying, or crazy or anything of that sort, I know your not, your just somewhat confused, and believe it was that long. It is possible for your heart to pause in this way, and it needs to be checked out, if it happened when you were awake and able to spot it, how do you know it's not happening while your asleep? The simplest way to check this out is to have a 24 hour HOLTER monitor test done, you just have the pads attached to your chest, connected to a walkman sized device and carry on with your normal activities. If your heart is pausing this will capture it and record the activity and time, and the duration of the pause. I sympathise with you, I have experienced this problem myself, and I was lucky as my local hospital has quite a few PATIENT ACTIVATED monitors also and I was fitted with one for almost ten days, or however long it takes to "fill the recording disk. It is constantly recording, but if you feel a symptom you press a button and a period of time prior to, and after the event is retained in it's memory. This is an important issue, they measure the pause, and how frequent it is, and they may decide you require a pacemaker. Do not neglect this, your not imagining it, however, you do need a sympathetic doctor too, some can dismiss this as "nerves"!! Don't be put of by a doctor dismissing you, it needs to be checked, if only to prove to you it's not serious.
 
  nichola(JXA26580)  Posted: 24/04/2005 14:20
i am 25 an have suffered from palpatations for many years now i also suffer with panic attacks. when i start having them i go all weak an my head feels like it is spinning, i also get vertigo at times which is very stressful. i had a general ecg which came back fine now i have to go on a 24hr monitor.please could anyone explain what svt is cause alot on here has said they had similar to me an it turned out to be that i just would like to know if i have got that what it means. thankyou
 
  robin(OJD13668)  Posted: 25/04/2005 18:24
Just the other day however, I felt my heart actually stop for about 4-5 seconds -------- Thank you for your reply re: message I posted on 20th April. just to follow up, I went to a cardiologist late tast year who gave me a recording machine for a week.I wasz then getting a worrying missed beat feeling followed by feeling exhausted and sweaty and he explained those as in fact 'extra beats' that felt like missed beats (if you know what I mean).I also wnet to my GP and generally rested for a period just in case it was a stress related thing, it still may be. The feeling I got that day was different,maybe as you say not for 5 secs but certainly 2-3 secs. I was standing talking to a business client and I could feel a stillness and felt no pulse, then it started up again,not out of rythm or with a 'bang' then I felt a close to passing out feeling with sweating . I did not pass out or feel weak after the episode,but yes, it was a scary feeling.I am seeing the GP tomorrow .but I feel he will associate it with last years episodes and that will be that. I am a smoker that has given up many times for periods between 2 weeks to the longest 5 months,alas this is not one of the 'give up' epriods and am smoking about 10 per day.All my ecg's have been ok but I think it may be something I will have to live with.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 25/04/2005 19:20
FOR ROBIN!Yes, i know exactly how you felt, those "extra beats" are actually called "ECTOPIC BEATS", and they are harmless, be assured of that much at least, ok? For the record, they can be brought on, or worsened, by a larger ingestion of stimulants than usual, things like alcohol, cigarettes, choclolate, even tea, which has a very high caffeine level. You need to decide before you visit your GP that your the important one in this equation, your paying them to help you, and if it turns out that it's nothing really serious, that is a cause to be glad, not something they should make you feel guilty about, as if your wasting their time. your paying them for their time, they work for you, remember that, and do not allow them to dismiss you, or tell you it's in your imagination, it's not!! there may not be a recognisable easy to find cause for these symptoms, but for you they are all too real, and your description of how you felt while speaking with a clinet may be sress related, but it may not, and what did not show up last year may indeed now show up if the cause has worsened. Please don't allow an ignorant GP to put you off, change to another one, one that showes you respect while taking your money!! a tip for you, and anyone else feeling these palpitations, bur remember, although this was advice to me by a cardio;ogist, i am not medically qualified, ok? what you can try is as follows, when you experience this "fluttering " or palpatations, make yourself cough hard, from your stomach upwards, a great big, loud, HARRRUUUMMMPPP!!!! don't laugh, it's actually a gentle form of Cardiac Compression, and something a doctor will often ask you to do if your heart is beating a little faster than usual. sometimes a simple thing like this ""COUGH" is all it takes to stop these palpatations or flutterings. Try it, whar have you to lose? Obviously, don't go crazy doing this before an important clinet, you need to do it with some force!!! ;8¬)
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 26/04/2005 08:21
SVT is supra ventricular tachycardia (hope its spelt right!) In my case it was a extra electrical pathway in my heart. I could be doing anything, even sleeping, when I would get palpitations. It is nothing serious and can be fixed no problems. I got mines sorted nearly 3 years ago, I still have the odd funny beats but not compared to what I had before. 2 days in hospital thats all you stay!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 26/04/2005 11:22
FOR Anonymous Posted: 26/04/2005 08:21.;;; Well, i would have to disagree with your two main points, it most certainly is not something you need NOT concern yourself about, it can be VERY SERIOUS INDEED FOR MANY PEOPLE!! I am very, very happy for you that YOUR SVT problem was so easily sorted out, but it is not always that simple or straightforward. Clearly, worrying greatly and stressing out over it is not a good thing, but no one should ignore any symptoms that are associated with, or possibly associated with their heart! We are all of us different, and while yours was a simple "extra" electrical pathway, and you likely had cardiac ablation which fortunately worked first time for you, not everyone will be so lucky, many require several treatments and achieve only a partial resolution, many are required to use medications to help control theirs. They don't have a recognised "NORMAL" heart rate for nothing after all!! Please, if your suffering like this, do see a doctor, and if it really becomes a problem in particular waking you at night, then don't mess about, go to your nearest A&E, they will not put you at the end of a long, long queue, ALL CARDIAC SYMPTOMS are seen almost immediately, especially if you are experiencing the symptoms when you arrive. This is a great time saver for all, if the A&E can record the activity while it's occuring it will speed up treatment for you greatly. Cardiac symptoms are the ones that A&E departments would rather have you come and checked out than wait. Some who wait sadly never get the chance to have things checked out. I wish you continued good health, and pray your SVT problems are resolved forever.
 
  robin(OJD13668)  Posted: 26/04/2005 19:39
Thank you all for your messages, they have given me a lot of reassurance and hope! I went to my GP today and as usual, my BPressure and heart rate etc was at normal. However , he was helpful and listened to me and was contacting the hospital to hurry up a second consultation with the cardiac spcialist/ He thinks I need an 'echo test ' done now. I will keep posting my progress and hope it will help other people who are suffering this scary and stressful disease.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 27/04/2005 11:26
Well done Robin!!! I'm sure I echo everyone here in wishing you the best and praying you have a positive outcome from your consult with the cardio!!!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 22/05/2005 04:56
I have been experiencing heart "flutters" since my early 20's, I am now 32, and since last week, they have been really bad. My father says he has experienced this his entire adult life and it is nothing to worry about. It is hard not to worry when it feels like your heart is going to jump out of your chest. This mostly happens when I am sitting still. When I am up and about, I do not notice it. I have has panic-attacks in the past, and I hope this isn't going to cause me to become a constant "worrier" . Ugh, it is so annoying!!! I will probably go have it checked if it continues.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 27/05/2005 14:34
Yes I am experiencing skipped beats too since I have met a new friend and I am a worrier but my Doctor says that my heart is fine I to have been having panick attacks in the recent past but I have noticed that these skippings have started since I have been dating I am a 59 yr. old woman and this is worrying me a lot cause it starts as soon as I get up in the morning and goes all day ,it is very scary to me cause I am going on a trip and I don't want to have a heart attack and that is the way I am feeling I do smoke and it is easier to tell a person to quit but harder to do I would love to quit but haviing to much on my plate and I do niot have that much will power right now. I also have a very verbal abusive room mate and am going to move in a couple of months but right now this is scarry what I am experiencing. I do have 2 cups of coffee a day to wake me up that is all. O yeh I have also experienced the panick attacks after I had my eye lazered and have a couple of degenerative disc in my neck and back . any good advice out there I know the same old story "quit smoking" for one thing.
 
  tom(AGE29359)  Posted: 28/05/2005 04:10
I am 32 and have been experiencing palpations- welcome me to the club! I had a heart echo done today and everything looked fine. It appears that I'am having anxiety attacks which leads to the palpitations. For everybody who is reading this - you will be fine! Cut out the caffeine - no more Beer- ouch! but for anybody who's ever experienced "THE PALPITATIONS" would glady chuck these bad habits over their shoulder. I thought I was dying when I have these attacks- I was waiting for my heart to just stop and there I would be-on the front page of the newspaper- "32 year old man DEAD" Don't fret! my doctor said there very common but I do have to control my stress. They are also caused by panic attacks. In a nutshell - I will leave you with a comforting thought- go to the doctor and you'll see- you are alive and kicking- just be ready to kick some of your bad habits. Take care and God Bless my palpitating friends.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/05/2005 08:56
Hi Anon, I'm ot goign to tell you to quit smoking but I will say that you need to get rid of that room-mate asap, or at least have her move into another room as I think that will help with the anxiety and also the attacks. Her (or any other normal adult) being verbally abusive is NOT acceptable.
 
  Carol(KGK28395)  Posted: 30/05/2005 13:29
thanks for the message I am moving out on my room mate at the end of July and then I am going to try hard to quit smoking cause tis is scarry.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/05/2005 14:27
8 weeks is a long time to wait. She's not entitled to any more than a months notice. If you give her notice today, you could have her out by the end of June.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/05/2005 15:13
no I am going out of town first and then I am moving out cause it is my room mates place
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/05/2005 16:28
Does anyone have heart beat skips to do to seasonal allergys and allergys to dogs and cats? because I was wondering if that is my case.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/05/2005 16:58
For the poster about seasonal changes causing palpitations. My question to you would be this:: If you suffer these allergies, do you take over the counter, or even prescription ant-hystamines to help with the allergies?? If the answer is yes, then it's much more likely to be the ant-hystamines causing the skipping heart beats than the actual allergies themselves. This could be a chicken and egg situation!! Try not to panic!!!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/05/2005 17:08
FOR Anonymous Posted: 27/05/2005 14:34::::::: Hello, delighted to hear your moving away from your abusive flatmate, that will do you good regardless of your palpitations. With regard to your palpitations, there is a possible, but unlikely, connection between your "Degenerative Disc Disease" and your palpitations!!! There is a large nerve called the VAGUS nerve, which is involved with thew control of most autoreactions, such as breathing and the control of regulating the hearts rate of beating. The nerve comes out of the spine in the upper body, and any damage to it can cause palpitations. This is the nerve which is affected in people with spinal injuries that must be on ventilators, such as Chris Reeve. It's very unlikely that this is the cause of your palpitations, but you should have them checked before you go on holiday, if only to put your mind at ease. TO THOSE PEOPLE POSTING TELLING POSTERS TO IGNORE THEIR PALPITATIONS AS THEY ARE NOT DANGEROUS, I WOULD SAY, "STOP SAYING THIS, SOME PALPITATIONS ARE NOT JUST DANGEROUS, THEY CAN BE A SIGN OF SERIOUS HEART DISEASE AND SHOULD BE CHECKED OUT". bECAUSE YOUR PALPITATIONS WERE HARMLESS, DON'T ASSUME EVERYONE ELSES ARE HARMLESS ALSO.
 
  tom(AGE29359)  Posted: 31/05/2005 15:52
hello again- the best thing for all of you to do (whoever hasn't already) is GO TO THE DOCTOR- you have got to set your mind at ease- that is what my problem was- I would have these heart palpations and then get myself so worked up thinking that I have a serious heart problem that it triggered and anxiety attack! There's a very good chance that you are fine. Millions of people suffer from anxiety attacks and guess what the leading symptom is and what finally triggers people to go to the doctor, HEART PALPATIONS! They put me on a one month dosage of Zoloft and I have been great- I quit the caffeine. The doctor told me that I might get a little flutter every now and then but that will be normal. Before I was gasping for air and my heart was badly palpitating, I was breaking out in a cold sweat and very anxious. Go see your Doctor and let the Doc rule out any heart problem and your stress level will diminish!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 04/07/2005 10:40
I am 40 years old and went to my doctor recently with heart palpitations. She did some blood tests but found nothing wrong. She told me to give up drinking coffee (I liked three cups a day) which I did, but the palpitations continued and are still continuing. However still drink tea but only about twice a day & wonder would this be the reason why I am still having attacks but I think tea has only 1/3 the caffeine that coffee has. When I get an attack I also get very nauseous. I was wondering if you can get palpitations from food allergies or IBS (which I also suffer from) When I eat wheat they seem to get worse and I feel sick in my tummy. My doctor didn't think at the time that palpitations were food allergy related but I can't think of anything else which could be causing them! Anyone have any answers?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 04/07/2005 10:55
Tea contains two thirds of the caffeine of coffee (or more if you like it strong). Ask your doctor if she has dome a thyroid panel. Also ask for a test for coeliac disease wich may be causing you wheat intolerance and thus your IBS.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 04/07/2005 13:30
Nausea is very common with palpatations. One explanation is that when you have palpitations your body pumps out excessive amounts of adrenaline and this is not used up. It lies in the stomach and is the likely cause of the nausea, or so it goes!!! This is one reason why top athletes do a 3 mile run after a big race for example, to burn off the excess adrenaline they produce in competition. you may also be feeling muscle soreness and even cramps as the unused adrenaline forms crystals in the muscles too. If your blood work etc is fine, perhaps you could try some form of meditation or relaxation exercises. You can buy cd's and tapes to help with this at Veritas and other ""new age"" type stores. You can also use relaxing music once you learn relaxation techniques. Apart from caffeine, many over the counter remedies can cause palpitations, such as Sinutab or other sinus meds and hay fever relievers, anything with anti-hystamines will cause them for many people, as do many supplements such as ging seng, or any stimulants. Redbull is a nasty one for this!!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 06/07/2005 17:16
I've been having palpitations for the last 6 months, on and off. It generally feels like three irregular thuds in my chest, I also feel flushed and sick to my stomach. I have also had an annoying cough on and off for ages which seems to aggravate the palpitations. I have never smoked, but I do drink - one night a week, and I have recently given up caffeine. I have experienced anxiety attacks for most of my adult life to varying degrees and understand the power they can wield over your body, but these strange flutterings are new, and horrible. I'm getting a stress test done on my heart in two weeks, and I have spoken to my doctor about it, but I was wondering if anybody had ever noticed wheezing and coughing to aggravate palpitations. I am usually fit and healthy (apart from the anxiety!) and this is worrying me a little. I ran for the bus the other day and got a fit of coughing - which is unheard of for me. I hope that I am just an anxious fool and there isn't anything sinister causing this!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 10/07/2005 13:26
I AM A 39YR. OLD MALE ABOUT A MONTH AGO I STATED TO HAVE PALPITATIONS. I STOPPED DRIMKING 8-10 SODAS A DAY. I WENT TO THE ER THEY DID ALL THE TESTS EKG ,CHEST X-RAY , BLOOD WORK, AND MONITERED MY HEART, AND SAID ALL IS FINE. I TAKE 4-6 NORCO PAINKILLERS W/ SOMA FOR 2BULGED DISCS IN BACK, AND 2 IN MY NECK, COULD THOSE PILLS CAUSE THAT. I HAVE BEEN ON THEM FOR 8 MONS. ALSO AROUND THE TIME THE PALPITATIONS STARTED I RECIEVED A EPHEDERIAL TO MY NECK, WHICH DID NOT DO MUCH FOR MY PAIN. I WONDERED IF THAT COULD HAVE EFFECTED A NERVE TO CAUSE THIS. THANKS ALOT
 
  ray(GIT31266)  Posted: 11/07/2005 01:54
I am 23 years old and a College athlete in the U.S.. For the past 5 or so years i have been experiencing massive heart pounding in my chest while playing my sport. I also have the experience loss of breath and a pounding in my throat. I have been presribed a hypothyroid medication a 6 years ago and noticed that the symptons became far worse when i take it. I have experimented by going off the medication and the symptoms became less intense but are still prevalent. I have ignored this problem for far too long and have made an appointment with a doctor.I decided to take action after realizing that feeling like your going to have a heart attack everytime i play my sport is not acceptable.Is there any other athletes out there that experienced this and were able to get help? please respond if so. Thanks
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 11/07/2005 12:03
Anon 13:26 - 8 / 10 soda as day is way way too much. More so if these are sweetened or caffenated. As for being on 4 - 6 painkillers a day for 8 MONTHS!! This ia completely unacceptable for your own health. See your GP ASAP about appropriate treatment for your disk problem.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 11/07/2005 12:07
Hi Ray - your hypoT meds increased your palps? I really feel you should go back to your GP / Endo. It sounds to me as tho your meds need to be stopped or at the very least revised downwards. palps are actually a symptom of hyperthyroid. Have your meds re-evaluated asap. Just out of interest, when you go off the meds, does it affect your ability to play sport - are you more fatigued from daily activity? If the answer is no, then it's almost definate they your meds need to be reduced following evaluation. ust out of interest why dosage are you on at the moment (I ask becuase I am also Hypo-T and struggle to work out and lose weight).
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 11/07/2005 12:26
To the 39 year-old, You got a shot of EPHEDRA TO YOUR NECK?? I would have serious concerns about this as it as banned in the U.S. by the FDA as contributing to heart problems.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 11/07/2005 12:43
I BELIEVE THE POSTER MEANT AN """EPIDURAL""" TO THE NECK, COMMON THING FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS TO TRY!! HIS USE OF PRESCRIPTION PAIN MEDS IS ABSOLUTELY ACEPTABLE, THIS PERSON HAS AT THIS POINT ""CHRONIC PAIN"", AND MANY SUCH SUFFERSD ARE TAKING FAR MORE, AND FAR STRONGER PAINMEDS FOR YEARS. I KNOW, I AM ONE OF THEM. CHRONIC PAIN IS NOT LIKR ACUTE PAIN, IT CAUSES PHYSIOLOGICAL CHANGES, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONE DEFINITION OF AN ACTUAL ILLNESS. THAT SAID, THE PAIN MEDS MAY INDEED BE ADDING TO THE PALPITATIONS.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 11/07/2005 22:55
Anonymous Posted: 10/07/2005 13:26 I AM A 39YR. OLD MALE To this poster, there is one possible connection between your disc problem and your palpitations. There is a large and important neerve called the VEGUS nerve ehich controls most of the "autonomic" body functions, such as breathing, heart beating etc. This nerve is very much concerned with regulating the hearts beating, and any compression or damage to this nerve from bulging discs could, although it would be a long shot, it could be pressure on this vegus nerve from your disc problems that is causing, or worsening, your heart palpitations. As this is such a long shot i would suggest that you speak with your doctors specifically about this issue, it could be easily overlooked, believe me!! I wish you well, and please, do not be embarrassed about raising this issue with your doctors, it is important you take control of this situation. Meantime, do try to relax, and if only because of your disc problems, avoid undue exertion until this issue is resolved.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 12/07/2005 00:25
I am a 21 year old female and recently started having palpitations or "skipping beats" feeling in my heart. It started about two months ago and occurs for 3 to 6 days in a row. It seems that they are occuring more when I am nervous about something, but they are still occuring when I am resting too. My blood pressure and pulse are normal (I check them regulary at home). I do not do very much exercise and I just stopped drinking caffine. I do not drink alcohol or smoke cigaretts. I thought it was related to my birth control pills so I stopped taking them five days ago (the palps are stil occuring going on 7 days now). They occur sometimes 10 times an hour and sometimes I will go 5 hours without them?? I have had anxiety for a few years and am scared of a lot of things. How many times a day can a feeling of a “skipped beat” occur without being overly concerned about it? I think mine are occuring too often.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 12/07/2005 10:21
Hi Ray, as you're on Synthroid, I take it you are in the u.s . (it hasn't been perscribed here in quite some time) I'm not sure how U.S. doses relate to E.U. ones but 15 mg seems tiny to me. (I for example am on 450 mg) If you feel better off the meds, I say go back to your GP (or equivalent) and get them to do another thyroid panel of blood tests - T4, T3, TSH etc. to see if your meds can be revised downwards.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 12/07/2005 10:24
Anon - whatever you do about your palps please do take care of your conraceptive needs while ou are off the pill - unless of course you want to get pregnant.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 13/07/2005 01:36
HI, I SENT A MESSAGE A FEW DAYS AGO I USE TO DRINK 8-10 SODAS A DAY, AND TAKE NORCO & SOMA FOR BACK AND NECK PAIN. I STOPPED DRINKING SODAS W/ CAFFFINE APPRX. 2WEEKS AGO I MAINLY HAVE THE PALPATITIONS AT NIGHT OR W/RELAXING, HOW LONG COULD IT TAKE IF THIS IS THE CAUSE (SODA ) TO STOP THIS. AND CAN NORCO & SOMA CAUSE PALPITAIONS OR EVEN SPINAL EHPERDERALS? THANKS AGAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN OF GREAT HELP..
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 13/07/2005 10:25
If you stopped your side habit 2 weeks ago they should be out of your system now. Not sure what Norco and Soma are as I have never befroe heard of them being perscribed in Ireland, I'm assuming their pain kilers and muscle relaxants. But you seem to be takign a very high dose of them or and excessiely long period of time. Pain killers are only intended for short or medium term use under doctors suprvision. Pain is a sign that something is wrong with your body - you should go back to your doctor and see what treatment he can provide or have provided for you to repair the disk rupture. By Ephederial, I assume you mean epidural (spinal anaeasthetic) no - this should not affect your palpitations.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 13/07/2005 13:50
HI, """SOMA"" IS ALMOST CERTAINLY THE CAUSE OF YOUR PALPITATIONS!!!! SOMA IS A MUSCLE RELAXANT AND THEY ARE NOTORIOUS FOR CAUSING PALPITATIONS. WORSE STILL, THEY CAN CAUSE TACCHYCARDIA, A CONDITION WHERE THE HEART CAN RACE OUT OF CONTROL, AND THIS CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS INDEED. I KNOW ABOUT THIS AS I WAS PRESCRIBED "BUSCOPAN", ANOTHER BRAND OF MUSCLE RELAXANT AND I WAS TAKEN IN A COLLAPSED STATE TO THE HOSPITAL BY AMBULANCE, HAVING EXPERIENCED TACCHYCARDIA SO BAD I COLLAPSED IN THE STREET. THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST PEOPLE EXPERIENCE ONLY A VERY MILD EPISODE OF PALPITATIONS, WHILE SOME EXPERIENCE IT REALLY BAD, POTENTIALLY DANGEROUSLY SO. ALL MY MEDICAL RECORDS NOW HAVE A SPECIAL MARKER INDICATING THAT I AM ALLERGIC TO MUSCLE RELAXANTS AND ANY SURGERY REQUIRES SPECIAL ANASTHESIA TO AVOID PROBLEM AS THEY ROUTINELY GIVE MUSCLE RELAXANTS TO RELAX MUSCLE SO IT'S EASIER TO CUT THROUGH. I TAKE IT YOUR IN THE USA?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 13/07/2005 13:59
FOR ATTENTION OF: Anonymous Posted: 13/07/2005 10:25.... YOU COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG IN YOUR SIMPLISTIC ASSERTIONS THAT PAIN IS ""JUST"" A SIGN THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS WRONG!! VISIT THIS SITE AND READ THE HUNDREDS OF POSTS BY CHRONIC PAIN SUFFERERS AND YOU WILL SEE JUST HOW ILL INFORMED YOU ACTUALLY ARE ON THE SUBJECT OF PAIN. THE POSTER HAS HAD SEVERAL BULGING DISCS FOR OVER 6 MONTHS, AND ANYONE EXPERIENCING THE SAME PAIN, WHICH INTERFERS WITH NORMAL DAY TO DAY LIVING IS CONSIDERED TO HAVE CHRONIC PAIN, WHAT YOUR REFERRING TO IS ""ACUTE"" PAIN ASSOCIATED WITH AN ILLNESS OR INJURY. SADLY, THERE ARE STILL IGNORANT DOCTORS EXPRESSING THE SAME OUTDATED SUGGESTIONS AS YOURSELF, LEADING TO DREADFULLY UNTREATED CHRONIC PAIN PATIENTS SUFFERING NEEDLESSLY EVERY YEAR.DO A GOOGLE FOR CHRONIC PAIN AND ENLIGHTEN YOURSELF A LITTLE, YOU MIGHT NOT DISMISS THIS PERSONS SUFFERING SO QUICKLY IN THE FUTURE.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 13/07/2005 15:56
YOUR ARRONGANCE IS OFFENSVE - AND BLATANTLY SO. I am very edusted and know the difference between chronic pain and acute pain. THE SUFFERER HAD PAIN FROM BULGING DISCS. These need to be treated asap to correct the problem and thus releive the pain. Chronic pain has no associated cause and is present long after treatment of injury and frequently in the absence of injury.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 25/07/2005 09:04
I have been in hospital recently suffering from headaches and generally not feeling well. My toes are numb in part, not totally, and are still like that after 5 weeks. I had an ECG, chest x-ray, ultra sound of my neck, stomach and pelvis, halter heart monitor, CT scan, mamogram, full blood count and a bone density test. My consultant said I was suffering from stress and anxiety because I have had a lot of trauma in the last twelve months in my life. He discharged me and said he did not need to see me any more but to come back to him if I needed to. However, he called me back last Tuesday and told me I may have a slight touch of Angina as my heart rate increased during the night when I was on the monitor. He said it should not have behaved the way it did. I was back for a stress test last Tuesday which I was told was fine but did not show why my heart did what it did during the monitoring the previous week. I am going for an angiogram on Thursday. I am very worried about this and wonder if anyone has experienced anything similiar. I also had an x-ray on my back last week because I have been suffering with my back for years. I usually don't have a problem with it except if I have to stoop doing anything e.g hovering, standing at the sink. I would have to sit and rest it. I had an MRI on my back years ago and was told that it was a bulge leaning on a nerve. I have not had that happen for years since. I don't have palpitations as such - very slight but am very nervous and my legs feel like jelly and my left arm feels weak at times. I don't know why I am being like this as I am sure whatever in wrong can be treated. Any tips on how to calm down and not be so anxious.
 
  Sally(FRA24994)  Posted: 31/07/2005 20:24
I have stress and anxiety and have for a few yrs, it comes and goes, i also have,heart palpitations,which i got checked out by my doctor and he said i was fine, sometimes everyday and then sometimes i wont for like 2-3 wks. it is very frustrating and i dont really like going places, afraid i am going to have them when im out and about. I do find that positive thinking helps, and that i am in Gods hands, this Really helps and also some teas help, Valarian tea is a great relaxer as well as Chamomile and Hawthorn tea from leaves and berries is suppose to be good for any heart ailment, i would suggest getting an herbal remedy book, there are different tinctures that can be mixed for nervous heart complaints, Its worked for me, with no side affects or addiction, i still have them, but definently not as much, the more im not afraid of them the less i have. It does help to read everyone elses palp probs too! :O)
 
  Chris(CLB32445)  Posted: 07/08/2005 22:58
I have heart palpitations and they are occurring more and more. I try to forget about them but when they happen back to back, I get more nervous. I am afraid to go places and participate in activities. Does anyone know when a person is having too many? I hear that people get them but how many per hour. On my worst day I might get ten in a fifteen minute span. Is this cause for concern? Since I found this site, I am a bit relieved to hear that so many people have this condition. I thought that I was in a small group of people who experience them. Just looking for words of encouragement.
 
  kelly(ETT33827)  Posted: 31/08/2005 22:13
I started taking palpitations about 2 months ago, when i had my baby 3 years ago the doctors realised i had an elarged heart but its seemsed 2 go down now by itself so they think it was pregnancy related....i was sent for a 24hr ecg which came back normal but bcoz of the enlarged heart i keep thinking im gonna take a heart attack...does having a normal ecg mean that the heart is fuctioning fine?
 
  Barbie(NLE31319)  Posted: 01/09/2005 16:43
I am the 21 year old female who wrote a while back complaining of skipped beats in my heart rhythm. I went to the doctor and they did an EKG which came back completely normal. I also did the 24 hour Holter Monitor which did not come back normal. My heart is beating extra beats every once in a while. The doctor told me it was nothing to worry about right now, but if it seems to get worse then I need to come back in. He also told me it is a possibility I will out grow it or it will get progressively worse. Some days I won’t experience any and some days the skipped beat feeling will occur every two or three minutes for a while. All I have to say is that it is really annoying and I wish there was something I could do about it…
 
  Nick(JUO21925)  Posted: 12/09/2005 05:59
Hi folks. I'm Nick. I'm in Canada.. in Britics Columbia. I have had palps for three years now and I wanted to relate my experiences to you because I KNOW how you feel with them come. The first time I got them I thought I was a gonner for sure. I studied the heck out of this problem becuase there was NO WAY I wanted to let any of my parts deteriorate! I am fit, but overweight. I have a normal resting pulse of 44. I had an attack on August 22, 2003 and it scared me. My rate was up to 210 and they told me it was atrial Fibrilation. They gave me Lanoxin after that for me to take when I felt them coming on. I have found out subsequently that Lanoxin pretty much just puts a limit to the speed of the heart but won't control the palps. Over the next year I had all the test. I had a full blood profile, a treadmill test, hormone tests... and full physical. I did like everyone else and dropped the likely suspects. No more coffee or caffeine drinks. No stimulants of any kind. When I studied my blood profile, one thing stood out. My calcium was high. The doctors didn't really say anything about that. It didn't seem to bother them. I continued to have attacks off and on. Mostly at night. But sometimes in the day if I was stressed. I had another substantial attack... one where I decided to go to the hospital back on July 14th. This time they discontinued the Lanoxin and gave my Rythmol. When I studied Rhythmol, I found it was a calcium channel blocker. This was a red flag for me. I looked at my history and remembered that in the six months leading up to my first attack, I had been taking "Coral Calcium". It was the big fad here. This explains why my calcium was so high. The problem is that when you increase your calcium, you must have the right amount of magnesium with it... or you will be out of balance. This is the basis for the electrical system that runs our bodies. Since going on Rythmol, I have been perfectly normal. Not a single episode. No attacks. I've felt great. Zero side effects. With my doctor's ok... I decided to stop Rhythmol for a while after phasing in 300 MG of magnesium. Interestingly, after starting to take 300 mg. of magnesium daily, I found the muscle twitches in my eye or facial area disappeared. They were not serios twitches.. .just a small muscle firing.. Everyone gets them. I felt relaxed. I have achieved the same effect as when I was taking Rhythmol. I am not saying this will help you, but you might wish consult with your doctor about it. I think there is a link between over use of calcium and some of these arrythmias. Do a google search for magnesium deficiency and see if some of those symptoms are you! Anyway... just my 2 cents. All the best to all of you. Nick.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/09/2005 22:01
I have recently started having palpitations and visited my doctor - an ECG was done is normal. I was asked to get a blood test and thyroid test done. I am waiting for the results but wondering what the blood test is going to show? Are palpitations related to thyroid problems?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 16/09/2005 10:56
Hi 22:01 - if you have an overactive thyroid it can cuase palps. Or if you have an underactive thyroid and are on meds where the doage is a little too high, this can also cause palps. If you have an overactive thyroid, you may also notice, excessive sweating, weight loss, increased appetite, difficulty sleeping and nervousness/irritability.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 17/09/2005 03:52
According to my doctor, I have an underactive thyroid but am not on any medication yet so I suppose we could rule out the dosage causing the palpitation. I may be incorrect in saying that I have palpitation as I see from the posters here that it means irregular or skipped heart beats - is that correct? My problem is as though my heart is pounding - a dull pounding, that's quite prominent when I go to bed. The pounding sometimes makes me feel nauseous and I'm unable to sleep.
 
  Mick(SZV34680)  Posted: 17/09/2005 18:07
I have had palps (benign eptopics) so they say for about 2 years now. When they first started they were occasional now in some episodes I get them every 3rd beat. This is distressing and I have tried several Beta Blockers Atenalol and Nebivalol. My doc says I should now try Sotalol, which I am informed can cause irregular heartbeats! I need to do something as these are driving me crazy. Anyone else any experience with Sotalol please?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 19/09/2005 10:42
Anon 03:52 - if you have an underactive thyroiud, I would go back and question your Dr. as to why you aren't on medication? This can affect your energy, heart health, fertility, libido, concentration, skin, hair and mood.
 
  Laura(FVO34963)  Posted: 22/09/2005 21:59
I would like to know if anyone has a cough associated with the heart palpitations. When I get the skipped beats, and my heart tries to "catch up", I have an enormous and sometimes uncontrollable urge to cough. This is really annoying in social situations.
 
  Ford(BFT35052)  Posted: 25/09/2005 06:44
Hello I am a 38 yr old female and have had SVT for about 15 years. I enjoyed reading the posts. I have been really disappointed at the response I have had from my doctor and cardiologist, apart from the beta blockers that I take which do help. I have had a halter-monitor test done which showed the SVTs and had endocrinology blood tests on my hormones which came back normal and thyroid etc. I also had an echocardiogram which was normal. My episodes previously lasted about 5-10 fast beats and I was having 100's a day. I have given up all caffeine including chocolate/cocoa and coke. This has helped a lot. I realised also that decaffinated coffee still has caffeine in it! By doing my own research I found out that too much sugar increases adrenaline which increases palpitations. Also on my own I started taking Berrocca with magnesium in it. That has reduced my palpitations by half. Amazing! My heart also pounds about 1hr after eating my evening meal. My cardiologist says he can't help with that! I have since seen a naturopath who suggests I could be sensitive to some foods. I have cut down on flour and processed foods and this has helped the pounding. Over time your body can become sensitive to things especially if you have consumed alot of a particular type of food or drink over the years. My cardiologist won't do electrophysiology studies because I have 3 different types of palpitations and I might only get a 50% improvement if they could even find the area!! I was told that I could have a problem with electrical pathways, but yet they won't do a map to find out. Sorry if this sounds like a gripe session but I don't understand why doctors won't try and find a cause other than the basic blood tests. I know my palpitations are not life threating but something is causing them. I wounder what would happen if doctors decided to say, "Hey lets work to find a cause" instead of "many people get them just ignore them" maybe the millions of people who have them would be finally free of them. Thanks for listening. PS I do get a cough if I feel palpitations in my neck. I have been shown a manuoever to hold my nose closed then bear down and try to breathe out. Its like what you do to unblock your ears when you are flying.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 26/09/2005 13:02
mick I to am on sotalol 80mg in morning and 8omg in evening and had a bad afib yesterday starting at 2.30 and finished at 6.45 this am I am recked as a result its very scarey, I have had two others this year one in April lasting 24 hrs one in July the same and one last night both other times I had to go to ICU. to be monitored the worry is stroke I am now on Warfrin. Ihave learned on reading the articles on the above that maybe I drink to much tea,So I am going to switch to decaf and see if this helps I have stopped drinking I still have a half a glass of red wine and fill it up with water, the doc yesterday said maybe I should ask to be paddled this is to get the heart back on a regular beat has anyone tryed this could they let me know, good luck to all its nice to know I am not on my own in this.
 
  Audra(XSD35115)  Posted: 26/09/2005 14:09
I read all the comments about heart palpitations this morning and yesterday I had a really bad attack. I felt really tired. My heart was pounding and I also experienced shortness of breath, back and neck pain. I've had all the blood work, mri, ekg, and my doctor put me on atenlol. I don't feel any better and have been dealing with this for over three years. I would love to get rid of these because I'm even afraid to do outdoor activities because I feel as though I might end up in the hospital. If anyone can help me I'd appreciate it.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 26/09/2005 14:47
Mick - I don\'t know if you know this but paddling should only be done in certain circumstnaces. It actually emits a shock to the heart.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 02/10/2005 10:09
I used to suffer from palpitations years ago but knew this was down to anxiety and stress but over the past couple of weeks I have had them really bad and only on waking up in the morning when I come to get out of bed, my hearts races, misses beats and I also have a coughing fit. ECG showed to be normal but still worried as to why it is only happening when I wake up. Been taking 25mg for high blood pressure for 10 years now taking 50mg from this week to see if that helps.
 
  Guliano  Posted: 13/10/2005 14:35
About 2 months ago, after becoming seriouisly dehydrated from playing hard tennis in 100 degree, high humidity, and almost passing out,I started getting a sensation that resembled my heart pausing and then thumping in again. These occurred about 4 times a minute day and night. I went to my doctor and he told me that I have always had skipped beats ofr the past 15 years that he has been my doctor. He had me wear a Holter Monitor for 24 hours, After he reviewed the recording he seem to not be too worried about my condition, but due to my concern he sent me to a cardiologist. He performed an ecodoppler test and an ECG or EKG test. The eco test was good. The EKG test showed that I was having about 4000 heart skips per day. He was not too concerned and told me to cut out alchohol (I never dring soda and drink only i cup of cofee a day). 4000 skips!!! This really worried me. So I used my BP machine that shows an icon of my heart beat and have been measuring my skip rate. Yesterday my 24 hour rate was about 10000 per day, With the 10000 skips per day, I decided to take an antacid. After about an hour and a few good burps, the skip rate reduced to about 2000 per day. Can anyone explain this? NOTE: I am 74 years old and I feel no ill effects as the results of these skips -- NO DIZZINESS, NO NAUSEA _ NO WEAKNESS -NO NOTHING! I play tennis 3 times a week in the heat or sold and these beats are actually lesser after tennis. Somebody please explain this
 
  Tony(INE36095)  Posted: 14/10/2005 18:52
I am very frustrated with these palpitations. I have had them for about 4 years and now they have become worse. I have several a day. They feel like my heart flutters and skips for a few seconds. I have also had 2 episodes of a fast heart rate that I am really not sure what it was and neither do the doctors, they think it might have been short runs of SVT or anxieyt.I have been seen by a cardiologist and EPS doctor. I have had several EKG's, Holtor Monitor, 2 Echocardiograms, two 30 day event recorders and the only thing that show is "occasional PVC's and PAC's" in which I feel and they stink. I am an avid athlete who runs three miles a day and am afraid to continue that in fear that I am going to die. I have been reassured by my doctors that I am not going to die and to "just put them out of my mind' but it is much easier said than done. I am quite a worrier and have realized that the more I worry the worse they are. I smoke one cigarette a day and have now quit that as well. I have stopped the caffeine and they still persist. I am 28 yrs old and not overweight. they have now started me on Paxil CR 12.5 mg daily. Anyone have any suggestions. I am now starting to have full blown panic attacks because of these palpitations. Am I going crazy or should I just chill and bear with them? Any helpwould be greatly appreciated
 
  Tony  Posted: 14/10/2005 20:29
Hi I am a 28 yr old male, smoke 1-3 cigarettes a day, run 3-5 times a week (3 miles) and play soccer. I have had "skipped beats " for about 4 yrs. Also had two short episodes of a fast heart rate that lasted 30 seconds. I have gone to see an EPS doc and cardiologist. I have had a holter monitor, two 30 day event recorders, 2 echocardiograms. The only conclusion was "infrequest occasional PVC's and PAC's" that I feel when I have them. They are driving me crazy. I am usually anxious, now have stopped caffeine and smoking. Just started on Paxil CR 12.5 mg. I feel like I am going crazy. Anyone have any suggestions?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/10/2005 14:21
I have been having heart palpitions for a few years now I often feel dizzy and lightheaded. I also have heartburn and am taking medication for that, I get a feeling of a lump in my throat alot, I feel like I can't get an answer from anyone but I've been feeling this way for over a year now. Just wondering if anyone feels these same symtoms and if you have answers?
 
  Guliano  Posted: 17/10/2005 00:35
I forgot to mention that in the morning, when I first get up, I have no skipped beats or palpitations. They start up after I am up a while and have breakfast. I am totally uncomfortable with these but no one knows how to get rid of them, and no one knows what causes them. Imagine ... 10,000 missed beats per 24 hours? Wow!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 17/10/2005 19:56
Toronto, Canada: I hope my story will help some of you. I'm a very active 37 yr old male. I do a lot of cardiovascular exercises 3-4 times per week. I play a lot of different sports year round. Back on July 15th, 2005 while returning to my car after a pretty heavy weight-lifting work out I started experiencing heart palpatations for the 1st time in my life and I also felt light-headed to the point where I lowered my body to one knee so in the event of a fall...the fall would be short. I never passed out and did regain my composure but the palpatations didn't let up much and that scared me a lot. I decided not to take any chances and had myself driven to the hospital Emergency Dept. The doctor there ordered an ECG, blood work twice (6hrs apart), and a chest x-ray. All the tests came back as "normal". The palpitations were very apparent to me and could be heard thru a stethoscope. He told me that it's likely a buid up of adrenalin causing the palps. Ever since this traumatic day I've been experiencing palpatations on and off. I've been so disturbed by this incident that I now experience panic attacks (which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy). Like most of us I went to a cardiologist for an Echo and a Stess Test and guess what the tests came back "normal". I was told by the cardiologist that I'm a very healthy 37 year old male with nothing to be concerned about. Relax...don't worry so much. That's easier said than done isn't it my fellow palp-friends! I've been off work for 5 weeks no (Short Term Disability) because the panic attacks were getting the better of me. The palpatations aren't my biggest concern at the moment however they do come and go for no apparent reason. I'm seeing a Physcologist to talk about my anxiety (and the scary physical symptons that come along with it). We are reading a self-help wookbook on Anxiety and Phobias. It's been very useful and informative to me. It's called "The Anxiety & Phobia Workbook" by Edmond J. Bourne, PH.D. I know personally how anxiety attacks can follow heart palpatations so this workbook has provided some excellent breathing exercises and muscle relaxation exercises to help reduce stress and anxiety as a whole.
 
  Tony  Posted: 18/10/2005 16:33
To Toronto Canada That was a great post. As the days go by and the more tests I do I realize that I am my worst enemy. I really need to chill out. When our time comes, it comes and there is nothing we could do about it. It is always good to be vigilant about our health, but when we worry exessively about our health it doesn't allow us to enjoy our everyday life. It has taken me a long time to realize this. My panic and anxiety has got the best of me and now it is time to take my life back. Thanks and good luck.
 
  carol(UCA20270)  Posted: 18/10/2005 17:37
hi, i am having bad palps for some years now, have had all the tests etc and was asked could i learn to live with it? i am on lots of medications for high bld pressure but the palps are not caused by these. yes, they are very frightening and over the years i have tried cutting out coffee, chocolate, alcohol etc but nothing stops them. mine are at their worst when i sit down or go to bed.
 
  Toronto, Canada  Posted: 20/10/2005 00:02
Hi Carol - my palpitations are more noticeable when I first lay down. I normally get a few right away. I tend to pack the pillows under me so I'm in more of an upright position at night. This seems to help but I'm not sure how good it is for your spine/neck.
 
  AC  Posted: 20/10/2005 19:51
Im 41 yrs old and have been having this pals for 6 months now. Ive had stress test, ekgs, blood work done etc but no one can give me an answer. It starts in my throat and atits worse , end up near my esphogus. (bad speeling). Im healthy , a non-smoker , into fitness and sports. Honestly, this has got the best of me. I cant function any longer. At times I feel I have 2 hands around my throat. Many times this occurs after I eat. PLEASE HELP....
 
  carol(UCA20270)  Posted: 21/10/2005 20:05
hi AC, yes, i also have had palps after i have eaten and i found the best thing to do is to get up and walk around? i know its hard,but i have these now for about nine years.you could also try the bach flower remedies."rescue remedy" may help you. sorry i cant be of any further help to you.
 
  SD  Posted: 23/10/2005 17:24
I am menopausal and have been experiencing the skipped beat and the racing heart beat off and on now for quite awhile. Someone told me it was part of menopause. I did go to the doctor and my EKG was normal. What now? I would like to hear about other menopausal women.
 
  Nick  Posted: 23/10/2005 22:19
Anonymous from Toronto, I thought I was reading my own story! You details are exactly like mine. I was returning my rented truck to the rental place. All the rest of the details are exactly the same. Mine happened in 2003 and carried on. The anxiety is the worst part. After an attack I would be vitually imobilized for days, until my mind convinced myself that it was ok. Distance helps. I have studied this subject madly for the past two and a half years. My findings are this: Palps (or more likely atrial fibrilation) in a normal healthy heart is caused by spurious electrical activity. The sinus nodes are not firing correctly all the time. Many persons who experience this problem also have above average muscle twitches in the face.. .like eye twitching, ears, cheeks etc. The cause is more than likely a chemical one. Many of the people with this problem have elevated calcium levels. Doctors don't pay much attention to this fact because the levels are just in the top of the normal range. But they are all up there. I managed to reduce mine significantly by eliminating all stimulants. You've named them all in this group. I take hawthorne berry power, CoQ10 150 mg, and magnesium 150mg twice a day. I walk 30 minutes every day (this part is not negotiable. Rain, wind, snow...whatever Just do it or would you prefer to have the palps?) On this regimine I cut mine down to once every three months. But even that was too much so I spoke to my doctors about it and they gave me Propafenone (Rythmol). 150 mg three times a day. This is the smallest dose they can do. There are zero side effects for me. This stopped the problem completely. I have not had them since I started taking them. Now I am listening to tapes and such to overcome the anxiety feelings that can well up inside when I think about how the attacks were. I listen to Wayne Dyer's "Create life with your Thoughts" and read Neale Donald Walsche's book "Conversations with God". I look at life differently now. I feel I can live again. I know how you all feel who are going through this in the early stages. One of my doctors told me, "Imagine how strong your heart and cardio-vascular system must be to withstand 220 beats per minute for two hours? Your car couldn't take that stress load." He's right, if there were defects in your heart, they'd certainly show! I am always willing to discuss this privately with anyone who wishes. Just email me at rangefire@gmail.com Take care, Nick.
 
  Nick  Posted: 23/10/2005 22:23
Tony, Get a second opinion on the paxil. That is a one way street you should avoid if possible. As you doctor about Rythmol. N.
 
  Innika(VUY36719)  Posted: 26/10/2005 04:52
A month ago I started to experience palpitations for the first time. I was freaked out, but both my GP and a doctor at the hospital (where I went when I didnt believe my GP) assured me I was fine. They checked everything, including any inflammtion of the heart, blood pressure, thyroid etc. However, they did put it down to anxiety. Since then I have done some research into GAD (Generalise Anxiety Disorder) and found out that not only are palpitations a major symptom of GAD, but sufferers are more likely to notice them in the first place because they are hypervigilant! I know this wont relate to everyone, but for those of you (like me!) who know you worry alot, this could be the reason! I have learnt to control my palpitations with breathing technigues...works for me!
 
  Angie  Posted: 26/10/2005 18:33
I am a 49 year old, post-menapausal, woman and have suffered from palps intermittently for 4 years. I also have mitral valve prolapse, diagnosed in my early 20s but with few symptoms until a few years ago. The symptoms coincided with menapause and a prescription for Xanax. Initially, the palpitations were 24 hours a day, my heartbeat was totally irregular. That subsided and now I get "flutters" about 20 times a day and a missed beat feeling about 2 - 3 times daily. I did see a cardiologist who put me on a holter monitor for 24 hours. That revealed benign PVCs and bradycardia, especially while sleeping. At one point my heart rate was about 30 beats per minute, with some longer-than-average gaps. I had an echocardiogram which showed my heart to be anotomically fine and only a slight regurgitation from the MVP. Apart from this, I feel quite fit. I don't get dizzy or faint and have plenty of energy as long as I get enough sleep - which can be a problem due to menapause and anxiety due to palps. I have more or less abandoned coffee and soda and drink 2 cups of tea daily. I was very excited to find this forum. This condition can be very scary and I share the feeling of impending doom and fragility. Any suggestions?
 
  Cary - Toronto  Posted: 28/10/2005 02:46
Hi Angie - for anxiety I take the following vitamins (which has helped me). B100 complex time released (1000mg once/day), C time released (1000mg once/day), Calcium-Magnesium (500mg 3 times/day). I met with a naturpathic doctor yesterday and she said a 15 minute hot bath with 2-4 cups on Epsom Salts just before bed is very calming. You can also look into various breathing techniques and progressive muscle relaxation. I do both 3-times per day religiously and it sure does help reduce anxiety. Lots of exercise is important too. Most of us are reluctant to exercise the body enough because of the "fear" something is really wrong with our hearts but to the contrary exercise is the key. Best of luck.
 
  joeboy  Posted: 28/10/2005 16:00
Does anyone have more palps when you get hot...that is when mine seem to be the worst.
 
  Ashlea(UDO36887)  Posted: 29/10/2005 00:23
i AM 22 YEARS OLD, AND ONE YEAR AGO I HAD AN EP STUDY WITH AND ABLATION BECAUSE I HAD SVT. THE DOCTOR TOLD MY FAMILY THAT PALAPATIONS AND FLUTTERS I WOULD FEEL EVERY NOW AND AGAIN. I HAVE AND I AM STILL SCARED OF THEM. MY EXPERIENCE WAS VERY TRAMATIC AND I WANT TO TRY NOT TO BE SO SCARED BUT DON'T KNOW HOW. ARE PALAPATIONS NORMAL TO FEEL?
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 31/10/2005 22:14
I just wanted to know if anyone else was experiencing this. I just turned 25 years old. About 3 months ago I started waking up with a racing heart at night, It would feel like I was having a heart attack and my hands and feet would get clammy. I went to the hospital and they told me it was most likely anxiety. My doctor told me the same thing. It happened most nights but then for a month it went away. It returned last week. On top of that, I have been getting frequent heart palpitations the past two weeks, EVERY DAY. My heart stops, rolls over, and flutters. It makes me very nervous and worried. Should I be concerned or could this be an anxiety issue?
 
  Innika(VUY36719)  Posted: 01/11/2005 02:50
Have noticed that my palpitations are worse in the few days before my period, and have only occurred since I got off the pill...linked to progesterone or estrogen??
 
  krayziesaiko  Posted: 01/11/2005 03:39
Hello. I am a 20 Year old female. I have heart palpitations sometimes. I had them almost every day for about 2 months starting this August, but lately I only get them at certain times, like when I am afraid of getting them or very nervous. I have been to the Emergency Room 3 times and they monitored my heart for a long time and said that nothing was wrong, that I just had an anxiety problem. I have a history of panic attacks, but never had any where I felt my heart flutter or skip. I don't exercise a lot but I walk a lot, because I don't have a car. I eat really healthy and take vitamins and don't smoke, drink, take caffeine or anything. I think I might possibly have a food allergy because I always get them right after I eat. (usually something particularly dough-ey) Does this happen to anyone else?
 
  Cary - Toronto  Posted: 01/11/2005 16:51
Hi Rhonda - I'm no expert but both my family doctor and the cardiologist I had tests done with told me the flutters/extra beats/skipped beats are in almost all cases innocent and nothing to worry about. I know it's easy for them to say but when you're the person experiencing them it is scary. My flutters started back in mid-July right after a hard work-out in the gym and they really gave me a scare too. They bothered me so much that I started to panic everytime I felt one. It led to panic attacks which brought on some other scary symptoms such dizziness, numbness, pain on the left side of my chest, upset stomach, etc. I really thought something was seriously wrong with me even though I had all sorts of tests done to prove otherwise. Next I began to deal with the anxiety attacks when they came. It's a slow process but I would recommend you do breathing exercises and progressive muscle relaxation 3 times per day religiously. It works miracles. Once you have control of the anxiety the flutters don't really bother you and you can go on and live a normal life. Hope this helps.
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 05/11/2005 19:24
Thank you Cary....I will try the exercises.:D However, I'm still scared. I went to the doctor the other day and they ran another EKG on me. Well, the EKG came back saying "Right Branch Bundle Block." My doctor told me not to worry about it, that the EKG probably misread it. Do these machines often misread? Does anyone know of this happening, or has this happened to any of you? I wish I could just find out the truth about what was wrong with me....I'm tired of being paranoid about this.
 
  marnia  Posted: 06/11/2005 12:37
Just spent the last hr. reading all your comments..having just in the last few months developed Par.A.Fib.I thought thats it..life over...the sudden waking in the middle of the night by my jumping heart...breathlesness..etc.etc.,Reassurances by G.P. didn't help..even bringing Tony Blair's recent health problem into the conversation didn't help as I really felt no-one really knew what it's like..and even joking with them about my epitaph 'I told you I was sick'...what DID do it for me was reading all your experiences..I'm not alone in my experience with this horrible, very scary condition..what I hope to gain is to get out of this vicious circle of when these palps. start not making it worse by panicking..not easy..anyone try relaxation techniques or yoga? though paradoxically sometimes I have to race around doing things...anything..just to distract myself..adrenalin rush...that's of course when I'm not too dizzy and breathless...Mine is complicated by asthma..some of the meds. I have to take could possibly be the very cause of the A.Fib. AND possibly the Beta blocker for the A.Fib can aggravate asthma..any ideas,folks..thanks everyone for taking the time to put forward all your ideas..I don't feel alone anymore.
 
  ali  Posted: 07/11/2005 02:42
Ive been trying to find out more about palpitations and found that a lot of the comments made were similiar to my own problems.The only thing different, or maybe no one mentioned it,is that while i do notice that i have the palps throughout the day, i seem to get them more frequently when i get home from work. i no sooner sit and start to relax and they start, and they very rarely go away. they seem to stay with me constantly throughout the evening. i dont drink coffee or tea although i am a light smoker. i work at a thoroughbred horse farm and have tracked how much i walk (about 10 miles per day) and thats not including the exercise i get from mucking, grooming, etc. i also have my own horse that i usually see every night. i think my problem relates to stress and i have been on medication for this. anit depressants actually. i have been off of them for about a year now and i dont want to go on any again as they made me feel like a walking zombie. i also feel like crying all the time and frequently wonder if it is the onset of depression again. i have heard that tai chi is supposed to help a lot for many disorders. any body out there know!
 
  carol(UCA20270)  Posted: 07/11/2005 15:40
hi ali,i know exactly what you mean about palps when you relax, they effect me that way also.my doctor said that it was something to do with the adrenaline hormone?in fact, he said it was working backwards??so, instead of my getting palps when i was under stress, i get them when there is no stress! ! this probably doesnt help you at all though? i have these years now and they are still frightening, but i was also told that i would have to learn to live with them! !
 
  m(FYQ37340)  Posted: 07/11/2005 21:18
Hi all! I'm a 46 yr old male from Canada. I've had occasional heart palps most of my life,mostly when I'm tired. I should mention at this time, that I fractured my left wrist a month ago, & have a cast on my left forearm. Last Monday evening, I suffered some emotional stress followed by sweating & a sickly feeling to my stomach. The next morning (Tuesday), on my way to work, I started feeling some heart palpitations that just didn't seem to go away. As the day went on, they'd come & go at random. I went to see my chiropractor the next day & he said that my back & chest (thorax) muscles were really tight & to go for a therapeutic massage. Could possibly have been caused by the weight of the cast & limited mobility of my left arm. I went for the massage, and the massage therapist couldn't get over how tight all the muscles were. I had a hot bath when I got home & had a good night's sleep. These palpitations lasted all week, so finally, on Saturday evening , I decided to go to the emergency room at the hospital.I frequently took my blood pressure at home & it always remained around ± 125/65 with a pulse around 60-75, but I could hear the irregular heartbeats. Once at the hospital, they immediately hooked me up to an EKG machime & heart monitor. They told me that I have an irregular heart beat. The peaks on the graph for each heartbeat are supposed to be evenly spaced. In my case, there are 2 peaks close together followed by a large space before the next two peaks. Occasionally, the peaks will even out. The doctor mentionned something about a premature heartbeat.... Anyhow, he put me on 30mg Calcium Channel Blockers, 3 times per day. I've been taking them for 1 day now & don't seem to have taken effect yet. I just came back in from removing/cleaning some snow, and took my blood pressure. It was 125/70 with a pulse of 96. I had very few palpipations during this test. As I am writing this, my heartbeat is slower & I can feel the palps. Seems like the meds aren't doing what they are supposed to do yet. Am I being impatient? I am waiting to go see my family doctor sometimes this week. Thank you everyone for reading my post & for any info you can provide. PS: My doctor is working on getting me an appointment with a cardiologist for an evaluation....probably in a few weeks from now.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 14/11/2005 00:41
First, I want to say that I've been encouraged by finding this site and reading everyone's postings. I am a physically fit woman and I bave been blessed to have had enjoyed good cardiovascular health all my life. But starting in September - out of the blue - I began getting occasional but strong heart palpitations (a few times a day, sometimes I'd go a few days without any). Then about four days ago, the palpitations kicked into overdrive, and now I have these flip-flopping, skipping beat, heart palpitations all day long. I eat healthy and only occasionally have a glass of wine or cup of coffee or tea. I've eaten desserts with chocolate before, but they've never triggered problems with my heart. I don't tend to have the palpitations - or at least I don't feel them - at night when I'm sleeping or while I'm running or cycling. I don't suffer from panic or anxiety attacks, and I'm trying to take these strong heart palpitations in stride, but as all of you know, they're hard to ignore, especially when they're happening all the time now. I have an appointment with a cardiologist early this week, which I hope will put my mind at ease about all of this. Any thoughts?
 
  Marc  Posted: 14/11/2005 22:36
Hi all ! I'm the 46 yr old male from Canada whose post is the 2nd one above this one. Last Friday, my Dr. called me up to tell me that he has just received the results back from my blood test for MAGNESIUM. The normal level in the blood is .7 - 1.0 Mine is at .65 ! He immediately put me on supplements to bring up my magnesium level. I did alot of reading on magnesium deficiency & one of the primary symptoms is what most of us are experiencing here.....heart palpitations & irregular heartbeat. I've only been taking supplement since last Friday & haven't noticed a difference as of yet. Hopefully, as more Magnesium is absorbed by my body, things will start to stabilize. As for the calcium channel blocker, I'm up to 60mg, 3X a day & seems to control my palpitations. I can tell when it's time to take them. Here are some websites to check out: http://www.ctds.info/5_13_magnesium.html http://www.bellybytes.com/articles/magnesium.shtml http://www.consciouschoice.com/1995-98/cc093/hmd093.html I truly believe that you will find this info very helpful. Wishing you all much luck ! Marc
 
  Rick  Posted: 15/11/2005 05:35
I am 58 years old, normally very healthy and health conscious, but I have been experiencing palpitations for a couple of months now. As I was keen to learn as much as I could about this condition, I began looking for information on the Internet, and found this forum. I would firstly like to say a big thank you to Dr. Condren and everyone who has posted here, for all of your advice and reassurance. I do not know why my palpitations suddenly started up, but I have always been an anxious type, and a worrier, and I have been taking Cipramil for some time now for the anxiety. I do think I feel a lot calmer these days, but I know that, deep down, I am still anxious. There are things going on in my life that are constant sources of anxiety, so it's still there, despite the medication. My palpitations seem to come on for no obvious reason, and may continue for up to a day, then I may have up to three or four days with normal heart rhythm, but then, back they come again. They feel like "flutters" in the throat, neck and chest, and I can observe my pulse doing the same thing. I also have a persistent tickling and other odd sensation in the throat and chest, and, yes, it makes me want to cough, as Anonymous 06/07/2005 17:16, and Laura and Ford, and Anonymous 02/10/2005 10:09 all mentioned. It was interesting to read what Nick said about calcium. I, too, have been taking coral calcium powder daily for some time now, without any balancing magnesium, so I feel that this could be a factor in my case too. Thanks Nick! Ford mentioned that too much sugar increases adrenaline, which increases palpitations. Very interesting! I do not normally ingest much sugar, but for the past few months, because I have found a supply of it, I have been eating a lot of raw honey, since it is supposed to have beneficial effects. I have also taken to eating sweetened condensed milk from the can, because it's so yummy! The timing of both the honey and the condensed milk binges do roughly coincide with the onset of my palpitations, so I must consider this a factor also. Thank you Ford, and I'll try that nose-holding procedure too! Thanks to Anonymous 25/04/2005 19:20, I'll try that forced cough idea! This is also rather amazing! When I began reading through all of your posts, I was experiencing palpitations, but, as I read on, and found myself relaxing because of the reassuring words, they actually subsided and my pulse returned to normal! That says a lot to me about it being stress-related, so thank you all once again! I hope that my comments are helpful to some fellow palpitators, as yours have been to me.
 
  Chris  Posted: 15/11/2005 21:28
Hello everyone. I am a 17 year old male. Recently, since the loss of a loved one, I have noticed this -- Ok, I was running down my gf's road to my car which I had parked for a surprise, and when I got down there, my heart was beating quite fast.. I told my self that it was ok, and normal. But when I got home, it only felt like my heart was still yet beating out of my chest, no matter if I rested or anything. Eventually it went away, my blood pressure was up, not a ton, just a little, and my heart rate was a little over 100. This feeling made me feel smothered, sick, everything in the above. This has only happened twice, and both times I was under some form of stress or nervousness, and was running. The most recent one was two days ago, and it was the same predicament, except it was down my road this time. When I breathe up I can feel my heart palpitate sometimes, but only after something that requires a lot of energy, and it eventually leaves over time. I have kind of realised this could be panic attacks, and thats what everything seems to point to... but I still can't figure out why my heart does this, or if I'm just paranoid because the loved one that passed away died from a heart problem.. Can someone give me any idea of what could be causing this? When I was running down that road, though, it just felt like my heart was beating out of my chest when I stopped running, so I walked around some to try and walk it off, but it didn't help, it just had to leave after I walked around for awhile and knew my life was in God's hands. I don't drink, smoke, or do any kind of drugs, I don't take any medication, and I have cut my caffine intake by a lot, almost none. This has just been happening since that event, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out here. Thanks!
 
  Mary  Posted: 16/11/2005 11:58
Chris, a similar thing happened toi me aftr my Dad died. I would wake up in the middle of the night with palps like my heart was skipping a beat: skip (for what seemed like ages), then thud thud thud (very fast) them booom - what semed likea lod heartbeat. Then woulkd follow a panic attack; - the only thin which helped this was to crawl into the shower and turn it on as cold as I could bear and stay there (usually on my hands and knees, it seemed that I could cope better that way) until they eased off. It did improve but it took time.
 
  Roy  Posted: 16/11/2005 14:55
Reference Rick's message and all the useful comments from many, I to suffer from irregular heart beats and feel them in my chest and neck, I am 58 and have had them for some time, been through EKG, echocardisgraph, stress tests etc, put on beta bokers and all proves ok except ther very anoying beats in the chest.At one time I had and still have sometimes a pain in my back level with my neck about T7 so I massaged it heavily and not only did the neck pain go but also the heart palputations.I now do this massage on my neck when the beats are bad and they go away, am I fooling myself or does it really dfo something, thanks for all the info on previous messages.
 
  Tara(RDQ37869)  Posted: 17/11/2005 03:17
I am 35 years old and have started having palpitations or "missed beats". It has only been for 4 or 5 months so far, but it just seems to be getting worse. It is almost everyday, with it lasting for hours. I have been to my GP and had blood test done. All were fine. Now I am booked for a Holter Analysis(24hr monitor). Nothing in my life has changed, and even though I have had anxiety/panic attacks in the past, I am on medication and have not had any problems for years. Does anyone else find that they feel just tired and crummy when having these? I like to work out at the gym quite often and find that I just can't anymore because of the palpitations. Any one else? It sure is annoying! By the way, I agree with everyone who has said to get these palpitations checked out. I could very well be nothing serious, but there is also the chance it could be... never take your health for granted...
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 17/11/2005 16:11
I am 28 and have suffered with heart palpitations for over 9 years now. I was told a year ago i have a premature heartbeat by the doctor and not to worry about it. I now don't drink tea, coffee or coke and very rarely drink alcohol but yet the symptoms persist on a daily basis. I could feel a skipped heartbeat up to 20 times a day, and am now very scared by this and am certainly unconvinced by the doctor that these are harmless. Can anybody tell me how best to find out if they are indeed harmless or if i need this problem to be investigated further.
 
  Nick  Posted: 18/11/2005 02:55
Marc, Interesting situation you have. What is the medication your doctor put you on? I have the same symptoms as you. I am three years older. Reading all of the stuff on this site I can really see the patterns. I went on Rythmol (Propaphenol) three months ago and have been very good since. I research the heck out of this drug. I am on 150 MG. That is the minimum dose to provide effectiveness. Zero side effects. I also take magnesium supplements twice a day. I have had the odd palp but it is days in between and they are never more than a single beat. After looking at the sites that you posted I can see that it is more than likely that calcium is the culprit. I was taking coral calcium for six months prior to my first attack in 2003. When I read that calcium leaches out the magnesium... and the shortage of magnesium causes what we experience.. Hey! I think there is something to this. Thanks for posting the sites. Nick.
 
  Kim(ROT38053)  Posted: 21/11/2005 21:32
I am 24 years old and have suffered from heart palpitations for several years. At first they were caused by my thyroid, then blood pressure. Now I have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrom due to two serious car accidents. My palpitations come and go but I have episodes that last weeks at a time. I have been to the hospital, had an echo and all my electrolyte levels are normal. My blood pressure is controlled, my hypothyroidism is controlled and I do not intake caffeine. I find, as a woman, that THAT time of the month makes them worse. I also suffer from anxiety and high-stress. It's nice to know people out there can relate. Is there anyone with FM like me? Does anyone find fatigue makes them worse?
 
  GT  Posted: 23/11/2005 21:40
I am so glad i found this site it has been truly informative. I am a sufferer of heart palpitations for the last 3 years. I have tried to learn a lot about this condition because it is so scary. What i have learned is that stress is definately a factor. I do not drink coffee or tea or sodas or alcohol because i am a panic attack sufferer as well and these foods can trigger an attack. I do however smoke (I gotta have one vice in life). For information i suffer from heartburn and palps after food as well, I know that i have a lot of allergies, and when i eat mayonnaise for example with my salad i get heartburn and palps - i was told it is the egg in the mayonnaise that i am allergic to (I have had food allergy tests done)- also if i eat some fruits which are over ripe it causes palps. Also diarrohea can cause an imbalance in your electrolytes which can cause palps. Drink lots and lots of water with a pinch of salt and a pinch of sugar to balance out the electrolytes. I use rescue often when i feel anxious and this works and I also suffer from palps in the night and on waking in the morning, that is really scary. Also when I am feeling flue-ish, this can also cause palpatations. Another interesting fact which i picked up on this site is the correlation between neck pain and palps. I had a spinal fusion done three years ago just about the same time as i started with the palps. I go for phsyio every week to cope with pain but i do not take pain killers because of the fear of them triggering a panic attack/heart palps. The physio really does help. So there are many reasons why palps occur. I am off to the doctor tomorrow because for the last 2 days i have been suffering terribly from palps and it is debilitating, and scary. I am on a beta blocker (10 mg per day) small dose but dont find them helping in my situation. Just like most of the postings abor, i get all the symptons - the palps, dizziness, nausea, queasy stomach, life stands still for a moment. Thanks to all of you, i really thought i was going insane and was to scared to talk about this incase people thought i was insane.
 
  Cary - Toronto  Posted: 24/11/2005 01:22
I've only being experiencing palps for 4 months. I also was experiencing panic attacks for a while too. They have more or less gone away but the heart palps have carried on. I've noticed them more so if I exert myself (run up the stairs or squat and stand up quickly). I'm wondering if anyone else experiences this too? I continue to do breathing exercises and progressive muscle relaxation to help reduce anxiety. I'm actually going to try accupuncture this Friday. Apparently it's great for people who suffer from anxiety/panic attacks.
 
  marnia  Posted: 24/11/2005 01:40
Hi All! One important thing I would like to say is that even having read everyone's stories that it is VERY IMPORTANT to have yourself checked out with a cardiac specialist....ECG,Holt Monitor. Echo Scans etc..I, like the above sufferer, thought that I was losing my mind..every time I got a spell of the A.Fib. I put it down to nerves and told myself that it was my own imagination..told my GP on several occasions but when he examined me my heartbeat was normal! My local hospital told me the next time it happened I was to go straight to A&E..but on two occasions by the time I got there, and I only live 5 minutes away, the palps had stopped..one time just as I walked into the hospital! I was monitored but everything was normal..even my 24 hours on the holt monitor showed nothing..I thought I was going crazy and I felt like an idiot when each time I was examined..everthing was normal..until the last two episodes..when my heart did show that it was beating irregularly and between 160 and 185 beats a minute. I felt scared but relieved that the doctors could see finally what I was talking about..not that they doubted me but when it showed up on the ECG I could say 'That's what I'm trying to explain'. The reason I'm writing this is because it was explained to me by the Cardiologist that with A.Fib. it's important to be on some blood clot control medication because the top two chambers of the heart are beating too fast for the blood to circulate properly through the heart 'it swishes the blood around' too quickly for it to move through the bottom part..and clots can form and go to vital organs..that's about the most simple way I can think to try to explain whats going on with one kind of palpitations. From what I understand, most palpitations are harmless and I don't want to scare and stress anyone more than they are already..what I do want to say is DON'T IGNORE THEM..HAVE IT CHECKED OUT..IT'S IMPORTANT... and I hope everyone who does have them checked gets a clean bill of health...happy healthy days to all!!!
 
  fifi  Posted: 25/11/2005 14:11
I suffered with them when my diet included a hell of a lot of diet coke. Its the caffeine. I stopped the junk & they stopped. However, just to let you all know that a lot of excercise can also trigger palpitations. Recently Ive upped the rate I work out at & since then Ive been experiencing them once more.
 
  jpro  Posted: 04/12/2005 00:53
Hi, I'm not sure if I fit in to this catagory because I can drink coffee, tea, eat chocolate and not get palpitations or svt. It only happens to me when I drink alcohol and it seems to happen after I go to sleep. I was on a halter monitor and was beating at 174 for 30 min. while sleeping after a few drinks. I know this happens to other people and would like to know if people still drink or have they stopped? I'm definitely NOT an alcoholic, but as a working mother of 3, I like to de-stress and have a drink or 2 now and then. My doctor put me on a low dose of toprol xl and I am currently on an event monitor to see if it happens at other times when I'm not drinking. I still wake up at night after 1-2 drinks and am very paranoid about it and am constantly checking my pulse rate. I was getting anxiety attacks for awhile too and getting myself in the 120's by thinking about it. Any advice ?
 
  Brandy  Posted: 04/12/2005 02:50
I have had heart palpatations for years but doctors said I had anxiety or drink too much caffeine. Finally last week I had one and drove to the doctor so they could hear the beats. They immediately sent me to the hospital and I had every test you could name, holster, nuclear medicine test, stress test, ekg. It all shows good. I was told it was probably electrical and I could get ablation procedure to stop it forever. Does anyone know about Ablation. They put me on Toporal XL but I am scared to fly and go on trips now scared it will happen again. I just stopped taking premarin 30 days ago and was also on thyroid (unithyroid) small dose 25 mg. daily. I thought getting off all medication would help. I take Concerta for Add. I am an active real estate agent and don't like to feel that I am going to have an attack driving down the street. Can someone help me that has the same problem or has anyone had ablation? Please respond and May God Bless You.
 
  Marc  Posted: 06/12/2005 03:02
Hi once again... I'm Marc from Canada. Sorry for the long post, but it contains some good info. To answer the questions posted by Nick on Nov 18th... I WAS on Diltiazem, 60mg 3X per day. I'll explain in a moment why I am no longer on it. I'm still taking Magnesium supplements at a rate of 200mg 4x per day.. morning,lunch,supper & bedtime. I'm not taking any calcium supplements at this time. I eat fairly healthy which probably supplies my calcium requirements. I recently had an appointment with a cardiologist. At the Heart Testing Clinic, I had an Echocardiogram & went through a stress test. I performed very well during the stress test, and my heart actually stabilized to nice regular & even beats. While on the treadmill, my heart rate went up to 180 bpm. When I later saw the doctor, he told me that my heart seemed very healthy and that there was no evidence of any heart problems. The doc gave me the "green light" to be physically active.I will be starting to cross-country ski soon & hopefully this will help condition my heart. According to him, the palps are the heart's reaction to something else such as stress, cafeine, etc and they are more of a nuissance than anything else. The doc mentioned that they could possibly go away as fast as they appeared. I don't drink coffee or tea, don't smoke but I love my chocolate once in a while. I should also mention that I am a "high-strung" person. Everyone tells me that I am "hyper" and never stop. "Stress" may be the main culprit here. He asked me if I honestly thought that the Diltiazem made a difference. I told him that I still felt some palps even on the meds. He told me to try and go without them. That's what I'm trying now, and don't feel any more palps now than when I was on Diltiazem. I would really prefer not to have to take them. I take the Magnesium supplement instead, at the intervals mentioned above. On Saturday evening, I was at a party where I had a few drinks. I awoke Sunday morning with REALLY bad palps...felt like my heart was going to jump out of my chest !! It's better today. Now I know that alcool affects my palps,I'll be careful. This afternoon, I had a phone appointment with my Naturopathic Doctor. After alot of questioning, she is suppecting digestive tract problems..... the palps seems worse after eating & I'm constantly burping and feel some bloating...like some pressing under my rib cage. She will try treating my digestive system for the next month with homeopathic remedies. Will keep you all posted with the results. She also mentioned the importance of getting good rest as lack of sleep depletes the body of Magnesiumn, which I am already low on. One more thing I'll make mention of. Some may believe in this and some may not. In my Nov 11th post, I mentioned that I had fractured my wrist on October 12th,about 3 weeks before I started having palps. The heart "meridian" just happens to go throught the wrist...very close to where the pulse is felt. I fracture my "radius" bone in my wrist which is right over this meridian. Is there a connection ?? Some seems to think so. Now that I'm rehabilitating my wrist, my palps may dissapear. Hopefully, with all the good things I'm trying out,I won't have to feel this "toad" jittering around in my chest for the rest of my life. Good luck and much health to all! Best wishes for the Holiday Season & for 2006 which is just around the corner ! Marc :)
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 06/12/2005 04:08
I just recently began having heart palpitations after having a tooth worked on at the local dental office. Prior to the dental visit I was perfectly fine. It's odd to feel my heart beating at the base of my throat, I can tell when my heart is missing a beat. It's a strange feeling. So, i want to the doctor and have been told that I've got Respiratory Sinus Arrhythmia - I'm almost thinking it's worse than it really is. I feel so uncomfortable with with condition....
 
  kris(QTK38793)  Posted: 07/12/2005 20:33
Thank God for this message board. I've been feeling like a basket case b/c of recent SVT incidents. Three weeks ago I saw my GP about an attack I had the previous night - heart rate of 150 - woke me out of a sound sleep. He recommended thyroid tests. Waiting for those to come back I had another attack and went to the emergency room and stayed through thanksgiving weekend. They ran the 24hr monitor, another round of thyroid, heart ultrasound, enzyme, and urine tests - all normal. Only one more attack since then, but my heart rate and blood pressure remain consistently up about 130/90. They've considered anxiety, but are concerned something else might be amiss, b/c heart rate and bp are usually only up during an anxiety attack, not all the time. I've had a bad time with the prescribed beta blockers and calcium channel blockers - more insomnia, and heart rate still up. I haven't tried magnesium yet, is there a preferable formula? Mag Oxide chelate? Something else? Also, anyone know if adrenal disorders could be the problem? Thanks again to you all for sharing on this topic, I feel like less of a freak after reading everyone's experiences.
 
  Cary, Milton Ontario  Posted: 08/12/2005 02:37
To Marc in Canada. You're story mirrors mine. I've been to a cardiologist and he told me the exact same thing you were told by your cardiologist. I've been seeing a Naturopathic doctor recently too. She believes my heart flutters are caused by anxiety. I was working under very stressful circumstances for the last 2 years...to the breaking point. My heart palps started all of a sudden back in July and have not gone away (yet). To me it's quite frustrating not knowing what's actually causing them. I've changed my diet, exercise regularly, don't smoke, don't drink coffee, do drink herbal tea. I too noticed that alcohol (especially hard liquor) gives me palps so I stay away from it altogether now. My life has been changed that's for sure. To me it seems like there are a lot of folks out there with unanswered questions. The fear of the unknown causes anxiety. I wish there was some sort of outlet to help give back peace of mind. Every time I get a new flutter I feel like I've taken a step backwards in the healing process. I recently changed jobs at work and this has eliminated a lot of stress in my life. With guidance from my Naturopathic doctor I changed my eating habits, I exercise on a regular basis, I do breathing exercises and progressive muscle relaxation, take a hot bath every other night and add 2-3 cups of Epsom Salts (AKA Magnesium)...so in time I sure hope my regiment pays off. So far (afer 4 weeks) I'm about the same except I've trimmed off about 5-6 pounds! :) I tried acupuncture once so far too. Anything you're doing in particular I've missed I would really like to know about. Cheers, Cary
 
  Contra  Posted: 09/12/2005 17:46
2 years ago i went on a crazy drinking binge for about 8 wks over the xmas period I was drinking heavily Friday Saturday and Sunday night but not during the week. Since then if I got out for just one night drinking but drink heavily, about 20 units, then the following night I cannot sleep and get very strong palpitations. My heart rate does not seem fast, around 60bpm, but it keeps me awake all night. Also with this I get a very strong ache or feeling of pressure in my cheast around the heart area. Feels like i would imagine a panic attack feels like but no shortage of breath. This has been oing on now for the last 2 years and I have just been taking a sleeping tab to get me off to sleep when this happens. But last weekend I drunk very heavily for about 11 hours on the sat night. When it came to bed time on the Sunday I could not get to sleep even with a sleeping tab. I was awake all night but very tired. Monday morning I went to work and as the morning progress my chest became more painful until a point where I felt faint. My MD drove me down to my local A & E where they gave me and E.C.G, checked blood pressure and x-rayed my chest. My blood pressure was a bit high 160/95 i think and my chest x-ray was ok and the blood test and E.C.G showed no heart problems. Also my Cholesterol was 5.9. After being in A & E for about 3 hours with no medication things got worst, my left arm went very cold and I got pains in the centre of my left hand and then all my finger on my left hand swelled up. I was given some gaviscon and some drug to relax the muscles. Chest x-ray was done again 12 hours after first pains to check for heart damage and all was ok. Tuesday night I had the same probles and the pain came back plus did not sleep all night again. Continued to have more problems during the week but am feel ok now 12 days later. Could this just be because I drink to much or could it be that the drink is triggering some underlying problem. Cheers, hope to here your view soon.
 
  Rick, Australia  Posted: 10/12/2005 00:24
Further to my post of 15/11/2005, I have since visited the doctor to renew my prescription, and mentioned the palpitations to him, whereupon, he checked my blood pressure, and found it to be 155/95, which he remarked was a little high (I had just walked up a long hill, so perhaps that might have had something to do with it, but my blood pressure has always been around the 145/90 whenever I've had it checked). The doctor also recommended an electrocardiogram, which I had then and there, and a full blood test, which I fasted for overnight and had the next day. I might mention that, when I initially visited the doctor, I wasn't experiencing palpitations, but later that afternoon, they started up, and continued until after I had had the blood test (another case for stress?, I hate having blood tests!). I returned a few days later for the test results, and the doctor informed me that the electrocardiogram and the blood tests (blood sugar levels, liver functions, enzyme levels, red and white cell counts, electrolytes, prostate, etc.) were all normal. He then repeated the blood pressure test and it was 140/90. He said that he would like me to get a bit fitter, as I haven't done a great deal of exercise in recent times, although I was, in the past, an ardent gym-goer for many years. Since the tests, I have not had the palpitations as frequently, maybe three bouts in the past two weeks. It seems to point to stress mostly. One other thing, since I read all of your posts on this forum, I have ceased taking the coral calcium powder and have bought some Chelated Magnesium (magnesium amino acid chelate) tablets from the health food store, and take them regularly, so perhaps they're beginning to make a difference too? Kris, you asked what type of magnesium, this is the one the health food store people recommended, they said it is the form most readily absorbed by the body. So, that's my latest update, and thank you all once again for your ongoing posts.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 12/12/2005 11:15
Contra, IT SOUNDS AS THO THE PROBLEM IS TRIGGERED BY THE FACT THAT YOU WERE DRINKING WAY TOO MUCH ON THOSE OCCASIONS.
 
  Innika  Posted: 13/12/2005 02:40
A few months ago I wrote to the list regarding recurring palpitations which the hospital assured me were benign. Since then, I have concentrated on making my lifestyle as healthy as possible. On thinking about it, the natural way is the best way, as these are the types of foods that our bodies are most suited to. I have changed my diet to include mainly fruit and vegetables, and have limited alcohol, fats, oils and all processed foods. My palpitations have completely stopped. The hospital originally told me that they were from anxiety, but I have been through some stressful times since, and experienced no palps at all. I recommend diet and exercise, as well as a regular sleeping pattern as the best way to combat palpitations. Good luck everyone!
 
  sonia(OUZ39029)  Posted: 13/12/2005 21:49
I have had heart palpitations for two years, about 3-4 a day.They occur when I am tired, stressed, drink alcohol,after a larger meal,when I am hot, or for no reason at all. For about 5 years now I can't stand the heat, I get dizzy. The palpitations coincide with the beginning of menopause. I wonder if there is a hormonal imbalance that triggers all this, and what are the glands that could be involved, besides the thyroid gland. Also, is there any connection between hormones and the level of magnesium in the body, as well as hormones and heart electrical impulses.What other electrolytes could cause irregular heart beat. Thanks
 
  Mick  Posted: 17/12/2005 11:14
Anonymous Posted: 15/10/2005 14:21 I have been having heart palpitions for a few years now I often feel dizzy and lightheaded. I also have heartburn and am taking medication for that, I get a feeling of a lump in my throat alot, I feel like I can't get an answer from anyone but I've been feeling this way for over a year now. Just wondering if anyone feels these same symtoms and if you have answers? You are not alone, I get these symptoms regularily. I recently had a Gasroscopy (not pleasant) and they said I had inflamation, for which a doubled dose of Omeprisole has been prescribed. I have also tried most of the Beta Blockers and touch wood, I have found the right one Flecanide 50mg X 2 daily. £ months in fingers crossed and only a few to mention. As for the breathlessness, my GP said yes, that can be difficult! I have since changed my doc and the new one is very understanding, why? Because he is a sufferer himself. I am going back in the new year, I'll keep you posted. Have a good Christmas all, your not alone. Mick
 
  Cary, Milton Ontario  Posted: 18/12/2005 02:49
Hi Mick - I feel dizzy a lot of the time and my ears seem to ring too. I'm certain these particular symptoms are mainly anxiety related. I do get heart flutters/skip beats on a pretty regular basis which I believe is the root cause of my anxiety. It's such a mental game at times. I've noticed that the more stress I'm under or the more active I am the more flutters I get. I'm hoping over time I will train my mind not to expect to experience flutters/skips beats whenever I exercise or find myself in a stressful situation. You know I was fine all my life up until about 5 months ago when one day it seemed like I had a major panic attack which included a lot flutters, dizziness, hot & cold spells, I really thought I was going to die. The flutters don't scare me anymore they just irritate me and that's because I do all the things one is supposed to do who suffers from anxiety...yet I don't seem to be getting the results I want fast enough. I have to be patient. Hang in there soldier and happy holidays.
 
  Daisy  Posted: 18/12/2005 10:38
Hi. I'm in Auckland, New Zealand. What a releif to find this site. Thanks for sharing your stories. They've made me feel so much better. I have had a weekend from hell. I've had the odd palpitation for years. They were quite bad during my pregnancy and afterwards (baby is now 5 months old) but had eased off significantly over the last 2 months. Because I've had them for as long as I remember I don't worry too much about them. Have had the odd ECG which is normal and a couple of months ago Dr suggested I see a cardiologist but haven't found the time. Then on Friday I started getting them one after the other, 3-4 a minute lasting for 15-20 minutes with a 5 min break then off again for 15-20 mins... I've been having over 180 noticable "skipped beats" an hour I guess. Went to A&E, Dr there said I'm probably just exhausted, heart sounds normal, have a good nights sleep, should be ok in the morning. Well it's Sunday night (48 hours later) and they're still coming strong, and have been all weekend. Will see my Dr first thing in the morning and will take his advise and get to the cardiologist asap. It's terrifying having them one after the other for such a long period of time, it's the change in them and the regularity which is a worry. I hardly drink, don't eat badly, am only slightly overweight after baby, don't suffer anxiety at all, live a stressfull life (kids, business, home, husband to take care of) but cope fine. It's strange.. fingers crossed that nothing is seriously wrong! Thanks for listening.. Nice to know I'm not the only one and that you guys are alive and well to tell your stories :)
 
  fifi  Posted: 19/12/2005 09:18
palpatations are normally the result of a bad diet. Too much caffeine, smoking, high fat food & no excercise can cause them. Stress can also play a part. The flip side of the coin is if one does a lot of strenuous excercise, this can cause them also.
 
  DD  Posted: 19/12/2005 11:30
Aside from pregnancy (wihc put an enormous strain on the body anyway) I have found my palpitations to be the result of thyroid meds which have not been finely tuned, stress (a major cause) or drinking spirits late at night. My diet doesn't seem to affect my palps at all.
 
  Andie  Posted: 21/12/2005 17:11
I have been having palpitations since I was 14 I have tried everything. From eating nothing bad for you to having that annoying heart mointor on me, for over 48 hours. And because I did not have a palpitation they said it was nothing and dont worry about it. Now I have children and I am scared, and it is starting to scare my children when I have an episode. Can someone give em advice on how to stop this from happening.
 
  Greg  Posted: 22/12/2005 15:18
FIFI's comment about a bad diet is not entirely correct most PVC's are not caused by a bad diet. I do agree that Stress,stimulants and being tired may cause them. For a bad diet to be the cause you would need to be eating like someone who is possibly homeless as in not very much at all. To prove my point, if you suffer from PVC's and think FIFI is correct cut out any high fat eating for a week and take 1 vitamin aday. I tried this and it didn't work for me or people who post on Medhelp.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 22/12/2005 16:53
You'd need to be ctting out junk food for at least three weeks. Also if you are eatign good healthy balanced diet, you shouldn't needs any extra vit supplements.
 
  marnia  Posted: 22/12/2005 17:34
Be very careful re cutting out foods as the very food item you cut out can leave you without the vitamins or minerals you need. Cutting out foods is a long and complicated process and mostly involves cutting out items one at a time and seeing how you get on without each individual item before you can decide what particular food either causes the fibs. or whether a combination of foods is the culprit..either way don't do anything without your dietician's advice...May I wish each and every one of you and yours a wonderful Christmas and a healthy and palpitation-free 2006!!!
 
  greg  Posted: 22/12/2005 17:50
Ok I agree, It would take more than a week, I tried it for over a month and it had no effect. I suggested a multivitamin for those who maybe don't like all there veggies. I have found that a glass Orange juice aday helped me maybe the potassium??? Banana's made mine worse..maybe to much potassium???? everybody is different. I also consulted my doctor who said people today who eat "healthy" go way over board, he said its better to eat alot of different things in moderation ie... having a pizza once a week won't kill you but eating at Mcdonalds everyday for lunch just might.
 
  Anon  Posted: 23/12/2005 09:53
No one need be in the slightest bit worried about cutting out junk food. There is not much nutriton in much of the junk food we consume from time to time and if you're eating a good healthy balanced diet, you won't be in danger of losing out on your vitamins and minerals anyway. I think most of us know what is is a healthy balanced diet without needing to go to a dietician unless of course we have specific food alergies - which is a different matter. Even if cuttign out junk doesn't help our palps it will benefit you in so many other ways. For me the triggers seems to be - when my cort levelsget out of sync with my thyroid meds (a rarity nowadays as I have them quite finely tuned) - caffeine - spirits late at night (brandy & port - having a disturbing dream seems to give me palps for ages after I wake (unfortunately my Dr's answer to this was sleeping tablets - which made me feel hungover) - stress was the biggest trrigger of all.
 
  Marc  Posted: 24/12/2005 04:37
Hi again....Marc from Canada here. Lately, my stomach has been acting up. I have spasm-like sensations in the centre of my chest that I can feel up to my throat. This makes me want to cough (just like heart palps) and I also feel like burping alot. It is really hard to tell if it's heart palp or my esophagus going into spasms. Did some research on that this evening, and came up with the possible condition I have been experiencing. The condition is called "Gastro-Esophageal Reflux Disease" or simply "GERD". I did a Google search on "GERD and Heart Palpitations" and got a bunch of results indicating that the two CAN be related. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I was recently tested by a cardiologist & he confirmed that my heart was good & strong & showed no indications of being "sick". He told me that something else was causing this to happen. I want to find out what this "something else" is. Magnesium deficiency was a possiblity - I am still taking supplement & things haven't really changed. Eating certain things, DO make me feel worse & seem to trigger my heart palps. I have been eating alot of Tangerines lately & that made it worse. There's a dish of Xmas mints on the counter at work, and I have been eating alot of them. According to what I read, those two things aggravate GERD symptoms & in turn can "simulate" heart palps or even affect the heart beat due to muscle spasms in the thorax caused by the esophagus reacting to an "enemy". This GERD thing seems to make sense now. I am taking the over-the-counter medicine Gaviscon, to see if this will help. Will also try to watch what I eat during this holiday season....that's gonna be hard !!! When I get stressed, I'm not sure if it's my stomach or my heart that feels sick, but I get that "sickly" feeling in my chest. Now that I know about GERD, I will certainly look out for symptoms. I want to discuss this with my family doctor after the holidays & requests that some test be done to confirm this. I suggest that all of you research this condition and you might find that this makes alot of sense. Season's Greetings to all of you! I wish you all a HEALTHY 2006 filled with Joy, Happiness & Prosperity ! Marc :)
 
  Tony(EJZ39363)  Posted: 25/12/2005 02:17
My condition was like Chris I had lost my mum & nan within a 6mth period and also smoked cigarettes & cannabis and was experiencing panic attacks and my heart beating fast for know apparent reason or without strenuous exercise, I was checked out in the hostital had the usual ECG, blood tested which came back fine but I also experienced a tingleing sensation through my chest and throat which was a uncomfortable feeling, I assumed this was all down to stress. I gave up smoking both cigarettes and cannabis and started drinking decaffeinated coffee also a friend of mine recommended a herb or should a call it a wonder plant called Rhodiola Rosea which I can't praise it enough it is an unbelievable plant and since taking it I have not had a panic attact or palpitation since this was some 9mths ago now and I still haven't touched a cigarette or cannabis and still take Rhodiola Rosea, the russian variety is the best there is alot of different forms of the plant available some not as good as others. I thought I would signup and shared this with you lot hope it helps someone else out there. Happy Christmas all
 
  Melissa(GBG39250)  Posted: 28/12/2005 20:18
I feel like ai am lossing my mind. I have had palpitations for years but nothing like the last couple of weaks. I am 33 years old and have them every couple of minutes. I have been to the ER and the cardiologist. Every time they do an ekg nothing shows. The just did the holter but I do not have the tests back. They put me on a beta blocker but I had an reaction to it. So no luck there. They keep telling me it is anxiety. I dont feel any until I get 20 heart palps in an Hour.It is distroying my life. I cant do anything without having them. Even typing this I have probably had 10. Please help me???????????
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 03/01/2006 12:36
I have had palps..i will get them for a couple of months and then they will go away completely. But then 2 or 3 months go by and i have them again. Its horrible..do you know what could be causing this? ty
 
  marnia  Posted: 03/01/2006 20:12
To Melissa..please don't panic...one of the things I was told after a couple of BAD incidents was that they are not life-threatening..and I was told don't panic or get scared...a lot easier said than done.. even after all the tests that showed that at 64 years old my heart was normal.. I was still very frightened..after some trial and error so far medication appears to have them under control..but I still feel they are going to start again...for months the anticipation alone was ruling my life..I was afraid to go asleep..but would wake up next morning surprised that I was still alive...its awful and takes a long time to get your confidence back..as each day goes by I seemed to think about them less..and at Christmas I was so busy with family events..that I found I had'nt taken too much notice of them at all! With some people Xmas stress makes them worse..I can understand and empathise with you..only people who go through it understand ..the only way I found helped me was to find out EVERYTHING I possibly could about this awful thing that ruled my life..finding this site and reading all the stories and ideas helped enormously..we have all been through it and are here to tell our tales.
 
  Nick  Posted: 04/01/2006 20:34
Hi folks.... It is sure good to be able to read these messages and identify with all of you who suffer these aweful conditions. As you might have seen from some of my earlier messages, I have the problem under control. My plan worked for ME. As I type this, I am at the airport in Vancouver, BC waiting for my flight to Hawaii. We are going to Maui for rest and relaxation. I couldn't have done this trip a year ago. I was paralyzed by the palps. I feared each night that I would die. I have now been nearly clear of them since July. I only get minor palps when I really push myself. Ie... to little sleep and too much work and stress over stuff. There is a saying in Hawaii... Maui oka noi (Maui is the best!) There are terrific healing powers on the Island. I'm certainly going to tap them! Nick
 
  George(NIV39780)  Posted: 06/01/2006 17:03
For those looking for dietary modifications toward better heart health, I would suggest looking at the "Dash Diet" http://www.dashdiet.org/ . This dietary approach not only reflects common sense, but also has the benefit of being medically sound, and many diets, including those that advocate removing ALL fats, are not. I simply cannot express strongly enough that ill advised diet plans can be dangerous! Personnally, I have found aloe vera soft gels helpful in getting rid of palpitations (see my post under "Palpitations Revisited"). I have also seen others recommending CoQ10. I think that is also a safe and possibly effective substance, althought I wouldn't go over 120mg/day with it, since some medical professionals feel it can destabilize clotting. Nevertheless, the list of its possible benefits (discovered through reputable medical research studies) are astounding. I have also seen hawthorne recommended, but I would be cautious with that since I don't know a whole lot about it. Many of these substances desperately cry out for further testing. Too bad they are being largely ignored by the research community.
 
  Mick  Posted: 08/01/2006 14:48
I have been on Flecanide for 3 months now and no palps! However, I get a pain that radiates down my neck and into my shoulder and feel nausious all the time. I have been back to the doc several times and have now been referred back to the cardiologist. I was wondering if it was the Flecanide? Anone experience the same? I am now thinking would I be better off the Flecanide and put up with the palps!! Take care all Mick
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 09/01/2006 17:18
I decided to come back on and give a little update. I do not want to scare anyone but if your doctor is telling you it is only anxiety and you STRONGLY feel it is not, go with your gut and have them give you a heart monitor device of some kind to see if they can capture the irregular heartbeats. I'm 25 years old and back in August I started getting racing heartbeats at night along with palpitations during the day. Everyone kept telling me it was just anxiety and suggested counseling. Well finally they did the King of Hearts monitor on me and I found out last week that I do have an arrhythmia called PSVT and they have to do a echo to find out if there is anything else wrong. They put me on Beta Blockers and I really hope I don't have to be on them the rest of my life. However, it is better than not knowing and feeling crazy because no one knows what is wrong with me. Again, I'm not trying to scare anyone. I'm just suggesting that you do all the tests if you feel like your irregular heartbeat is more than just anxiety. My doctor did say that when I have episodes of the PSVT I then go into panic mode which brings on an anxiety attack. However, the PSVT as far as I know is NOT caused by anxiety. Best wishes to everyone and if anyone knows more about PSVT I would appreciate some more info about it. Does anyone know if it ever goes away? How dangerous it is? I've been doing research, but I still haven't found enough answers.
 
  Melissa(GBG39250)  Posted: 11/01/2006 23:48
Thank you for your words of kindness. This website is the only thing I have found for support. Since I last wrote I have been back for a 24 hour monitor and there were hundreds of readings of palps on there. They did not tell me what kind they are just that to take Digoxin and come back for an echo and strest test. The digoxin is scary everything I have read about it. It made me have double vision the third day I took it.After about 5 days it seemed to be helping and I even went two days with no palps at all now I have been sick with the flu running a fever for 6 days. Today is they first day I have felt better and the palps are back all the time again its like I am starting over from square 1 and It is really scary. I have these weired feelings of inpending doom. Like everytime I have a palp my heart is not going to restart.I have 5 kids and a husband that dont know what to think. I am a very active person I coach sports but ever since this has started I cant even go to the store without having a crazy amount of palps. Some people say you have to learn to live with themor they are normal. I am sorry your heart feeling like it is flipping around in your chest is not normal. Sny Help or Suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you, Melissa
 
  marnia  Posted: 12/01/2006 15:13
Hi again Melissa..glad to hear from you again and hear about your experiences..we have all been there and understand your fear and frustration...I too was prescribed Digoxin and thought that it would solve the problem but within a few days I was back to square one again and back in A&E..I was so disappointed and depressed..I'm on meds for asthma and some of them, because they dilate blood vessels, can also CAUSE fibs..so they kept me in for a few days..took me off all meds and started over..I now take Emcor and so far so good..but I still get an odd skipped beat...I think like a lot of people I probably always had the skipping but now because I am more concious ( I would say sometimes paranoid)of my heart and what its doing I watch every beat it makes at times. Sometimes that skipped beat seems to take forever to get right again..but in fact it is really just a second or two..but I am exhausted with the fright and shake like a leaf. I wish I could give you the solution to solve it for you..we all have to go our own routes with diet and medication and trial and error.. but each case is as unique as the person who has the problem..lifestyle, day-to-day stresses, general health..all have a part to play in the condition and the solution..so don't be too depressed..there is an answer..just give it time..keep a note of when and how long and in what circumstances they occur..go back to your GP AND INSIST ON FURTHER TESTS AND MONITORING UNTIL YOU HAVE A SOLUTION...dont 'feel silly' or a 'bother' ..its something thats effecting your life seriously..and thats what your doctor is there for..If it were one of your children who had an illness wouldn't you turn heaven and earth upsidedown....so do the same for you... all good wishes..hope you feel well again soon.
 
  spud  Posted: 12/01/2006 18:07
i have found this site very helpfull so thanks but am still unsure of whats going on,i am a 29 year old female..what startede as a bowel pronlem has now led in to much more,i have been under a bowel consultant for around a year and a half and had numerous tests carried out which have ruled out common bowel disaese such as crohns colitis etc,however i have now been suffering from heart palpatations over the last 6 months,i had realy strange symptoms including twitching of my arm and a feeling like blood was rushing to my head,shortness of breath and heart palps,i attened my gp who said my blood pressure was high and wanted me to do 24 hour bp monitoring however before this happened i took ill and had to be admitted to casualty and then on to a heart monitor etc on a ward,i was then allowed home and attached to 24ecg monitor and had scan etc done on my heart,at time of writing this i am awaiting the results of this and have aslo been forwarded to see a cardiologist aswell as my regualr bowel consualtant, i am still however suffering these smpytoms at home while i await the results,my docotr has mentioned the vagus nerve but never gave me much insite to it !!anyone esle with any ideas of whats causing it!ang
 
  Nick  Posted: 12/01/2006 22:05
Mick I would be very cautious with that drug. Flecanide (brand name Tambocor) is a Class IC antiarrhythmic drug that works by blocking sodium channels. It is highly effective in suppressing PVCs and ventricular tachycardia and is also sometimes used for atrial fibrillation. Its use is contraindicated in persons with underlying heart disease as there is an increased mortality in this population. The package insert quotes a 4 - 10% proarrhythmic effect but it is probably somewhat less than that in general use. From what you are describing, I would think that the doctors should be suspecting blockages in at least two arteries to your heart. I would insist on a "dye" test. If they refuse, get another doctor! Spud, Anxiety would be a huge problem for you at this point. We have all been there. You might try asking the doctor for Rhythmol (also know as propaphenone). I started on 150 MG three times a day. THAT gave me the piece of mind to relax a bit. It stopped the palps immmediately. I then began walking lots and eating properly. I upped my magnesium (with no calcium) to about 600 -750 mg per day. Taken two or three times though the day. A deficiency in Magnesium will cause palps. Magnesium is depleted by a number of things... like not enough sleep, too much stress etc. I have now cut the Rythmol back to once a day. I take it at night just before bed... because that is when I had the most trouble. Right after lying down ... or often at 3 in the morning. Soon, I expect to cut out the medication completely. I seriously doubt that the two conditions you have are directly connected. If you want to eliminate the bowel problems, take Aloe GEL as suggested by another poster on this group. It has wonderful success in eliminating Crohn's and ulcers etc... The weight lifters take it in our local gyms. They are all pumping themselves with all kinds of strong chemicals and the Aloe Gel prevents their stomaches from getting ulcerated. What kind of shape are you in? Over or under weight? Do you get enough sleep? Are you in a stress job? What do you eat? Where do you get your water from? It would be good to know more about this .. since it helps others who have palps to paint the picture. Somewhere in all this there is a pattern. When we find it, we will find the cure. The doctors are only interested in providing "releif from symptoms". Remember that.
 
  Mary  Posted: 13/01/2006 08:43
spud, I may sound like a broken recod but oif your bowel problem consisted of diarrhea then that and the palps combined with twitching of the and a feeling like blood rushing to the head & shortness of breath sound to me like it could be a thyroid problem
 
  spud  Posted: 13/01/2006 19:13
Hi mary and nik thanks for the feedback,in answer to your question first nik i am overwieight and am currently working on this,my job is not stressful in any means but my sleep pattern is fine ,the only medicine i take at the moment are amitriptaline which my doctor prescribed for dizzy turns i was having ,i have already spoken to a doctor previuosly to see if they think it was panic attacks/anxiety however they have ruled this out as some of the symptoms are simialiar but not all of them,i have been tested for all bowel diseases such as crohns,colitis etc but to no avail the only thing showing is swelling of the bowel in which they have ruled out ibs,my doctor has also ran tests to check for thryriod trouble and this has proved inconclusive!has any heard of these symptoms being linked to the vagus nerve and if so would be grateful for any feeback on thsis,once again i would like to thank people for posting replies to my queries
 
  Mags  Posted: 13/01/2006 19:14
My palpitations started when i was starting the menopause. I put it down to that at first but they scared me so much i fast tracked to the cardiologist where i worked. He was reassuring and said my ecg echo and everything was ok and that it probably was just ectopics. However the Holter monitor showed runs of atrial fibrillation when i was asleep. This really upset me especially when i tried different medicines with no effect and sometimes they made it worse.....something called proarrythmia. He referred me to a cardiologist with special interest in arrthymias. I told him my story. The palpitations only happened at night when i went to bed and most frequently when i was lying on my left side. My pulse rate would be slow.....around 56 perminute at these times. The palpitations would be preceded by ectopics.. you know the big somersault feeling. Sometimes if i bent down it would trigger an attack. They would last usually an hour but the carry on in my chest frightened the life out of me. Bang bang bang totally irregular(which is a characteristic of af) It was vert fast. My own GP thought i was stressed out and put me on a very tiny dose of Prothiaden(antidepressant). Lo and behold the palps disappeared. Genius i said to my new cardiologist. Not quite he said. I have what is known as vagally induced af and the anticholingeric effect of the prothiaden had calmed the vagus nerve. There is a really great website devoted to vagal atrial fibrillation and it really restored my sanity. People with vagal af should not be given digoxin or beta blockers because it makes it worse. He started me on a tablet called Rhymodan or Disopyramide and it was just magical. Such relief after all the scary times. I got none at all for a year and eventually persuaded him to let me take it only when i needed it. I Know my triggers. spicy food MSG ALCOHOL EATING LATE AT NIGHT AND EATING LARGE PORTIONS. If i take a tablet which is slow release before a party or a drink it will stop it happening. I still get the occassional episode but if they get frequent i will take the meds regularly again. i hope this has helped someone. PLEASE PLEASE ALWAYS HAVE YOURSELF CHECKED OUT. the website is called the vagal af portal google will find it for you if you need it.
 
  Nick  Posted: 14/01/2006 02:45
Mags, Your experience was EXACTLY like mine. Lying on left side was a trigger. Sometimes when I bent over it would also trigger. My fix was Rhythmol. I think it is a calcium channel blocker. I am coming up to about 8 months now free of A Fib. I get some minor breath throughs... but not A Fib. Just big thumps and beats... usually when I have over done it. I eat smaller meals and more often now. I use Aloe Gel to keep the digestive track free of problems. Nick.
 
  marnia  Posted: 15/01/2006 22:09
Thanks Mags for the info re that Vagal AF site..read it and got a lot of info that made a lot of sense and answered lots of questions..recomend it to all of you...
 
  Mary  Posted: 16/01/2006 09:32
While aloe gel may help with the symptoms of Chrons' it will not cure it. Chrons is an autoimmune problem. Ulcers are cased by the H. Pylori bacterium so again while aloe migth help, only the elimination of the baterium will solve the problem. Aloe is however very good for stomach upsets caused by excess acid I believe.
 
  daisy  Posted: 17/01/2006 16:33
I'm 32yrs and I started experiencing really bad palps in Sept 05, since then I've had holter monitor, ecg, TOE, abilation (didn't work) and now on beta blockers. I've been told I have something called "Ebsteins Anomaly" and was wondering if anyone else has this condition? also I have been advised against flying, can anyone offer any advice? Thanks
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 18/01/2006 14:34
I want to scream!! I feel like I am getting nowhere and nothing is working. I was recently diagnosed with PSVT. They put me on a beta blocker which increased my palpitations and made me very short of breath. Then they put me on 180 mg of Verapamil (calcium channel blocker) and the palpitations and PSVT still continued. Now they have me on 240 mg of Verapamil and I have to see if it is going to work. I feel crazy. I want this to stop!! I feel like my doctor thinks I'm crazy too. But I'm only 25 and I keep getting skipped beats at least 10 times nearly every day (they hurt) and occasional episodes of PSVT. I really hate the fact that I'm on medicine though I'm grateful they have medication to treat this disorder. Does anyone have any idea how effective calcium channel blockers are at preventing PSVT and palps or if it is riskier to take them? I want to listen to my doctor but I feel like nothing is working!!!!!!!!
 
  Nick  Posted: 18/01/2006 19:47
Rhonda, Have you read all of the posts here? Many people have had similar experiences from time to time. Things that people have tried include; No caffein diet, stay hydrated, get lots of rest (ie never let yourself get tired), take CoQ10 (75 mg twice a day), increase your magnesium to 500 mg per day, and ask your doctor about Rhythmol. It is more effective than the one you are on, though more costly. Dinking cammomile tea (decafinated) also helps calm the vagus nerve in case it is vagal related. This is just a summary of what we have all discussed over the past few years. You should really take the time to read every post. It is the world's largest collection of palp sufferers and a wealth of data and experience. Nick.
 
  Nina(GQP40600)  Posted: 19/01/2006 20:15
I didn't realize until I registered that this was a website from Ireland! Well, I was certainly glad to read all of these posts and learn about so many other people with my same symptoms and same really unsatisfying response from doctors. I, too experience these palpitations occasionally - especially when stressed (I'm a real worrier) and doing too much caffeine. I think it is also related to menopause. I have had two episodes - the first one wa about 5 years ago. I went to the ER and was on a heart monitor for a month (doctor put me on a beta blocker which didn't help much - I got pregnant and had to go off hte beta blocker but apparently the pregnancy hormones stopped the palpitations completely!) and the second was last summer - on a heart monitor for a month again. I have removed coca cola, coffee and caffeinated tea from my diet. I drink herbal tea or decaf (Twinings English breakfast decaf tastes pretty close to the real thing!) I also take yoga twice a week. I learned something shocking - I believe that fish oil supplements and evening primrose - which I was taking to balance my hormones - caused this last round of palpitations that I had last summer. I noticed that I had forgotten to take the primrose oil and the palpitations suddenly stopped. I was still taking fish oil and actually increased the dosage. They got so bad the doctor put me on the heart monitor again. My husband happened to read an article about an experimental trial where doctors were giving patients with dangerous irregular heart rhythms high dosages of fish oil. THe trial was discontinued because a number of patients actually suffered fatal arrhythmias. I threw out my fish oil supplements immediately and within about 1 - 2 weeks my palpitations were gone. I get them once and a while and am having a few while typing this. Not sure why. Hope this helps someone.
 
  Marie  Posted: 22/01/2006 01:39
I have just finished reading the posts. Hmm... it is consoling knowing we are not alone. And at the same time I feel empathy for all of your concerns and fears. i am a 42 year old female, in remarkable physical condition, and I have had ectopic beats for the past 9 years. They have increased in frequency from a few a day, to many every minute. so when i read that someone is concerned about 10 a day, i think, wow, i wish i only had 10 a day, instead of 5 - 10 every minute. I am not on meds, and this is my choice. I find exercise helps decrease the frequency and also helps to relax me. I have taken omega 3 for years and have recently started taking omega 6 and 9 also. Magnesium upsets my stomach, so i can't take more than 200mg a day. i eat very healthy and drink only distilled water. Deep breathing also seems to help. And i also have digestion problems, which many of you have complained about, interesting.... i wonder if there is a correlation. Or, perhaps the anxiety r/t the irregular beats is one culprit. The mind is extremely powerful. I have found that with concentration, meditation and deep breathing i can slow my heart rate and the frequency of the irregular beats. But one cannot maintain this state all the time. It is not a fun place to be, but we have to try and remain positive. Negativity and depression can damage the heart and i have read studies that support this. Happiness and endorphins heal and restore. And, notice when you are distracted you do not stress about them as much. It can be a downward spiral if we let it. I have more irregular heart rhythms than most of you and i am still alive and i exercise, go dancing, travel, and much more .... so please do try and remain positive..., not to minimize what we are going through but there are worse health conditions one can have after all. Marie
 
  George(NIV39780)  Posted: 23/01/2006 21:25
Marie, actually some researchers have noted a connection between gastro intestinal issues and palpitations. They speculate that some gastro intestinal bacteria (perhaps h pylori) is somehow causing inflamation in the heart which is resulting in palpitations. Actually, I recall seeing some study that found that a much higher proportion of palpitation sufferers where infected with h pylori than which a control group of palpitation free individuals. My own personal speculation is that much of the scope of cardio vascular disease and metabolic syndrome has its roots in some sort of infamation syndrome. As I have said in earlier posts, I have found relief from aloe vera soft gels and now, after ten months on them, my blood pressure is in a steady decline. Ten months ago, I was routinely seeing diastolic measurements in excess of 110. Now I have discontinued one of the two hypertension medications and seldom get diastolic readings over 90. They are currently averaging around 85. To have this occur in addition to getting rid of the palpitations has made me ecstatic. I had lost all hope of ever getting control of either one. In my case, at least, I am convinced that the common root of both problems is likely inflamation and the aloe has alleviated that.
 
  Nina(GQP40600)  Posted: 24/01/2006 01:04
Marie - When I stopped taking fish oil supplements (same for cod liver oil and omega fatty acids), my palpitations stopped. The last episode I had began when I began taking these supplements. I have no problems when I eat lots of fish of all kinds. You might want to give it a try. I'm not a doctor, just a 46-year old mother of two living in Aurora, Colorado, USA. I've had two lengthy, very frightening episodes of PVCs (went to emergency room, EKG, wore heart monitor, etc.) I wish you the best. Nina
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 24/01/2006 23:37
I have been experiencing an increasing amount of palpitations in the last 6 months. Some days are worse then others. At times I can have 4 or 5 a day or on a bad day 2 or 3 an hour. I have recently been diagnosed as having low ferritin levels. I am currently on iron supplements and think I am starting to notice an improvement in the frequency of the palpitations. I am also a worrier, have suffered anxiety and panic over the years. My question is this, can just thinking about or anticipating the next palpitation cause them? What about being tired or pms? I often have them at night which makes me unable to sleep because I lay awake worrying about them.
 
  George(NIV39780)  Posted: 25/01/2006 00:14
Marie, I would have to agree with Nina on the fish oil, omega fatty acid supplements. It would be easy to stop them for a few weeks and see if that stops the palpitations. There might be some sort of allergic connection whereby the fish oil is causing the problem. It would be easy to rule that out by stopping it for a while.
 
  Marie  Posted: 25/01/2006 01:31
Thanks Nina and George. George i will try the aloe. I actually have some in my fridge. I am glad to hear you are doing better. Nina - I have read numerous studies that show strong evidence that omega 3 and 6 reduce the risk of dangerous hearth rhythms. Apparently, they are stored in the cell membranes of cardiac cells and play a role in controlling sodium and calcium channels which can affect the rhythm of the heart. They are also good in so many other ways - I cannot see them doing harm, but we all respond individually so one never knows. We also have to be careful about the quality of the suppliments we are taking. My cardiologist assures me my problem is not serious, but the frequency of them can be frightening at times and also quite annoying. I have a long family history of irregular heart beats - so my fate may be sealed, but i do believe that I have some control. There are some good readings about irregular heart beats on the american heart association web site. http://www.albatuna.com/Info/Omegas.htm - and check out this site for info on omega 3 and the heart. MARIE
 
  George(NIV39780)  Posted: 25/01/2006 20:22
Marie, please be aware that there are significant differences between bottled aloe gel and aloe soft gels. 1) Bottled aloe is fresh whereas the aloe contained in soft gels is cooked. Cooking actually changes some of the medicinal qualities of the substance. 2) Bottled aloe is filtered to remove some of the most bitter components. The soft gels include these components. Some of these components have been shown to be highly beneficial. 3) Bottled aloe is in its natural water based state. The aloe in soft gels is reconstituted in a fatty base for better absorbsion. 4) Bottled aloe is in its natural concentration. Aloe soft gels contain aloe concentrated 200:1. The soft gels are produced by a number of companies and are pretty much uniformly formulated. They are widely available and very affordable in the US. I don't know about abroad. The bottles all recommend 3 soft gels a day. I found 2 a day to be effective for me.
 
  Rachel(CPA40943)  Posted: 26/01/2006 06:09
I am 32 years old and for the past two weeks have had pretty much all day palpitations. So are flutters and some are ectopic. The day before all this started I had a all day episode of tachycardia (racing heartbeat). I have a history of rhuematic fever as a child and have had extensive heart tests as a teen. All results came back pretty good aside from a small heart murmur. Over the years I have had palpitations now and then, but just 1 or 2 every couple of months...very few. Now of course I am very anxious about what this means. I am generally an anxious person....terribly frightened of doctors. I do have an appt to see my GP next week but I just know that sitting in his office will make my heart race with nerves and he probably won't be able to hear a thing thru his stethoscope. So frustrating and embarrassing...really! Reading this discussion group has been quite informative and somewhat reassuring. Feels good to know you aren't alone!
 
  Angie  Posted: 26/01/2006 18:56
I keep reading about palpitations with tachycardia. I have palpitations with bradycardia - does anyone else have this?
 
  Nick  Posted: 27/01/2006 04:15
I had palps with bradicardia. My resting pulse is 44. It drops to 39 when I am sleeping. (My wife says I don't sleep.... I hibernate!) And I had palps. See my other posts. Nick.
 
  Jeff  Posted: 29/01/2006 01:38
for those suffering from palputations you are truely not alone. I am 34 years old, live in London, very fit and healthy. My first attack was on a train coming back from a stag weekend. Yes.. I drank too much over that weekend but not OVER the top. The train was empty.. my palms started to sweat and I felt dizzy.. my heart was going like the clappers and I think this brought on more of a panic attack.. I was seriously scared and though I was going to die on the train. I managed to get home and went to A&E.. ECG was ok.. although the chap that saw me noted a possible condition called WPW. After researching this it made me panic, this condition can cause sudden death in some cases.. usually younger people. After the normal tests, including 24 hour tape.. I'm now moving to another test which I was rather hoping someone on this site might have mentioned but haven't.. anyone carried out the "Tilt Test" before.. please let me know.. mine is next week.. I was told by my cardio specialist that clinching your fists and raising your legs helps.. I'm up now.. at 1:41am because I'm not looking forward to going to bed and potentially having those bugging heart palps attack tonight.. YOU ARE NOT ALONE.. take care Jeff
 
  Rachel(CPA40943)  Posted: 29/01/2006 01:50
Since my previous post, I have been taking a magnesium supplement since researching on the net that they can help with proper heart rhythms. Incidently, I have suffered from leg/foot cramps most of my adult life and magnesium is supposed to help these too. My palps are very much less frequent since taking the magnesium. Not sure if it's a placebo effect, coincidence or really helping!
 
  Ty  Posted: 30/01/2006 13:53
Toronto - Healthy 35 yr old male. Had palpitations 5 years ago, and went for all tests including echo cardiogram...run 3 miles a day, usually feel extra beats or flutters when sitting or when I first lie down at night. It is very uncomfortable, and worries me. No pain at all, and no shortness of breath...just concern!! The palapitations have started again over the past few weeks (I hadn't really noticed them for a couple years). Went to the doctor, and had an ECG, blood work etc. Had a full stress test and chest x-ray last year at a special physical exam. No strange results. Blood pressure is normal, but elevates when I see the doctor. I am sick of worrying about this, and want to enjoy my life! I find it impossible to ignore, because it is such an odd feeling. It only last a couple seconds, but startles me. I do seem to have more frequent attacks if I have been out late, and had alcohol the previous evening. I also stress about my health, which is a cause of palpitations...My doctor told me last week that he gets them to (feels them into his throat) and to stop worrying...I am trying, but they keep happening, and I can't shake the fear! Anyone have any tips or suggestions??
 
  Jeff  Posted: 30/01/2006 16:29
TY - I am in a similar situation. I was told not to fight the feeling, and to clinch my fists and elevate my legs.. the more you fight it the worse it gets. I find it very hard to relax generally.. fed up with it but try to be positive and think back to this website.. I was so surprised to hear of so many people with the same problem..
 
  Taylor(FMR41141)  Posted: 30/01/2006 17:23
Thanks Jeff - I am trying to put it out of my mind, but as you know, evenings at rest are the worst. The only comfort I take is that any research I have done seems to support the fact that these palpitations are usually benign...especially given the tests I have had over the years and recently...I also believe that those more likely to worry about their health will take greater notice, and usually the problem compounds itself through worry and fear...also, waiting for it to happen contibutes to higher incidence...My doctor told me that almost everyone has at least a few palpitations in a 24 hour period...some notice, and some don't! I appreciate your advice...it does sound like we are in a similar situation!! Thanks.
 
  Jeff  Posted: 30/01/2006 18:05
TY - I'm waiting for a "Tilt Test" - check it out.. you might need the same. Jeff
 
  Marie  Posted: 31/01/2006 02:22
Thank you George for the aloe suggestion. I have started taking it, and I do notice some relief right afterwards - it calms my stomach and hence my heart as well. And it tastes quite good. Well, naturally, we all have to deal with our problems in a way that works for us, and of course not all irregular rhythms are the same. However, i will share something that works for me. After I saw the movie "what the bleep do we know" i decided to try and bring down my HR during exercise, by controling my thoughts. Usually my HR goes up to 180 - 200 as soon as i start my cardio,a nd it takes forever to get it down. but for the past few months I am stable between 136 - 150 during a medium cardio routine. I simply tell myself repeatedly my heart rate will be low, or i say a rate repeatedly in my mind - and it works. the panic that ofen ensues during an episode will spiral us down and make the condition worse. i do believe positive thoughts make a difference. .. but you have to believe it. And drinking good water helps me also. Some people beleive water can carry those thoughts to the atomic level ... well, ok, this is one Janapnese guy who photographs frozen water crystals after saying different things to the water --- but who knows... eastern medical philosophy would have us belief we can self heal and that we can also cause our own disease. I believe there is something to this. i am a mental health nurse. I work in the area of health promotion. Before this role i used to work with palliative patients in the community - mostly cancer. Those with a positive outlook had more positive outcomes. If they believed they were doomed - they were. I have seen it time and time again. We have more control than we realize. Meditation, controling thoughts, relaxing through deep breathing and positive self talk so that the panic doesn't start - will make a difference in many cases. consider alternative approaches in addition to traditional ones. Marie
 
  fifi  Posted: 31/01/2006 12:08
people can suffer palpitations from too much caffeine or a diet high in fat. On the other hand, people who indulge in vigorous activity can also suffer from them. Fit athlethes often suffer from them.
 
  Rachel(CPA40943)  Posted: 31/01/2006 20:51
Just following up on my previous post. Was at my GP's today. He wasn't overly concerned about the palps. Said that women can get them due to hormones, stress etc. He did send me for full bloodwork to check my mineral levels, sugars, thyroid etc. Sure hope this is the end of all of the worrying!
 
  Elizabeth(LJV41276)  Posted: 01/02/2006 12:42
I have been suffering with PAC's and PVC's since September 2003. I am a very healthy 43 year old and have no other medical issues. I have seen 2 cardiologists, had numerous tests all to be told I have benign ectopic beats. Occassionally I have bigeminy (an ectopic every other beat)which feels awful. Many of my symptoms are triggered by changing positions e.g twisting my body, bending down even brushing my hair can set them off. They seem to plague me for a couple of months then suddenly disappear for a while before gradually returning. I find trying to live with this hard. I have lost much confidence, find it difficult to be positive and live in fear of a bad attack. My life has changed beyond all recognition. I have tried beta blockers which didn't help and I think it may have even made things worse.I am at a loss to know what to do. I took comfort from Marie's posting and I hope to be where she is some day. Apart from reading about everyone's experiences I do not know of anyone amongst my friends with this and at times, feel very alone. Doctors who encourage patients to ignore benign palpitations really have no idea of the mental challenge this presents. Where heart issues are concerned there is much publicity and coverage of heart disease but distressed sufferers of palpitations rarely get a mention.
 
  Nick  Posted: 02/02/2006 03:18
Elizabeth, I don't know what beta blockers you used but really... before you give up, try Rhythmol. It really worked for me. Also use aloe gel. It helps. The big thing is the confidence comes back onece you can string some weeks together with no symptoms. Nick.
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 02/02/2006 18:07
Nick- Yes, I have read through all the posts. Sorry if I was too intense, I was just very frustrated. It's very annoying being passed off from doctor to doctor and they all tell you different things. Currently I'm on a slow release pill called Cardizem, another calcium channel blocker. It seems to be working ok. I'm going to start taking magnesium and doing Yoga so hopefully that will help too. Jeff- I can relate to your experience. When I was first diagnosed with PSVT I was very concerned that it could be tied into WPW syndrome. And WPW syndrome does sound very frightening but I heard it can be many times cured with Ablation. Yesterday I saw an electrophysiologist who reassured me that I probably don't have WPW although I do have a form of a reentry tachyardia. I'm still nervous but I'm putting it in the hands of God. I would ask your doctor if you can get a heart monitor called the King of Hearts. It is not a 24 hour monitor, you can keep it for up to a month. Whenever you have an attack of racing heart or palpitations you press this button that records the incident. This was how the doctors discovered I had PSVT and not panic disorder. I'm learning that while PSVT is very annoying, it is usally not life-threatening. If you are getting episodes of a racing heart that occur spontaneously you might have PSVT and there is a good chance it is not associated with WPW. And even if you do have WPW, it is treatable! Good luck!
 
  Marie  Posted: 02/02/2006 20:48
Elizabeth, I hear you. I don't persnally know anyone with a heart problem either. It can feel very lonely indeed. Yet, statistically, there are many of us, and we do need support. Remember, your condition is not serious. You have what I have. I don't know... perhaps our personalities or ways in which we cope with stress are conrtibuting factors. Even if you have bigeminy from time to time, you are still having "extra beats" - just more of them. Try not to be alarmed - this is not a critical arrhythmia. Try to relax and they should decrease in frequency. Be catiuos of anti arrhythmic medicatins. They are wonderful if you absolutely need them, and many of us do, however, extra beats, on their own, do not normally require medication. For our condition the side effects may be worse than what we are experiencing now. Luckily, I have a cardiologist who also agrees with this. It could be metabolic. Check your TSH, as well as t3 and t4 (do a search if you are not sure what these are), have your ferritin levels checked and hemoglobin level. Have the lab also test your Mg, blood glucose and b12 levels. These are very important. If they do a general blood analysis with some of the extras i mentioned above, this will be very helpful to you. Go to your doctor and insist these tests are done, if they have not already been done. This is a good starting point. Let us know how it goes. And do be positive and find ways to care for you ... Cut out all stimulants (though i do cheat sometimes - love chocolate), get plenty of sleep and EXERCISE. Take Care. Marie
 
  Mary  Posted: 03/02/2006 10:34
reentry tachyardia? Is this a heart murmur?
 
  Jeff  Posted: 03/02/2006 10:52
Rhonda The cardiologist did recommend the 7 day monitor but the idea fizzled out for some reason. I had been fine for a week or so until I went out with a friend for a few drinks.. I should have known better.. now for the last 2 days I haven't been able to relax and have that awful feeling of "it's going to kick in at any time now", even now I'm at work tapping away feeling uneasy and I feel a little dizzy and disorientated. Last night I really needed a decent nights sleep, took a little night nurse to help me a long the way and it didn't happen. My head hit the pillow and all I could hear and feel was the pumping of my heart. My tilt test is booked for the 15th Feb.. it will be interesting to see what results come back from this.. need some closure on this. Take care all...
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 03/02/2006 15:02
Mary- Well, I was told I have a slight heart murmur as well as PSVT-which is a form of rentrant tachyardia. There is a link for anyone who is interested and may think they have this... http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/1998/01_98/karas.htm Jeff- Yeah, avoid alcohol! Actually, I was told it is ok to have an occasional glass of red wine but don't overindulge. I know one night when I went out drinking I had one of the worst PSVT attacks I've ever had. I too have trouble sleeping-If I lay on my left side I hear my heart, sometimes with skipped beats, and I get all paranoid. I find that laying on my back or on my right side helps...Plus I read until I'm too tired to even care. I notice too that when I'm extremely nervous about them happening, then they happen. It's very annoying. Good luck with the tilt test. I'm sure everything will be ok.
 
  Jeff  Posted: 03/02/2006 16:11
Mary, Thank that.. I did over do it with the drink.. more mixing rather than the amount. I naturally sleep on my right side so maybe that's why I don't suffer quite as badly as others sometimes. I'm in quite a stressful job.. I'm a head-hunter so I was wondering if stress is a trigger too.. but to be honest I don't feel this is really the cause at all.. I'll keep you posted with the result from the Til Test.. take care
 
  Ty  Posted: 03/02/2006 21:26
I had a friend who died of WPW while on a bus in France at the age of 19...Nearly 15yrs ago and I still think about it..I can tell you that he had NO symptoms, and may have been able to survive had he received medical attention sooner...very sad story. What I do know is that the presenting symptoms of WPW are not ectopic beats, more common would be tachyardias, fainting, chest pain etc...but often no symptoms. In other words, worrying about ectopic sensations naturally leads you down the path of hours on the internet, and self diagnosis while researching the problem...naturally you will discover links to WPW. However, it is important to keep perspective on the issue, and if you have been through the appropriate medical tests (especially ECG for WPW diagnosis) odds are you are like millions of people who suffer from PVCs, Ectopic beats, and all variations of palpitations. Also, if properly diagnosed, WPW is very treatable... For me, my ectopic beats are random events, and create a sensation like a flutter which I can feel in my throat. There is rarely pain, or shortness of breath...stress and stimulants certainly contribute to the frequency...It just comes and goes, and I can't do anything to prevent it! As mentioned in a many previous posts, premature beats, and most palpitations are benign and very common...I hope this helps give a few people some peace of mind.
 
  denise(GVW40864)  Posted: 04/02/2006 15:53
How many palpitations do most people feel? Several a day? A week? I have days with 1 or 2 and other days with dozens. I have been taking iron supplements for iron deficiency, palpitations are a symptom, but after 2 months I'm still experiencing them. Does anyone out there know anything about low iron and palpitations and how long before I will see a difference.
 
  Nick  Posted: 05/02/2006 19:11
That is interesting Bill. Where I worked I had a coffee pot that I bought and brought in. I always had coffee on. I bought coffee in bulk and would generally drink three pots per day. That is three 20 ounce pots! And I liked it strong. I never found that it affected my sleep though. about 40 seconds after hitting the pillow, i was gone. I would sleep from 1 am to 5 am on weekdays and then on weekends, I'd sleep from mindnight Friday until 1 pm Saturday. I'd do the same on Saturday night. My family used to say I didn't sleep... I hibernated! However, it was at the end of a two year stint doing it this way that I developed palpitations. After dropping coffee, I had a massive headache for about three months. Now I just drink the odd cup of decaf coffee. I have the palps under control with magnesium, aloe gel, and rhythmol twice a day. N.
 
  Bill  Posted: 06/02/2006 11:00
Nick, what age are you. I think your sleep only can become a problem as you get odler and require less of it. It's a well known fact that teenageers can sleep through an earthquake.
 
  Nick  Posted: 06/02/2006 15:30
Bill, I just turned 51. It shows no signs of changing yet! If I was retired, I could work and play hard til 1 am then sleep for 12 hours every day. No problem.
 
  tash  Posted: 07/02/2006 13:16
I have suffered from palpatations on and off for seven years now,they dissapeared totally when i was pregnant with my first son,i am now pregnant again (2yrs later) and its the complete opposite i keep getting them and they end up turning into panic attacks. They start off with a fluutering feeling in my heart/chest,then my throat feels as if its being constricted,and i get breathless and dizzy as i start to panic to catch my breath. Now tihs happens anywhere anytime no particular reason triggers it off. Its extramly frightening especially as i am pregnant. I have had ECGs,blood tests and heart monitors and everything jhas come back ok,although i do have a slight "innocent heart mumour" but dont know if that would have anything to do with me keep getting theses palpations? I have been put onto beta blockers and vallium in the past,vallium works after about 20 mins which seems to stop the panic and palpations,but as ia m pregnant i cant take meds? I am very frightened,is anyone eles suffering form feelings like these especially whilst pregnant?
 
  JackOH  Posted: 07/02/2006 14:44
I have been aware aware that I had a heart problem since I was 55, I hear of palapatations but am not sure what they feel like. Can someone advise.
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 09/02/2006 15:37
Hey Tash-- Just to reassure you I know a few people who had more palpitations when they were pregnant. My cousin's girlfriend had a baby back in October and she told me that she was getting frequent palpitations. When I saw my electrophysiologist the other day, he told me that when women get pregnant if they have had palps or PSVT before, the symptoms get worse during pregnancy. I don't think it's anything serious to worry about, but I would talk to a doctor about it. I'm sure it is just your hormones. He also said that women get palps more during their monthly cycle as well. Hormone fluctations can mess with your heart. But I would not be overly concerned.
 
  naturegal  Posted: 10/02/2006 20:39
i am a female 50 yrs old and i have been getting palpitaions for about 7 yrs now, they were so bad they last for 8 hrs or more very intense shaking of the chest and painful at times, i even get blackouts momentarily, thanst because when the heart races like that it stops the circulation to the brain for a moment, i went to several drs they gave me beta blockers . kept me in the hospital for days, never gave me a cure or said anything was wrong with my heart , had all the tests,, so i finally went to a nutritionist it turned out i was lacking many things like potassium, magnesium, vit e. and many other things, had blood work done brought it to him and he saw everthing there i needed right from the blood work. american drs wont tell you that u lack these things cause theres no money it for them, drugs are the way to go according to them. i am feeling much better, dont get them much , maybe 2 x a yr, its surely menepausel related because your hormones and everything are going in reverse ladies, also check your thyroid my thyroid was low . so i take natural thyroid now not fda approved crap that will kill you,, believe me the drs will never give youa cure people,, they never learned about nutrition in med school.. hope this was helpful
 
  Bill  Posted: 11/02/2006 09:34
naturegal, your story about being short of these chemicals is nonsense. The easing of your palpitations has nothing to do with supplements. You have the wrong end of the stick, its the sellers of these useless supplements that are ripping you off and not the doctors.
 
  naturegal  Posted: 11/02/2006 14:20
bill . i have to tell you first thing. i dont take chemicals, they are nutrients minerals and vitamins, the stuff the drs give u are chemicals, honestly now has a doctor ever given you a cure for anything? i dont think so,all they do is treat the symptom never a cure if they did they would be out of business . not in america any way, they give you chemicals drugs and send you home, until another problem occurs,then give you a stronger dose or new one on the market to sell, im sorry if i sound so neg against doctors i believe medicine has its place, and are helpful to save our lives on a daily basis in emergencies. in some cases, but when it simply comes to things about nutrition they dont have a clue, they never learned this in med school the pharmas companies are in charge here . its all about money not our health, i have listened to a medical nutritionist here in america on the radio for 6 yrs and he never sold a thing never asked his viewers to buy anything, he just telling everyone what was going on and being very truthful . he is a scientist, harvard scolar and worked for nasa, after getting no where with my doctors, and i have changed to many . i got disgusted and called him now its 2 yrs and im feeling better then i did at 40, dont believe the studies drs do about things like vit e they do studies on people who are already half dead and have no chance,, if you only knew what goes on , education is the way my friend , like i said i tried everything this works for me as well as my dad who is 77 and was said to be dead in a few mnths 4 yrs a go by doctors, thats another story, they also killed my mom with coumadin, after a stroke, i dont know if u live in america if you do then you should know how drs are here , there are not many good ones anymore like yrs ago when they genuinely took an interest and knew about nutrition back then its a different world now, all about money not people anymore im sorry to say, i would love to keep this conversation going, i have much to say, i dont critize any one or try to be a know it all, i am saying i have found my way to be ing healthier, and not taking any drugs, i walk everyday i still love sweets, i must stop them ,but i feel really good and at 40 i felt like crap i was taking fda drugs from the dr, and no results, im 50 and i feel great and am going thru menapause with out drugs,
 
  George(NIV39780)  Posted: 11/02/2006 19:58
To naturegal: I am very happy for you that in adjusting your nutritian via both whole foods and supplements you have found your palpitations and hopefully other problems resolved. And I salute you for having the courage to seek out help from a nutritionist. But I cannot agree at all with your assesment of doctors here in the US. I know too many of them that REFER their patients to nutritionists. And I would suggest that other people watching this forum REQUEST their physician to refer them to a registered dietitian. If the physician refuses, perhaps it is time to look for another physician. Remember, here in the US at least there are several different types of primary physicians. There are Family Practitioners, General Practitioners, Internal Medicine Practitioners and Osteopaths. All are bonafide medical professionals and some may be more sympathetic to natural approaches than others. It pays to check around and ask friends for recommendations. But a don't think a broad tirade against the medical profession in general is either called for or useful. Most docs are just doing their darndest to help their patients. While some are woefully ignorant when it comes to natural solutions, very few if any are actually malicious, intending harm to their patients so that they can make money. To imply that borders on slander and my advice is not to go there. The FDA also has a job to do. In some cases they are not very popular for it, but the job has to be done. Modern pharmacology has made our lives better in so many ways we should all be thankful rather than splitting hairs over its failings and yes it does have failings as do every other modern day profession. To Bill: I really can't believe your reply is serious. Most medical professionals these days recognize the importance of diet. It is common knowledge that some diseases (scurvy, rickets, etc.) are caused by dietary issues. And not all supplements are rip offs. Some are actually commodity items. Certainly a balanced diet approach is the best way to get nutricion, but how many doctors literally prescribe everything these days from calcium supplements to vitamins B and E. Your position is as extreme as naturegal's. Certainly there is no proof that one or more of the supplements naturegal is taking are actually helping her, but there is no proof to the contrary either. If I was a medical researcher (which I am not), I would certainly be curious as to what is going on in her situation and in the situation of many others who are posting here. And if I were a doctor (which I am not) I would be more concerned about any possible toxicities or potential drug interactions than about efficacy and cost effectiveness. After all naturegal is experiencing relief from symptoms for some reason and its HER money that shes paying for the supplements. So why be arrogant and elitist about it. Why not just admit that it doesn't make sense to you but who knows? Even if this is placebo effect, it certainly would seem that the supplements have a better placebo effect than the beta blockers which should count for something. Beta blockers are a great drug and they save countless lives but they (and other great drugs) are not the be all and end all. Most physicians would readily assent to that assertion. At the same time, I am not a huge advocate of alternative medicine. I really believe that alternative practitioners should be forced to put up or shut up. There theorapies (other than the off the wall stuff) should be subjected to full scientific scrutiny and the results made known to all the world. At the same time they should voluntarily be submitting their potions to organizations like USP for standardization and those potions should then be researched to see what they really can and can not do AND to make sure they are safe as formulated. But I am very convinced that there is some great stuff out there (hidden in all the garbage) that is being ignored by conventional folks simply because it has the stigma of 'alternative'.
 
  Jeff  Posted: 12/02/2006 01:30
Hi guys... just wanted to ask if anyone has gone through the "Tilt Test" before..? I'm going for mine on Wednesday 15th. I've been suffering with palpitations for near on 1 year now, had most tests.. hopefully the Tilt will produce some findings. It's a fact that 75% of people that have the test are positive in result. It's now 01:28am and I've just had a short spell of palpitation, some disorientation and the feeling of here we go again.. not pleasant. Now I'm going to avoid going to sleep for a while as I just know that the moment my head hits the pillow it will be on my mind, I'll hear my heart beat through my pillow and just end up being awake for a long time. I turn to this web site at times like this and feel strong.. thanks for everyones input, it's a brilliant find. Jeff
 
  Berty  Posted: 12/02/2006 07:24
2 months ago I started experiencing heart palpations. I have been in the hospital 2 times in the last 6 weeks with chest pressure and left arm tingling and weakness. First time I was admitted to a telemetry floor with 24 hour monitoring. My chest pressure resolved and I didn't feel one palpation the 3 days I was there. They did blood work and everything looked good. I did a followup with the cardiologist who had me take a stress test. Treadmill portion showed I did well. The imaging portion showed possibly abnormal. They wanted me to have a cardiac catheterization done but I couldn't afford it. USA Healthcare stinks!! Anyway...they had sent me home on Lopressor which is for blood pressure and angina. My palpations continued. Having them several times a day at times. Last week I took my daughter to her class and before I could make it home I had to call a friend to tell her I was getting ready to faint and had to pull my car over to the side of the road because I couldn't drive anylonger. My heart was racing and pounding. After about 5 minutes my head started to clear but I was shaking and my heart was still pounding. I had my friend take me to the emergency room where I was hooked up to a heart monitor and admitted to the hospital once again. I only had a few palpations during that stay of 3 days, but I also had a heart catheterization which showed my arteries to be clear. They sent me home telling me to take an aspirin daily and if I felt I needed it to take a lopressor. I am still feeling palpations quite frequently and am very frusterated by all this. I am now afraid to drive my car in case it all happens again. The feeling of "losing it" and passing out is very frightening. This discussion board has helped me tremendously with a lot of information. Thanks for being here.
 
  Chana  Posted: 13/02/2006 09:45
Naturegirl, I have also heard of people getting palps due to low magnesium, but this was easily diagnosed by their GPs. I'm not sure what the fda approves in the states but I'm also hypothyroid and take thyroxine - approved by the IMB and believe me it does NOT kill you. In fact if anything I would be very ill without it. Granted there are a small number of people with whom synthetic T4 does not agree and they need a porcine equivalent with T3 but these are few and far between. Any Dr. I have ever been to has never treated only the symtom of an illness, iF THAT WAS ALL THEY DID, THEN WHATEVER INFECTION A PERSON WAS SUFFERING FROM WOULD NOT GO AWAY. If you are going thru the menopause without drugs be sure to have regular scans to make sure that you are not being affected by osteoporosis, Also do have reglat mamograms and smear checks. I believe supplements have their place if you body has been depleted of them due to illness or stress or if for medical reasons you cannot get them from food. But if you are taking them on a regular basis without having an absorption or other medical problem then I would find this highly questionable.
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 13/02/2006 15:17
naturegal- I understand where you are coming from. I don\'t agree with the FDA. They promote drugs, the side effects of which can include seizures, heart attacks, and other disorders in individuals. Yet they will not approve natural medicine because they cannot make any money off of it. I trust my doctor but I do think there are most likely natural ways that I can cure PSVT. I have been taking magnesium supplements along with Cardizem(a calcium channel blocker) for my PSVT and skipped beats and the magnesium seems to be helping even more than the blocker. The reason I\'m staying on the blocker right now is because I\'m kinda scared. But if I don\'t see vast improvements in a month or so I might go off of it altogether and seek natural remedies. It can get very expensive (I live in the U.S) and I\'m a college student. My student insurance does not cover prescriptions filled at pharmacies other than the school pharmacy,
 
  nature gal  Posted: 13/02/2006 19:29
thanks for your input rhonda and chana, i also learnned that a free t3 is very important if the dr gives you all the t-tests for thyroid, the free t 3 is the most important one, with out it the others mean nothing, the reason most drs dont give it to you is because its expensive so if u ever go for a thyroid test take the free t 3 along with the other tests , tell him you want it, i found the dr wasent giving me enough thyroid, when i was taking the drug kind, i am happy with my vitamins and minerals and nutrients im taking, i wish more drs would advise a nutritionist , i dont know any that do, i do know we have the right to have one on our team if you are hospitalized, but most of the time the drs never take there advice , or a gree on anything with them. i have been reading books for yrs now about different things that mostly pertain to good health, and rhonda if you take care of your self now u wont have these problems like palpitations or diabetes or any serious problems hope fully not, when we feel like this like the palpitations and other things. its because we are lacking something, our bodies are not lackng drugs for it. but the nutrients that will be effective,to restore what your body needs, its very simple no one has to be a rocket scientist to figure it out, it all does make sense believe me , like i said medicine has it s place for certain things that are a must, and i do agree on that, but we can fix things on our own and all it takes is knowing what we need and having the right nutritionist, not a health food store owner or a vitamin shop owner but a real medical nutritionist who dosent sell you anything or tells you where to get your vitamins , minerals, nutrients etc, i am lucky to have found such a person,i didnt just wake up one day and said hey im gonna go see this guy for my problems no.... i read and studied , and looked very carefully it took me 6 yrs to do it, i was a skeptic and i never dreamed these things can actually help you. i can under stand people feeling the way they do thats fine i dont have a problem with that, i was just like that too myself, but i am happy and healthy, and doing fine, it workk for me..
 
  David(PZJ41985)  Posted: 13/02/2006 22:41
So glad I found this forum. There are more of us out there than I realised! I can relate to a lot of you guys and at the moment am working through a particularly bad period of palpitations. Going to try and get some of that well advised rest now, but will get involved more in the coming days. Good luck everyone.
 
  NATUREGAL  Posted: 13/02/2006 23:49
BERTY THAT DOES SOUND FRIGHTNING, I HAD THE SAME THING WITH THE POUNDING AND THE BLACK OUTS, LIKE YOUR NOT GETTING ANY OXYGEN TO THE BRAIN, IT IS A FEELING OF DOOM THATS HOW I DESCRIBE IT , I WAS LIKE YOU I COULD BE DRIVING AND THEN FEEL LIKE MY HEART WAS RACING, sometime when your just resting u can get them fiercly, I USED TO GET THEM FOR 8 TO 10 HRS AT A TIME, AND ALSO VERTIGO FOLLOWED THAT EPISODE, I DONT GEt THEM ANY MORE , AS YOU CAN SEE BY READING MY POSTINGS, BUT I CAN RELATE TO YOU ON THAT ONE, vertigo is another scary thing, that can be fixed very quickly. i first took the antvert that didnt cure the problem. then my nutritionist told me to take super gingko i was on a regiment, i cant tell any one they should take it it would be irresponsible for me to tell you u should , but i was for 3 months and it is gone.. i had that along with [palpitations for a long time. ihave had so many tests done from my arteries to my cat scans, everythign was clear, they thought it might of been arythmia.thank god its all water under the bridge for me now,,and i hope it will be for you too,,,
 
  Marie  Posted: 14/02/2006 00:54
Interesting topic about the drug companies. Being in health care, i have seen first hand how they often market their products. They can be very manipulative. After all, they are a business - they want market share. This is the nature of our capitalist system. The tobacco companies do the same thing. This is not a simple matter, it is very complex. I do not know the inner workings of FDA, however, I do know that to get drugs on the market certain criteria must be met, human trials are eventually conducted and a risk analysis is done. There have been exteme cases where these tests have been purposely flawed to force a particular outcome with little regard for human rights - though these instances are rare, they do happen. For the most part, and i have studied pharmacology, we know the pros and cons of most of these drugs. Drugs have side effects. Some are misprescribed. However, in science, there is no absolute certainty. We deal with probabilities, and risk benefit ratios. Should we trust the drug companies - should we trust any business without having researched their product?? Likely not. Caveat Emptor - means buyer beware. Does science really understand why certain diseases happen? Not many. We simply don\'t have the answers. We know the effects and understand enough to create something to deal with the effects but we often do not understand the underlying cause/s. Docto\'s often guess - it is often a process of elimination. They do not know as much as people think they do. pharmacology has created many wonder drugs that save lives eg. insulin, thyroxin, antibiotics, vasodilators, epinephrine etc... it is not black and white. Just be careful about which drugs you chose to take. Don\'t just trust your doctor - research yourself. Same goes for natural products - some can be harmful if not used properly. A well balanced diet should not require supplements - however, if they are required not all suppliments are the same either. With respect to heart medications they can save lives - but again, be careful, learn about the drug, listen to your body, understand your condition. Do not make gross generalizations because everyone is different and not all heart rhythm irregularities are the same nor do they all respond to the same remedies or treatments. If you are not sure best to trust your doctor. In today\'s information age it is not difficult to research any drug. Though do be careful with advise you give each other because none of us are qualified to diagnose and treat one another. One size does not fit all. Some suggestions are relatively benign, like mg, or aloe vera, but when it comes to meds or other suppliments we know very little about - i would recommend exercising great caution. Marie
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 14/02/2006 09:48
my doctor told me i have an irritable heart! I had been tested for palpations. anyone else out there?
 
  Mary  Posted: 14/02/2006 11:20
I have always had a free (or reverse) t3 test as part of my annual thyroid panel test. I understood this was standard here. The workup for it is done in the labs the same as other blood tests so it really shouldn't be any more expensive. Oh I was the same - the dr wasent giving me enough thyroid either, but now that I have increased my dosage to 400 / 500 mg alternately (winter dosage), I have vastly improved. Unfortunately there is no vitamins or minerals out there that can replace the throxine my body no longer produces - except to mask the symtoms, which is of course, of no use whatsoever. Nor is there anything which can reverse the auto-immune condition which caused me to produce TpA (Thyroid antibodoes) Alas taking good care of yourself, tho' it is of course extremely important, will not prevent palpitations in all cases as sadly not all aspects of our life are within our control. For many people palpitations occur not becuase we are lacking anything but as a stress response - our bodies response to situations around us. For quite some time, I suffered palps, leading to panic attacks and sleeplessness but ths was a stress response rahter than a physical lack within my body or an actual physical problem with my heart (such as an extra nerve bundle or murmur). Berty, my father had vertigo for years. To the point where he ould have tpo go and lie down. Couldn't drive, couldn'yt get up on a ladder - even looking a stripy tablecloth would affect him, it was that bad. The only thing that worked for him was a tablet called circ. Once a day every day. It was like a miracle pill for him. But you MUST stay on it and take it every day. He stopped takign it at one point and the attacks came back after about a month.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/02/2006 02:17
hi everyone i just recently had a palpitation so i decided to do a search to find out the cause. I'm 14 and my palpitations have been happening since grade 7. i went to the doctors and got a 24hr monitor and an this thing wehre thy put this gell on my chest and watch my blood flow and evrything and nothing came back. thy started to go away, but now im starting to have gym in high school and their coming back im worried something wrong with me again and that my heart actually has problems. Also recently i have been getting some hives and i feel a prickly bruning sensation when i get hot and it becomes a rash. i saw a physician n thy said it was a type of heat rash....please respond and tell me what could be wrong thanks
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/02/2006 13:04
Its great to know there are other people out there experiencing what i feel i have been going through. I'm a 36 male, I've had for a while a sensation of fluttering/twitching in my lower left side of chest, sometimes when i check my pulse there feels like a slight skip in it. This feeling often comes and goes over the months. It often comes at night and i wake up feeling the fluttering and also a 'heavy heart beat', it does not normally exceed my normal beats per min (79/80) but feels more prononced and can often last for hours. I feel i often get this after drinking alcohol. I go to bed and after a few hours am awake with it. Its soo frustrating. I feel i eat a well balanced diet, exercise ok. I've had an ECG in past and all was ok. Its just that its effecting my work/social life and i can get so angry with myself. I often feel like a right pain when i go back to my doctors.There have also been periods of hyperventalation which i cannot get any direct answers from doctor about! I try to deal with it as best as possible, last night agin though i was awake for hours with it and then floated off to sleep. Its been going on for what seems a long time in my life. I know that alcohol does bring it on more and make myself aware of it, though does not stop me from having the odd drink still. Its the fluttering/twitching which seems to frustrate me more and i'm hoping to try some herbal/ alternative remedies...anymore recommend anything? Aloe vera perhaps? Many thanks for reading and good luck to you all!
 
  lyn  Posted: 16/02/2006 00:36
ive had heart palpitations since i was 12 and im now 36 i have had alot of different tablets some worked like e.g verapamil for 14 years then stopped working i have been to casualty that many times i could tell the doctors where the adenosine was kept .i just get fed up with it. im to scared to travel long distance incase i take them so i miss out in places of interest.
 
  Berty  Posted: 16/02/2006 07:28
Thanks for your comments. It's good to know we are not alone. I've tried cutting back on the caffine which I wasn't excessive about anyway. I am going to do a little research on the super gingko. And the Circ. I only get the lightheadness while I'm having palpations. Night before last when I was at work I know I had an irregular beat for about 10 minutes and tried to ignore it so I could do my work. Made me panicky though. But it eventually stopped. Continued to have the palpations every now and then though the night. I want to do some exercising to strengthen my heart (I bought a Trikke 8 for myself for christmas, if anyone knows what that is) But the last time I rode on it I had irregular beats and palpations for 3 days afterwards. So I'm afraid to do any exercising. I don't want to do anything to cause these to happen. But they happen at times no matter what I'm doing. Keep posting and I'll keep reading. Thanks!
 
  Jeff  Posted: 16/02/2006 11:03
Til Test results - Hi guys and girls, anyone that has followed my last few postings will see that I've had the same conditions as many of you.. sleepless nights with endless palpitations.. after having the standard run of tests, ECG, 24 hour monitor etc.. my cardiologist recommended the Tilt Test. I strongly recommend that you ask for one of these if there has been no conclusive results from multiple testing. I had the test yesterday. For those who have never come across this I will explain. You are told to lay on specialist bed that is designed to tilt. You are in a quiet environment with both blood pressure and heart being monitored throughout the test. After a few minutes the person carrying out the test tilts the bed upright so you are in a standing position. After 20 minutes I began to get the symptoms of palpitations and light headiness, that terrible feeling of a possible blackout. It wasn't so bad going through this as it was all in controlled conditions, but let me tell you it was a relief, and I'll tell you why. On viewing the results it became clear that the reason behind my dizzyness and feeling faint was and is due to LOW BLOD PRESSURE. This was a positive test and one that we were all hoping for. Low blood can be managed by increasing water and salt intake. Last night I managed to sleep without fear and worry, best night for months. I urge anyone that feels that they have explored all avenues without success to go for a TILT TEST just to eliminate the possibility of low blood pressure. Any questions please post and I will happily answer.
 
  Trevorr(VUA42071)  Posted: 16/02/2006 12:15
With reference to my post 0n 15/02/06 (13:04) i'd liked to add that i have also been experiencing a pause in my heart beat, like it stops for a second and gets back into a normal pattern, over last 24 hours i have been mnitoring it. It seems to come and go. Today seems liek its happening regularly. With the pause being no longer than a second. There is no thump after it starts agin, nothing. To be honest there maybe only some fluttering. I hope this is not serious and hope its just ecoptic beats which someone mentioned before.
 
  Chana  Posted: 16/02/2006 12:30
Hi Jeff, you mean it was somehtign as simply as dehydration and electrolyte levels? Amazing!!
 
  Matt(GXV42147)  Posted: 16/02/2006 22:04
I found both the article here and the posting comforting from the point of view that all seemed to experience the panic and fear (just like me) and most were positive outcomes. I experienced palps for the first time 9 years ago and they were diagnosed as coffee related. I laid off it and they stopped but for many years now I drank coffee again. I experieced a return of them in the last few days and have had an ecg (undetected). I'm 40 but very fit and strong with a resting beat of approx 48-50. Yet despite this I had a number of severe panic attacks these last few days. I also had tightness in my chest which worried me but I think this is mainly due to a touch of asthma. I;m told my symptoms are due to over caffeine intake, excessive exercise, not enough work or sleep. Thanks for all your comments. The mind can be very dangerous and some of the websites on this matter should be removed immediately.
 
  Dana(WFZ42525)  Posted: 23/02/2006 02:20
I get an urge to cough also when I have palpitations. It may be related to GERD. I am researching now, and ruling out cardiac issues. I am glad to know I am not the only one who feels this. Thanks.
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 25/02/2006 04:43
Hi. I'm new to this board after doing a search on heart skipping, and am SOOOO happy and relieved to read these posts. I have an appointment with a cardiologist, but I'm not as afraid to go as I was. Thank you. If NatureGirl is still here, I'd love to know what radio personality she listens to. I, too, would rather take natural supplements than medications when possible. Would love to know her resource. Thank you all for giving me a little peace of mind.
 
  Jim  Posted: 26/02/2006 23:28
This is a great site, best I have found. I have been having heart palpitaions for about a month, they come and go, sometimes severe. Usuually it feels like beat..beat..beat.........BEAT. I get a series of three of these patterns, about 30 to 40 times a day. I have seen my GP and he said it was nothing to worry about. I don't smoke, I drink one cup of coffee a day, great blood pressure & cholesteral, not overwight, exercise three to five times a week. I insisited the GP do more so he hooked me up with a 24 "Holter" device that monitors my heart. I turn the recorder in tomorrow for analysis. These irregular heart beats are driving me crazy. Any thoughts? Sorry for any mispelled words.
 
  Jeff  Posted: 27/02/2006 10:44
To Jim, I had the same symptoms for a year or so, turned out to be Low blood Pressure.. ask for a Tilt Test if all tests come back negative. When you get the palpitations raise your legs and clinch your fists.. see if that helps in anyway.. helps me
 
  David(PZJ41985)  Posted: 06/03/2006 21:23
Just wondering if anyone knows of any allergies or food intolerances that cause palpitations? (Apart from Aspartame, which I avoid like the plague) I have suffered from "skipped beats" since my early 20's (37 now)when I had all the tests and have learned to cope with them. The last few weeks, however, have been particularly bad and what brings them on seems to have changed. Before, it was usually exercise and hard work. Now, it is when I am resting, particularly at the end of the day. Funnily enough, going for a run in the evening seems to help and wards them off until bedtime. I am reasonably fit, avoid caffeine and have cut right back on alcohol (I too was suffering from morning after symptoms) I drink lots of fruit juice, and am going to try cutting that out for a week. I really don't want to go back to the docs, but it is really staring to get to me again and, as we all know, it is easy to fall into the cycle of worry = more palpitations= more worry. Cheers
 
  Nick  Posted: 07/03/2006 04:45
Good Post David. You are quite understanding of the condition. I found that being tired brought them on more. I get little signs... like a few rapid beats after I start to fatique. No I find that the best rest is that which I get before midnight. No big deal. I just shift my day. I go to bed earlier. I like to be in bed by 9:30 pm latest. I get up at 7. I can go ages with no palps now. Rich carbohydrates sets mine off too. So I eat better meals. I have lost 16 pounds by eating properly and wiping out bad carbs. Nick.
 
  Trevorr(VUA42071)  Posted: 07/03/2006 11:05
With reference to my last posts, (16/2/06) I went to doctors, explained thoroughly what kind of symptoms I was getting. I found it helpful to keep a diary. I was getting worried about the pauses in my heart beat, they never lasted longer than a second (and no real thump afterwards). He feels it may be ecoptic beats and has agreed to refer me for a 24hour Holter test plus stress test. I do feel strongly that there is a definite connection with alcohol and he advised me to stop drinking for 2 weeks. I’m not a heavy drinker but would have more at a weekend when out with friends. Its been a week now and I’ve seen a definite difference. I have been feeling a lot better and been sleeping better. Although last night I woke up again with a ‘heavy’ chest feeling and felt my pulse…again there was a pause in it. I had been exercising earlier in day (jogging) and had eaten a spicey meal.. maybe there is a connection. Though I have to agree with David’s post and say that exercise does make me feel good…until I get to bed…and then I have found I wake up with these missed beats. This though does not happen every time I exercise. Its very frustrating as the past week I have been feeling good. Last night was a downer and I hope maybe the Holter test shows something up. I have been drinking Detox hebal tea and although tasting pretty unpleasant I feel its helped aswell.if not reduced some of the anxiety. Although I shall have the odd pint again in future…there is something in reducing intake of alcohol, I found especially red wine a trigger. I was wondering if people had a problem with spicey food? Overall though my Doctor has told me not to worry to much about it, that’s easy for him to say as my uncle died at 26 from Marfan Symdrome (heart problem) and although I’ve had all the test for it, its still in my back of my mind that it may happen to me. I’m also having some blood tests this week which may help. I don’t really know how long this has been going on for, could be for years ..maybe I just haven’t realised. Perhaps now I’m in my mid thirties I have become more aware of it. All the best! I’ll keep u updated! Trevorr
 
  Ty  Posted: 07/03/2006 20:02
Trevorr - Sounds like ectopic beats, which are very common...for me it feels like a flutter in my chest and up into my throat...a second, then gone...very annoying.......Have you had an ECG? If you take your pulse, and "catch" it, it feels like two rapid beats in succession followed by a pause before regular rhythm resumes...I find exercise helps. I drink red wine on a regular basis (great source of antioxidants), and haven't noticed it to cause any more ectopic beats then any other alcohol...usually I am most aware of the beats while at rest, or the day after consuming alcohol. I am 34, run 3-4 miles a day, and don't smoke...I have had all the tests, and the doctor has basically told me to ignore the problem...easier said then done!! My advice would be to continue to exercise, try to get proper magnesium intake into your diet (I learned this may help as well), and try not to stress about it! Waiting for it to happen always seems to bring on the problem!! When I am busy at work, and distracted by regular daily activities, I seem to notice them less. My doctor told me that almost 100 percent of people will have at least one ectopic beat (usually more) per day...some people just don't take notice! I wish I was one of those people!! Hope this helps!. T
 
  Mary  Posted: 08/03/2006 08:23
Hi Trevor, not sure if this will help. I too suffered ith palps - there was an emotional trigger linked to panic attacks initially but it seems to have left some sort of carry-over and yes, exercising late used to affect me as well. Now I have my workout in the morning. Getting up at 6 isn't nice but it's much nicer than palps! Oddly, the only alcohol trigger for me, is port. If I dink it in the evening, I will have palps riht into the next afternoon. No other drinks affects me. A pity, but there you have it.
 
  David(PZJ41985)  Posted: 08/03/2006 22:24
Ty - I'm totally the same! When i'm working I seem to be fine, though do occasionally pick up the odd palp. But as soon as i get in the car to come home,off they go again. You are right. Now I'm expecting them so of course they come. Got home tonight feeling terrible, forced myself to go out and play 5 a side, and now I feel great! I'm sure its the old one about exercise releasing endorphins (?) into the brain which makes you feel good which I think is half the battle. Trevor, as regards the spicy food, sometimes my "skipped beats" seem to be linked to indigestion and trapped wind, which I suffer from off and on. i read somewhere that "acid reflux" can bring on palps, hence a possible link to spicy food. I am sleeping very well at the moment, but usually get a few palps when I first go to bed. You've probably heard this, but I was told to avoid caffeine including de-caf products which contain a small amount of caffeine.
 
  maggie  Posted: 09/03/2006 01:34
i have been having panic attacks for the past 10 years and i am 28 years old. i have been have heart palpitations for the past 3 years. i have been to my doctor over and over again. I stopped drinkning caffine ans that did not help. right now i have a heart moniotor on and I have to wear it for 30 days. every test i take seems to come up with nithing. Recently I started a new job and one day i was sitting at my desk and my heart started beating sooo fast and my hands became numb-- i had never felt anything like that before. My work called an ambulance and they hooked my up tp a heart monitor and my heart was at 170 beats// i was having palpitaions constantly when that happened. I did not go to the hospital, i calmed myself down and went home for the day. I was so exhausted after that happened i felt like i just ran a marathon. I followed up with my doctor and I told him what happened and I had to go get more blood tests and I am going to a cardiologist in 2 weeks. In a way I think I am crazy, everyday my mind is consumed of this fear that this episode will happen again and I getr severe anxiety...I really dont know where to turn at this point... I know I am not crazy, but if they cannot find anything what do I do???
 
  Trevorr(VUA42071)  Posted: 09/03/2006 11:59
Many thanks Ty,Mary and David for the advice etc! I have had many ECG's in the past but every time nothing comes up but a regular beat. My G.p. (who is very undertsanding and Patient with me!) has referred me for a stress test and 24 heart monitor, maybe something will show up from that! I like David played five a side football last night and again felt great, and even had a good night sleep. Its werid because some nights i get a god night, some nights i dont. I havent been drinking any alcohol for over a week now and believe the Detox has been good for me. With regard to the ecoptic beat, i do feel a fluttering/twitching in my lower part of chest often below left rib cage...although its hard to pinpoint where it is. I dont feell a rapid beat, its more like a normal beat and then a 1/2 second pause but a distinctive one. I often put my finger on pulse around throat and get a good indication of it. There is no heavy beat after the pause, its just goes back to a normal beat.I do feel though that my chest has a heavy sensation and its like my breathing sometimes becomes heavier. My heart rate ranges from 62 to 78 in the day. I try not to get to stressed about it although thats easier said than done. I will cont to excercise as i feel great after it. I wish all of you the best as in many ways we are a minority of people who are living with this on a daily basis. My advice to Maggie is to get as many tests done as possible, even if your G.p. is relucant, its your right to request this. This will if anything give u a piece of mind and reassure you that all is okay. I know that when i first had these i would panic and suffer from hyperventilation. Its not pleasant. Be reassured you are not alone in this and like you i've often had 'attacks' at work. Thats why i was determined to get something done as it began to effect my social and personal life. Half the battle is resisting tne aniexty and feelings of panic..if you can manage these feelings then you will find it does help, though that will come in time. I do hope Maggie you can get it sorted out as its sounds like you have been having an awful time. Good luck and thanks again for the previous messages! Trevorr
 
  charmayne  Posted: 09/03/2006 22:06
Firstly I wanna say hi to everyone, I am so glad I found this site as I feel now that im not alone. I have been suffering what I think are palpitations for 18 months now. I feel like my heart is skipping a beat then the next beat is really strong and I feel it in my throat. When I first started getting them I went 2 the docs and they did an ecg which came back normal. They subsided for a while but about 2 months ago they came back with a vengence! I went back to the docs and he gave me 1 months worth of beta blockers which really worked but unfortunately as soon as I stopped taking them the symptoms came back so I took another trip to the docs and he gave me 3 months worth this time. I am still taking them but i have noticed over the past few days as the day goes on I can feel the symptoms again and frankly this is worrying me especially as I am taking medication to control it and it aint working. I feel the symptoms quite alot more just after ive eaten and i feel very full even if i havent eaten alot. Can anyone relate to my symptoms? It would be great if someone else was going through the same (well not great but u know what i mean) Thanks xx
 
  Jim  Posted: 10/03/2006 13:36
Charmayne, I have the same experience, my heart rythem is normal, then a small beat followed by a pause and a large beat that I can feel in my throat or in my chest. I have been on beta blockers for two week, intially they worked, but now the palps are coming back, not as intense as before, but I can still feel them. Mine seemed to be triggered by stressful or excitable situations (presentations at work, intense conversations, etc...) I have been diagnosed with PAC (Premature Atrial Contractions)which the doctor says is nothing to worry about (he doesn't have to live with it!). It is an on going battle, but it appears we have the same symptoms. I will post more as more develops. Hang in there!
 
  Paul  Posted: 10/03/2006 23:14
I am 15 years old and ive had 4 noticable attacks of SVT over the past 2 years. During these attacks i never felt pain or dizziness or anything but it felt like my heart was going to explode. i also get a few occasions every week or so where i feel my heart skip a beat. ive seen a doctor and been to the hospital after the last attack but they didn't catch the pulpitations. i'm starting to get quite worried about it.
 
  David(PZJ41985)  Posted: 10/03/2006 23:26
Hi everyone, I spoke to a doctor friend this afternoon who gave me some new information regarding palps that I haven't heard before.He said that if you are prone to them and also fit (low resting pulse - mine is about 60 ) then the ectopic beats have more of a "space" to do their worst. He compared it to throwing a dart at a spinning fan - the faster the fan, the less likely the dart to get through. I think I see what he is getting at. What he also told me was that if the heart beat is otherwise steady there isn't usually anything to worry about. Hope this helps. Remember, this is 1 doctors opinion, but I have felt great now for the last few days.
 
  Thomas(DRP43504)  Posted: 13/03/2006 16:14
I have palpitations following an airline flight.They continue for about 4-6 weeks and then stop.Is this common? If so what do you think it is about flying that starts these palpitations? I have no fear of flying and I am a calm person with no apparent anxieties. Could it be the different pressure in the plane?
 
  Felix  Posted: 14/03/2006 08:37
Hi guys- I am fascinated and excited (in a strange way) to see your experiences regarding "anxiety" attacks and palpitations--BECAUSE i can relate to a lot of what you are saying. I too had problems after running then eating spicey foods---my heart would act like it was skipping, i'd wake up into the dead of night only to feel like i was going to die...like someone pulled the plug on me...i was confused, yet knew something wasnt right...ended up i had 7 of these episodes over a period of 13 days where i went to the ER each time to be told NOTHING wrong with me...all the ekg , tests, heart test holter monitor shower NOTHING. IT was the worst time in my life. My mentor (spiritual mentor) told me i was having a Heart Chakra alignment...i was like...uh...a WHAT? didnt make sense to me...i researched the internet only to find NOTHING about a heart chakra alignment. THEN! My last visit to the ER, an Asian women closed the door, shut the windows to the ER rooms (not wanting her colleagues to hear her say this to me) and told me i was having a SPiritual awakening...heart alignment. WHAT are the odds that two different people, my mentor who lives in Miami, FLorida and my nurse who is in the Bronx, NYC would say the SAME THING??? While this happened 3 years ago, I DO believe it has something to with our bodies adjusting to energies, taking in higher spiritual energy, It also has a lot to do with our own spiritual growth. It forced me to look at my life and start fulfilling my desires in life.
 
  Chana  Posted: 14/03/2006 15:44
Good for you Felix, but for most people this has either a physical or stress related cause. Palps are NOT normal.
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 16/03/2006 17:55
I am now on 360 mg of Verapamil for PSVT and I am still getting the attacks at least once a week. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I am getting so depressed about this.
 
  Nick  Posted: 17/03/2006 06:34
HI to all, Im from the UK, im male aged 33 and was very relieved to find this site, infact my eyes filled up after the first few posts, the wonders of the internet. I first had palp's 10 years ago when i was just about to go work on the cruise ships in the carribean. It was a big thing for me at the time and i could hear the occasional thumping (and that's all it was) at night, got beta-blockers form the doctor and all was fine again within a week and that was the last of it, i went for two years and had some great times! I dont live a healthy life style now, would be lying to say anything different. I'm a regular cannibis user but i dont drink alcahol. I dont eat much in the way of a balanced diet which are usauly sandwiches, i sometimes eat or binge abit (quite often cerial) before bed which i know is bad. My job at the moment is a taxi driver so im sitting alot and then i come home to sit some more in front of my pc for enteratinment (pc games) and i have been stuck in this silly rutt for 3 years now. Im probably experiencing the most deppressing time of my life at the moment for various reasons which are out of my control: family issues, own mental health issues. Lifes problems in small paced out doses i feel i can deal with but when they all seem to hang over me at the same time i feel like im starting to sink. This umpleasant feeling has built up over a year until finaly 4 weeks ago when everyday had become an anxious one (with a big problem i couldnt resolve), i started to experience fluttering or a hick-up coming from my heart also to be felt in the neck. The need to cough when they were bad was apparant too. I noticed someone mention crying in an earlier post and i shared this too as i think its a sign to make changes to ones life and also it was before i came across you people. I put up with it for about 4 days before seeing the doctor who said that i was under stress and that there head been some recent unpleasant events occuring and this was most likely the cause. Inevitably it was beata-blockers for me until i still had some strong palp's even after 2 days of taking the medication, which in itself made me more panicky as my doctor had told me that the blockers (propranolol) would abolish the palp's. To the present: I found this site on page 4 of a google search so im pleased i searched a little extra and have concluded that a magnesium defficiancy sounded to be a likely canditate. Get some exersise and a good diet!! i hear you say, but the palp's came on 4 weeks ago like a switch has been flicked. It has made me take a hard look at the way i treat my body so i think changes are ahead, hopefuly as things become resovled and more settled re my family they will stop. I probably had 4 days with no palpitations in one month and i quite often feel them between 2-30 times a day. PC gaming deffinately brings them on and most other exiting passtimes. Anyway, sorry for the long post, but i have one question please, i have been taking magnesium supplements for 3 days and i go the whole day now without any palp's until i get home to relax. so things seem to be improving but i noticed after the toilet that my stools were loose and green! (spinach colour) a colour i have never seen coming from the my lower regions before, please tell me that its the magnesium, would be grateful to know if i should stop taking them for this reason. Good luck with all your stories, and take care of yourselves. Regards Nick p.s. maybe palpitations are good as they are a harmless sign that your body is not happy with something you are doing which you ARE in control of.
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 18/03/2006 01:42
Hi Nick, Thanks for sharing your story. . .and I'm so glad you want to make some improvements in your lifestyle. I hope that stress and anxiety management are all part of your plan. As far as the magnesium, I have found this to be the "wonder drug" for me. I eased up my dosage to 600mg a day (Magnesium Taurate or Magnesium Glycinate are the ones your body absorbs best), and have been symptom free. It usually takes about 3-7 days before you start to absorb the magnesium because it's stored in your cells and not your blood stream (only 2% in your blood stream). Side note: that's why magnesium deficiencies are so hard to diagnose - most doctors run a simple blood test which basically tells you nothing! Magnesium will definitely affect your stools, and the green color is nothing to be alarmed about. Actually, the green color is usually a result of not eating enough and your gallbladder releasing digestive enzymes anyway. It will stop. If you are consistently having diarrhea, cut back on the magnesium, wait a couple of days, then slowly build back up until you don't get diarrhea anymore. Also keep in mind, the type of magnesium you take is very important. The most popular, Magnesium Oxide is very poorly absorbed - about 10mg for every 400mg you take! And when you consider the fact that 80-95% of us are magnesium deficient, we need what we can get! Also be sure to eat foods rich in magnesium, and stay away from soda (the phosphates inhibit the absorption of magnesium). Best wishes Nick. . .keep us posted!
 
  marnia  Posted: 19/03/2006 08:33
Hi Nick and welcome...Stephanie is right on the ball re Magnesium...I had the 'trots' when I first started to take magnesium..take her advice!!! and good luck
 
  nikki06  Posted: 19/03/2006 17:56
Hi, I have been having these missed beats, they started years ago as a sudden thud and nothing more, over the years they have increased in how often they happen and i get missed beats, gained beats, my heart beating very fast (usually wake in the night with this) i get the missed beats if i bend or sit down too quickly or reach behind me for something if i walk, exercise, breath too deeply they now last on average every few seconds and for hours the last long episode of them lasted 8 days in total, i have had a treadmill ecg and i was fine on there, then i went to casualty when i had them for 8 days they told me my heart was throwing off extra beats from the ventricles, i hate these dreaded things, its the not knowing when they will happen or for how long. My dad had a heart attack a couple years ago aged 52 from a blocked artery and his own father had a heart attack at the same age, my mums dad died of a heart attack at 47, all these things have come to light since i have been having these and i am worried there is a connection with it all. I dont smoke, drink alchol, drink coca cola etc..i drink de caf tea or coffee, i dont actually drink very much in terms of juice or water and maybe this is the reason. i dont know, all i know is the years are going by and i am afraid to go to far or experience new things for the fear of dropping dead of a heart complaint, which hasnt happended yet but the worry is always there.
 
  Trevorr(VUA42071)  Posted: 20/03/2006 12:47
With reference to my last posts, (7/3/2006) i had my blood tests and all was normal. I'm awaiting the stress test and 24 hour monitor. I had a question for everybody out there, do u think there is any connection to Sleep Apnea.This is where you stop breathing when sleeping and you often wake up with a gasp/jerk. Not sure if this is related but last night i woke up with a huge jerk and have been feeling like crap today with my heart beat often pausing plus fluttering!! arragh ...its sooo annoying! Cheers Trevorr
 
  denise(GVW40864)  Posted: 20/03/2006 15:58
Hi Trevorr - Reading your post with regards to sleep apnea being related to palps. I have been experiencing palpitations for at least 6 months now. I have them daily. I have had several nights when just as I'm drifting off to sleep I jerk awake, trying to catch my breath. Last night was one of these nights. I have read up on sleep apnea but don't seem to have any symptoms (except this one). I am 38 years old, not overweight(most say I'm under weight). I had tests in December and my doctor found my ferritin levels were very low. I am currently on iron supplements. I don't know if my palps are related to the low ferritin or not, but the iron has not yet helped. I have a doctors appt. next week. Keep us updated if you find a connection between the palps and sleep apnea. Today I feel terrible, tired, lots of palps....I agree with you..arrrgg...
 
  Nick  Posted: 21/03/2006 00:45
Hi Stephanie and Marnia, thanks very much for your replies, i didnt have any more green stools im glad to say, but more importantly the palps have almost gone, i say almost becuase im more tuned into them now so maybe there just normal beats when excited. I dont get that horrible feeling of the heart doing accrobatics and the throat pulsating anymore I have also layed off the canibis which was deffinately aggravating it, but i think the magnesium (oxide, which seemed to be working so decided not to change) has been the key. It seems it takes several factors to lead to palps, had the stress factor not been an issue i probably wouldnt have got them. So, still early days yet as there are still ongoing dramas, im also just about to have an operation on my shoulder due to too many dislocations which im getting nervous about now, thats on Wed 22 march. I shall post back in a week hopefully to say that im symptom free. I would still be palpitating if i hadn't discovered this place. Thanks admin and the creators of this site! Take care all and thanks again
 
  Eva  Posted: 21/03/2006 16:13
Hi All, I live in Canada and I am so glad I have found this page. Sometimes I think I am the only one living with this problem. So I have read all postings and started to take Magnesium Citrate yesterday and will see. Thank you all and good luck!
 
  David(PZJ41985)  Posted: 21/03/2006 19:28
Update - I went to the docs last week as the palps were pretty much a daily occurance. I also visited my health store and bought magnesium tablets. Got the all clear regarding blood tests and ECG today. The amazing thing is the palps have all but gone! I have had virtually none now since friday. I put it down to 3 things - less stress, the magnesium and also possibly bananas which I also stopped eating on Wednesday. Apparently a high level of zinc in your body can aggravate symptoms. I will stay off bananas for a couple of weeks then try reintroducing them. I'll keep you all posted! Hope this helps some of you.
 
  Mary  Posted: 22/03/2006 11:28
David, I thought bananas were high in potassium rather than zinc? Is this incorrct?
 
  winter  Posted: 22/03/2006 20:21
Hello david and all, This year I started to get heart palpitations, and like everyone I got a scare. I didnt run to the doctor because I was too busy and I am not inerested in taking drugs, but look for natural cures. In the last few months I started to invesigate why this was happening to me. I realised that I live a very stressful life being a student and working full time. I also noticed that my palpitations increase after I eat certain foods. This year I also introduced a new food into my diet, I started eating bananas, I used to avoid eating them in the past as they used to constipate me. Bananas are rich in potassium and are know to help hypertension as well as having altering affects on high blood pressure. I have always had low blood pressure and I am wondering if lowering the blood presure too low could add to the problem. Does anyone have any knowledge in this area.
 
  Marie  Posted: 24/03/2006 02:09
Winter.. You should have your blood pressure checked. Many drug stores in Canada have automatic cuffs that can give you a measurement. Or just go into a walk in clinic, or your MD. Or you can buy an auto BP cuff to keep at home. How many banana's do you eat a day? The daily recommended intake of K+ is between 2.5 and 5.8 grams. Banana's have ~ 500 mg. Additional K+ may help reduce BP, but there are other contributing factors to BP. For instance, how much Na+ are you taking in, and are you on meds, or have kidney problems .... Generally speaking, a banana or two a day should not cause a significant decrease in BP. Unless , you are especially sensitive to it. Actually, low K+ may actually contribute to heart rhythm irregularies. A well balanced diet is very important - and potassium is a vital electrolyte. have your blood work done to test for electrolyte abnormalities and try increasing your Mg intake - maybe by 200 mg a day for a few weeks, then 400 - 500 and see if that helps. Also, make sure you are getting all your B vitamins - food is the best source, but if uncertain B vitamins are water soluble so a suppliment will not hurt. they turn your urine very yellow - don't be alarmed. i am not a doctor, i am a nurse with experience in nutrition. This advise is not meant to replace being looked at by your MD. Heart arrythmias should be reported to your MD. There are many types and some require more interventions than others. also, drink lots of water and stay away from caffeine and alcohol. Marie
 
  53  Posted: 26/03/2006 20:58
I am 53 and started having a skipped beat 10 months ago. I have them just occasionally but always starting in the afternoon. I have always been a nervous worrier and did have panic attacks earlier in my life. I went to the ER when I had my first skiped beat episode and they did an EKG, bood and lung scan and all is normal. Is this common in menopause and should I be worried? I am taking an aspinin everyday extra magnesium and vitamin E. I need someone to tell me this is normal-HELP!
 
  julie  Posted: 27/03/2006 11:17
I have been woken up in the night with strong palps the last two nights and was so worried I went straight to the docs this morning he didnt seem unduly bothered and said my heart was beating strongly but he has organised an ecg for tomorrow hopefully to put my mindat rest as I am going on hols wednesday . Reading this forum has helped a lot as I didnt realise it is such a common thing Ill update tomorrow after Ive been hooked up
 
  Robert(YDP44294)  Posted: 28/03/2006 04:59
I started to notice an odd feeling as I lay in bed on my left side. It was like a quiet flutter in my chest. I determined that the next time I felt it I would check my pulse; my heart was skipping beats. If I change to my right side or lay on my back my heart beats normally. Then I began to notice that I had fluttering now and then throughout the day. I wonder if I may have had this condition for a long time and just didn't notice. It is rather subtle. Sometimes I can relate it to stress, and sometimes not. The episodes only last about 3 to 5 seconds. I have started taking extra magnesium with my regular vitamins and minerals. Minerals (electrolites) are critical to normal heart function, and magnesium is very important.
 
  Nick  Posted: 28/03/2006 22:21
Hi all, I would just like to update you on my situation (male ages 33) I dont seem to have palpatations anymore, in fact my mind has been very much occupied with other things which has helped. 6 days ago i had surgery on my shoulder and they give you all the tests re heart health inc ECG and a passed. I told the anesthetist about the palp's and that the magnesium seemed to have worked, which is what i wanted to tell you about.. He said that magnesuim could do you more harm than good but didnt explain much further than that. In total i probably took magnesium for about 6 days but stopped because of diarrhea and havent rusumed after what the anesthetist said, but i can still say that they havent come back. Magnesium was the first thing that stopped them followed by a change of living habits but having other things to deal with takes your mind off them. So, on this day im saying i had palp's for 1 month and they havent returned for almost 2 weeks. (touch wood) Dont strike me down for saying this but i feel i would rather have mild palps back than this rotten shoulder complication. Be fit 'n healthy to you all! Take care
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 28/03/2006 23:48
53 Just reading your post. I can relate to you in the fact that your a worrier and had panic attacks earlier in life. Do you still have them? I suffer anxiety and panic and have been having palpitations for the last 8 months. I am currently being evaluated, all work is good, bp is good. I am going for an echocardiogram in 2 weeks and will also be hooked up to a holter. My doctor suspects everything will come out normal. She explained to me that benign palpitations are common among women especially during pms or menopause. I am not yet menopausal (I'm 38)however I do notice my palps are at their worse a week before my period. Are you taking the aspirin under your doctors care? From what I read the benefits of aspirin are not the same for women as they are men. My doctor asked me when I was there yesterday if I take aspirin. I said no, and she said that was good. I'm not sure why she asked me but it must be significant for diagnosing my palps. I think the root of my palps is in fact anxiety. Just seeing her yesterday made me feel better, and I have not had any palps in 24 hours (which hasn't happened for 8 months). If I were you, and all your tests have been normal I would try not to stress over them, it probably is menopause. If you don't have it already do get your doctor's ok for the aspirin everyday. Good luck.
 
  Trevorr(VUA42071)  Posted: 29/03/2006 12:25
With reference to my last posts 7/3/06/ and 23/06. I now have the 24 hour heart monitor on me. Typically…I’ve been feeling okay with no signs of my heart pausing/missing a beat or pounding! I’m actually hoping this will happen in next 24 hours!! (for once!) This week hasn’t been a good one, I’ve had quite a lot of missed beats/ pounding especially at night occurring on Saturday night and Monday/Tuesday. Saturday I did drink a few pints and this may have been the problem causing it. I couldn’t sleep at all with fluttering/twitching and a sense my heart was pounding throughout night, this lasted until next day and even then I felt like it was still not right. Monday /Tuesday I had no alcohol and still during the night had the feeling of heaviness and fluttering. Though I had drank a beechams for a sore throat I began to get over weekend. I had the hot lemon just before I went to bed and maybe this caused a problem as I had just eaten and felt in bed I had a lot of gas/wind. (this I feel can be a cause of some of the fluttering sensation..where I feel like I have to burp!) Well its still all a bit werid and still not getting a good nights sleep, some nights are better than others. And I don’t believe its all down to alcohol. Robert- I have same feeling when lying down. Same feeling when on left side. I’m hoping the 24 hour monitor will help but sod’s law I will be fine and have none!! I am awaiting also for the stress test.
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 29/03/2006 19:12
Hi everyone, Just wanted to update you all on my progress. I went to a cardiologist last week and he ran an EKG, Echocardiogram and some blood work (Thyroid, Complete Metabolic Profile, CBC and Iron). I'll be getting a 30-day Holter Monitor too (ugh!). So far, everything is normal (and he expects it to be). I did tell him I was taking Magnesium and he said it wouldn't hurt me (it's water soluble) but as a medical doctor, he's not sure he believes it. But he did say that in j10 years, he may change his mind completely. > Anyway, I have been symptom free for two weeks (about 5 days after starting the Magnesium), so I have a really hard time not believing that's what it was. I stopped taking it for a couple of days just to see, and the palps came back (though not as severe). Another benefit for me I just recently realized is that I have no more breast pain (sorry guys!). I have fibrocystic changes in my left breast, and almost always have pain - especially around my period. Well, that's completely gone now too! The more I read about Magnesium, the more I really think it's a wonder mineral! Good Health to All, Stephanie
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 30/03/2006 02:04
Trevorr I'll be getting the 24 hr holter monitor in 2 weeks. I asked my doctor what happens if I don't have any palps in the 24 hour period? She said it is actually certain rythems that I wouldn't feel that they look for rather then the palps themselves. So if there is anything to be concerned about, they will still see it regardless if the palps happen during that time or not.
 
  Trevorr(VUA42071)  Posted: 30/03/2006 10:26
Yesterday I had the 24 hour monitor fitted. This was on for 24 hours. Didn’t to get much fluttering or palps Even went for a run and had a glass of wine..just to test it!!Slept ok as much as I could with it on. Returned it today and await the results. Funny thing is, guess what.. suprise suprise had pauses in my heart beat today after I gave it back and fluttering. Its so annoying and frustrating. I’m beginning to think its all in the mind! Arrrrraghh!
 
  Robert(YDP44294)  Posted: 30/03/2006 20:40
Hi All, There is nothing harmful about magnesium supplimentation. If your body has as much magnesium as it needs you may get diarrhea, but the same can happen with too much vitamin C. Just reduce the amount. Note this: if minerals are removed from water (calcium and magnesium), it will not conduct electricity. If our bodies are low in minerals, our hearts electrical system cannot function properly. It is that simple. This may not cure all forms of palpitations, but it does seem to help many. I really appriciate hearing everyone's story. It is very uplifting.
 
  marnia  Posted: 01/04/2006 09:03
Hi All...Sitting at my computer looking like I had lost a round with Mike Tyson..yesterday I had surgery on my teeth..an ongoing problem I've had all my life..my teeth are set in concrete...normally I have sedation..but because of the P.A Fib.'they who must be obeyed'decided it would be better for my heart if they did the surgery in a hospital environment without sedation but with local anasthetic..and with a heart monitor...and altho' I feel physically rotten today with bruised swollen face and a mouthful of stitches...I am delighted that I had no episodes during the surgery..first time that happened....whether its due to the beta-blocker and the magnesium...who knows...but I know that after a highly stressful situation for me I was able to go home in 4 hours...normally it could be three days...beta-blockers work for some..not for others..same for magnesium...'different strokes for different folks' !!! Each one of us has to find our own combination.. but having this site is a great source of information and comfort...Good health to all!!!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 01/04/2006 11:16
Hi, I'm a 39 yr old female living in the UK. I've found reading your postings very helpful. 2 weeks a go I had a TCRE (removal of the womb lining) and a mirena coil fitter under a general anasthetic. Since then I have experienced what I would term severe palpitations ie happenning at least every couple of minutes day and night. My heart beats either several times in what would normally be 1 beat or misses beats out. I have been woken up by the thus that comes when it starts again after a missed beat. I'm also experiencing a kind of cold numbness from the left side of my chest up into my neck and a general ache in the chest. I have had an ECG and seen 2 doctors but noone seems bothered. However I am not reassured as it is so unpleasant and scary and has come on so suddenly. Has anyone head of it being caused by anasthetics or hormones?
 
  Mary  Posted: 03/04/2006 09:19
Anon 11:16 - your posting struck a chord with me. Somneone mentioned in an earlier post that their palps seem to be worse around their periods (sorry guys) and I kept track of this over the last couple of months and sure enough - the day before my period, I get really strong palps, worsened if I drink wine. I remember saying this to my partner and he thought it was odd as it hadn't always happened every month and I had never connected it, but I too have the mirena iud. There was no actual surgery involved so I didn't have any aneasthetic. That said, I would rathr put up with the palps thna go back on the pill.
 
  53  Posted: 06/04/2006 03:39
I wanted to tell you all that I read about taking aloe vera soft gels for palpitations. I purchased them and have been taking two gel tabs twice a day on an empty stomach. I have had no palpitations that I know of since I started this a week ago. I am thrilled and pray they don't come back. The aloe vera gels are for stomach problems and are completely safe. Try it and tell us if it works for you, too.
 
  aussieforgood  Posted: 10/04/2006 22:22
For the last 6 months or so I've been experiencing a thumping in my chest which I feel in my ears, down my arm and all over my chest this thumping goes on from an hour to several hours at a time, daily. Sometimes it feels like my heart is racing at the same time. This always happens to me about 15-30 mins after I eat, mostly bread, but also other kinds of food, and now I'm afraid to eat just so I won't feel it happening. I usually experience none of these symptoms if I haven't eaten all day, and I've started eating only at night so that I can go to bed & sleep it off. In the last month or so It's been feeling like my heart is skipping a beat, at first it started of a few times a week now, I feel this daily, along with the thumping, & sometimes i feel my heart skipping a beat on & off for the whole day. Should I be worried. I went to a GP about a cough & mentioned this to him & he told me it was due to anxiety, but he didn't order any tests or check my blood pressure or anything. He just diagnosed me in a hurry, so I really don't know if I should have faith in his diagnosiss or not. He gave corticoid therapy for a cough I have and I'm afraid it may harm my heart because of the palpitations (if thats what they are). I really don't know what to think anymore. I don't smoke, drink or even drink, or caffine, I may have a cup of instant coffee with some milk every day or every other day.
 
  mick  Posted: 11/04/2006 17:43
aussieforgood: I can relate to this one and have been like it for some time. If you are not happy with your doc's opinion, then get another one (I do, they don't like it very much, but you need to remember you are important and you need reassuring). My palp's touch wood have been under control for a few months (touch wood) but I still get the heavy pounding at times. Every morning I get them when I arise for about 15 mins and when I eat food in any amount. Today I went out with the family and had a breathless tight chested episode, that scared all of us. I am now quite weary and still don't know if I have a problem with my heart or if it's a painic attack? Not having suffered from the latter that I know of, there will be no way of telling until I have an angiogram. I have been back to the cardiologist twice and he says I am ok, after my stress and halter monitor trial "it's just benign eptopics" he says. Easy for him to say. However, given I have a family history of Isoschemia he has agreed to do an angiogram. So I am waiting for that, maybe the waiting is making things worse, as I do think about it. Anyway aussieforgood, you are not alone here, and don't forget doctors are not Gods, they are human too with all the frailties that come with it.
 
  George(NIV39780)  Posted: 12/04/2006 21:06
I have noted a number of posts regarding magnesium. For an authoritative overview of magnesium, go here: http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/magnesium.asp
 
  Mick  Posted: 14/04/2006 13:59
Excellent post George, a worthwhile read for all!
 
  jenny  Posted: 14/04/2006 20:52
hya i live in england and find all your stories really helpfull. i have been having palpatations since i was 13 i am now 33 and still suffer,my gp says the same thing stress ? they still worry me now as they did when i first got them i also suffer from panic attacks also since i was about 19 so i know how you all feel .just wish they would go away and i could live a normal life.
 
  marnia  Posted: 15/04/2006 12:53
George..Agree with Mick..the best info. I've had on magnesium and potassium ever...have passed it on to several friends who may not suffer from A.Fib. but the information would be relevent to their health issues..Ta for taking the time to let us know about it. Good luck and good health
 
  MJT  Posted: 15/04/2006 13:13
There seems to be a connection between palpitations and overload of iron caused by haemochromotosis. This is a simple test and will be done by your GP
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 19/04/2006 20:51
Hi, I'm new here and I am so relieved to have found this site. When I was carrying my son this time last year I started to experience what felt to me like serious palpitations.I told my obstetrician and he immediately sent me for a 48 hour holter test....this came back as showing very little so I was sent for a heart scan which came up as normal also bar for a " normal thickening of the left ventricle ".Anyway, (I'll try to be as short as I can) since then they've very much been part of my everyday life.My GP has said I have acute anxiety ( I had a tough pregnancy ) but I'm just having trouble believing it can all be down to anxiety??They got so bad last week I ended up in A&E thinking they'd just check me over and send me off yet again...but they didn't. They admitted me saying I have an irregular heartbeat. This has simply put the fear of God into me but they were unfazed saying it's very common and now that I have them I've become prone to them!!I don't want to live with them for the rest of my life,they terrify me and I want to live a normal life for my two children and husband as well as for me.I don't drink,smoke or do drugs...so why me??
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 21/04/2006 05:06
i've had palpitations for many years and i just want you all to know that there are many causes for for them and most are harmless. you should get them checked out but if you are told by a cardiologist not to worry then by all means try not to. i wouldnt worry unless you start passing out if you have been checked out. the reason i say this is because i have let myself worry so much about them that i have developed a SEVERE panic disorder that is totally out of control. my life is not in a good place and it ALL started over palpaitations that have been going on for about 20 years. if i have had them for 20 years then i guess i should have listened to my doctors and my life wouldnt be in the condition its in right now. anxiety and panic attacks can totally take over your life very quickly so PLEASE try to stay calm. i wouldnt wish my health problems on anyone and it all started with my palpitations. remember that the fear of the palpitations will cause anxiety that will cause anxiety and panic attacks and will make your palpitations worse and it just goes in a circle from there that never stops. please dont let yourself get that far.
 
  marie  Posted: 24/04/2006 00:53
I am 34, female, weighing 180.0 and having a cholesterol of 380. I was put on Lipitor 20mg a month ago, and joined a health club to work off the weight. I have been having palpitations, before and after working out, also chest pains and feeling dizzy. I am ordered by GP to have a stress test on Tuesday. I also am taking care of an 11 yr old daughter who has bipolar disorder and have been stressed out for much of my life. Does anyone have the same symptoms as me, as far as, stress, high cholesterol and overweight??
 
  marnia  Posted: 24/04/2006 11:52
Hi Carol in US..Marnia in Ireland...I agree with what you say...once the condition has been diagnosed and taken care of..that is only half the battle...no matter how many times GP and Cardiologist tells you its not life-threatening..when you are in the middle of an attack..I don\'t care how many times they say that it\'s okay...I feel frightened and want reassurance that it will be ok..after all this is the organ that keeps you alive...last night just as I was retiring to bed...it started again..and I just got angry and said to myself this is not going to rule my life...I\'m tired and I want to sleep..so had a warm shower and got to bed and it worked..probably coincidence but I felt a little bit more in control...so maybe a positive attidude helps..who knows?
 
  Ty  Posted: 24/04/2006 16:37
As mentioned before, I suggest magnesium to help curtail the problem. I have found it really helps, but I can tell you that I still get pvc's daily. Like the rest of you, even though I have been told that my heart is healthy, the sensation of pvc's makes me anxious. I just had a 24hr holter monitor test, and another echocardiogram which came back "clear". Pvc's or "ectopic beats" feel like a fluttering, or sometimes a hard beat which I can feel in my throat. It only lasts for a second or two before the normal heart beat resumes. As Marnia said in her post, we all have to avoid letting the problem rule our thoughts, and our daily life. No matter how much we take comfort in the group discussions, and in knowing there are so many who suffer the same problem, it remains a personal battle. Stay healthy, eat well, and try to rise above the urge to dwell on the problem.
 
  Mag Fan  Posted: 25/04/2006 20:34
Hello Everyone, First i want to thank Dr. Leonard for this very usefull site. Really thanks. It was one first week in 4 years that i was able to ignore the palpitations i have. i will share my experience later as i think some people may find it usefull, however, i do have two small questions: 1- When is magnesuim supposed to kick in, i mean i have been taking Mag supplements as 100mg a day as i followed some of the advices here and made a blood test were i found that my calcuim is to the roof and my magnesuim is below the lower limit, so how long would it take it to stabilise?? 2- What is the COQ10, i can not find it in the pharmacy? 3- I started taking 1000 Fish Oil a day, so when is it also supposed to kick in? Final request, can eveyone who posts put his e mail in if he is ok with that as some time it would be very usefull to contact the erson on his mail for more details, thanks everyone for the help My Email: Scorpion____1975@hotmail.com
 
  Eyecandy-welshgirl  Posted: 26/04/2006 10:37
Re: shawswelshgirl Posted: 19/04/2006 20:51. Hi everyone, i have been coming to this site for reassurance for the past few months. For the last 4 years i have suffered from an irregular heart beat but this was only approx once a month and because of this i suffered minor anxiety and panic attacks. In November 2005 i got pregnant. I am currently 6 months pregnant with my 1st child. At approx 8/10 weeks of the pregnancy i noticed the palpitations were getting worse and as my pregnancy has progressed i am getting more and more daily. I was told by 3 or 4 GP's that it was common and just to ignore it and that anxiety made it worse. So for 3 months i tried to ignore it and tried out various anxiety reducing techniques etc. But they still kept coming. I am on the NHS waiting list for the cardiologist but was told it could be upto 18 months. So being anxious about labour anyway with the added stress of my palpitations i have decided to pay private. Alot of money later.... i have had the echo and i am due to have 24 hour monitor tonight. Results next week. I wanted to ask shawswelshgirl if she had the palpitations in pregnancy? I do believe anxiety and panic make them worse but if i didn't have the palpitations in the first place then i wouldn't be bloody anxious/panicking. Like most other people on here i am exhausted by dealing with these and looking for answers. It's reassuring to know your not the only one. My email - R.CORSI@NTLWORLD.COM
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 26/04/2006 18:53
to my fellow welshgirl!!.. I/ve just read your post and I'm about to put my children to bed, give me a little while and I'll reply...although in answer to your question,yes I had bad palpitations in pregnancy. Apparently all being down to the extra blood you have to pump around your body.Catch you later and try to stop worrying ( impossible I know!! )
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 26/04/2006 20:46
Hi, In response to eyecandy-welshgirl 26/4/06.......I'd had a really tough pregnancy from the word go. My now-husnabd was paralysed for four months during my whole first trimester after a car accident in work, then my daughter's dad dropped dead from a massive heart attack aged just 35 straight after my husband by the grace of God regained the use of his legs.Then I started to pass out and ended up in hospital for 3 weeks having a nasty C-section at the end of it. My pregnancy was just awful so having palpitations on top of it was the 'icing' on a very big cake.What does alarm me is that you weren't immediately sent to be checked over.I told my obstetrician I was having nasty palpitations in a routine appointment...he got me on an ECG machine AND strapped up to a holter monitor the same day with a heart scan less than a week later,I swear to you that's the truth.Stress to them how frightened you are---you need reassurance NOW,although as you say,you've gone privately. I personally think that's just awful but then I'm not a doctor,who knows what explanations they have?! I have palpitations to this day. Some days I won't have one, then there'll be others I'll have them all day. They can literally floor me I get so terrified,I've become phobic about heart attacks,cancer, ill health...you name it, I fear it which just makes them worse. My obstetrician told me that pregnancy and palpitations " go hand in hand "....which is of no comfort to me 9 months down the line and still having them!I've driven my husband mad by endless hours on the internet searching for answers or reasons behind them--I've just come to the point that I think I'm just as unlucky as us all in here. Nobody can understand how truly terrifying they are until they feel them themselves.I'm not going to tell you to ignore them because it's a physical impossibility.You'll be absolutely fine in labour I promise you...it doesn't tickle but the pain is nothing compared to how you'll feel holding your little one for the first time. If your fear really is getting out of hand though I'm sure they have groups that you can meet women who have the same fears etc...I'll be honest, I've had a normal delivery and a section and if I had a choice it would be natural every time...so it can't be that bad!!!!When the palpitations start with me I tell my husband as at that time I become totally irrational thinking I'm going to die....having someone on hand to calm you down really does help,it certainly works for me.Let me know how you get on and loads of luck to you and your bump x
 
  Joe  Posted: 26/04/2006 22:25
I am 59 and was diagnosed 10 months ago with AF (Atrial Fibrillation). My heart is healthy (T.G.)but got this AF from nowhere. It is no fun, I had my episods about once in a month. I was reducing dose on Toprol (25 mg.) Bata blocker that my cardialogist prescribed, but with occuring episods had to take a full dose (also aspirin). I even had to reduce some of the strenuous activities like playing football. Just reasently had more episods of AF again with a full Toprol dose. I tried Q10 200 mg a day but it gave me a chest pressure in heart area. So next step Cord. tell me to put me on Sotalol (Betapace) to try to control the AF. They will try it for me admiting for 3 days in hospital to control reaction to this medication (I live in US and this is in Cleveland Clinic). If this med. will not work, the next stem is PVAI (ablitation) with catheter with applying energy to the heart pulmonary vein to produce a scar to block impulses firing from within the pulmanary veins. Any one of the readers went thru the PVAI? Or Rhythm control medication?
 
  chris  Posted: 27/04/2006 08:07
Wonderful group! I was sick for a week with the flu, then got stressed selling my home, then BANG, the palpitations began! Yes - 2 doc visits - blood OK, EKG shows a dropped beat - doc says many people live active, long lives with it - think nothing of it. Will have echo-cardiogram next week. I am really interested in the Magnesium effect. Will try - though overdoses of Mg can cause heart disease and other effects. This has been a tiring last 7 days, as my wife has been away on a trip and I am taking care of my 2 kids - scary to think I won't make it thru the night - but I have to (we all do) remember the palps are harmless. Anyhoo, I get then mostly when I retire for the evening at home. Not too much at work, though the sensation (if you understand) is always there. What really helps is going to the gym after work and doing cardio, weights, tennis, etc., where I feel like my old self for many hours. Finally, I have a sneaking suspicion that these awful palps are connected to my body/mind being stressed from illness/life in ways I can not normally sense. (I also find it morbidly interesting that there aren't a lot of people saying they've had palps their whole, long, glorious life. Hmmm...) Any old-time palpers here to reassure us we have a normal life span, in spite of the palps? gulp! Be well all. Chris
 
  Mary  Posted: 28/04/2006 08:55
Just to note - my Gran also had palpitations - right up to the ripe old age of 91!!
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 28/04/2006 15:18
shawswelshgirl- I sometimes wonder "Why Me," as well. I'm 25 years old and I started getting severe palpitations about 8 months ago. First they diagnosed me with Panic disorder and then they found out I have PSVT. I was so mad, because all along I was telling them something was wrong and everyone thought it was just anxiety. They even tried putting me on anxiety medication!! I found out that doctors tend to misdiagnose many women with anxiety disorder when it is really something like PSVT. Anyway, some nights I will be woken up out of my sleep with a racing heart and I feel like I'm going to die. I don't know about the rest of you, but I get this immobilizing fear that is horrible! My hands and feet start sweating and I think it is the end. I tend to get palpitations almost every day, some days more than others. I just want you to know you are not alone!! As I'm sure you know from visiting this website already!! I've been here off and on since the palps started and everyone here is so helpful. I stopped taking my calcium channel blockers because they were not working, now I'm putting this all in God's hands. The problem is, it is starting to progress into anxiety big time. I am really trying to get my fear under control... Carol in U.S. - I have a couple questions for you about anxiety attacks if you don't mind. My e-mail address is Sky_Fae24@yahoo.com if you could please drop me a line so I can ask you a few questions!! Thanks! Everyone have a wonderful day!!
 
  TRCM  Posted: 28/04/2006 15:37
I am curious...many different discussions on treatment for palpitations, but my question is what are the symptoms everyone experiences? For me, I get a sensation of a hard beat, and if I check my pulse when it happens, I can sometimes "catch" the pause of the skipped beat. Sometimes I also get a fluttering sensation that I can feel up into my throat. When it happens, I always become anxious, but it usually only lasts a few seconds and then passes. I have had many tests, ECG, Holter Monitor, Echocardiograms, blood pressure monitors, blood tests, and I am told to ignore it and move on with my life. I don't experience episodes of rapid heartbeat (tachyardias), just the odd skipped beat sensation...I can't imagine being able to "ignore it" when it happens...anyone else having similar symptoms??
 
  Joe  Posted: 28/04/2006 16:40
Responce to Chris from 27/4. My card. said that palps can lead to a blood clot and a possible heart attack, etc. Also, if you are getting them while driving you can get in a car accident by getting light headed and getting unconsious. So, I would not take it lightly and get to see cardialogist. Good Luck, Joe
 
  TITO  Posted: 28/04/2006 20:04
Hello chris, Rest assured, the Palps are really very popular and wide in the nations, simply you have noticed them while many others have them and they do not know, On this forum and in many other palpitation forums you will find many people suffering from different kind of Palps, Extra Systoles ( Ectopic Beats), AF's and they have been in this for 20 and 30 years with the Palps on and Off. So really do not worry ( If you are given the all clear from your doctor). My Doctor have PAC's (Atrial Extra Systole - Premature Atrial Contractions) since he was 28 and he is now 59. So as long as you make the correct medical Checks ( WHICH IS A MUST) and get the OK from you Cardiologist so you have to face your mental challenge of ignoring them.It is a matter of choice my freind. How many do you have per day? My Email is ( T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com)
 
  TITO  Posted: 28/04/2006 20:09
Chris, i forgot to mention that my mother suffered from Extrasystole and AF since the age of 32 and she died at 54 of Breast cancer and she was strong enough to have a full blast life with many business travels and a full active lifestyle. Be well, TITO
 
  dgdg  Posted: 30/04/2006 06:58
Well, I wanted to join in on the discussion. I am very interested in cardiac health because of problems I recently suffered. Basically, I was an overweight, smoker male and was having PVCs and palpitations (in the form of a thumping heart). I have taken steps to reduce stress by sleeping more and I started going to the gym/eating right and have dropped about 50 pounds. The problem is I still drink caffeine. As I post this message, my heart is thumping and I'm kicking myself for drinking so much coke this evening. It keeps me from sleeping and it makes me have palpitations to the extent that I can't sleep. Luckily I've been checked by a cardio in the past couple month who said I had a healthy heart and I'm getting re-checked again this Wednesday. All I can add is that the psychological impact of heart palpitations is the worst part - you can't sleep, you think you're going to die, you go to the emergency room so many times. But this can be overcome by making positive changes in your life.
 
  TITO  Posted: 30/04/2006 22:01
All, ARRYTHMIA AND RELATED PHSYCLOGICAL STATE CAN BE BEATEN. please find below my experience with the palpitations which I do have it has been 4 years. I am not a doctor and have no medical background but I made a deep research about the palpitations to the extend I used to study about them and then go to a cardiologist to whom I paid money simply to discuss with him and check my understanding. I know how much these are annoying and how much they can defocus anyone; I do really understand the mental challenge of ignoring them. IF AND ONLY IF you are given the Ok and the ALL CLEAR from your doctor, so face your mental challenge of ignoring them, they are very common and they happen to everyone and 95% of them is benign and people do not even notice them, I work as manager in a company, so I took a sample of 9 people including myself raging from 28 years old to 43, I asked them to check their pulse, and I found the following: 5 out ot the 9 were having regular pulse with no complain, one was having between 1 to 30 Extrasystole / day depending on how stressed he is and what he ate and he was going crazy about them (43 years old), one was having them all time and simply did not know about them (28 Years old), one was having them when stressed and when tired or when took too much caffeine (37 Years old), and one was having them with exertion and with stress and with digestion issues (30 years old). One friend of mine is having AF in PSVT on exertion since 15 yeas and he just started to take medications. In a study shared on the internet, a sample from the American marines were checked and around 20% of them were having Extrasystoles with a good number per day, Palpitations will come and go throughout your life like any normal person, so ignore them ( If you are given the ALL CLEAR from your CARDIO), of course you need to do some actions to enhance your lifestyle and try to reduce them, but HOWEVER ignore them, it is a matter of choice, do not let them ruin your life, they are like a nasty friend, if you continue focusing on them, they will never leave you in peace and remember ( Worry = Missed Beats = More worry = More missed Beats,….). Again it is a matter of choice, they will happen any way, (Do not ever think that they will disappear completely from your life, HOWEVER they may be tremendously reduced and even vanish for some long times through some regimes that I will discuss later) so if you focus on them, you will loose your life and if you neglect them, you gain your life back and worrying about them will not push them out, actually that makes them more welcomed!! So try to leave your life to the fullest. BUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO HELP OURSELVES? 1- If you are a smoker. STOP SMOKING NOW, Why? Basically for two reasons: A- Short term, The stimulating effect of the cigarette NICOTINE is really strong, do not fool yourself about one or two cigarettes a day, I remember three times in five years one morning cigarette sent me to the ER with Sinus Tacky Cardia up to150 BPM with lots of PAC's. So they really have a stimulating effect on the heart muscle very quick. B- Long Term, because one big factor that your palpitations are benign is that you have structurally normal heart, which you will not have if you continue smoking and continue clogging your arteries. If you find it difficult, try the book "The Easy Way to Stop SMOKING" by Allen Gar, this helped me a lot 2- Check your stomach (GIT) state, colon issues are very common to induce Palpitations and also the relations between GERD, osophegous inflammation and Palpitations has been strongly established, so take over the counter ALOE Vera Soft Gels ( 2 per day) or get COLONA (Sulpiride + Mebeverine HCL) – after aligning with your GP - Very safe drug introduced since the 70's but has great effect on the colon and the palpitations. I did great with me. You can be astonished of the results I did not believe I had any issue with my Colon until I tried. 3- CHECK YOUR BLOOD MAGNESUIM AND CALCUIM AND POTASUIM, if your calcium is high and your Magnesium is low, it is time to introduce some MAG into your system as per the RDA recommendation, ,so get some around 300 mg of MAG ( Gylcinate, Taurate, Sulphate, Oxide) in two doses before eating, this has proven a lot of help to many people. And actually if your calcium is high and Magnesium is normal, take 300 MG also as the blood test for Magnesium is not accurate as 1 to 2 % of the body magnesium is in the blood and the rest is in the cells and remember that it will take you some time to rebalance the Cal/Mag ratio. If you are low on Potassium, try some bananas and you may think of some potassium supplement for one week, it is fast absorbed and fast restored in the blood. Please check these sites: http://www.vitamin-galore.com/Supp/Potassium.htm, http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,890,00.html, http://www.vitamin-galore.com/Supp/Magnesium.htm#Dosage, 4- If you get the palpitations in tough situations and when really stressed like business confrontations or a fight or when sexually excited, so you may think of introducing a mild beta blocker as this is adrenaline related. If you are at low resting heart rate this may aggravate the problems some palpitations are brady cardia induced. Check with your GP or Cardiologist. 5- Co Enzyme Q10, 100 mg a day, I read great reviews about it, I did not try it yet but many people recommend it as a clear advantage has been felt. Check the below site: http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/coq10.htm, 6- EXERCISE EXERCISE EXERCISE, this is A great tool, at least walk vigorously 4 times a week for 30 – 40 mins, you will be astonished of the results, this makes you feel great, gives a better mood, depletes the adrenaline from your body and create a healthier heart. 7- Stay away of the over the counter decongestant, they can induce palpitations 8- HAVE SOME FAITH, if you did all the above and did your best, made the relevant tests, checked with the Cardiologist and followed the above regime, so forget about them, everything is in GOD's hand, so why worry if you did your homework?? 9- If you are pregnant, rest assured, Palpitations and pregnancy go hand in hand, most probably your symptoms will disappear once you deliver 10- DO NOT CHECK YOUR PULSE. Measuring your pulse is a constant method of reminding yourself that you have an issue, YOU ARE NORMAL so make an oath with your self not to measure it again, this will help as many times you will not be sure whether the sensation you felt was a missed beat or not. Finally, live your life to the fullest, ENJOY IT. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share my learning's and hope I was of some help. TITO Please feel free to contact me if you thin I can be of any help, My Email: T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com
 
  Eyecandy-welshgirl  Posted: 06/05/2006 15:53
Hello all, well i had my results from the cardiologist and basically the echocardiogram came back as normal. It did say mild thickening of the mitral valve but every was normal. The 24 hour monitor picked up a number of palpitations (it's funny cause i didn't think i had many and the day i had the tape on was quite a good day) anway they picked up a number of premature beats which is what i knew i was having anyway. Dr said that thousands of people get these and they are nothing to worry about (easy for him to say) Only treatment comes in the form of Beta Blockers but because i'm pregnant they dont particulary want to give them to me so i have to wait until after i've given birth and see if they carry on. I asked him why they occur? As usual his reply was Smoking, alcohol, caffine and exercise can make them worse but i do not do any of these and he then said that they were unsure why the occur. I May try beta blockers after the birth???? until then i must struggle on through this. Hope everyone is well. Thanks for the advice TITO, i just wish i could stop worrying about them .
 
  Debbie  Posted: 07/05/2006 21:27
So glad to find you all here - have been having flutters and tightening in my chest on and off for the last 3 weeks and I have been really worried. Would go to be with these flutters and think that my heart would give out during the night so I am very glad to hear about all of your similar situations. havent been to the doctor yet but I will make an appointment tomorrow. I alos suffer from migraines - does anyone know if this could be related at all?
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 08/05/2006 11:24
Hi all. Does anyone have a strange sensation in your chest after one of these flutters or jumps in your chest? When I have a really strong one, I have a feeling in my chest like my heart is tired or something for a while afterwards. Thanks.
 
  TITO  Posted: 08/05/2006 14:31
Hi Eyecandy-welshgirl, i am no doctor and have no medical background but please find below my theory, i disagree with your statement "I asked him why they occur? As usual his reply was Smoking, alcohol, caffine and exercise can make them worse but i do not do any of these and he then said that they were unsure why the occur". Actually, you did something, you got pregnant, and trust me this go hand in hand with it. if youused to have them before pregnancy, so they will increase in pregnancy, if you never had them before, so most propably they will start in pregnancy. It is basically coming from two sides, 1- The fact that you carry a big load which made you stomach elevated and the diaphram elevated and this causes irritation to the upper part of the body just like having gazes ( Which is a common reason for palpitations) but pregnancy is much complex. 2- The changes which take place in your metabolism and how your body reacts to the pregnancy are also a common cause for them to take place. So rest assured, you are NORMAL and they will decrease a lot after you deliver, BUT EXPECT THEM TO INCREASE A LITTLE WITH TIME TILL YOU DELIVER, 3 months to go so good luck. I would like you to leave the Beta- Blocker option as really the last option in hand, try other alternatives, MAGNESUIM, CoQ10, DIET, EXCERCISE and also try IGNORING THEM before you decide to go on a medication for no real need. According to the doctors, you are not in a different risk than any body else. Enjoy your life, and hope you deliver a very quite healthy baby, thanks My Email: T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com
 
  Angie  Posted: 08/05/2006 17:51
Hi Tito - you seem to know a lot about this issue. I have bradycardia induced palpitations and mild mitral valve prolapse (which can also lead to palps). My cardiologist diagnosed a level II heart block but told me basically not to worry unless I start passing out! An echo showed my heart to be structurally normal so it is an electrical problem. I do exercise and eat healthy, have never smoked, drink little. I'd be interested to read your thoughts.....and anyone else, especially if anyone else has bradycardia induced palps rather than AF, etc.
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 08/05/2006 21:20
Angie.... I have a heart block also (electrical) and I get bradycardia while sleeping and tachycardia during daytime and sometimes wake up with it at night also. My dr. told me the same thing.... dont worry unless I start passing out. Actually I have had 2 different cardiologist tell me that over the last few years. Im 40 yrs old and going through perimenopause and this has cause a big increase in my palps but thank GOD, I have not passed out yet in 20 yrs but have been feeling pretty dizzy lately. (knock on wood) Did your dr. tell you the only treatment for you is a pacemaker? Thats what all mine have said. I was also told that my heartrate and rythm is just normal for me, there is no EXACT standard you must live within, some people have a little faster or a little slower than some people. But of course Im not talking an extreme difference. I usually run about 105 to 120, sometimes up to 150 with my panic attacks (and my palps are insane during those times) and anything over 100 is considered tachycardia. My bradycardia at night is usually about 50 I think.
 
  TITO  Posted: 08/05/2006 22:11
Hello Angie, sorry for your palps, can you please answer the following questions: 1- How old are you?and since when you have them? Have they increased? 2- How do you feel during exercise? How severe is your execise? what type of execise you do? ( Cardio, Weight,...?) 3- Do you get any palps during execise? 4- After Exercise? 5- How many do you have/Day? 6- Any special thing triggering them? 7- When you stand up do you get any? 8- Are you diagnosed with PAC's or PVC's or both? 9- Did you try any medications? 10 - Do you take ANY medications now for ANYTHING? 11 - what is your resting heart rate? Sleeping hear rate (if you have made a Holter)? Sorry Angie for the long list of questions but i think they may help, thanks, TITO, My Email: T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com
 
  Angie  Posted: 09/05/2006 17:19
First to Carol - sounds like we have very similar problems! I don't get tachycardia though and my heart rate during the day rarely goes above 70 unless I exercise. At night the holter registered as low as 30. Yes, my doctor also mentioned that I may need a pacemaker someday. In response to Tito. I am almost 50. Started having palps about 4 years ago - coinciding with menapause. The first episode was the worst, probably because I was very scared. I feel fine during exercise and get only an occasional flutter. I have a fairly rigorous routine of fast, uphill walking on a treadmill (30 mins per day) with resistance and weight training. After exercise I do get a few flutters. Some days I have no palps at all then there are others when they seem to happen continually. Coffee, alcohol trigger them as well as getting really upset. I do not get any when I stand up. I do have PVCs. No medications except for occasionally Ambien or Sonata to sleep (post menapause). My resting heart rate is around 60 and sleeping rate has been as low as 30. Thanks for your interest......
 
  TITO  Posted: 09/05/2006 18:07
Angie, four more questions: 1- Who told you that you have them as bradycardia induced?? Do you really have more during sleep? 2- What is your excersing heart rate? 3- Do you feel dizzy or lightheaded during the day? 4- Are you an anxious person, worrier, or do you suffer from any anxiety forms? sorry for asking too many questions? regards, TITO My Email: T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com
 
  TITO  Posted: 12/05/2006 21:33
Hello Angie, Hope you are feeling better, as you know i am no doctor and with no medical backgrownd, however please find below my advice: it is true that you should not worry untill you start fainting, Despite the fact that the Beta Blockers are very effective with Mitral Valve prolapse with premature beats, however in your heart block case this is completly out of the question, so i think you should start looking in to Daily doses oof CoQ10 twice per day and Magnesuim 100 - 150 mg day, i also think that you case could be helped with some medication so i made a serach in the MDA and please find below what i quoted: " Treatment depends on the type of block. First-degree heart block requires no treatment. Exercise or drug treatment that decreases vagal tone (anticholinergics) may reverse Mobitz type I, but generally, this type requires no treatment as long as the ventricular heart rate remains normal. Should the ventricular rate become low or the condition progresses to Mobitz type II, a drug that speeds the rate of electrical impulse conduction (anticholinergics or sympathomimetics) may be prescribed and cardiac depressants withheld. If Mobitz type II develops following MI, a temporary pacemaker may be inserted prophylactically. For third-degree heart block, anticholinergics or sympathomimetics may be prescribed and a temporary or permanent pacemaker inserted" Angie, hope i was of some help.thanks. TITO My Email: T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 16/05/2006 03:05
Hi All. My doctors told me that beta blockers will make a heart block worse. I had a family doctor put me on tunorman (atenolol) (i know that spelling isnt correct)and the cardiologist said.... BAD, took me off. It will slow your heart rate too much and make the arrythmia worse. ALSO, all this talk about magnesium, I looked it up and there are drugs that you may be taking that lower the magnesium in your blood. One of them is cortisteriods meaning asthma inhalers and predisone. I use a high dosage of my asthsma inhaler so maybe that may apply to some of you out there also. my email is sweazys2002@yahoo.com if anyone wants to talk. Thanks.
 
  Mick  Posted: 19/05/2006 17:14
TRCM reply: Yes, been through all of that and all the beta blockers the chemist holds and some anti-arithmic meds, so you have my sympathy. To cap it all I have a family history of "Hearts" Isoschemia (my Father died of this) and my grandfather had a heart attack at 50. For this reason my cardiologist said he would do an angiogram, which I had two weeks ago. The Surgeon even brought on the palps for me during the op (good of him don't you think). But I did get the all clear. All I can say is, it is frightening and the stress makes it 10 times worse, I think I am going to die every time it happens and I have also had a couple of Panic Attacks. The only thing that helps for me is talking to likeminded folk, here for instance. A friend at work says her mother is really scared, she possibly has angina and she is waiting for an angio too, I have given her this forum and my number so she can phone me, cause I was petrified of the op as well! We will all try to look out for each other here! All the best Mick
 
  Peter/Quebec/Canada  Posted: 19/05/2006 18:52
Hi,Thanks so much for this site. I have had palps for quite some time but they never really bothered me all that much...until this week that is. Early in the week I woke up with my heart racing and that funny missed or extra beat feeling. I tried to relax and fugured I had had too much caffeine in chocolat and diet coke and tea. The rapid pulse and the palps went away. Yesterday it happened again only worse so I went to the ER had blood work done and an EKG. Nothing in the blood and the doc said that the EKG was pretty normal except for the odd extra beat. He ordered a HOLTER test in 3 weeks time. After reading a lot of the posts, it was so reassuring to realize that there were other people feeling like I do... I get really anxious/stressed when the palps start and know that that is not good at all. I do meditate/exercise/eat well but have decided to cut out coffee/tea/chocolate(boohoo)/diet cola drinks. Regarding magnesium, I am already taking this because I also have asthma. It may help relax the lung muscles. AS well, I can't tolerate the "rescuer" drugs like ventolin. I HAD been trying to drink coffe as it can help one breathe better. Caffeine contains theophyline as do the rescuer drugs. Needless to say, this didn't help the palps. So, again, it is great to have read so much. I feel so much better. I will try some of the suggestions you have made.
 
  Bill  Posted: 21/05/2006 18:24
Hello all,interesting discusion. I've had Atrial fib on and off for a few years then last November it started and has been that way since.Its a very unnerving and uncomforting feeling. On top of that i've high cholesterol and high blood pressure. I'm a non smoker and since Nov a non drinker.Age is 61 and weight is 12 stone.My cardiologist has set up an appointment (whenever) for to have my heart stopped and restarted but didn't sound to confident it would be a success. He then mentioned about a procedure called "maze" (gulp)I'm wondering if any of you heard about this procedure or would it be best to stay ignorant? Regards
 
  karine(EHN47241)  Posted: 25/05/2006 02:36
I have experienced heart palpatations several times a day, about 8, now for three weeks. I literally feel like my heart is flipping when it happens, like an extra irregular heart beat. It's scary. I have experienced the same thing about four years ago for awhile, and it was a very stressful time. This past year has been very stressful for me, as I have moved to a new state with my family, and new business, new house. I dont drink much coffee, dont smoke, dont drink and am a thin 43 year old woman. I have had my ECG results confirming 8 missed beats (8 V-tach)? what does that mean?? the arrhythmia analysis says 2/HR VPS, 5 PAIR, 1 RUN 7 BEATS. It also says 5 episodes of ST elevation were detected. no depression and no event strips. total number of pauses was 0. total atypical runs:1. Please tell me what all this means, it has got me very worried.
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 27/05/2006 04:33
karine (EHN47241) - best thing to do is to sit down with your doctor and make him explain in detail, step by step, what each instance means. I think sometimes our doctors forget we dont speak the same "language" as they do.
 
  Toni  Posted: 28/05/2006 18:15
What a wonderful forum to have found! I have been experiencing palpitations for about 7 years now and have always thought there should be some sort of support group for this 'ailment'. When I started getting them I always felt like I was the only one. This is obviously not true. I really do identify with the feelings of fear and helplessness that palpitations can cause. It has been a real challenge to not let them rule my life. I am trying day by day to not let them get to me. Like many of you, my palpitations come in the form of feeling my heart skip or flutter. Sometimes it feels like my heart is tripping over itself. Other times I have felt extra beats. There will be points where I don't get them at all and other points where I have them a few times in the day. I have had holters, EKGs, a Eco-cardiogram, an event monitor and lots of blood work. It's very frustrating that anytime I have been monitored (ekg or holter) nothing happens. The event monitor (I wore this for a month) picked up activity however. Any Dr I have seen has said not to worry and that what I am experiencing are normal ectopic beats and I am one of those people who feels every single one whereas others may not (lucky devils). Most Physicians have been very kind though I feel like my current Dr thinks I am crazy. It is so frustrating to try and convey to people in my life that what I experience is so scary because unless they have felt the sensation of feeling their heart jump and leap crazily they could not possibly understand! So I am here to say I understand the terror and the feeling of powerlessness that these sensations cause. I wish you all well.
 
  Mick  Posted: 28/05/2006 20:38
Karine, I agree with Carol, go to your doctor as soon as possible and get him/her to explain the details. Please try not to worry, it will make things seem much worse. (VT)Ventricular tachycardia is a rapid heart beat initiated within the lower chambers of the heart, 3 or more consecutive premature ventricular beats indicate VT. (2 hr vps) Indicates that the was the duration time transmission sent on the equipment that was used to monitor you. 5 Pair? ST elevation sometimes indicates Angina, you don't say if you get chest pain or not? If it was unstable they would have had you in hospital like a shot and given blood thinning agents (Asprin/Warfarin) and probably an antiarithmic. If you have not been given anything that's a good sign! 1 run means it happend once while you were wearing the monitor. It's probably a one off, get back to the doc and take someone with you, or take questions to ask. I am not an expert, so don't take my explanations as a diagnosis of anything. These doctors have a lot to answer for you know making us worry like this. Let us know how you got on. All the best. Mick
 
  c(MGF45964)  Posted: 29/05/2006 00:13
I have been taking two doses of 400 mg Magnesium taurate a day for the past month and my palpitations are 99% gone! Its like I have my life back. I stopped taking the magnesium a few times and the palps came back for sure, and when I returned to the magnesium, they went away. Not a robust study for sure, but I am quite happy with the effects. My doctor gave a strong skeptical tone when I mentioned the magnesium - lol, not something he prescribed, so it must be snake oil nonesense. I would like to take a poll of those using magnesium (oxide, taurate, others) and know if the effects have been positive, negative, or none. Also - how long you have been taking it and the daily dose. - If I drink more than 3 beers at a party, I feel the palps at midnight for a few hours - maybe GI track related. -Chris (male, 36)
 
  marnia  Posted: 29/05/2006 13:28
Hi Chris..Good idea for the poll on magnesium takers. Having found this forum last Nov (2005) I have been taking Sona Cal/Mag twice daily..Calcium(Carbonate Gluconate)500mg Magnesium(Oxide Carbonate) 250mg ..Magnesium also helps asthma sufferers..and because some of the meds. for asthma i.e. cortisone..affects bone density..I felt in my case and age (64) calcium combination would be good..please anyone let me know your thoughts on this..Please let us know the results of your poll, Chris..All the best. Marnia
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 30/05/2006 15:57
Carol in U.S. Posted: 08/05/2006 11:24 Hi all. Does anyone have a strange sensation in your chest after one of these flutters or jumps in your chest? When I have a really strong one, I have a feeling in my chest like my heart is tired or something for a while afterwards. Thanks. Hey Carol- After I have PSVT attacks my heart feels like this. Sometimes I get this uncomfortable sensation/pressure under my left breast and usually then I end up with a PSVT attack...the doctors don't know why this is. And as I said at first, when I experience palpitations or a PSVT attack and night my heart feels very strange and tired. So you are not alone!!
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 30/05/2006 19:05
Chris - great idea about the poll! Since I started taking 400-600 Mag Glycinate daily, I have been 99% symptom free (just premenstrual symptoms now). I tried Mag Taurate and Mag Oxide - no results. When I stop the Mag Glycinate, symptoms return sure as sunshine! My cardiologist doesn't put any stock in it, but it's hard to argue with the results. Personally, I've discounted the Placebo Effect since Taurate and Oxide did nothing for me (though I didn't expect Oxide to since we only absorb 2% of it - that's why it's so cheap). Looking forward to hearing more results! Best of Health, Stephanie
 
  Ras  Posted: 31/05/2006 10:06
Well folks, I'm an american who lives in south florida. Some what active though I am a hardcore computer geek. As I'm writting this I was having heart palpitations and have been suffering with them for years. my first attack was 3 years when I was 26 aftering being laid off from a good job. 2 weeks later after lay off I woke up one morning and was violently shaking and vomitting and I really thought my body had failed on me and I was gonna die. 2 hours later I felt better but was concerned it would happen again. sure enough, I kept thinking about my heart and health and before I knew it I was having heart palpitations once a day. what was once beautiful black hair is now salt and pepper thanks to the many split moments of feeling dead or dying. However I can get breaks from them. I've had weeks and weeks of no palpitations cause of doing several things. #1. no soda or caffeine/tea #2. less meat or protein taken in the week. If I eat chicken salads and grilled cheese sandwiches and drink alot of water I'm fine. #3. of course I have to get exercise, just a descent walk for about 30 minutes 3 times a week. #4. start speaking my mind, I keep stuff bottled up and I tend to dwell on the past. on may 7th 2006 I had a bad anxiety attack that let to several palps in a few minutes.. I thought for sure I was gonna live up to my promise of less gassy foods and less sugary drinks.. but one glass of tea and here I am looking for a palp support group. oh yeah, it doesn't help that I'm in love with someone I shouldn't be but the heart wants what it wants.. In the end I think what alot of us who suffer palps suffer from is from an unfulfilling life =p good luck to the rest of you, I hope my story helps atleast one person =p
 
  Ford  Posted: 02/06/2006 23:13
Need advice I have SVT palpitations & ectopics. Get them every day. The fast ones are managed quite well with Celiprolol (cardiac beta blocker). So I just now get a few ectopics a day which I can live with but 3 days ago I started getting a lot of ectopics. - Heart beats normally for about 20-30 secs then I get a thump or thump, thump. It lasts all day but if I walk about they will stop and they appear quite badly when I am sitting down or lying, driving. I'm not supposed to eat chocholate, caffeine etc. But two days before this started I had eaten a whole block of chocolate over 2 days. Stupid I know. Did this cause the palps?Don't know if I should go to the doc or not. Will it improve on its own? Normally I do take mangesium via berocca and that makes a huge difference, but it hasn't seemed to have helped this time. My cardiologist previously had said the beta blockers only help the fast palps but not the ectopics so I don't think it will help to increase my dosage.I don't know what else to do. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks :)
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 05/06/2006 10:43
Hi Ras, It seems that being laid off from work might well have started off your palpitations although I know that's hard to believe.If you're anything like me I just find it impossible to link anxiety/stress to them,it seems a bit exaggerated to me.Having said that I've been having them for a while now too and I'm still here so there has to be truth in it!I was away recently for a few weeks visiting my Mum who lives abroad and the saturday before we were due to leave I woke about midnight with that shaking,ligh-headed,nauseous feeling and no matter how I tried to stop it i couldn't.The worse part was I kept thinking that there was actually something wrong with me and because I was in a foreign country i was CERTAIN to die.Ridiculous yes but at the time there was just no reasoning with me at all....I think we all know how terrifying that feeling is and you're not alone.It's a vicious circle isn't it?You get palpitations which brings on the panic and anxiety which in turn makes the palpitations worse....then you end up terrifying yourself with thoughts of ' the next one ' .I've tried cutting caffeine out of my diet and junk food but i still get them.The one thing I HAVE to do is the exercise bit---I'm a married mum of two and I don't stop for 13 or 14 hours of the day so cardio work is by the wayside at the mo!!!I've bought a crosstrainer though so I'm going to try to fit some in today.I bought some supplements yesterday which include magnesium so I'm going to wait to see how they affect me, I'm crossing my fingers.I also agree that hiding your feelings can give palpitations....that's your body's way of telling you that it has to be said!!Even if you just say it calmly,you'll feel such a weight lifted when you're not carrying it around anymore.I feel that if you bottle things inside you can make yourself feel like a doormat by not saying how you feel.I was like it before I had my children.I'd let someone hurt or offend me then beat myself up after the moment had passed thinking ' for God's sake,TELL them!!!'. That said I've spoken my mind a few times and still had them for getting myself worked up!!!With regards to the ' wrong ' person....perhaps avoiding being in their company for a while may help?I don't know,I just think that seeing them when you can't have them can hurt like hell and you don't need that on top of everything else.Either was I hope you're feeling better today as with everyone else on this board.Take care of yourselves.
 
  addy  Posted: 05/06/2006 17:29
I have been getting heart palps for 10 years on and off. just lately been getting them really bad all day been to docs but he wont send me for ecg says its down to nerves and has put me on atenolol its getting me down cos he just wont do tests to see if theres anything wrong with my heart
 
  marnia  Posted: 06/06/2006 18:55
To Addy...Go back to your doctor and INSIST that you have whatever tests necessary to put your mind at ease...he owes you that and that is exactly what he is there for..I know that probably the thought of facing him will stress you..but you owe it to yourself...there are too many doctors who brush off their patients..and if he/she does not agree to have tests done..then find another doctor..don't let the doctor intimidate you...if you are worried even unnecessarily he/she should recognize your anxiety and still be sympathetic and want to sort it for you..Its only when I come accross stories like this that I really appreciate my own GP whom I have been with for thirty+ years ..Good luck and be brave !!!
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 09/06/2006 13:57
I totally agree with marnia. I changed doctors a long time ago after a spout of reasons the final one being I went regarding my palpitations and he threw a prescription at me for iron tablets,told me I was anaemic which I found thoroughly miraculous as he didn't even take blood and then yshered me out of his office before I could say Mary bloody Poppins!! My new doctor is wonderful,she has sent me for various test and is now arranging for me to have a cardiac MRI to put my mind at ease as she nicely put it. Your doctor is totally out of order and paid a hell of a lot of money so go back and tell him what YOU feel you NEED.It's not his heart or his life---don't let him fob you off,too many of them are getting better at it!
 
  tom  Posted: 19/07/2006 05:30
hi guys. ive had heart palpitations now for 3 years. they started after getting a stressfull job. ive been to the doctor and after a 24 heart monitor and an ekg the doctor said it was do to anxiety and stress . its very annoying and now i find myself getting depressed as well.the palpitations can last for minutes or continuesly for 5 or 6 days.this really sucks because im not use to this.im 47 .the doctor told me to go to a shrink. anyway. i guess its part of life now take care everyone
 
  Angie  Posted: 19/07/2006 15:41
I've been taking magnesium (250 mg daily)for a couple of months now and it does seem to be helping. A few times I've forgotten and the palpitations come back. I do still occasionally have that missed beat sensation but not the long lasting and very stressful feeling of my heart beating out of rhythm. Of course my doctor says this is rubbish basically. I have also found that cutting down on carbs seems to help and am wondering if the sudden influx of sugar after a carb-rich meal could precipitate palps. Has anyone else noticed this? I've also begun a real exercise routine and am paying more attention to my diet so the extent that I've lost about 12 lbs. I think that helps too.
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 19/07/2006 17:59
To Tom. Be careful if you go to a shrink. If you are getting depressed they may put you on meds and those type of meds can cause alot of palpitations. I've tried many of those meds and didnt have any luck with them due to the horrible side effects. The one that was the worst for palps was Zoloft. Take care.
 
  Mick  Posted: 19/07/2006 18:59
Tom, Docs that tell you to see a shrink need to take thier own advice! Don't let it or them get you down, change your doc and find a good one. Take care
 
  Ty  Posted: 19/07/2006 21:44
Angie - I have encountered exactly the same thing. I have been taking 250mg of magnesium for 4 months, and it has really helped...I also still get the odd skipped beat (ectopic), or a hard beat sensation that startles me, but rarely do I experience the prolonged skipped beats like past episodes. I have resumed regular exercise by running 5 miles daily for the past 8 months, and it also really helps. Obviously exercise is a good thing, regardless if it cures the palpitations or not...If you look back in previous posts, many people have refered to diminished symptoms and less frequency of palps when exercising. To your point about carbs - I find that carb rich foods obviously make us more "full" feeling...sugars also have the same effect...being full has always increased the incidence of palpitations for me. I really thing magnesium and exercise are great starting points for those suffering from ectopic beats. Hope this helps.
 
  gerry(gandg)  Posted: 23/07/2006 22:07
I have Unstable Angina and have 4 Stent Implants, Recently I am Suffering from a lot of Heart Flutters, Is there any Danger to my Health,
 
  Zee  Posted: 01/08/2006 05:24
Hello I spent the whole day reading most of these posts. I am happy to know that there are people out there that have the same problems I have. I thought I was alone and insane. I have had all the tests done.Echo-Holter-Event-Stress Test with before and after pictures of my heart. I have seen 4 cardiologists and they all say the same thing BENIGN, NOT LIFE THREATENING!!!!! If you haven't die from it yet you probably won't, nice answer!!! I have been on beta blockers and ace inhibitors for over a year. I have high blood pressure and diabetes. I have the blood pressure and diabetes under control with medication but I can't get the Palpitations uncer control. It has destroyed my life. I don't go to far from the house and stay home alot. I get them sometimes 50 times a day and all I do is cry and plan my funeral. Sometimes I can go a week without any. Just when I start to enjoy life here they come. I get them alot at night and I can't sleep. I even quit smoking 10 mos ago and I still get them. I quit caffeine 1 year ago and still get them. I take all my meds and try not to think about them and still get them. It is the most scariest feeling in my life. I could be at my most relaxed time and here they come, flip flop flip flop, sometimes 4-6 in a row. When that happens I fear that my heart is going to stop and never find its way back to normal rhythem. Now the cardiologist wants me to take lanoxin, smallest dosage possible. I am terrified to take it cause I have read bad things about it. I have not started the medication and would like some feed back from everyone if possible. I also read some where that these palpitations can be hormono. Whatever input I can get I would greatly appreciate it. Please!!!! JUST LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TALK TO THAT KNOWS WHAT I'M GOING THREW... HONESTLY!
 
  Ras  Posted: 01/08/2006 10:10
To Jools - from your short description, you sound like the 80% of us who just all of a sudden from stress starts noticing their heartbeat. Subconsciously you've started to pay attention to it and sometimes that can lead to the momentary palpitation you'll feel which leads to the "vicious cycle" of anxiety. just cut your caffeine intake for a while .. drink more water during your day and ya know what .. spend an extra 10 minutes in the shower. meditate. get music from enigma and try to do some breathing/meditating. I gotta tell ya guys.. I think I have this beat. since my last post I haven't had a palp once! I drink water mostly but I will cheat and have 1 or 2 sodas as a treat, I just started to take a few more minutes for myself in the morning, get a little exercise and most importantly.. I don't check if my heart is still beating lol. For some of you I know it might be medical but for alot of us.. it's just mental and I'll be damned if I'll let my mind continue to play tricks on me! -Ras
 
  marnia  Posted: 01/08/2006 13:30
To Zee..You have all the sympathy and understanding that we all can offer over this forum and I'm sure I speak for everyone..this forum would not be here if we weren't all going through the same misery..and we are all ALIVE to tell our tales!! It's awful..it's scary to say the least and it takes over every minute of the day and night...but it REALLY is non life-threatening..hard to believe when Doc is saying that and your heart is going flippity-flop as he's speaking..But DON'T LET IT TAKE OVER!!! I had a funny experience with one Dr. when I ended up in tears of frustration telling him he didn't understand..he waited a few moments and then asked me to feel HIS pulse and it was going funny..then I knew he DID understand but he wasn't too bothered about it..It is annoying, frustrating, aggravating etc.,etc.,,,and changes your whole life..and I made up my mind that it was not going to take control...I had had a lot of crises in my life,..a miserable violent marriage, bad break-up, the loss of a two-day old daughter, and the loss of a beloved twenty-two year old daughter. Now my two boys were happily married, had good jobs, lovely homes and had given me a beautiful grandaughter and I was looking forward to a happy and healthy retirement..then this..I really felt hard-done-by..and I GOT MAD..this was not going to take over after all I'd been through..I had had infrequent episodes since I was a teen and now at 65 it escalated..but I've had it to one degree or another for about 50 years!!! Anyway, enough about me and here are some of the things that work for me. Make sure your DR. is good and sympathetic, have all the tests done, even consider having allergy tests, sometimes the medication takes a little time to get into your system and work properly so give it time, stay away from caffeine, and check, you'd be surprised how many things contain caffeine, try magnesium, have your potassium levels checked, sometimes just taking a banana a day or any high potassium food can settle the problem... and try to distract yourself by doing positive things..Ras has lots of good advice..I used to be afraid to move when it happened..now I clean out a drawer, weed a bit of garden, anything active to distract me. When it happens, the fright starts adrenalin flowing, so use it ...don't get caught in that vicious adrenalin circle, where the fright sets off adrenalin and the adrenalin sets your heart racing... In a situation where active thing are not possible, like on an airplane, try a mantra, sometimes I think I can actually mentally slow and steady the heartbeat..I tend to overbreathe when it happens so I always have my paper bag to breathe into..good for panic attacks..a warm shower, learning to swim, anything to not watch what is going on..and I find I am getting better at it..when I have finished whatever task I have set myself, most times it has settled down..I made up my mind that it was not going to make an invalid of me in these years when I have done my 'duty ' by my family and now in retirement I have time for me. There's lots of good advice on this forum..try whatever it takes to work for you. I have gone on a bit but I'm trying to help with all the things that help me get back control of my life and hopefully you will find something in there to help you!!! As for the Lanoxin, that's a powerful drug and didn't agree with me so have it checked out...And keep in touch with us all..we are here as much as we can be..Good luck and good health. Marnia
 
  Chris  Posted: 02/08/2006 06:25
God help us. I really feel for all of you who suffer like this. I really is a mental battle if the palps are not life threatening, though they might be life quality limiting. I am back in a slump for the past 1.5 weeks, though I am taking Mg and exercising. Now, I sense my flutters are low and heavy, but my chest hurts and I feel fatigued and sluggish. Curious - has the GI/colon connection to heart palps been documented? Has anyone here gone on a colon cleansing or colon sensitive diet? Maybe if I can put my finger in an AC socket I could re-set the heart's rythm....lol Hang in there everyone!!
 
  Beena  Posted: 02/08/2006 13:59
It me again...can i ask that is it true that anxiety induces palpitations too, specially at night, when i lie just waiting for them to happen, and afraid to close my eyes to sleep in case i get palpitations and wake up?
 
  Chris  Posted: 03/08/2006 14:52
Yes, I really believe, from experience, that anxiety brings on heart palps. The bright side of heart palps is that as long as you can exercise ata a sustained rate (a good walk, run, anything aerobic) your heart is strong and you are not anymore likely to have a heart attack that someone else. Sounds like some people have had some successes with controlling anxiety (lifestyle, drugs, meditation, diet, teas etc) to end or significantly reduce heart palps. I think this is a root cause - some of us who suffer from a powerful surge of anxiety - this somehow sets out system off-balance causing chronic though sometimes intermitent periods of heart palps. The question is how to control anxiety and bring our body back on balance (elecrochemically, etc.). Just my overall hunch on this thing thus far. Best - Chris
 
  Sara  Posted: 10/08/2006 02:40
I have been having heart arrythmias for the past 20 years. During the past several years, they have become more frequent. I have been hooked up to Holter monitors and to event monitors. I am now seeing a cardiolist in Austin, Texas that specialises in heart rythyms. He recently put me on Toprol which only slightly helped. During the past two months, the palpataions have become very troublsome, causing me much anxiety. I also tried magnesium and Omega fish oils, whcih only made it worse. Last week I read a posting about Aloe Vera gel capsules. I started taking them 6 days ago and have not had even one palpation. I have always been sceptical about pharmacuetical drugs and about natural products. I know that all of these products can have side effects. I am in total shock that I have not had one palpatation since I stared takin the Aloe Vera gel capsules. It is almost too good to be true. Perhaps it is just coincdental and maybe I have just hit a period where I have not been having the arrythmias. I will definitly keep everyone posted about this. Please let me hear from anyone else that has had success with the Aloe Vera capsules. I will be the most greatful person on this earth if this natural product continues to work!!!! Will keep everyone posted!!!!!
 
  Chris  Posted: 10/08/2006 21:16
Great! I hope this works for you long term. Can you tell us the brand and details of the capsules? Chris
 
  Sara  Posted: 11/08/2006 00:43
Chris, Unfortunatly, I spoke too soon. I started having the palpitations again this morning but it could be from the terrible stress of the attempeted terroist attacks on our airplanes. I work for US Airways so this was enough to put my heart into a panic attack!!! Also, started having severe diahrea today, did some research, and found that this can be a side effect of the aloe vera capsules. But I am going to keep taking them for several more days, as the past 6 days while taking them was the longest time that I have ever goine without having palpitations. The Product is by Natures Way. It is called Aloe Vera Latex & Leaf--550mg. Their website is naturesway.com Am not sure if I want to reccomend them now but will let you know what happens in the next week while taking them. I truely thought that I had discovered a cure so I am very dissappinted to be plagued with a flip flopping heart once again. It is so very annoying. Good luck to you and will let you know in about a week if it really is helping. Sara
 
  Chris  Posted: 11/08/2006 14:49
Sara - So sorry to hear about that - maybe anxiety over recent news is also causing bowel issues? I really believe anxiety causes awful problems for our bodies, short term and lasting. Do you do anything healthy on a daily basis (yoga, aerobic, etc.)? I find going for a 30 job/run 'resets' the beat of my heart and I don't have palps for many days. Running is also good way of releasing stress and anxiety - all connected. Keep us posted!
 
  kallie  Posted: 12/08/2006 20:39
Thank you to all the people on this site - It is really wonderful to know that you are not alone - everyone on this site has made a valuable contribution. My story starts 4 years ago when i developed flu and was given anti biotics together with fle tablets, decongestants, etc. I took all my tablets TOGERTHER in the morning. At this stage I was drinking coffee, eating sweets and basically not leading a very healthy life. Also I had been taking one diet pill a day for twenty years (d-norsephedrine). Today was different they all reacted and there started my paplitations and panic attacks. After mamy doctors later i sought the advise of a homepath who immediately put me on a detox for 3 months. Today I know it was the diet pills together with all the crap i took. The lessons I learnt : 1. I know now that you never take your pills together whatever they are even vitamens - they might have adverse reactions - wait atleast half hour to an hour. 2. Dont underestimate the mind - it can cause the situations to become worse. 3. I discovered Biral and Rescue - natural remedies that really do work. 4. Support support support from either the internet or friends. Dont be shy to tell them - they might at first think you crazy but I guarantee you will then meet someone who has been holding back ashamed to talk - and you found a new friend. 5. Knowledge is power and knowing about your problems helps a lot. My question to all of you out there is? Why do some of us suffer with this and some dont? My husband drinks beear (a lot), he smokes, is over weight, has stress 100% more than me and he eats all the wrong foods? I on the other hand dont drink coffee, dont drink alcohol, dont drink sodas, I eat only fresh food and vegetables. I am a worrier, a big worrier?? Please can you help me understand this?????
 
  Chris  Posted: 13/08/2006 23:47
Kallie - do you still have heart palps? What was your story with the detox (impovement or none)? This weekend I went to the mtns for a quiet weekend retreat. The resort was at 7,000 ft, compared to where I live at 500'. It was very tranquil and quiet - no stress. But after 1 day, and now back home, I have chronic, quite bad palps, where I feel dizzy a lot. Has anyone else felt worse symptoms with change in altitude? Chris
 
  Kallie  Posted: 15/08/2006 19:30
Hi Chris - yes the detox really worked and for atleast a year i had no palps. But then they came back - why i dont know and i still have them - the worst is in the morning on awaking - dont know why and nobody seems to know the answer. But i can tell you one thing when the palps get worse than normal i know that i am coming down with something within the next 2 or 3 days. In answer to your question about the mtns - I know in my case as soon as i have to go somewhere away from my home (even holiday) i feel anxious and get palps and on returning to. This is not about the place where i am going it is about the place i am in my life maybe. Strange.
 
  Maggie B.  Posted: 16/08/2006 12:23
Kallie I feel that the worry may have a negative impact on your palps. Chris, thank you for the tip on running - that is excellent. Really dos the trick. Needless to add it can be cycling or cross trainign or any physical consistent activity a person enjoys.
 
  Angie  Posted: 16/08/2006 15:01
To Chris: You asked about any increase in palps with increase in altitude. I can definitely confirm that this occurs. My family loves to ski and on our last trip to Colorado I had incredibly bad palps, much worse than usual. They were compounded by also having a bad cold! I did manage to get in a couple of days of skiing but only after I had acclimatized for 3 days. By the way, I am still pretty confident that magnesium is reducing the severity of my palps. I sill get them, but so far no long lasting episodes, as I had previously. To Kalie: I too took diet pills fairly regularly. My first (and worst) episode of palps began after taking Xanax (anti-anxiety). Later, reading through the side effects, I noticed that palps are listed. I definitely believe that drugs can set this thing off. I'm not sure the medical profession is aware of all the possible side effects of the drugs they are so quick to prescribe. I am VERY careful about taking ANYTHING and think many people are ultra sensitive to the chemicals we put in our bodies, including caffeine, alcohol, and sugar.
 
  Marina  Posted: 16/08/2006 15:48
Just to confirm Angie. While caffiene and alcohol are chemicals (naturally occuring ones), sugar however is not.
 
  Chris  Posted: 16/08/2006 15:57
Thanks for the sharing. I just saw my doc yesterday and, of course, after listening to my heart he said it was normal, but gave me xanax for times I feel anxious (which he said makes he palps and feeling of dread worse) - this will be handy when I fly. Now the palps are gone and I am left with lingering after effects - sore, tired, and bracing for the next bout. I am off beer/wine now and eat salads every day, so I think things will improve. Also - must say, keeping my mind on 'fun things' and minimizing stress is key. It seems medical science thinks this is all in our head - or connected to it, if out EKG and echocardiograms are normal (mine are). In fact, my doc gave me a copy of my echo, which when reading it made me pretty anxious- as I was bracing for words like 'irregular'etc., but everything was described as normal - so...whew! Anyone try any Eastern remedies? Chris
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 16/08/2006 18:47
Hi All. First I want to say that sugar isnt a chemical but it does indeed contribute to palps. AND definately DO NOT use sugar subs like Splenda which is a chemical. It is advertized to be natural because its actually made from sugar but when you take a natural substance and change its molecular structure, it is no longer natural it is a man made chemical. Dont be fooled. Also I have taken Xanax for quite some time. I am super sensitive to everything but Xanax has been wonderful. If you had a problem with it consider that it will take some time for you to feel the benefits of reducing your stress levels and try reducing the dosage. I started with a .25 mg 3 times a day and .50 mg at bedtime. If that seems too much for you then cut those amounts in half. I was afraid of the xanax when I first started taking it and if we are all honest with ourselves, we are afraid of most meds because we are afraid something will bring on the palps. At low dosages of xanax, you dont have much of the other side effects such as the tiredness. Anybody still on ANY amount of caffiene.... Get off it. Alcohol effects people differently so use your own judgement and sugar IS NOT good. Use only sugars in your fruits, stay off candies, sodas and baked goods. I also believe that aromatherapy and meditation are two of the best things you can do for yourself. If you have any questions, please email me at sweazys2002@yahoo.com
 
  kallie  Posted: 18/08/2006 12:02
I agree that although sugar may not be a chemical it definately affects palps - but i heard of a natural sugar on the market called ""stevia"" - it is very very sweet. Non nutritive sweeteners are even worse then sugar - check the internet for testimonials on aspartame and you will think again about your diet sodas. They may give you zero calaries but they give you neurological problems in the future.
 
  drinkersdaughter  Posted: 18/08/2006 12:56
Hi I just wanted to share my experiance of heart palpitations, they started for me around puberty and I would have episodes of them from about one week to the day I got my period. I did go to the doctor who said to me that it was my age (about 16 at the time) and that I would grow out of it when I had a baby ( I swear they said that) anywat this continued for the next three years the episodes were extreemely long lasting from about 1 hour to 3 hours. I eventually got to the blackrock clinic and was fitted with a halter monitor. I had an episode of palpitations while wearing this monitor. the next day I handed it back thinking that it would be looked at immediately not the case I rang about three days later as I was still having the palpitations and I said to the nurse / secetary that to read my tape as I had something on it generally there is nothing on tapes .. anyway about an hour later I got a call to come into the clinic. they got the reading and it told them that my heart beat was increasing to 279 beats per minute.. about tow humdred more per minute than average!!! I had a procedure done for node modification basicall they went in through my groin and in just above my breast and it took four hours and it was really nothing to be scared of I recovered really well and I have never had an attact of palpitations since.. I realy got a new lease of life I had been in emergency so many times before and I can go anywher and do anything and I dont have to worry anymore.
 
  Shinny  Posted: 23/08/2006 18:06
How many people have you heard of that have died from a Palpitation attack? I didn't think so !! LOL. A friend told me that & it made me wake up a little. I too have suffered from Palpitations (the skipped heart beat variety, with the extra strong catch up heart beat thrown in for good measure) Seriously though, this time last year I wouldn't have been able to laugh at it as much as I can now. I've suffered with Palpitations (along with chest pain, shortness of breath/not able to get enough air, aches in my arm, leg etc) for nearly 4 years now (I'm a 31 Female) Ended up in A&E that often I began to know the Dr's by first name :) "What's your pleasure Shinny, an oxygen mask?" "Yes please & a packet of peanuts, thanks" I was going to my GP nearly every other week & paying him €45 a pop to be told, stop worrying, go for a walk, there's nothing wrong with you. So I changed Dr's & I was blessed with a very sympathetic one (sometimes, that's all you need!) he sent me for all of the tests & like everyone else, they came back normal. Oh, but that wasn't going to deter me from finding something wrong with me :) So I started doing Internet searches & I was convinced they missed something, from reading "stories" from other people. Mine get worse after Alcohol, along with some foods etc. I also get skin rashes when I drink alcohol or eat chocolate, so a clear sign that I have intolerance. I've also just found out that I have Acid Reflux & my stomach is currently inflamed (I had the scope down) & am on Nexium for that, which to be honest doesn't really seem to be helping. I was convinced I had an underlying heart problem that they just hadn't detected, but I began to realise I wasn't going to die (not immediately anyway :O) so it seemed to relax me & relax the attacks of palps & chest pain. I still get them, but I'm not as worried about them now. All I can say to you is that clearly you are not alone. The chances of it being something serious, is negligible, but you need to make sure that is the case. What causes Palpitations? A variety of different things based on what people have said above. Just take comfort in knowing that you are not the only one.
 
  Sara  Posted: 23/08/2006 22:06
This had been so consoling to read all the postings and see that everyone is alive and kicking!! It helps so much to know that we are not alone. Several weeks ago I did a posting, stating that perhaps Aloe Vera might be helping my palpatations. Unfortunatly, after taking the supplement for several weeks, the palpations returned. I would like to thank everyone for letting us know what has helped them. I am now drinking a lot more water and trying to exercise more. This does seem to help. I do know for a fact that stress is one of the main contributers to the palpations. Has anyone noticed a change through the years in the type of arrythmias they have? Mine started out 20 years ago as tachacardia, that subsided and several years ago I started having the ectoptic heartbeats. Now I seem to have a completly skipped beat and about six very fast beats in a row. As I mentioned in an earlier posting, I have had every test under the sun and have seen numerous doctors. I have about decided that I need to see an electrician since this is an electrical problem in the heart!!!HA!!! Keep the great postings coming and talk to all of you soon. P.S. Have been told that heart arrythmias can be genetic. Both of my children have this problem also.
 
  Kirsty  Posted: 28/08/2006 16:01
Hi, I am so glad I am not the only one who feels this way! My palpitations started only a couple of days ago when I was lying in bed and I noticed that my heart was beating rather fast. I also started to feel a bit sick. about 20 minutes after my heart started racing, my whole body started to shake and tremble. The shaking lasted upto 2 hours and then I finally managed to fall asleep. The next day though I was awful, my heart was still racing and I was so dizzy and tired I also have shortness of breath. My Dr. Checked me over and said that I was ok and gave me some tablets to take for 5 days to slow my heart rate. It comes in waves, I think about it, I panic, my heart goes faster, I start to feel sick and dizzy, i try and calm myself down then it goes away. I am not sure what it is, i did think that maybe it could have been a panic attack as I was pretty scared - i thought my time was up, and maybe because my grandad has just died and I was very close to him. Dont really know. Has anybody else had this?
 
  Kallie  Posted: 28/08/2006 20:36
I wonder if someone can answer my problem. 99% of my palpitations occur on waking - or the palps wake me - not sure which comes first. I dont have night mares - i dont drink caffiene at night or at all - and have not for 4 years. Why only this time? Is there something i can do to prevent it?
 
  l.c.  Posted: 31/08/2006 06:13
i have had an arithmic heartbeat since i was born and sometimes i have severely painful sensations in my chest. they get so bad i dont even dare move or breathe because it intensifies the pain. i have visited my doctor but whenever i take the tests there, nothing is as off as the attacks are suggesting. my chest feels sore afterwards for a couple of hours. panic attacks have already been ruled out. does anyone know anything that could help. (i don't drink any caffeine or pop or any such drink, i live a very active lifestyle and eat well too)
 
  Larue  Posted: 31/08/2006 17:40
My 5 yr old was diagnosed w/ svt and had ablation but his palpitations have returned. Now my 3yold has palpitations. They can't determine why after many tests, 24 holter and 30 day moniter. They also say 5 yr olds palpitations are not the svt he had before and they don't know why he has them. They both have palpitations almost daily. We went to Pheonix for a week. (It is a desert area.) They did not have any palpitations the whole time. 2 days after we returnded they both have palpitations againg. The dr.s never mentioned allergy but this seems to be a culprit.THey are not currently on any medication so meds are not a cause. I also asked them about trying the magnesium but they steered me away from it. I am wondering if anyone know what amount of magnesium would be okay for a child to use.
 
  Sara  Posted: 01/09/2006 23:36
To Larue, Your posting was very interesting and made me start to think that maybe irregular heartbeats can be caused by allergies. When you mentioned that your children were free of the irregular beats while visiting Phoenix, I began to think that there is definitly something to this. I live in Phonix, Arizona and Austin, Texas. Now that I think of it, my irregualr hearbeats are very frequent while in Texas and almost non-existant in Arizona. Austin is very humid with lots of vegetation. I am defintly going to do more research about this. I am so glad that I saw your posting, as I think we are definitly onto something!!! I have tried numerous supplements and nothing has worked. My cardiolist highly recommended magnesium but it did not work for me. I don't know what the dosage should be for your children but I do know that "Slow Magnesium" is suppose to work better. I will be returning to Arizona in several weeks so I am really anxious to see if the irregular heartbeats immediatly go away. Where do you live and is your climate humid with lots of vegetation? This is very interesting!!!! Thanks so much for mentioning your trip to Phoenix. Keep me posted and I will do the same!!! I have 2 children that have inherited my arrythmia but fortunatly their episodes are very infreguent.
 
  Larue  Posted: 04/09/2006 17:22
Sara, We live in Pasadena,California. So we are only humid occasionally but we have lots of greenery.
 
  I  Posted: 05/09/2006 21:54
Hi everyone, I know a lot of people have said this but I just want to let everyone know how much of a relief this page is. I first experienced heart palpitations about 5 years ago. It scared the hell out of me. Never went to the docs as my mum got them and said she'd been told it was down to too much caffine. They were very occasional then but recently they got more frequent and last summer I had a ECG done. The doc told me my there was nothing serious wrong but that my worrying about them made them worse, it's a vicious circle. Heart palpitations can be caused by adreniline which in turn makes you freak, produce more adreniline and more palpitations. I took the beta-blockers for a month to stop me worrying but you stop taking the drugs and they slowly creep back. Then the panic attacks kicked in and they make everything 10 times worse! I very nearly passed out at work today because of one but I am starting to realise that it's the panic causing most of the probs. Trying to overcome it with self help books so we'll see how it goes! Anyway, this page just gave me that extra bit of help to remember that they are perfectly normal and I'm not about to have a heart attack or something! Hope everyone manages to live with the little anomilies somehow.
 
  Brandon(ANG51685)  Posted: 10/09/2006 06:05
I am 20 years old and have experienced palpiations realtively infrequently for the past year or so. Over the last month they have started to become more frequent as well as more frightening. Today I was in a rather excitable situation and felt my heart pounding in my throat. Then I felt what seemed to be my heart skipping atleast three beats consecutively. I then felt very uncomfortable, dizzy, thirsty, and most importantly pins and needles in my hands. I got up and walked around and it seemed to help, however it came back in full force about five minutes later. I was driving home and the pins and needle sensation became very severe followed by spasm or "clenching" of the hands. I immediately pulled over (i thought i was dying) and was very frightened. I started walking around slowly, fighting to remain concious and debating whether or not to call 911. I eventually felt good enough to continue the ride home and when I got there, the feeling started getting intense again and I called the ambulance. I wasn't taken to the hospictal, and was told everything seemed to look ok. The rest of that night I felt extremely anxious about what had happened as well as continued palpitations. (atleast ten more). I'm about to go to sleep now and hope everything will be ok in the morning. I just can not write this off as anythign normal, and am convinced that I have a severe problem. I hope to see my GP asap. Anyways it is all extremely frustrating but I have found much serenity and reassurance by all who share their experiences on this page and the articles above. GL to all.
 
  David(AEO51874)  Posted: 13/09/2006 09:30
This site is a great relief. In the last 3 weeks I've had 3 Palps. I train roughly 3-5 days a week for 3 hours a day. I'm in some of the best shape of my life, but obviously that doesn't seem to matter. Everytime it's happenend I've been at complete rest. I now know what the back of the throat feeling is too. I didn't have that at first though, and I've been kind of light headed for a few days. I have been drinking a lot of cokes too, so I will cut out all caffeine and alcohol and repost with any changes. All happened within 15 minutes of eating a big meal, and 2 after a big night of drinking. 7 drinks on one night, and more than 15 on another. The more than 15 night was when I started having them. I have been drinking coffee almost daily, and usually have tea with lunch. All three occasions I thought I was going to pass out, and on one I as very dizzy. 2 times I HAD to ge up and walk around or I don't know what was going to happen. It seemed to help as soon as I got up. I've been to the doctor for CG and blood work and all is well or so I'm told. thanks for the stories, I feel less worried knowing that others have the same symtoms for a longer period. Dave in Cali
 
  Eva  Posted: 14/09/2006 21:07
Hi everyone, My doctor told me, only intelligent people get palpitations, so we are in good company. My pulps get worse with weather changes.I also have a low blood pressure. Does anyone experience the same problem
 
  Ravadelia  Posted: 15/09/2006 00:02
I recently posted in another forum re: palpitations occuring 15 minutes to half hour after eating. I was diagnosed with iritable bowel syndrome & apparently it was gas that produced the attacks. Have been on meds for a week & have had only one small incident,that I know was triggered by the food I had eaten. I eat 5-6 small meals instead of three big ones also. That helps.
 
  marnia  Posted: 15/09/2006 12:29
Hi All..Just a little update on progress..I was with my GP yesterday as I'm off to Tunisia for a couple of weeks and needed to check up on vaccinations, etc., and he again said not to pay too much attention to the A.Fib. Important to keep an eye on things, but because they are more of a nuisance than life threatening to try to just ignore them and get on with things. Because I'm travelling alone ('cos my friend can't come due to family commitments) and because of world affairs being the way they are, air travel is a bit scary right now, so I have to try to keep stress under control ...but at least I won't be as frightened if I DO have an A.Fib. I haven't had an episode since March,(no coffee, no tea, no fizzy drinks or a least caffeine-free ones) just the usual daily skipped beats, but it doesn't scare me half as much as it used to. Finding out exactly what the heart does and understanding it has made a difference. It doesn't work perfectly all the time, no more than any organ in our bodies, we are just more aware of our hearts because we can feel the beast. (That spelling was a Freudian typo so I will leave it...LOL!) Again I will stress to the younger people on this forum who think they will die young that I am 65 and half, and have had this to one degree or another for 50 YEARS !! Half a century !! Good luck and good health to all ! Marnia in Ireland.
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 15/09/2006 21:02
EVA, I think you need a new doctor dear. That comment by your doctor about "only intelligent people getting palps" is the most obsurd thing I have ever heard. After that comment we can all feel assured that your doctor doesnt get them..... if ya get what im saying. Please get a new doctor.
 
  marnia  Posted: 18/09/2006 10:12
EVA..Carol's right....I'm glad my Doc gets them..at least we're in the same boat, if ya get my drift !!!
 
  Sara  Posted: 18/09/2006 22:02
Has anyone ever had the heart irregularities constantly, like all day long? For the past month, I have had numerous thumps and ecoptic beats about every minute. This is very disturbing!!!! They seem to be much worse at night. Trying to decide if I should see my cardiologist again, since they have become more frequent.
 
  christine  Posted: 24/09/2006 21:41
Sara, I have had PVC's that lasted on the minute in runs of three for two solid weeks. I have been tested and tested and there is nothing wrong with me. My doctor says this is a common occurance with a lot of people and just try to accept it and not be afraid of it. I had some on Friday night and been good ever since again.
 
  Julie  Posted: 01/10/2006 14:02
Hi Sara you sound just like me when I first started havind missed beats. They started suddenly about last march. They were waking me in the night and went on costantly 3/4 missed beats every minute continuing for 2/3 hours at a time with breaks of 2/3 hours between. I went to the doctors after 3/4 days of this as I was due to go to florida on the next day. He gave me an ecg and said everything was fine {the missed beats were not happening during the ecg] The next day I flew to Florida still having them. I felt very unwell for the first couple of days there but then they stopped as quick as they started and I then enjoyed my holiday I even went on the biggest roller coaster there and lived to tell the tale. I hadnt been home for long when the missed beats started up again just like before. After 2/3 more visits to the doctors seeing only locums who all told me I was fine I eventually saw my own doctor whoi was very understanding and not dismissive. He put me on a low dose of atenolol{beta blockers]. Thes seem to be doing something as I have been on then now for5 months and from when I started taking them I have hardly had a missed beat I still get some occaisionally And I can sometimes feel that my heart wants to miss a beat but it doesnt. Also after reading these posts I also started taking magnesium tablets this combination seems to work for me and I do not constantly worry about it all the time. There is only one thing that I can think coincided with the missed heart beats and that is 2 weeks after having the first episode I had a period and this turned out to be the last one I have had up to now so im clearly in the menopause {Im 53] and Ive read that irregular heartbeats can be a symptom .So Im hoping thats all it is. I go back to the doctors evert now and then and he says if Im happy staying on the beta blockers to continue them . Well im still here when in March I thought my end had come so try to think positive and go to the doctors just so they can put your mind at rest good kluck Julie
 
  TITO  Posted: 02/10/2006 11:30
Christine, Please include some magnesuim supplement in your diet, i think it will help in your case after 4 days to one week, keep taking it for one month. You may also add some Vitamin B Complex for one week -10 days, it showed some help in many cases . regards, TITO
 
  Chris  Posted: 02/10/2006 16:26
Does anyone have the following experience as I typically do? When my palps have been bad and prolonged and I visit my doctor, they go away during the physical exam. Magnesium does work though I have noticed. Also - how & when did your palps start? Mine started when I was going through a very stressful period in my mid 30's. I bet if you go in front of a crowd of people at the airport or wherever and ask those who have occassional palps to raise their hands you would be surprised by how many people live with them. 2 cents there. Best to all - chris
 
  marnia  Posted: 03/10/2006 12:17
For those who want to take magnesium, but either get cramped or diarrhoea, a nurse friend said try breaking the tablets up and dividing the dose through the day..worked for me..good health to all !!!
 
  Sara  Posted: 04/10/2006 01:25
Thanks to all of you for sharing your heart experiences. It certainly helps to know that you are not alone. I would like to ask if anyone has connected their irregualr hearbeats with possible allergies? I live in Texas and in Arizona. I have almost constant irregular hearatbeats while in Texas, where it is very humid with much vegetation. While in Arizona, which is very dry and not much vegetation, I very seldom have them. I saw another posting that had this same experience. This is interesting, as my cardiologist never metioned this possible connection to me. I have been in Texas for 6 months now and almost having them continuosly. Will be heading back to Arizona next week so will be anxious to see if I stop having them. Will let everyone know. I started having them when I was 30 which lasted for several years. I didn't have any at all for almost 15 years, now they have started up again for the past years with an entirely different rhythm. It is so frightening!!! Have started taking magnesium a week ago which hasn't helped yet. Plan to start exercising more when I return to Arizona. Godd luck to all of you and thanks again for all the great information!!! I still think we all need a good electrician!!!HA!
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 08/10/2006 17:42
Hi everyone, I haven't been in for a while I hope you're all doing well!!Well after the birth of my son 15 months ago my palps worsened.I had terrible anxiety and panic attacks and my doctor put me on Fluoxetine.I have to be honest---they really did ease up.I'd still have them but seldom. A few weeks after taking them I found out I'm pregnant again with my third ( and last! )child....so I stopped them immediately. Now I get them regularly and daily and they're terrifying me yet again.I've gone and bought one of those BP monitors that also measures your pulse---my pulse was 129bpm today and I thought this is it--I'm going to die.I'm only 31 and I'm lucky enough to have the most beautiful husband and children,but my husband isn't in good health after a serious road traffic accident 2 years ago--he has developed a rare hypoglycemia as a result of the crash and he has to have regular tests/examinations etc....what I'm trying to say is I've had every test under the sun and apart from being diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat they've all come back normal.I want to be in great health to take care of my family but these palps are just bringing me down again and I don't want to be how I was before.Sorry for rambling!!xx
 
  Ryan(CWX51922)  Posted: 10/10/2006 21:13
Hi everyone, It makes me feel a lot better after reading all these posts! I'm 26 years old and i've had the palps for two years and as of lately been dizzy as well! I've had several tests done and everything seem to be fine. The flutters range from 1 per week to daily. I get them when I do heavy exercise as well as just sitting at my desk. I started taking magnesium this week to see if this will ease them. Is 250mg/day enough?
 
  nick(LUH53517)  Posted: 15/10/2006 14:21
i would just like to say that alot of the symptoms that people have been describing seem to be related to stress and anxiety. sure your stress and anxiety may not be causing the palpitations or the dropped beats, but it generally seems that the panic and anxiety is caused by the dropped beats and palps. alot of people experience the same symptoms as you but they are un-worried by them. the fact that you are all on this forum suggests a mild obession with symptoms and an un-willingness to accept the diagnosis of your doctor, which are all hallmark signs of anxiety. i have dropped beats. some times they worry me and other times they do not. when i am worried by them i can then have panic attacks about them. so i would say i have an underlying condition that causes the dropped beats but i also have a panic disorder. as a lot of you on this forum seem to as well. someone suggested breathing and anxiety management techniques, which i would have to say work very well. shawswelshgirl you sound very anxious and this is probably your main problem. if doctors say you are okay and your heart is fine accept the diagnosis and then deal with your anxiety. having a heart rate monitor is a really bad idea. imagine you have palps, you start monitoring you heart you heart rate is elevated and then you start to panic, by panicking you stop breathing properly and you stop flushing the carbon monoxide out of you and your heart rate goes up further, you tingle, and you feel like you are going to die. try meditation, yoga, mindfulness, cognitive behavioural therapy and exercise... and throw the heart rate monitor away
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 17/10/2006 12:47
Hi Nick, Thanks for your response.I actually bought the BP monitor for my husband as he suffers from hypertension--also caused by his accident.So I kind of 'had a go' one day.I've got brilliant blood pressure--'like a teenager's' as my GP described it,that doesn't worry me.I think I'm just feeling like I'm going back to square one with regards to feeling afraid all the time.Before the palpitations started I was the most confident,outgoing person you could ever meet--but I've had an awful couple of years which kicked off the anxious feelings,palps,panic attacks etc..It's almost as though I've become a different person and I hate it.I agree with what you've said and I know it's up to me to sort it which I've no doubt I will--eventually.I used to be exercise-mad--now I'm afraid of walking too fast as I can feel my heart thumping.I know I'm sounding sorry for myself but I'm not--I'm genuinely afraid.I'm going to look into yoga or relaxation therapies and see how they may work.I'll keep you posted!!Thanks again.
 
  Susanna(PZQ53926)  Posted: 21/10/2006 00:48
I am 27 weeks pregnant and I have been experiencing heart palpitations and a rapid pulse since my 14th week of pregnancy. They became particularly agravated last week when I got news from my son's pediatrician telling me that he had an abnormal blood test. When I saw my OBGYN a few days ago, she noticed my elevated pulse and referred me to my internal medicine doctor. I saw him and everything seemed fine, he was not concerned he said. Yesterday, he called me and said he had second thoughts and wants me to have an echocardogram (ulstrasound of my heart). I am very nervous about this and I am scheduled for the procedure next week. I hope it turns out okay.
 
  Larue  Posted: 22/10/2006 03:12
Sara, My son's cardiologist said it is possible that seasonal allergies are causing his palpitations. My 3 year old and 6 year old have palpitiations. and since the change of season my older son has had only 1 episode and my 3 year old hasn't had any episodes. During the summer they both had palpitations almost daily. Like I wrote before the week we were in Pheonix in the summer they didn't have any problems. They did the 30 day holter on the 3 year old in the summer and said he is fine.They could see the fast heartbeats but said they were not fast enough to be a problem. THe older one has already had an ablation for his tachycardia and they've said he will have to learn to deal with any palpitations he feels now if I don't want him on medication for the rest of his life. So I'm trying to teach him relaxation exercises and methods to slow down his heart rate when it gets too fast. Before the ablation it was up to 280 beats per min. the procedure made things better but not normal. Hopefully they will be used to this when they are adults and not have panick attacks. Best of luck to everyone.
 
  rosebud  Posted: 23/10/2006 20:57
Hi, i'm a 40 year old female who found out i had heart palpatations about 8 mouths ago I was sent to a cardiologist for a strong heart rate he performed a cardiogram (ultra sound of the heart) and than made me wear a holter monitor which showed that my heart palpitated 4500 times in a 24 hour period. My ekg came back fine. I was told this was normal and that he did not need to see me in his office anymore. Just recently though my doctor performed a EKG and the palipatations were all over the place on it. He seemed to be all non caring about it and said that my heart was being irritated by something and that I should not worry about it. AT the time I was on blood pressure medicine call lotrel and was taken off of it. My problem is this did the lotrel cause the heart palps, or is there something else wrong it seems to be getting worse first it dos'nt show up on an EKG and than it does???? can I have a blockage somewhere and they just refuse to find it. I am so frustrated with the whole thing and worry about it all the time. I'm a smoker yes...... but there are alot of smokers out there that this is not happening to. I do not dring coffee or any caffinated drinks. can someone please shed some light on this subject and give my mind a rest and my soul some peace. thanks
 
  Bren  Posted: 24/10/2006 14:13
I\'ve recently discovered the delights of irishhealth.com and especially the discussion area. I am a health care professional (not an MD) and work in the cardiology area. My impression; Some posts seem genuine the but the this discussion area is definatly a haven for the hypochondriacs. I wouldn\'t like to read their posts if they had genuine cardiac problems. It is my experience that most palps exist \"up stairs\". In my experience, the palpitations route is also frequently abused by people to gain access to scarce and already overstreached cardiac diagnostic services. If you want peace of mind go and buy it at a private clinic.
 
  Chana  Posted: 24/10/2006 15:49
Bren, I find myself being very glad you'e not an MD. Your remarks about palps being 'up-stairs' are unhelpful at best. Why should anyone who pays their taxes be forced to pay again from any medical servie including precious peace of mind.
 
  rosebud  Posted: 24/10/2006 19:05
Bren, I hope and pray to God that you never have to experience your heart stopping and than starting it is one of the most frighting things that can happen to you. It is not in our minds, if it were than it would not show up on all those expensive medical devices that we pay high dollar for. I personally am glad that you are not MY doctor because you would be replaced as quickly as my heart palpatates........
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 24/10/2006 19:30
Susanna, All the best with the scan--I'm sure you'll be fine,the same happened to me when I was carrying my son and it all turned out fine--I was told back then that pregnancy and palpitations go hand in hand.The joys of eh?!! With regards to the post from Bren--I agree with Chana.When I was diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat back in April I actually apologised to the wonderful staff who took care of me while I was there as I was worried they'd see me as some kind of 'hypochondriac'.The cardiologist's words were--"When you know and feel something is different,don't ever just sit there and put up with it,that is why we are here".I never asked for an ecg,I never asked for any of the tests--I just wanted to know why my heart felt like it was stopping at every other beat for days on end.I have two kids with one on the way--I'm damned sure I wasn't just going to sit there and ignore it.I've had anxiety for a while--I KNOW that can bring on palpitations--but it won't cause an irregular heartbeat so who knows what causes them?I live with them day in day out and they can even keep me awake.Yes they worry me,yes they frighten me and yes I shouldn't use my husbands bloody BP monitor-- but that's MY choice and I bother NO-ONE with how I feel now (apart from come here from time to time).If the palpitations I have are 'upstairs' it would be a psychiatrist I would be going to--not a hospital.
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 24/10/2006 19:32
Bren, I thought this was supposed to be a supportive forum????
 
  marnia  Posted: 25/10/2006 09:30
Bren How on earth did you become a medical professional ?..you are the most unsympathic person I have ever come across in the medical scene..why on earth would people use their heart trouble to get attention..believe me none of us want to have this thing in our lives..we all have other things to do than be scared almost to death by this condition...I am particularly angry as I was doing really well and after returning from holiday had a set-back and believe me..going straight from my holiday to A+E was not where I wanted to be..I wanted to be HOME in my own house and not 72 hrs in a hospital ward..I hope you are a million miles away from me if I ever fall ill....Anyway to those of you who do know whats its like..all's well again...potassium levels had dropped and a 6hr. potassium drip sorted the problem...(See Bren, this was not 'all in my mind'...) I really think you should think about going into some other type of work..'cos this definitely isn't where you should be !!! Those of us who are haunted by this or any other condition need TLC and reassurance..and not your 'heartless' reaction..whart worries me is the person who comes across you, gets that reaction, is genuinely ill, but goes away having come across you and falls seriously ill because you scared them away..Even if a condition is phychosomatic('scuse spelling) the reason the patient thinks they have a condition needs to be dealt with as it is still a cry for some kind of attention. Bren, I wish you good health and hope you never have a health problem.
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 26/10/2006 05:04
TO BREN.... OMG!!!!!!! You should not be in the health care profession. You should be ashamed of yourself for coming into a forum of people who are here to help and support each other with your negative comments. BAD BAD KARMA! If you dont have anything supportive or reassuring to say...... Please dont come back here!!!!!!!! We definately dont need your unkind words or thoughts!
 
  Mazie  Posted: 27/10/2006 16:26
Hiya all. I know it's been said a hundred times over, but what a site. I feel very alone with my condition, my partner is simply not interested. I have had arrhythmias for many years off and on, but over the last few weeks, when I have been lying in bed they have been horrendous. Every minute my hearts flip flops or whatever you want to call it approx 3 times. This lasts for approx 2 or 3 hours. The first time this happened was 2 weeks ago so I went my local a&e where by the time I got there they had stopped. They restarted when I got back home and lay down I put up with them for 3 hours then went back to a&e (funnilly enough they nearly always stop when I am standing). My partner was really angry with me. They ran all the tests, hormone, magnesium, ekg, echo and then the 24 which of course ALL came back as normal. The cardiologist said that because the extra beats/ectopic/arrhymias whatever they are came when I was lying down was a sign that they were benign because they could find nothing wrong with my heart. I really pushed the issue and she relented and said that if I really wanted I could have an abalation, but she really didn't think it necessary. I know that it is a VERY invasive proceedure so I am not sure what to do really, my appoint is next week. But honestly does ANYONE know WHY they come when your just about to fall asleep or you are woken up with them?? Please someone help me, no-one I know wants to talk to me about it I am really isolated on this and with my partner being this way it is really really hard for me to cope on my own. I wasn't under stress before this, when I had an ectopic beat I would feel a bit out of sorts for a while and then it would pass I have got used to them over the years, but this is scaring the hell out of me and now I am REALLY REALLY stressed out, especially since it happened again this afternoon when I had a lie down. I dare not tell my partner - please help me.
 
  marnia  Posted: 28/10/2006 13:48
Hi Maizie...Don't know the answers BUT mine usually start after I've been busy and am resting..about to doze off..and bang..off they go..I thought maybe I just didn't notice them when I'm busy...but that's not the case. These arrythmias are so strong that you can't ignore them. But I don't know why they happen..I wish I did..and I had this 'silly' theory that it was maybe 'left-over' adrenaline from my busy times and my heart was saying keep moving..I just don't know. When I came back from holidays and had to go to A+E, the beats were varying from 128 to alarm-ringing 187..then after three hours settled spontaneously. They can find no reason, and after another echo-scan which showed a perfectly normal heart with no damage or blocked arteries ir anything else ominous..in fact one Dr. said he wished he had my heart. They just can't find a reason yet the symtoms are still there.. As I said before to all of you younger ones..I'm 65 and a half so it doesn't kill off earlier but the worry will do damage if we let it stress us out. Again Maizie I don't know the answers, but it does happen to other people, and we are still here to tell the tales..I absolutely do sympathise with you and understand your being so scared but if mine and all the other stories are anything to go by WE DO SURVIVE THESE HORRIBLE EPISODES. Take care !
 
  mazie  Posted: 28/10/2006 18:25
Hi, me again. I forgot to add that I don't smoke, drink and take magnesium supplements too. I have to sleep sitting up which is proving so tiring everytime I fall off the pillows I wake up with the thump thump three or four times every minute. I should add that I do have Mulitple Sclerosis - but that I am fully mobile and the MS is under control - this was diagnosed approx 6 years ago now so I am not stressed out about this at all. I am just panicked to know why this has just suddenly started for no reason that I can think of. Today it happened again - and with my MS I really do need my sleep. When I first had problems 6 years ago with the MS (not diagnosed then) the first doctor told me that my double vision was a migraine and to go home lie down and take 2 paracetamols, I went and found another neuro who gave me the full works and gave me the correct results. So with the cardio that I have now I am giving up with her and finding another who can really help me properly, these things do not "just happen". Please help - anyone I would so very much appreciate it - at least I could have the comfort of maybe getting to sleep. Thanking you all in advance. Mazie
 
  shawswelshgirl  Posted: 28/10/2006 19:54
Hi Mazie, Your post really moved me.I have to say I'm shocked at your partner's attitude towards your palpitations--I can only think that maybe he feels helpless when you have these attacks and being angry is his way of dealing with them?Either way,it's no wonder you're having them if his response is as you've posted.You should be able to go to him about ANYTHING--that's what caring about someone is all about. You are NOT alone I promise---just read all the posts in here ( apart from Bren's...).I get palpitations every day of my life.I get them when I'm awake,asleep,standing up,lying down,cooking dinner,reading,washing the dishes..I swear to you I have them constantly and when I'm relaxed.Just a few nights ago they kept me awake til the early hours.I've had them for a couple of years and as I'm in my fourth month of pregnancy they are getting steadily worse.They terrify me just as they do you but like you I have had every test under the sun and they have all come back as normal.Severe stress and trauma kick-started mine and I think stress plays a gigantic part in yours.As an outsider it's easy for me to see that if you have one palpitation it'll take you aback and you start to get a bit scared--that makes them worse and if there is also the fear and apprehension of telling your partner it's a wonder you're not having them twenty-four hours a day.I was asked if I wanted to undergo more intensive tests a while ago as I was having them so bad.......and I turned it down.I really think that if you go ahead and have the ablation you will still feel like there is something terribly wrong and where do you go from there?As Nick has said in a previous post to myself--alot of palpitations can be down to anxiety and stress and you sound extremely anxious and understandably so with you feeling so isolated.When I saw a cardiologist back in April I asked him the very question you have " WHY??" and he told me that those who seem to have them seemingly become prone to having more but there was nothing to worry about unless I started to pass out or have chest pain ( which I've had neither of thank God ). I'm not saying not to have any more tests,I have no right or qualification but think about the tests you've already had---they can't ALL be wrong.Maybe there are aspects to your life that are causing you to feel stressed and maybe dealing with them will have a knock-on effect with the palpitations.Even if it doesn't and they persist----there are millions of us who suffer with them and we're living,breathing and supporting you!Please let us know how you get on x
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 01/11/2006 18:56
Hi all~ I'm still experiencing the palpitations amost daily and the PSVT like every 2 weeks. However, I feel that I'm improving. Many doctors will tell you that the palps will only get worse as you age, but I believe that they can go away, and sometimes we don't need to do things like ablation unless life becomes unbearable. I recently found out that studies were done showing that in some cases Acupuncture helped arrythmias...I also have been taking vitamin E and just began taking Hawthorne berry. I'm hoping these help, as studies have shown they help eliminate heart problems...I'm not saying that this is an absolute gurantee but it is worth a shot. I believe much can be found in the natural world that can cure us...prescribed medicine does not always do the trick. I have been on various calcium channel blockers and beta blockers and NONE of them helped...I finally stopped taking them and decided to put my life in God's hands. I'm only 26 and I don't want to live my life dependant on prescribed medication. Anyway, I wish all of you the best of luck and suggest that you look into alternative means of healing instead of just doing what the doctor suggests. I'm not saying doctors are full of crap, there are many wonderful practicioners, but doctors don't always know everything. I am planning on going for acupunture sometime in the next month so I will let you know if it helps at all. ~Peace
 
  TerryMac  Posted: 10/11/2006 00:46
I have had palpitations for years but recently I went almost 4 weeks without any.... I took a vacation! As soon as the car pulled out of our laneway, they were done. Now I am back at work and every so often, there they are. So I am sure that for some it is triggered by food or lack of sleep but in my case , it is stress. I give everyone permisssion to take a month off.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/11/2006 12:21
Im 20 and have been experiencing heart palpatations and chest pain, all my tests came back clear the docs think im deficient in Magnesium which has caused the palpatations they have no answer as to why im getting chest pain.Anyone else had this experience?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/11/2006 22:02
Hi, I have recently started getting palpitations i am in my mid 60's i am really worried about this. my doctor has refered me to cornary specialist. i am expercing slight flutters in my chest mainly when i go to relax or late at night. is this normal?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 18/11/2006 07:46
I was having heart palipitations daily. I was diagnosed with anemia and was prescribed iron pills. That made the palipations go away. I have heard that it is dangerous to take iron if you do not know for sure that you are iron deficient.
 
  Zee  Posted: 20/11/2006 12:17
Hi everyone: ITS 5:00 AM AND I CAN'T SLEEP FROM HEART PALPITATIONS. I'VE HAD THEM MOST OF MY LIFE BUT FOR THE PAST YEAR THEY HAVE BECOME AND PART OF MY LIFE, LIKE BREATHING! I AM A 42 YEAR OLD FEMALE, I HAVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE WHICH IS UNDER CONTROL WITH MEDS AND I HAVE DIABETES AND THATS UNDER CONTROL WITH MEDS BUT I CAN'T GET THESE PALPITATIONS UNDER CONTROL. THEY HAVE DISRUPTED MY LIFE, I DON'T SLEEP AT NITE AND I AM ALWAYS RUNNING TO THE ER AND THEY SEEM LIKE THEY ARE SICK OF ME. I HAVE HAD ALL THE TESTS EVEN TWICE, ECHO, STRESS, HOLTER AND 30 DAY EVENT MONITOR. DR SAYS BENIGN. KNOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I WAS RECENTLY PUT ON LANOXIN(ANTI ARRY MED) I HAVE BENN TAKING IT FOR 1 MONTH DIDN'T WORK SO DR HIGHER THE DOSAGE NOW ANOTHER MONTH AND JUST YESTERDAY I WENT TO ER WITH 135 BEAT PER MINUTE FOR 1 HOUR. TONITE MY HEART HAS BEEN FLUTTERING UP TO 8 EXTRA BEATS ON AND OFF ALL NITE. I AM FREAKING OUT AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I WAS TOLD BY THE ER DOCTOR THAT THE BIGGEST FEAR WITH PALPITATION DEPENDING ON THE TYPE YOU HAVE IS BLOOD CLOTTING, I WAS TOLD THE ATRIAL FIB CAUSES BLOOD CLOTTING AND HE BELIEVES THATS WHAT I HAVE. I REALLY FEEL ALONE AND NEED A FRIEND THAT HONESTLY NOW WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH FROM EXPERIENCE, I COULD REALLY USE A CHAT PARTNER SINCE THE ONE AT HOME IS NO HELP OR SIMPATY WHATS SO EVER. MOST OF MY NITE I SPEND CRYING AND UPSET AND HE SLEEPS RIGHT THREW IT. HELP PLEASE!
 
  TITO  Posted: 21/11/2006 10:30
Zee, We all were at the same place you are in today, do not worry , you will get over it. You are not alone. I will be happy if you would like to chat with me, My email is T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com, you can find me on Yahoo messenger on line most of the day, so feel free to contact me if you want, I think i can be of some help..:)) Take the best care, regards, TITO
 
  TITO  Posted: 21/11/2006 10:33
Zee, Please refer also to my earlier posts if you like;regards, TITO
 
  Sara  Posted: 21/11/2006 15:14
To Zee and all my other "heart friends," Zee, I know too well what you are going trough and it is so very scarey!! I started having an irregualr heartbeat at the age of 30 and after 20 years, they have gotten much worse. I am now having them sometimes about every 30 seconds, it is soo annoying. Sometimes I cannot sleep at night because of them. I live in the United States and have been seeing the two top cardiologists in the US. They both specialize in Electrophysiology(The electrical system of the heart) I have had numerous echocardiograms, event monitors and holter monitors. I was recently put on Beta Blockers but the medication made me very depressed with no energy. My cardiologist told me that Beta Blockers had terrible side effects and I did not have to take them unless I wanted to. I had an oppoinment with him last week and he commented on my EKG that looked like it was from outer space!! He said--"Sara, you are NOT going to die from this!!!!" This was very encouraging and I hope it makes all of you feel a lot better. In fact, he told me that he has an irregular heartbeat and also the technician that hooked me up to a monitor has it. I am being told by many medical professionals that this heart arrythmia is VERY commom today, who knows why!!!! My present cardiologist informed me that the stress caused by this condition is much worse than the actual irregular heartbeat. I have tried magnesium which does not work for me and fish oil suppplements made my condition much worse. I will get the results of my testing the end of this month. Sooo, I think we should all try to accept this condtion and try not to stress out about it--(easier said than done!!!) I have found that taking walks every day helps. I would also like to thank everyone for their postings, it helps to know that we are not alone!!!!!! Good luck to everyone and PLEASE try not to stress out about this condition, as it only makes things worse. And thanks again for all of the great information in your postings. I hope I have been of some help to all of my heart buddies.
 
  Zee  Posted: 22/11/2006 03:10
Hey Tito thanks for your response I appreciate it alot. I did tried to email you but it didn't go threw. So tell me your story, do you suffer from palpatations too? You can email me if you'd like my email is zeevegasbingo@yahoo.com as for me once again I'm having a hard time falling asleep. I have to take my lanoxin and zocor soon so I just stay up anhd wait. Does anyone else take lanoxin that can give me so information, like does it work for you cause for some reason nothing is working for me. As I type my heart is fluttering a mile minute. I don't know what to do, I am freaking out. For as long as I v'e had these episode every one is new to me and I get so upset over it, no matter how many times I've had them. I keep thinking this is it the one thats going to kill me. I wish this was a chat room so that I can speak to someone who knows what I'm going through. Does stomach gas cause them, or does palpitations cause stomach gas? I am a nervous wreck right now and probably won't go to bed. I'm so scared.
 
  Carol in U.S.  Posted: 22/11/2006 04:46
Zee. I am 41 yr old female. I know exactly how you are feeling. Even with the loved one at home not being any help. You can email me at sweazys2002@yahoo.com or my yahoo messenger ID is brewbabe4u. My heart rate gets up in the 150s and its scary as hell.
 
  Sara  Posted: 22/11/2006 14:57
Hi everyone, it's me again. I forgot to add two interesting things in my last posting. When I saw my cardiologist last week, he asked me if I had a pet dog, whcih I do. He told me to go home, put my hand on the dog's chest and I would feel a very irregular heartbeat. He told me that humans were the only creatures on earth that even had steady heartbeats at all. Sure enough, my dog's heartbeat was very irregular!! This was a very interesting discovery!!! Also, I ran into a friend several days ago that I had not seen in years. I was telling him about my irreugular heartbeat. He said his Mom had it most of her life and she just passed away at the ago of 90. The illness that took her life was NOT the irregualr hearbeat!!!!!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 22/11/2006 22:13
Has anyone had an Electrophysiological Study carried out followed by an ablation procedure for atrial fibrillation? I have AF for 6 years, was on amiodorone, now on beta blockers but considering having study and ablation done but would like to hear from someone who has gone through it and how you faired?
 
  TITO  Posted: 23/11/2006 08:48
Sara, thanks for the great insights and thecontiniuos positive support, TITO
 
  Zee  Posted: 24/11/2006 15:45
Hello my heart buddies I hope that everyone hd a great Thanksgiving. I gave thanks for not having palpitations yesterday! First I'd like to say thank you Sara, Carol, and Tito for your response to my posting. You have no clue how much it meant to me. My email is zeevegasbingo@yahoo.com please email me so we can be chat buddies, I really need friends in my life that know exactly what I'm going through. Not that the friends I have now aren't supportive but they just don't know how I feel cause they don't get heart palpitations, you understand? I love them for being there but it just isn't the same as you guys. Spoke to my cardiologist's nurse and they gave me an appointment for Dec 15 to see me she stated that the Dr got the records from the ER trip I made by ambulance (heart rate 135 per min but steady not irregular on Nov 19) and they saw nothing different from the regular PVC so there is no need to get an emergency app. Told me to continue my meds until I see the DR. and go back to ER if need be. Now wasn't that nice of them to call me??? I am at me last end, I don't know what to do anymore I feel like I am a burden to everyone, even in the ER they look at me like here she is again. Sara your dog story was cute and the story about your friend"s mom was very inspiring, it made me laugh.(not that I laugh at someone dieing) I'm sure you know what I mean. Carol thanks for your posting it helped alot. Tito telling me I'll get through it helped. I hade a good day yesterday, only a few palps and I finally was able to fall asleep. Keep in touch guys! GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
 
  Connie(LKO55458)  Posted: 25/11/2006 03:23
Thank you for this web site and thread! I'm 50 and my heart has been acting weird for a few weeks just as described here by those starting menopause. Last night while on my left side it woke me up beating like crazy. I thought I might be leading up to a heart attack. I could have posted any number of the descriptions you have here. What is a relief to find this wonderful site from Ireland. No longer so scared. I will stop the fish oil A and follow other recommendations here.
 
  Sara  Posted: 26/11/2006 23:33
Forgot to add some very important info in my last postings. I sarted out with episodes of tachycardia(rapid heartbeat) 20 years ago. I ended up in ER about four times and had to be given an IV to slow the heartrate down to normal. Last year my cardiologist told me to do this when the tachycardia starts--Take a very deep breath, close your mouth and hold your nostrils, then bear down really hard like you are doing a bowel movement. Repeat if it doesn't work the first time. I know this sounds really wierd but it does work. I have had tachycardia twice in the past year and it worked both times. It should stop the rapid heatbeat within about 30 seconds. Another cardiologist at the Arizona Heart Institute also told me about this. Even though you might poop in your pants (HA), it sure beats going to the emergency room!!!! Sometimes the most simple things work!!I hope this also works for all of my heart buddies---GOOD LUCK!!!!!!
 
  Trevorr  Posted: 28/11/2006 12:48
With regard to my last post, i can be reached on tvmills@hotmail.com ...any advice or suggestions would be appreciated!!! many thanks Trevorr
 
  Trevorr  Posted: 29/11/2006 09:11
Hi, i\'ve been getting missed beats in my heart rate recently. I\'ve had the 24 hour monitorm ECG etc and all\'s come back normal... does anyone else have missed beats...they last for a second or so and I feel really werid/ (maybe cos i begin to panic?) I\'m 37, generally good health... i feel though that sometimes they come on the day after i have been running? werid or what! i can usually sleep at night, and then get this sensation the next day at my desk. I dont drink caffine anymore. Any ideas? or advice? u think Mag supplement would help? Thanks for you help and having this site..its sooo reassuring!! Trevorr.
 
  TITO  Posted: 29/11/2006 09:38
All,i have some may be usefull news, one week ago one of my reportees came to me to chat about a medical issue he is having, he informed me that he used to suffer from some dizziness for a couple of years, but he was quite not in shape about three weeks ago, and when checked by a doctor he found some irregularities in the pulse ( that he never felt and was not feeling during the investigation) so he sent him to monitor investigation. The investigation came as follows: around 10000 PVCs and 5000 PACs per 24 hours as isolated or RUNS or couplets, simply his issue is that he started feeling everyone of them now when his attention was drawn to this and this is ruining his life. I am handling his case but what i want to drive through my message is: 1- The guy most propably was having this for 2 years and simply did not know about it and was having a happy life and simply by focusing on them he is loosing his happiness!! 2- He is having a 15000 prematures ( PVCs and PACs) in isolated and runs and he is able to do his job and what is limiting him is his mental state not physical state. SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ENJOY YOUR LIFE TO THE FULLEST if you are given the all OK from your doctor......:))))) regards, TITO , T_I_T_O_1975@yahoo.com
 
  Christine(FNZ55743)  Posted: 03/12/2006 01:37
Hey from Canada I have been suffering from PVC's for a couple of years now on and off. I finally had the holster monitoring done and will be getting my results soon. While wearing the monitor I experienced lots of extra beats. It had been in the past every time I complained about PVC's they would not show up in any EKG's. My Cardio doctor is positive that I am fine and it is nothing to worry about but still it is NOT a nice experience for anyone. I have quit coffee, cola's and find that decaffeinated coffee still affects me. I can not believe that two cups of decaffeinated can keep me awake at night. I also find that drinking alcohol will give me a rapid heart rate several hours after I stop drinking, in fact the last time I had drank (before I finally gave it up) I woke up at 2 in the morning with a heart rate of 166. I went to the hospital and they admitted me for the night. I really enjoyed having a few pints on the weekends but it's just not worth it anymore. I am now on a beta blocker but I still feel the PVC's. My cousin was just diagnosed with Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy and our Grandma had this as well. My doctor was not concerned when I told him this. He really thinks because I have such high anxiety that I am proof of an extreme case of panic disorder/general anxiety disorder. It is not nice when one has anxiety doctors always label you just an over reactive nut job and there is NOTHING wrong with you. Thanks for listening.
 
  Steve Texas  Posted: 17/12/2006 10:55
Hello everyone !! Well I posted a few months back my Palps and I have been keeping a log...and I have usally around 3 to 4 a week....I noticed that alot of you have them at night...but so far I have only had about 2 at night and it was when I way lying on my left side. It seems my most popular time is when im lefting or get hot by working and when my back is hurting, which two Dr's told me that back pain and bring them on as well. The scary part is when I have one I start to sweat and as everyone else my heart rate goes up alittle..I know this is from anxiety...and after alittle, everything is fine....again my Dr. also tells me that its from stress and not to worry about it...but hey I guess we all do !! lol I have found that taking anxiety medicine ( Zanics ) really helps and by not over eating and using only decaf drinks !! Hope everyone has a great Christmas without to many Pulps !! lol
 
  Sara  Posted: 18/12/2006 15:55
Hello my fellow heart buddies, In an earlier posting, I had told everyone that I was seeing a cardiologist in Austin, Texas, due to very frequent arrythmias. He had told me that my irregualr heartbeat was not life thretening but I could take a beta blocker if it would help with the anxiety. I tried the beta blocker, Toprol, for several weeks and it made me severly depressed with no enery at all. It also caused a ringing in my ears which has not subsided yet. Unfortunatly, this is one of the side effects of beta blockers, along with many others. Meanwhile, we returned to our second home in Arizona and I recently had extensive testing done at the Arizona Heart Institute as a second oppinion. My arrythmias had become constant and I was very concerned. I just received my test results last week and the cardiologist assured me that my arrythmias were NOT life threatening and he did not reccomend any medication because of possible side effects. He infomed me that he also had this condition and they are seeing many, many patients with arrythmias. I have done extensive research on this condition and I am convinced that food additives are one of the causes of irreuglar heartbeats. I am now eating mostly raw fruits and vegetables, drinking LOT's of water and taking daily walks. I am having very few arrythmias now!!!! I think what has helped me the most is being told once again that this condition was not life threatening so I am now able to ignore these strange beats. Anxiety definitly worsens the condition. My advice to everyone is to have extensive testing to make sure that your condition is not life threatening, which it is probably NOT!!! Unless your physican tells you that you MUST take medication because of your condition, DON'T take it if he gives you a choice!!!!! Unfortunantly, so many phamecutical drugs cause worse side effects than the illness they are treating. Let me repeat, follow your physicians instructions! Everyone's body chemistry is different and what may work for one person may not work for the other. I just wanted to share my information and experiences with this condition. Good luck to all of you and PLEASE don't worry about this condition which is mostly ALWAYS benign!! All of your postings have been so very helpful!! THANK YOU and Happy Holidays!
 
  George(NIV39780)  Posted: 18/12/2006 23:06
I posted some time back about successfully stopping my palpitations with aloe vera softgels. I just want to update everyone that after taking them for 18 months, I have stopped taking them and after two months of being off of them the palpitations have not returned. Apparently in my case they cured the palpitations.
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 21/12/2006 17:40
I had a long history of heart PALPITATIONS and was diagnosed years ago with Mitral Valve Prolapse (MVP). The effect was quite debilitating and tiring and I had grown to believe there was no solution. In my case, there was. I discovered through the internet that MVP Syndrome can be a result of a problem with the autonomic nervous system. It was recommended to take Magnesium Citrate and Co-Q10 among other dietary supplements. I did this and and after a few weeks my heart resumed 'normal service'. That was about 8-10 years ago and I haven't experienced palpitations since and have much greater energy. I am a male, now 70 years of age and enjoying retirement. My hear consultant, who had diagnosed my MVP about 25 years ago, was very interested to see the dramatic improvement. For those with unexplained palpitations it would cost virtually nothing to try.
 
  Paul  Posted: 02/01/2007 13:36
George Did you use any particular brand or strength of aloe vera softgel?
 
  Eyecandy-welshgirl  Posted: 08/01/2007 22:08
HELLO shawswelshgirl - it's me becky from Cardiff. I had baby girl Amelia she's 23 weeks now. time goes fast.i changed my email and lost the other one before i had time to email you the new one. I still get palpitations but no where near as bad as when i was preganant. hope you, husband and kids are well??? are you still getting them?? take care - becky x
 
  ian(WPP57038)  Posted: 10/01/2007 20:27
hi..........i get heart palpitations almost every day after a hard days work (i have a pysical type job) i do not smoke or drink alcohol and i have recently stopped drinking coffee, i have had a ECG test done about 5 months ago but nothing showed up there.........does anybody have any advise for me
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 11/01/2007 10:53
See my posting of 21st Dec.
 
  Steve  Posted: 20/01/2007 21:18
Just to let everyone know...my Doctor as put me on a Bata Blocker called: Toprol-XL that has stopped most of all of my Pulps !!!...He took me of my normal blood pressure meds and switched me over to the medicine and has been a lifesaver for me....again it has worked out GREAT !! One last thing on a personal note...has anyone noticed pulps during or after sex ?? this would seem to happen to me in a few blue moons...but just thought I would ask !!
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 22/01/2007 10:09
Steve, not me! I only have sex once in a Blue Moon...
 
  Mrs. Enigma  Posted: 22/01/2007 14:50
I am 29, and have been hasving palpitations for 2 weeks. I drabk 2 cups of coffee a day and one glass of wine every other day. I cut all that out, but it has not changed anything. I got a bloody nose last night. Is this related somehow? I also get a tight feeling in my chest, slight chest pain, and sometimes back pain...all on the left side. I think I have 20-45 noticeable palpitations per day. I think usually it is closer to 25. By noticeable I mean the big flip flop feeling, like your heart turned inside out for a second. I had and ekg, and wore a holter moniter for a day, but don't have any results yet. I have a lot of stress in my life right now. I don't have palpitations when I first wake up. Sometimes bass seems to trigger them..like in music or in a movie. They get frequent in the evening. I am usually sitting or lying down when they happen. Sometimes I think being hunched over makes them worse. I am not over weight and I exercise/dance to music almost every day. I eat healthy. I limit my fat intake to 200 cal. or 22 grams of fat a day. I have done this for a very long time. I was wondering if having so little fat in my diet could have done something? Also, how would I reduce my adrenaline output or whatever...be bored all the time? Someone on here mentioned Paxil. Is that used to treat it, because I don't want any of those sorts of drugs . I feel even more stressed out now that this is happening, and I wonder is exercise too hard on my heart now, or is it still good?
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 22/01/2007 17:14
Mrs Enigma, see my posting of 21/12/2006 above. Magnesium Citrate and CoQ10 are both good for the heart and they won't do any harm in trying. And they are cheap. Works for me and I had been having palpitations for years and years.
 
  Robyn(TKS57726)  Posted: 26/01/2007 18:39
Finding this site is a blessing. I guess what I'm having is heart palpitations. It's like a feeling in the top of my stomach and I can feel my pulse skip a beat. It makes me cough sometimes or feel like it. I have pressure in my chest as well and bloating under my ribs. Not comfortable. I have had this for about a year. I'm very hypothyroid right now. I had a total thyroidectomy, so mine is totally gone. I haven't had good follow up health care because of the expense in the USA and me with now health insurance. My doctor increased my thyoid meds and I get checked in 6 weeks again. I'm wondering if my thyroid could be the underlying reason for the heart palpitations. My TSH is 13 right now, so hopefully that will come down some. I'm very fatigued. I also find myself wondering if certain foods might cause this, like diary, especially milk. As you can see like everyone here I'm looking for a reason. I did have a stress test and they injected something into me and took pictures of my heart a year ago. I know that came back ok. I don't know how fast a person could develop heart trouble. Thank you for being here, all of you. Best Wishes
 
  Naima(TMU57771)  Posted: 28/01/2007 16:41
Hello... I had the scariest thing happen to my heart a few nights ago... Out of nowhere, my heart started skipping beats for long periods of time. I experienced lightheadedness and thought I was going to pass out. The entire episode lasted for about 5 minutes straight... and in moments I thought I was going to die. During that time, my heart would beat normally for 3-5 beats and then, suddenly my heart wouldn't beat at all for 2-3 seconds. Rather than call 911, I called a friend (she has a set of keys to my appartment and so I thought if anything happened to me while I was on the phone with her, she could always come to my rescue). Anyway, she told me that she experienced the same thing several years ago when visiting family in Denmark. Like me, the entire incident lasted about 5 minutes. She was a cigarette smoker at the time and after speaking with her doctor about it, he mentioned that her smoking was the cause of the palpitations. Anyway, I, too, am a smoker, and have recently smoked more cigarettes than I usually do. No, I'm not under any sort of stress and know for sure that I wasn't having an anxiety/panic attack (I used to get them years ago, and this definately wasn't one of them). Luckily, I see my doctor tomorrow... I'm sure she will tell me to quit smoking. I've cut down immensely since the incident with my heart a few days ago - which I know isn't good enough - I need to quit altogether! At any rate, over these last few days following the incident, my heart will occassionally skip a beat or two, but nothing severe compared to 3 nights ago. I am 45 years old, and always pass my general physical exams with flying colors. Anyway, I will let you all know what happens after my visit with the doctor tomorrow. All the very best to you all!
 
  Tara  Posted: 29/01/2007 11:17
Robyn, I too am hypothyroid and have suffered from palps in the past. I'm not too familiar with health insurance in the U.S. but I do know that TSH of 13 is way WAY to high. My TSH was 5.4 when I started treatment and that was enough to set off alarm bells for the doctor. 0.2 to 2.0 is a good target to aim for, for TSH. Once medication got mine below 2.7 the palps completely disappered. I can't see how dairy or milk would affect them and if your female, of course, you need your calcium
 
  Paulo  Posted: 31/01/2007 12:13
Steve - i have just seen your post dated 20/1/2007. I am 48 years old and I have had palps for some time now, occasionally. Recently however I have begun to experience them more often and sometimes I get the momentary flutter, skipped a beat type but more frequently now I get the regular pounding in the chest type. Sometimes I get this during sex and my heart seems to pound uncontrollably. The blood must be rushing around my body and it's not going to the right place! It doesn't happen every time I have sex but more frequently recently. Do the beta blockers you take stop the palps during sex? I have a lot of anxiety and stress to deal with at the moment and I'm sure that is part of the problem. I am thinking of going to the doc to get checked again but when I mentioned the palps in the past he took my BP and listened to my heart, said it was all fine and it was all down to the anxiety. As well as during sex I get the same beating chest in confrontation situations as well. Its beginning to bug me a lot especially when it happens during sex. Does anyone else have similar experiences?
 
  Steve from Texas  Posted: 05/02/2007 02:00
Paulo...the Toprol-XL Beta Blocker has worked great for me...it has really stopped the pulps but when my anxiety gets alittle to high I feel a rumble in my lower stomack....I guess this is another form of pulps but nothing like the other....and yes as my Dr has said to much stress will bring it all on worse !! I just lost my mom to cancer and our whole family has really been stressed out more than nomal as you can exspect !! but again...ask your Dr. about the Toprol-XL...I take 50 mg a day with one to two Clonipans for the anxiety...and everything as really been going well !! Good Luck !!
 
  Naima(TMU57771)  Posted: 07/02/2007 15:43
Hello everybody in the discussion group. My doctor had me have some additional tests made: A Stress test and a 24 Hour Holter Monitor. I won't find out the results for a couple of weeks. In the meantime, I have set a quit date for stopping smoking (which is the 16 of February). I had to wait that long, because I will be taking a non-nicotine medication starting one week before. I will get the prescription for that medication when I see my doctor this Thursday. Wearing the 24 hr. holter monitor made me realize how often I experience palpitations... I logged over 60 in a twenty-four hour period. It might not sound like that many, but usually they came back to back when they occured... about 5 in a row over a 5 minute period. Meanwhile, I learned that my doctor thinks I might have an arrythmias due to my EKG's being abnormal ( I have inverted T-Waves). The good thing, though, is that my blood tests turned out normal (I did them twice). So that's my update on the tests I've been taking for the incident I experienced with my heart 2 weeks ago. I'll update you again when I learn something more from my doctor. Meanwhile, I wish everybody in this discussion group the very best! Steve from Texas... I am so sorry to hear about your mother's passing. I know how difficult it is to lose a mother. Take good care of your heart by keeping the stress at a minimum.
 
  Paulo  Posted: 07/02/2007 16:21
Steve from Texas I too am sorry to hear abour your mothers passing. it happened to me also in Sept 04 and I know how upsetting and stressful it can be. Thanks for the information about Toprol-XL.
 
  Sara  Posted: 08/02/2007 00:14
To Steve in Texas, Was good to see someone else from the Lone Star State. Where in Texas do you live? I live outside of Austin. If you are in this area, I would like to reccommened a GREAT cardiologist. His name is Dr. James Black and he specializes in heart rythms. I also took Toprol for several months and it definitly helped. I am not taking medication now, as the arrythmias have become very infrequent now that I am back in Arizona. I live in Texas and Arizona and find that I have the irregular heartbeats much worse when I am in Texas. I am starting to think that it is perhaps allergy reactions, such as vegetation or humidity. Anyway, this is interesting. Another person on this website had stated that her child did not have the irregular heartbeats while visiting Arizona. My cardiologist told me that allergies could definilty play a part in the irregular heartbeats. Also, am so sorry about the loss of your Mom. Stress definitly does make this condition worse. Godd luck to you and keep in touch.
 
  Renee  Posted: 09/02/2007 15:33
I'm 37 and have been having heart palpitations since August this year. I get them a couple of times a week and they last for several hours at a time - have about 3 or 4 premature beats per minute. I've had a check-up and ECG and just completed a holter test (get my results next week). My doctor just puts it down to stress but I think it may have something to do with hormones. The palpitations are more common at particular times of the month (mainly the week after my period). Does this ring any bells with anyone. I've been having acupuncture, just in case they are stress related and have also been meditating but with no noticeable change. They also appear quite a lot when I'm eating. Does anyone have any tips? I am slim, eat healthily, don't smoke and run regularly. I do drink and have one cup of coffee a day but these don't appear to have any impact on my symptoms.
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 09/02/2007 17:01
Hi Renee, I went through all the tests with a cardiologist about a year ago, and was given a "clean bill of health". I started taking Magnesium Glycinate daily and my symptoms have most definitely improved. I'm 45 years old, and I decided to monitor my symptoms on a calendar. Sure enough, the week before my period and the week I ovulate are the worst. Other times, my symptoms are now minimal to non-existent. I truly believe my symptoms are hormone-related. I'm still testing things to find what will work for me during these times. Exercise definitely helps, and a strict "no caffeine" policy hasn't hurt either. I am also trying to avoid foods with preservatives. Good luck to you and keep us posted here! Stephanie
 
  love  Posted: 21/02/2007 21:49
Hello everyone, my name is Cecilia and I have been suffering with heart palpitations for three years now. I have had all the tests done and everything is fine. It\'s good and bad news at once, but I have been reading a couple of commets and I heard many of you mention magnesium pills. Do they really work and do I need to get them prescribed by a doc? Or can I just buy them myself?
 
  Trevorr  Posted: 22/02/2007 10:29
I\'ve used this site before and posted messages in the past. I thought i was getting better but last night i played 5 a side football for an hour or so, this morning i wake up, go to work and now having a horrendous time with missed beats, they seem to be happening every 3 or 4th beat and seem to be going on all morning!! example.. 1,2,3,...4, 1,2,3...4..So after thinking i was getting over it they are back. There is NO crazy fast beats or anything like that but just pauses in the beats. Its seems to happen each day after i\'ve been running or playing football or when not having enough sleep. I can feel them now, and like posts before ..feel like i need to cough and have a sort of heavy feeling when breathing. It drives me crazy!!
 
  Amanda(UHB58385)  Posted: 22/02/2007 10:35
Hi Cecilia, I've been taking a magnesium supplement for the last two weeks and my symptoms have disappeared, and fingers crossed, they won't come back. I just take one 125mg tablet from a health food shop or you can also eat lots of magnesium-rich foods like nuts and avocados. I obviously can't guarantee that it'll work for you but it seems to have helped me and it's perfectly safe if you keep the dosage low. Keep us posted! R
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 22/02/2007 12:25
Hi Cecelia, See my post of 21st Dec. 2006. Magnesium Citrate, along with CoEnzyme Q10 and Vitamin B complex (all available over the counter in Ireland where I live) work extremely well for me. I am now 70 and had experienced palpitations for as long as I can remember until I discovered magnesium. Now I can exercise as much as I want without ill-effects or feeling tired. Try it and let us know in a few weeks if you feel better.
 
  marnia  Posted: 22/02/2007 13:35
Hi all..Haven\'t been on the site for a while....but keeping well...tried Magnesium..seems to help..but I think most of my problem is stress-related because keeping a diary has shown that flying sets mine off...ended up in A&E the day after I arrived home from Tunisia and was concious of the palps. on the flight..but tried distracting myself as much as I could. Going away again March but I think now I know what to expect I will be better prepared mentally..\'cos I\'m STILL here to tell the tale..even though I think at the time that I\'m going to die !!! Will let you know how I got on when I get back !!!
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 26/02/2007 22:44
I'd like to take a little poll. All of us here have these symptoms and most of us have gotten a clean bill of health from our doctors/ cardiologists. So the question remains. . . How do you cope with it? Do you have specific coping methods that help you get through it easier? Like when you're at work, with other people, etc. I'd share mine. . .but I don't have any yet - aside from some slow, deep breathing. What are yours?
 
  marnia  Posted: 27/02/2007 13:21
Hi Stephanie...good idea.. we will all learn from each other....mine is distraction...try to do something a little strenuous..not tooooooo strenuous as I\'m almost 66..so don\'t want to do any damage...but sweep the floor..do a bit of gardening...anything to distract myself as I notice them more when I stop and rest...I don\'t really know whether I just don\'t notice them when I\"m busy !!! I\'ve had blood tests recently..I do keep an eye on my potassium levels as there seems to be a link between my potassium levels dropping and setting off the A. Fib. so I do keep that in hand and INSIST on having a blood test at least every 6 months or so..I don\'t care if the Dr. thinks I\'m a hypochondriac... its MY peace of mind that matters, not how busy he is. Though my Dr. is great and always goes with me. My number at the moment is 4. and that\'s good because potassium seems to be the base of my problem. It took several months to agree on that, but every time I had a bad episode, potassium levels were very low. So I make sure I have a good potassium rich diet. I stay away from tea, coffee, coke etc. caffeine doesn\'t like me. Hope this helps some of you, and looking forward to more ideas...Keep well and happy everyone !
 
  starrynights  Posted: 27/02/2007 21:52
Hi, not sure if any of you noticed some messages back that someone recommended taking aloe vera gel caps? Anyway, thought I'd give it a try (as I've tried most everything else) and it works!!! I haven't had bad palpitations in almost a week. The couple I did have early on after I started the gel caps were very mild, almost unnoticeable. I haven't had anything work this well; for me, it's been a godsend. I take a 1000mg calcium/500mg magnesium tablet in the morning and 1 aloe gel cap in the morning and one in the evening. Hope this helps someone!
 
  Kieran  Posted: 01/03/2007 11:46
This site is great and reassuring. Here\'s my story, any reassurance or advice would be appreciated. I\'m 37, generally in good health. Had a kidney stone about 9 years ago or so but nothing else. A year ago or so i noticed i was getting pauses in my heart. I had Ecg\'s / 24 hour heart monitor, but they basically said that that although i had yes ecoptic beats or something irregular that all was okay. Things seemed to go away for a while but for the last few weeks i felt them come back. I was intially getting them more at night whjen lying down. Some nights i could not get to sleep as i felt a fluttering feeling and sometimes felt i was going to pass out but now i look back it may have beeen me panicking. However after getting them at night i have also been getting them during the day.These come not only after i\'ve been exercising (usually the next day)but also when i\'m sitting down etc. There\'s literally no set routine or anything for it to come on, though i find exercising :playing football or running does seem at times to trigger it within 24 hours. The symptons : a definite pause in heart beat lasting for no longer than 2 seconds. I feel a fluttering and at times like a panicy feeling/nervous type jolt...its very difficiult to explain in words! I dont get a thump or anything although i had that once while lying in bed and once only when it become a fast beat...usually its a normal beat with a clear pause. This normally goes on for hours or even can last day after day..though throughout the day it may subside and then return. I have now asked for a treadmill test as i\'m really fed up with it and thought it had gone last year. My Gp wants me to have anotehr ECG but to be honest they never seem to pick anything up! Does anyone else get pauses like this? no thump or anything it\'s just a clear pause for a second or two and then it gets back to a normal rate. My heart rate is 65 to 68 a minute. Many thanks, apologies for rambling! I\'m just fed up with it!!
 
  Renee  Posted: 01/03/2007 13:28
Kieran, I sympathise totally with what you're experiencing. I've had the same thing since September and just as I think they've gone, they come back for no apparent reason. I can be in the shower, eating my lunch or walking down the road. I'm the same age as you and am fit and healthy (I do a lot of distance running). I had the 24 hour holter test three weeks ago and nothing much was picked up. My doctor said that the ectopic beats were normal and my heart rate good. He suggested exercise helps the beats and said that anything can bring them on - cigarette smoke, alchol, spicy foods, tiredness and it's very difficult to pinpoint the causes. I've found, through everything from yoga and meditation to cutting out wheat and taking probiotics (there appears to be quite a strong link between palpitations and stomach and bowel disturbances) that 250g of magnesium helps and is also particularly useful for preventing muscle spasms and cramp after/during running. I would advise you to have a go with the magnesium - i was really sceptical and at the end of my tether but it seems to be working for me, so have a go before you go nuts! ;)
 
  Renee  Posted: 09/03/2007 16:39
I think I must have spoken too soon - the magnesium stopped my palpitations for nearly a month but they've been back with a vengeance this week. I had been taking them with aloe vera but ran out of aloe vera about a week ago. Does anyone else know if this combination works or if it's all just coincidence?? I've upped my dose of magnesium to 500mg to see if that helps. Very diisappointing as I really thought I'd found a treatment that worked. Any other natural suggestions? Rx
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 09/03/2007 17:51
Renee, try Co-enzyme Q10 (CoQ10) with the magnesium.
 
  starrynights  Posted: 09/03/2007 20:09
Renee, Take a look at the Heart Palpitations - Revisited posts. You'll find lots of real good info in the last 2-3 posts. I currently take a combo of coQ10 which is needed for heart health then take 500mg Magnesium once and 2 or 3 aloe vera gel caps throughout the day. This seems to work and when I do get a palp (which isn't very often anymore) it's usually very mild. I am however, going to take Nick up on his regime which is also totally naturual and again is posted under the 'Revisited' topic. Hormonal changes; especially if you're perimenopausal brings on palpitations or increases them if you've had them in the past.
 
  Belucciemz  Posted: 15/03/2007 14:11
I used to get attacks of them when i was 16 from small amounts of alcohol, my heart would race hours after said drink and i would begin to get dizzy. The palpitations are very scary, i am now of legal drinking age and no longer suffer from them. Is it possible that there is some underlying heart condition though if such small (a half a shot of vodka with a mixer drunk slowly) amounts of alcohol were affecting me?
 
  D(ANS59485)  Posted: 16/03/2007 14:00
Belucciemz, It is common for people to suffer atrial tachycardia/Afib after drinking alcohol or after eating a big meal. It is a bit complicated but it has to do with the heart's parasympathetic nervous system. This system releases a chemical (acetycholine) into the cardiac tissue during these times (there are other situations as well) and allows the atrium to be more susceptible to the tachycardia. It doesn't mean it will happen everytime you have a drink but the risk is higher during these times..
 
  Nick  Posted: 17/03/2007 08:17
Hi All, You might wish to come over the "Heart Palpitations Revisited" discussion. We should consolidate these two groups since we are covering the same material. Here is my recent post to that discussion: (We are making very good progress at beating this monster!) I have been doing some research this week on Aloe Vera Gel. Two years ago I was all over the inflammation connection when I discovered its effects on my palps. I would not have found this so soon if it were not for George. We owe a huge "thank you" to George! It is collaborative innovative networks like this that allow us to solve problem in the open source model. We are now closing in on the acute causes of palpitations. Doctors don't seem much interested in finding solutions since palps don't kill you or leave you disfigured. They prefer to mask the symptoms. And really, we can't blame doctors. In the big picture, the few that get palps are insignificant in the scheme of things. We are not enough in numbers to warrant tossing a lot of research money at. We, in this group, of course, see things very differently. We all just want to beat the problem. In searching the medical journals today, I found these three bits of information - and I am sifting through volumes more. Two of the articles are published clinical studies. Note the connections to both blood sugar and inflammation. Many people suffer palps shortly after eating or laying down to rest. I know that in my own case, changes in blood sugar chemistry nearly always set off palps or pre-palpitative conditions. I am going to find some more folks with palps and see if we can achieve the same effects with our herbal cocktail. I think I will visit Wikipedia and start a Wiki on "Heart Palpitations. ----------------------------------------------------- Antioxidant properties and PC12 cell protective effects of APS-1, a polysaccharide from Aloe vera var. chinensis. Institute of Functional Biomolecules, State Key Laboratory of Pharmaceutical Biotechnology, Nanjing University, PR China. Through a combination of anion-exchange and repeated gel chromatographies, APS-1 was isolated from fresh leaves of Aloe vera L. var. chinensis (Haw.) Berger (an edible and medicinal plant widely cultivated and consumed in China) as a principal polysaccharide composed of mannose and glucose (ca. 18:5) with its molecular weight around 2.1 x 10(5). In a dose-dependent manner, APS-1 was demonstrated to be free radical scavenging in superoxide and hydroxyl radical assays, inhibitory to the copper-mediated oxidation of human low density lipoprotein (LDL), and protective against hydrogen peroxide (H(2)O(2))-induced lesion to rat PC12 cell (pheochromocytoma cell line). The result suggested that APS-1 could be of considerable preventive and therapeutic significance to some free radical associated health problems such as coronary heart ailments, Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases. Furthermore, the finding shed as well fresh light helpful for a better understanding of the health-benefiting potential of the edible plant consumed by the Chinese people for a couple of centuries. PMID: 16150464 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ------------------------- Abstract: Background: The herbal preparation, aloe vera, has been claimed to have anti-inflammatory effects and, despite a lack of evidence of its therapeutic efficacy, is widely used by patients with inflammatory bowel disease. Conclusion: Oral aloe vera taken for 4 weeks produced a clinical response more often than placebo; it also reduced the histological disease activity and appeared to be safe. Further evaluation of the therapeutic potential of aloe vera gel in inflammatory bowel disease is needed. ------------------------- Aloe Vera Gel and blood sugar... Biochemical Research Laboratory, Morinaga Milk Industry Co., Ltd, Kanagawa, Japan. m_tanaka@morinagamilk.co.jp The genus Aloe in the family Liliaceae is a group of plants including Aloe vera (Aloe barbadensis MILLER) and Aloe arborescens (Aloe arborescens MILLER var. natalensis BERGER) that are empirically known to have various medical efficacies. In the present study, we evaluated the anti-hyperglycemic effect of Aloe vera gel and isolated a number of compounds from the gel. On the basis of spectroscopic data, these compounds were identified as lophenol, 24-methyl-lophenol, 24-ethyl-lophenol, cycloartanol, and 24-methylene-cycloartanol. These five phytosterols were evaluated for their anti-hyperglycemic effects in type 2 diabetic BKS.Cg-m(+/+)Lepr(db/J) (db/db) mice. In comparison with the hemoglobin A1c (HbA1c) levels of vehicle-treated mice, statistically significant decreases of 15 to 18% in HbA1c levels were observed in mice treated with 1 mug of the five phytosterols. Considering the ability to reduce blood glucose in vivo, there were no differences between the five phytosterols. Administration of beta-sitosterol did not reduce the blood glucose levels in db/db mice. After administration of the five phytosterols for 28 d, fasting blood glucose levels decreased to approximately 64%, 28%, 47%, 51%, and 55% of control levels, respectively. Severe diabetic mice treated with phytosterols derived from Aloe vera gel did not suffer weight reduction due to glucose loss in the urine. These findings suggest that Aloe vera gel and phytosterols derived from Aloe vera gel have a long-term blood glucose level control effect and would be useful for the treatment of type 2 diabetes mellitus. PMID: 16819181 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -----------------------------------
 
  Renee  Posted: 19/03/2007 13:57
Hi, Thanks for the tip about CoQ10 - how much should I take on a daily basis?
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 20/03/2007 12:46
Renee, I take a basic 30mg CoQ10 once a day in the mornings - it's a Viridian product with MCT. Works for me and should give you a small energy boost. I haven't felt so well since I was in my thirties and I'm now 70! Heartbeats
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 21/03/2007 12:28
Although I do not wish them upon anybody it was so good to know that I am not the only one in this world that suffers from palpitations.My life has been ruined by them......I started to get them around puberty and they have haunted my life on and off ever since.I am now 31 and mine are worse then ever.I spend my life with me fingers on my pulse and think that everytime I get them I'm going to die.I have been to my GP who has no sympathy and thinks the only solution is Beta Blockers.I am affraid to take any medications now even a paracetomol incase they aggravate my heart.I have had normal ECG's,24 Hr Tapes,Changed my diet and Started to take magnesium and Calcium but still my palps go on!!!I have the sort of palpitations that miss a beat then thud back into my chest.This goes on off and on everyday.I try to be strong but they terrify me.I don't just have to put up with them but also with the symptoms they bring.I feel sick,breathless,light headed and my heart feels weak most of the time.I know that I do suffer from Anxiety and I know they got worse when 3 years ago I started to suffer from what I can only describe as horrific panic attacks.I am now going to see a Hypnotherapist,as it did help me for a while last year.For all you sufferers out there my heart goes out to you!!!
 
  Mattw21  Posted: 22/03/2007 08:55
I am 42 and weight pretty much in proportion I am 6ft and live in Dubai. I have had palps for as long as I can remember as my Mom also has them, however no significant peak in family history of heart disease. I gave up ciggs a year ago after smoking moderately for 20 years 10-15 a day. I exercise around about 25klms per week but am out at the moment as went over on my ankle badly a few days ago. The other night I had what I call a grade 10 attack, normally once a few days I will get a flutter, but this one means as I rest I suddenly become agitated and a little sick then I am sort of getting out of bed in slow motion and walking very slowly in a kind of controlled panic as my heart does this coming in for landing slow pitta patter then all of a sudden I become a little lightheaded, not really dizzy and boom! my heart goes into overdrive. I have had panic attacks onthree occassions under acute stress, this is similar but the overall feeling is one of vagueness, can anybody advise if this is serious. Oh by the way I eat at about 21.00 every night and have tea at 10 but this normally does not bother me. Perhaps too much coffee??
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 22/03/2007 11:17
These palpitations are driving me mad!!!!!Does anyone know roughy when the effects of magnesium and calcium kick in.Was I a little unrealistic to expect results after 4 days.I am now going to try Aloe Vera!!
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 22/03/2007 11:25
To Matt21.Coffee is the worst thing for Palpitations.Even Decaff will aggravate your heart!!I get them really bad after just one cup.....I have suffered from Panic attack for 3yrs now,they cause all sorts of unusual symptoms.Try to get up and do something to try and take your mind off them and when you do get them don't over breathe.Breathe 4 in 4 out.It does help me and my panic attacks are severe.Also keep your self cool.If you are hot it makes you feel worse.I know that different techniques work for different people but I hope it is of some help.Please remember tea contains caffeine.Drink lots of water!!Take care.
 
  starrynights  Posted: 22/03/2007 18:52
Polly Anne, Aloe Vera does wonders--hopefully you'll see a dramatic difference. Also, if you can, refer to Nick and Georges' posts. Filled with invaluable info. Blessings....
 
  Heartbeats  Posted: 23/03/2007 19:27
Polly Anne, you may not need the calcium if you have a good diet. Calcium and magnesium have to be kept in balance in our systems. Many of us become deficient in magnesium as a result of modern intensive farming methods which deplete natural magnesium from the soil and consequently from our vegetables etc. Give the magnesium a week or two and try not to be too anxious.
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 26/03/2007 15:10
Heartbeats...Thank you for your advice.I will persevere and hopefully they will work because my heart feels like it is going to burst out of my chest!!
 
  Tim(AMX60334)  Posted: 29/03/2007 00:01
Very glad this web-site exists! I've been having heart palps for about a week now, every since coming home from a trip after being on a plane for 5 hours. I noticed a couple other people said being on a plane triggered their palps, is this common? Or is it the stress of being on a plane, or the anxiety from it, that can cause it?
 
  Mac  Posted: 29/03/2007 11:59
Hi I'm allergic to caffene and have terrible palpitations when I take it. Last night I indulged in a bag of chocolate peanuts and got them really bad has anyone ever got them after eating chocolate?
 
  marnia  Posted: 29/03/2007 15:59
Yes..I get them after chocolate...but still indulge...but at least I know that its the choc...and that its my own fault if I choose to eat it anyway...dark choc. rather then milk sets them off !!!
 
  Renee  Posted: 29/03/2007 19:49
Hi, I've been having palpitations ongoing now for about two weeks, after a three week break. I'm taking aloe vera gel tablets, plus CoQ10 but no improvement yet. I had two ECGs last week and again they couldn't find anything wrong despite the fact that the doctor could detect the ectopic beats with a stethoscope (approx 4 or 5 a minute). He advised me to just try to forget about them but also prescribed some beta blockers, which I'm yet to take - not sure they're really the answer. He also referred me to a cardiologist to see if they can get to the bottom of what's causing these annoying extra beats. He said it's definitely nothing serious but would be worth checking the electrical impulses within my heart and treating this if needs be. Anyone else had an experience like this? The doctor also laughed when I mentioned magnesium as he said that the likelihood of a deficiency is so small in a healthy individual - not sure. May well go back on the mg again.
 
  gary  Posted: 30/03/2007 01:38
I had a chest xray, ECG then a treadmil stress a few weeks ago, but I have to wait over 6 months for an echocardiogram, meanwhile my heart is racing (110 at rest), from looking at the papers I got I am a Public Patient (Cork, Ireland) is there such a thing as a Private echocardiogram?
 
  marty  Posted: 30/03/2007 01:40
I have had heart palpitations for a little over 2 yrs. Started when i was going to have a c-section and was going to be awake for it.. After that the palpitations remained. Dr said as long as there was no chest pain it was ok. i see a new Doctor now and had an ekg performed in her office today, turns out they are stress related.. What a relief.. just annoying!I drink no caffeine ever and i do smoke. on xanax xr and I asked for zoloft, surely that will help with all of my symptoms, at least im hoping they will.
 
  julie(AKF44258)  Posted: 30/03/2007 14:07
Hi Renee YOu sound just like me T started the skipped beats about a year ago this week they terrified me and I thought my end was near but as you can see Im still here. After several discussiions with the doctor [how come I never have the symptoms when Im at the docs?] I am now on beta blocker [atenenol] and take 1 magnesium tablet a day and one aloe vera gel. I sometimes get the odd episode now and then but nowhere near as bad as it was. Im convinced they are all menopausel! Ive tried weaning myself off the beta blockers but they come back strongly when I do. I was like you had the missed beats in 10 minute runs for about a week and then a 2/3 week break. Ive learned not to worry about them too much I dont like beimng on the pills but Im scared to come off them has anyone else out ther suffered like this and did they eventually go away thanks for all the posts they are really helpful Julie
 
  michelle(RNO54237)  Posted: 30/03/2007 15:08
Hi from Ireland.Been having these SVT,s for the past 12 years.Basically they come and go.Sometimes I go months without an episode.Have been in hosptal 3 times to slow down the heart as it was ver very fast at over 270.During the episodes I feel very tired and lightheaded and generally unwell.Have been twice to Cardiologists,all the tests were fine.Now taking verapmil 120mg slow release tabs. Last night I had an episode slightly different to the normal attacks,this time it felt like my heart was getting bigger and smalller rather than fast,also lightheaded and very tired even today I feel exhausted. I am only 38 and feel terrified everytime there is an episode,although I handle it better than in the past and this helps.
 
  Sara  Posted: 30/03/2007 18:42
Hi from Sara in the USA, Just wanted to let everyone know that I have had irregulart heartbeats for 25 years now and I'm still here!!!! They sarted out as very rapid heartbeats that sent me to the ER many times. Then the rythems changed over the years. Sometimes the skipped beats are contiunous all day long. Other times my heart feels like it is doing flip flops in my chest. I have seen the top cardiologists in the country and had every test available. Every doctor tells me they ARE NOT LIFE THREATENING!!! Supplents have not helped and the beta blockers made it worse. I am not taking anything now and find the best way to control them is to FORGET about them! I know this is easier said than done but anxiety about them definitly makes them worse. I have also determined that different areas of the country with different types of vegetation make them worse. I seldom have them in the dry Arizona climate. After reading the postings, it appears that everyone has different remedies that work best for them. Ignoring them has definitly worked best for me!!!!!! Good luck to all of you and feel free to ask me any questions, as I have had every test available and taken numerous supplements and meds. I feel that I am very knowledgable about this condition since I have had it for so many years. Would also like to add that both of my children have inherited this condition.
 
  marnia  Posted: 01/04/2007 15:08
Yes..Sara's right...just back from Italy and was due for a Holter monitor and a BP monitor over two days...BP showed blood pressure was slightly elevated but didn't need anything doing...Holter showed I was having extra and skipped beats and bouts of A.Fib. but while I was on the monitor, I was too busy to notice. I'm going on 66 and feel well after a little glitch back in Oct. '06. My 7yr. old granddaughter has been checked and found to have extra beats...she doesn't notice them and I remember my Mom complaining about palpitations most of her life and she lived to be 78 and would have probably lived a little longer but for complications re her kidneys. Palpitations ( or Atrial Fibs.) seems to be hereditary in our family but on the bright side, so is longevity. Sooo..if you can try to ignore them and get on with things....I KNOW its not easy...been there and do it every day...but if you can find some kind of distraction..and try not to get stressed, it does help.
 
  Mouse  Posted: 02/04/2007 04:22
Does anyone get these skipped/extra beats during a bowel movement? I've had testing done and my palpitations are benign. The other morning I had a few in a row while having a bowel movement that truly frightened me.
 
  John(VRW60487)  Posted: 02/04/2007 07:47
I have just discovered this online discussion topic and have read it with great interest and will probably try some of the dietary supplements mentioned. However I would be very interested in people's feedback and advice. I am a 49yo male and first noticed palpitations while running in my twenties. They didn't occur all the time and was able to observe over time that their incidence would often coincide with having had more coffee than usual so was able to link it to caffiene. By simply reducing coffee they went away. As I got older I realised I had to reduce my caffeine further to avoid having them. But then in my early 40's the palpitations returned but this time they would occur at anytime as well as during exercise. This led me to see a Dr who referred me to a specialist. The tests came up all clear and I was told to get more sleep, reduce my stress and reduce caffeine. This eliminated the palpitations until about a year ago when again they returned but only with exercise. I have eliminated caffiene entirely now but still get them during exercise . It may be that I am more aware of palpitations given my history as the specialist did say that nearly everyone has palpitations but most people just aren't aware of them. The concerning thing for me is when the palpitations returned about a year ago they seemed stronger than before. I have kept exercising and have also noticed that they seem to be often linked to speeding up or slowing down or when I might take an extra long breathe. In the first 5 minutes of exercising they will occur but after I get into a rythym I rarely experience them. Also, I may get them when I stop and take a deep breathe. Has anyone experienced a similar situation and does anyone have an idea on what I should do or try? Should I go back and see a specialist again or try the supplements?
 
  MB  Posted: 03/04/2007 08:08
Hi, I'm so glad I found this as I sit here in the middle of the night with heart palpitations. I've only been having them for the past week and I am sitting here with a 24-hour monitor on that I have to turn in tomorrow. I guess I've officially "joined" the heart palpitators, and it's a scary place to be! Several years ago, maybe in my early 30's, this happened to me, and I cut down on caffeine. Since then I only have 1 cup of coffee in the morning M-F. But I do drink quite a bit of wine at night to relax me from a stressful job. Also, I've been in karate the past 15 years which is a great stress-reliever, but actually the past two weeks I was unable to go. I should add that since I got my black belt I'm in worse shape because I teach more than I train and I've gained weight. BTW, I'm 49. This has been scary, but they hooked me up yesterday morning when I went to urgent care and recorded all these PCV's. They were coming about every 5 minutes for 2 hours, but could be because I was there and stressed. During the day I only get about one or two episodes. But here I am in the middle of the night, after 5 hours sleep and they're starting to come again. I notice especially if I'm lying on my left side, but after awhile just being in rest position does it. I'll be getting results and I think I'm going to insist on seeing a cardiologist. Along with the stress, now I can't sleep because of the palps, not only are they scary but they keep me awake. Any advice on that? Maybe they'll give me medication. And I really want to go back to exercising, I'm sure that must help, but I guess I have to wait. And will I have to give up my wine?
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 04/04/2007 10:11
Well there is finally light at the end of the tunnel and I hope I haven't spoken to soon!!!!!I suffered horrifically as you may have read on my posted 21/03/07.After reading many comments on this site I had read that alot of you tried Magnesium and Aloe Vera caps and they are working!!!!I also went to see a Hypnotherapist that does not put me under but retrains my way of thinking.He said that I look at the Palps as an enemyand makes me except them.FOR EVERYONE OUT THERE THE MORE YOU THINK ABOUT THEM AND i KNOW ITS HARD NOT TOO AS THEY ARE SO SCARY, THE MORE YOU WILL GET THEM!!!For now mine have calmed down and I really hope they will stay that way.Please get them checked out 1st but if the tests come back o.k please try magnesium and Aloe Vera.Don't drink coffee,even decaf and don't drink wine.Read all your medication as some contain caffeine.PALPITATION SUFFERERS COFFEE IS OUR ENEMY!!!!Drink lots of water instead!!I feel for all of you sufferers but it is time to fight back and stop these palpitations in their tracks!!!!LETS ALL FIGHT THEM THE BEST WE CAN AND STOP THEM RUINING OUR LIVES!!Take care everyone.
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 04/04/2007 16:31
MB..Once you start to get more aware of the palpitations the worst they will get.Even without knowing it you are waiting for them to happen and our brain is very clever and knows it!!I get palpitations that go on nearly all day and know how scary they are.Please read my post 4/04/07.Please try not to feel scared because they will only get worse.Hope my post helps!! MOUSE....The same thing happpens to me.Try to relax,breathe and ride over the palpitations.Now it has happened once you will be waiting for it to happen again
 
  Sara  Posted: 04/04/2007 18:09
A comment to everyone, especially newcomers to this sight. Many people have stated they have had to give up coffee and wine. HAVE NO FEAR!!!!! This is not true for everyone. Coffee does not increase my heart irregularities and neither does wine. In fact, a cold beer or a glass of wine decreases my palpatations. So experiment first before giving up these wonderful drinks!!!! Can't imagine life without a cup of coffee in the morning and a cold beer at night!!!!! Good luck to all of my heart buddies!!!
 
  Kitty  Posted: 05/04/2007 10:09
For me it is just port which affects my palps. I could drink coffe in bed, before I fall asleep - no effect. I could have several brandies and have no palps the next day but one small port and and I get severe palps all next day.
 
  MB  Posted: 08/04/2007 11:02
Thanks for the feedback everyone, I appreciate it. I took to heart (no pun intended!) to try not to think about them. I don't have the results of my heart monitor but should this week. This is the first morning in 2 weeks I don't have them, but I just took 3 days off and tried to get good sleep. I did continue to drink some red wine but I cut way back. I may try no caffeine for a bit to see what happens. And I appreciate the advice on the natural ways to try to beat this (again, no pun intended!!!) I have a question for all - this is my first major episode, and like I said, today is the first time in 2 weeks I don't have them. Should I expect to continue to have these on and off? Even if I'm trying to manage them? Oh, by the way, my doctor wanted to put me on anti-anxiety, Xanex, but a family member told me not to take them as she heard they're hard to come off of, etc. So I didn't.
 
  MH  Posted: 11/04/2007 17:05
Back in September I experienced palpitations for the first time, I spent a night in A&E in St. Vincents and they assured me that my heart was ok. I experienced palitations for a number of hours each day and I was totally exhausted. In the meantime I got a my GP to carry out a number of blood tests and a biopsy in January confirmed that I am a coeliac. I have been on a strict gluten free diet since the end of January and haven't experienced palpitations since. I don't know if it's all a coincidence but I feel much much better, my energy levels are much better.
 
  TITO  Posted: 12/04/2007 15:04
Team, i am just reposting my earlier post, it may be of some help , All, ARRYTHMIA AND RELATED PHSYCLOGICAL STATE CAN BE BEATEN. please find below my experience with the palpitations which I do have it has been 4 years. I am not a doctor and have no medical background but I made a deep research about the palpitations to the extend I used to study about them and then go to a cardiologist to whom I paid money simply to discuss with him and check my understanding. I know how much these are annoying and how much they can defocus anyone; I do really understand the mental challenge of ignoring them. IF AND ONLY IF you are given the Ok and the ALL CLEAR from your doctor, so face your mental challenge of ignoring them, they are very common and they happen to everyone and 95% of them is benign and people do not even notice them, I work as manager in a company, so I took a sample of 9 people including myself raging from 28 years old to 43, I asked them to check their pulse, and I found the following: 5 out ot the 9 were having regular pulse with no complain, one was having between 1 to 30 Extrasystole / day depending on how stressed he is and what he ate and he was going crazy about them (43 years old), one was having them all time and simply did not know about them (28 Years old), one was having them when stressed and when tired or when took too much caffeine (37 Years old), and one was having them with exertion and with stress and with digestion issues (30 years old). One friend of mine is having AF in PSVT on exertion since 15 yeas and he just started to take medications. In a study shared on the internet, a sample from the American marines were checked and around 20% of them were having Extrasystoles with a good number per day, Palpitations will come and go throughout your life like any normal person, so ignore them ( If you are given the ALL CLEAR from your CARDIO), of course you need to do some actions to enhance your lifestyle and try to reduce them, but HOWEVER ignore them, it is a matter of choice, do not let them ruin your life, they are like a nasty friend, if you continue focusing on them, they will never leave you in peace and remember ( Worry = Missed Beats = More worry = More missed Beats,….). Again it is a matter of choice, they will happen any way, (Do not ever think that they will disappear completely from your life, HOWEVER they may be tremendously reduced and even vanish for some long times through some regimes that I will discuss later) so if you focus on them, you will loose your life and if you neglect them, you gain your life back and worrying about them will not push them out, actually that makes them more welcomed!! So try to leave your life to the fullest. BUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO HELP OURSELVES? 1- If you are a smoker. STOP SMOKING NOW, Why? Basically for two reasons: A- Short term, The stimulating effect of the cigarette NICOTINE is really strong, do not fool yourself about one or two cigarettes a day, I remember three times in five years one morning cigarette sent me to the ER with Sinus Tacky Cardia up to150 BPM with lots of PAC\'s. So they really have a stimulating effect on the heart muscle very quick. B- Long Term, because one big factor that your palpitations are benign is that you have structurally normal heart, which you will not have if you continue smoking and continue clogging your arteries. If you find it difficult, try the book \"The Easy Way to Stop SMOKING\" by Allen Gar, this helped me a lot 2- Check your stomach (GIT) state, colon issues are very common to induce Palpitations and also the relations between GERD, osophegous inflammation and Palpitations has been strongly established, so take over the counter ALOE Vera Soft Gels ( 2 per day) or get COLONA (Sulpiride + Mebeverine HCL) – after aligning with your GP - Very safe drug introduced since the 70\'s but has great effect on the colon and the palpitations. I did great with me. You can be astonished of the results I did not believe I had any issue with my Colon until I tried. 3- CHECK YOUR BLOOD MAGNESUIM AND CALCUIM AND POTASUIM, if your calcium is high and your Magnesium is low, it is time to introduce some MAG into your system as per the RDA recommendation, ,so get some around 300 mg of MAG ( Gylcinate, Taurate, Sulphate, Oxide) in two doses before eating, this has proven a lot of help to many people. And actually if your calcium is high and Magnesium is normal, take 300 MG also as the blood test for Magnesium is not accurate as 1 to 2 % of the body magnesium is in the blood and the rest is in the cells and remember that it will take you some time to rebalance the Cal/Mag ratio. If you are low on Potassium, try some bananas and you may think of some potassium supplement for one week, it is fast absorbed and fast restored in the blood. Please check these sites: http://www.vitamin-galore.com/Supp/Potassium.htm, http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,890,00.html, http://www.vitamin-galore.com/Supp/Magnesium.htm#Dosage, 4- If you get the palpitations in tough situations and when really stressed like business confrontations or a fight or when sexually excited, so you may think of introducing a mild beta blocker as this is adrenaline related. If you are at low resting heart rate this may aggravate the problems some palpitations are brady cardia induced. Check with your GP or Cardiologist. 5- Co Enzyme Q10, 100 mg a day, I read great reviews about it, I did not try it yet but many people recommend it as a clear advantage has been felt. Check the below site: http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/coq10.htm, 6- EXERCISE EXERCISE EXERCISE, this is A great tool, at least walk vigorously 4 times a week for 30 – 40 mins, you will be astonished of the results, this makes you feel great, gives a better mood, depletes the adrenaline from your body and create a healthier heart. 7- Stay away of the over the counter decongestant, they can induce palpitations 8- HAVE SOME FAITH, if you did all the above and did your best, made the relevant tests, checked with the Cardiologist and followed the above regime, so forget about them, everything is in GOD\'s hand, so why worry if you did your homework?? 9- If you are pregnant, rest assured, Palpitations and pregnancy go hand in hand, most probably your symptoms will disappear once you deliver 10- DO NOT CHECK YOUR PULSE. Measuring your pulse is a constant method of reminding yourself that you have an issue, YOU ARE NORMAL so make an oath with your self not to measure it again, this will help as many times you will not be sure whether the sensation you felt was a missed beat or not. Finally, live your life to the fullest, ENJOY IT. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share my learning\'s and hope I was of some help. TITO
 
  J(Jane2)  Posted: 13/04/2007 00:09
I think for me there are definetly two types of palpitations, the loud banging heartbeat you can hear in your head, particularly when at rest and the flutters, the missed or out of sync beats, the latter in my opinion needs further investigation, the problem being that whilst you may have these palps, when it comes to diagnostic testing if they have abated, all you get are normal values. I think holter monitors need to be worn at home for at least a month, a few days in hospital certainly doesn't suffice because whilst in hospital you are almost always at rest. It may cost more, but in the longterm it may help to prevent damage to the heart and in turn save money on expensive surgery. It is also evident that some people here are experiencing palps at an age when treatment would help prevent problems in later life. Having said that I don't think beta blockers should be prescribed willy nilly and for a longterm, diet changes and relaxation can greatly improve certain forms of palpitations. J
 
  marnia  Posted: 13/04/2007 18:46
TITO..You talk a lot of sense and ta for taking the time to share your research with us..hard to follow some of the ideas but I would say to everyone..after you have had all the tests and been reassured by your cardio..then persevere with trying to ignore them..seems to be a contradiction....but when I recently had the monitor, the results showed I had had a lot more A.Fibs than I was aware of..and still here to tell the tale. I have come to the conclusion that lots of people have them but some people aren't aware they get them and get on with their lives. !!!
 
  Tito  Posted: 15/04/2007 13:08
Marnia, Just building on your point of being not aware of the palpitations, a few days ago, my driver got into a tough confrontation in the street after making a small accident with the car, he was very very nervous and pissed off and could see the adrenaline rushing into his body. After he came into the car, and got little relaxed. I asked him how was he feeling now, his answer was ok but little dizzy, so i checked his pulse and surprisingly it was more than 300 with clear irregularities, i took him to a doctor and after simply the guy was suffering on-off Afibs and he did not even feel abou them before this issue..:)). Another example took place last week also as my cardiologist ( Who is also a friend) felt some palpitations - he is 33 Years old, working too hard in several hospitals, smoker with lots of caffeine - he checked his pulse, he knew he got his first continious attack of A Fib, he simply continued doing what he was doing for 1.5 hours, he went to the hospital, took the medication and came back to normal rythm after 6 hours, this is an extreme example of course but simply to try to put things into their real context. A final example is any employess who works in the same company i work in, he is 36 years old, he used to complain of some dizziness from time to time for the last three years, through out the last episode of minor dizziness he was having, we adviced him of going to the docotr to check, surprisingly the doctor adviced an urgent Hotler, which he has done just the day after, can you imagine that he was suffering more than 10000 PVCs per day and more than 10000 PACs isolated and runs without any notice of him!!!!!! he is doing fine, he works in a physically demanding job and he is doing ok. He is under beta blocker now, and he is much better, yet he is very religious so he decided to forget about them and enjoy his life, and he did..:)) i hope these examples helped..:) Just one final example, when i did my last holter 2 years ago, the doctor gave me an advice of forgetting them , so i was very angry on the guy, he told me that he was having palpitations since he was 29 years, and he asked me to escort him to a room in the hospital, in this room, he introduced me to a patient, 32 years old, suffering from palpiations it has been 4 years at the time, HE WAS SIMPLY CRAZY, he was informed that they are benign, he refused to forget about them, he complelty focused, he became obssessed, he has done several EPSs, tried several ablations, went on all types of drugs, his obssesion turned into sever anxiety and Panic attacks, which led to more palpitations, HE IS A MESS..:) i do not know wether i helped or not but i am sharing all the information i have, regards, TITO
 
  Becky  Posted: 16/04/2007 00:45
I too have had palpitations for many years. I was diagnosed with cardiac sarcoidosis a year ago...was diagnosed with sarcoidosis in 1994 but it went systemic in the summer of 2004. Being of Irish descent put me at a much greater risk for sarcoidosis. I now have an AICD that was implanted in January 2007. For anyone who has sarcoidosis that has any type of cardiac arrythmias, they should be checked out for sarcoid in the heart.
 
  lc  Posted: 03/05/2007 01:10
i am a male aged 20 and when i exercise hard (ie) running after i stop my heart starts to race and i feel a little weak any ideas on this anyone?
 
  janet(HWF61636)  Posted: 04/05/2007 15:35
I have to go back to the doctor next week with an irregular pulse and a high heart beat. Obviously being terrified doesn't help. I use a lot of over the counter decongestant and could this be the problem? Thanks, Janet
 
  Hilde(FAV62008)  Posted: 17/05/2007 14:09
This is a reply for Melissa Posted: 05/04/2007 13:25: My cousin had a problem similar to your description. It was driving her crazy. Tests revealed she was hypothyroid. Think of the changes in your body because of your pregnancy - your thyroid has a big job - have your TSH, T4 and T3 levels checked by your doctor.
 
  Sandy(KBH62421)  Posted: 01/06/2007 02:04
I was so happy to find this website on palpitations. I am 50 years old and have had palpitations (feel like my heart skips). I was evaluated in 2003 and everything was fine. Lately they are back and seem worse - am also perimenopausal and under lots of stress with my husband's recent health issues. They get worse when I worry about them. Talked to my MD today who did an EKG - had one PVC - he is sure that it is stress and hormone related - but is sending me for a re-eval just to be safe. Finding this place to read people's posts has helped me a great deal already - I was surprised at the number of folks that have the same problem. My MD says not to worry - stop taking my pulse!!! (I'm a nurse and sometimes too much knowledge is NOT GOOD! ) Thank you all for your info - it has really helped me a lot!!
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 10/06/2007 04:31
It is so reassuring to find many others who have had same symptons as I have (palpiations, fatigue and dizziness). I am 36 and have only experienced palpitations on a regular basis for the past 6 months. It started back in Feb of this year. I had had the flu, lack of sleep (have two small babies) and was also drinking lots coffee. After about a week of daily palps I went to GP - recommended cut back on coffee and alcohol. I did but the palps continued daily for another 2 weeks. So doc then sent me home w/ a ECG monitor for 24 hours. It came back w/ nothing but he wasn't entirely sure so sent me to cardiologist. The cardiologist interiviewed me extensively. Then we also did stress test, blood work, and ultrasound of heart (fascinating!). All was fine. He suggested that a few things were the factor in my palps; I was slightly anemic, I had lack of fluids and such my electrolytes were off, hormones (just finished weaning my son) and of course the sleep deprevation and excess coffee (about 4 cups daily minimum) and then the stress to boot as I was working and not sleeping and being a mom etc. so - I slowed down, cut down and eventually it all got better... Now it is June although I have not had palps since late march they did just start again this last week; well am not too worried as I know I recently have had lack of sleep as son was sick, so I was drinking lots of coffee and stressed and not eating much etc...So, am going to bed early and not going to drink anymore coffee and try to relax... will keep you posted.
 
  Fingers  Posted: 15/06/2007 13:29
This is an excellent site! Up until a few months ago (with the exception of the odd flutter) I didn't know what palpitations were. Needless to say, at a time of life when a number of circumstances conspired to super stress me (I'm 49 years old, teenage daughters, risk of redundancy, dodgy health - you get the picture) they kicked in with a vengeance. First noticed them when out walking with my wife, missed beats/additional beats, breathlessness, I thought I was about to curl my toes. My local GP (very good) checked me and BP/ ECG were ok, blood tests/chest X ray ok too. The damn things kept me awake at night (a common issue with you guys I know) and as I have to travel with work, I saw a cardiologist for a verdict on whether I was safe to travel. He performed a further ECG, Holter monitor and a stress ECG, confirmed PVC's but otherwise I was fine. The PVC's disappeared when I got areobic on the stress test (around 120BPM) He diagnosed a 'lifestyle change'. The rest was up to me! So 8 weeks on I am still a novice at this game and I am learning by trial and error, but what I have found works for me has already been mentioned by Nick, George, Tito and others: 1. Rest is very very very good...the more sleep I get the less the PVC's bother me full stop. The last few weeks I have slept so much better-start on my back and then to my LHS, works well for me, not my RHS...starts them off. 2. Try not to stress over palpitations (easier said than done I know), it only makes them worse. I tell myself 'you are not going to die!' 3. Try to avoid stressful situations as far as possible (not always easy either!). 4. Come off caffeine totally (herbal teas are ok not green tea). 5. Come off alcohol totally. Don't be fooled by folks saying 'red wine is good for you' it isn't. 6. If you smoke give it up immediately..it can trigger palps and it will kill you be sure. I was an occasional smoker and gave up about 4 years ago, breathing will become a pleasure more than a chore believe me! 6. Very important - regular mild exercise and deep breathing. I walk 3/4 times a week at the moment. I found that swimming (my first love) set them off really bad (couplets?). I won't swim again until I feel that all is under control. 7. Eat well and healthily, fresh veg and fruit every day. Fish? The jury is still out for me on that one, but I have noticed prawns and tuna can set me off...I think....not totally sure yet about that link though. 8. I have GERD/cough which doesn't help and I have found omeprazole tablets do the trick for me. 9. Finally don't be tempted to rush to beta blockers or other medications, go for lifestyle changes first. So here I am(!) and glad for this site, where people really understand just how debilitating this condition can be. I am not out of the woods yet though, I still get some mild palps, particulary if I am walking up slight inclines/hills and my BPM is around 90 (my resting BP is around 60)....very strange. Push hard up to 120BPM and they totally disappear. Saying that they are certainly not as bad as they were. I think the biggest improvement for me has been to get good regular sleep at night. Thanks for your advice Nick and George, I will certainly try the aloe vera soft gels and let you know how I get on. The mangosteen sounds interesting, but I am not sure how to get it! Can you explain inflammation a little more? What exactly is it and how do you know if you have it? What is the mechanism and how do you eliminate it? To all of you fellow sufferers out there, don't give up and trust your consultants....if they say your heart is ok believe them! This modern world with all of its stresses is the culprit, but you can make positive changes that will help. Cheers
 
  Mac  Posted: 18/07/2007 13:05
Hi All, Can anyone help i'm in desperation. Got fillings done in my teeth yesterday and got a local for it and I have had terrible palpitations since then (yesterday morning). Dont feel well with them but I'm nervous to go to dr as I don't want to look like a loon. FYI Im 31 and i get them as a result of caffeine which i no longer take in any form. Thanx a mil
 
  Ellie  Posted: 18/07/2007 14:59
Hi All, I have had the odd palp from time to time but recently (about 3 months ago) my thyriod medication dosage - for my underactive thyroid was doubled. I feel great, my skin is brilliant, my energy levels are soaring and I'm losing weight BUT I get really really annoying palps. My doc says it's a harmless side effect but its irritating me. They are worst at niht and early in the morning. IUt's like a series of fast irregular bears, a sipped beat and the a really load booming beat. This succession of beats can take place for or 5 times in he space of a few minutes, then all is fine for half an hour or an hour and it repeatrs itself. has anyone else experienced this. I'm not worried just a bit exasperated with it.
 
  Fingers  Posted: 19/07/2007 12:35
Hi Mac and Ellie. You both need to get an ECG test and if necessary see a consultant to do this. You may even have to have a 24 hour monitor fitted and also be put through the 'Bruce'protocol which is basically walking on an inclined treadmill with a 12 lead ECG and blood pressure monitor attached. What I am basically saying is your gp may be good (mine was very thorough), but ultimately you should get checked out by a specialist. Once it is confirmed that your palps are ectopic and benign (very annoying and potentially life changing I know though!) follow my points in my last post. Above all rest and exercise are key. Cut the caffeine too. I still get palps but they are decreasing now. The 'missed' beats are classic. I have pvc's (premature ventricular contractions) that originally came on without warning and it feels as though your heart stops for a second...the reality is it has taken an early beat and fills for a slightly longer period and you feel the next beat more powerfully. It can be very worrying I know, which without doubt makes things worse. I wish you both well but above all get yourselves checked out ok? By the way stress is a big factor I'm sure with ectopic beats. Follow the advice given by George and Nick on this discussion and the other discussion entitled 'Heart Palpitations Revisited' Good luck! By the way George and Nick...are you still there? Need advice on Aloe Vera gel! Is it really that good and is it worth me trying it out? F
 
  Ellie  Posted: 19/07/2007 13:45
Thanks very much Fingers. I appreciate the response.
 
  Mac  Posted: 19/07/2007 16:33
Thank you fingers, I will go and get it checked out x
 
  Mags  Posted: 20/07/2007 22:43
I was admitted to hospital 18 months ago suffering from severe tension in my head and a funny sensation in my chest and arm. Had stress test, angiogram and ecg done. The doctors say I have Ventricular Tachardia (V.T) I was put on arrythmia tablets 3 daily by l50mg. Have had a Holter Monitor on three times and the rhythms seem fine. Still on medication but I feel no better as my head as still the tension and I have to take 1mg ativan every morning I think it is all severe anxiety that I am suffering from as I sometimes feel I can't go places or do the things I used to do 2 years ago. If anyone has a similar condition I would love to hear their problem to see if it relates to mine. Or is there an answer to it has my life is a misery every day.
 
  Sandy(KBH62421)  Posted: 24/07/2007 02:53
I had my eval by a cardiologist - have mitral valve prolapse - but since I've cut caffeine and am exercising, my palps have decreased significantly. And it also helps to know that they are nothing to be concerned with- so I don't worry when I get them - and that has also helped them a great deal. I also have gotten palps after the dentist - could be the local anesthetic that causes them. By cutting caffeine, exercising and decreasing stress and worry, I haven't experienced the palps in a few weeks - and before changing things ,I had them daily. This is a great site and I'm very thankful for everyone's comments.
 
  Becky  Posted: 24/07/2007 10:55
Mac and Sandy, I too have had palps with dental work along with facial/neck flushing. Turned out to be the local anesthetic the dr used. Now, he uses a "short acting" local injection that has no epinephrine. No more problems with palps with dental procedures. The med does wear off quicker so sometimes you have to have another injection but you're already numb so it's not bad. I have cardiac sarcoidosis and had a defib/pacer placed in January 2007 so I am very careful. Hope this helps.
 
  Mac  Posted: 24/07/2007 11:02
Sandy, I am so glad to hear you got them at the dentist. I looked up on the internet when I got them to see if that was a common reaction and all it said was that reactions were psychosomatic I was so upset try telling someone they are imaging things when your heart is racing and there is butterflies in your chest! (that is how mine feel to me). I don't take caffieine at all now and it has helped no end, but I still get some every now and then especially with chocolate but I'm not giving that up for nobody. Good luck to everyone and I also found meditation very helpful it sounds very new age but really works
 
  Jen  Posted: 27/07/2007 22:59
Juat an update of my situation. It looks as though my palps are down to autonomic system disorder. Symptons are now palps, sweating, difficulty in swallowing, low blood pressure. Would love to know if there is anyone else in the same boat as I am feeling pretty down about my situation. Can anyone cheer me up. Thanks
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 31/07/2007 17:07
Hi To let you know, Heart palpiations are not something you have to live with forever. I used to get them on a very regular basis until I decided to do something about it 3 years ago. I know that mine started from drinking red bull and have stayed away from it ever since. My condition was diagnosed as supraventriculartachycardia. I was being admitted once a week to my local A & E unit in Galway and so decised to bite the bullet and get it seen to. I had a procedure called an ablation which involved cathethers being inserted into my groin and into veins directed towards my heart. Its not as drastic as it sounds. From there, they cauterised a vessel in my heart to stop the irregular heartbeats (on occasions I was being admitted to the hospital with over 280 / 300 bpm which is very fast if you have been sitting down watching television and doing nothing else). I was in hospital in the Mater for 2 days and off work in total for about 4 / 5 days. I was on medication up until this was done but have never looked back since as its completely gone.
 
  Mac  Posted: 31/07/2007 21:45
Hi Jen, Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, things are never as bad as you think when you are first diagnosed with them you think you'll never have a normal life again but believe me you can. I haven't all your symptoms but I do have v low blood pressure and as long as you are careful getting up from lying and sitting and make sure to ge plenty of sleep you should be fine. As for the sweating try Vit E don't know if it helps in this situation but it can be helpful for men with prostate cancer on hormones who get hot flushes, so you never know. The swallowing I don't know try to eat smaller amounts of food at a time. Things will get better I was diagnosed with Crohn's last year and was ready to shut myself up in the house now I barely think about. Think positive xx
 
  Gerry(TJA64569)  Posted: 02/09/2007 21:24
Hi, I'm a 35yr old female and 4 wks ago I collapsed in the shower and was out cold for a few mins. After coming round I "went" again twice in next 10mins. I hadn't been feeling particularly well and had woken in the night sweating. I do remember feeling dizzy when standing up but then lights out. Went to hospital and ended up staying 8 nights which wasn't fun! They put me on ECG monitor when i got there for 24hrs and they said it showed a 4 min episode of fast heart beat. My blood pressure was also very low. I have since had the camera down to check heart but was ok and am due to get the BP and Holter monitor fitted in 2 days. Since then I have been hearing and feeling my heart beat a lot and I dont know if it's just that I'm ultra aware of it or is it something else. I can't say that it's particularly fast but sometimes it's louder than others. I don't drink alcohol/tea or cofee. Can anyone describe what palpatations feel like?? There would be heart problems in the family and also blood pressure although mainly high. I believe low blood pressure is only a problem if you are fainting/dizzy. This was the first time I collapsed (except a little faint 20yrs ago) but managed to do a lot of damage as smacked my eye/nose of taps on way down!! Don't want it to happen again if I can avoid it. Advice please.
 
  Mac  Posted: 03/09/2007 10:33
Gerry, I'm not sure what it could be. My palpitations have been going on for years though I was unaware at the time and was found by accident. Mine feel like butterflies in my chest like a fluttering and then one really loud beat they are not really that bad unless I drink coffee which is my trigger. I also have very low blood pressure and get very dizzy with them especially if I sit up very quickly so I'm not sure if there is a link there. There is also a very strong family history of heart disease but again my heart was checked and everything was fine. I would consider getting your thyroid checked as well re the night sweats. Sorry I can't be any more help.
 
  TITO  Posted: 09/09/2007 12:22
Gerry Just a small question are you following any special diets? How mUch do you weigh and how tall you are? Any exercising? Did you start exercising soon? regards, Tito
 
  Gerry(TJA64569)  Posted: 10/09/2007 20:30
Hi Tito, no special diets, but to be truthful I could do with eating more fruit/veg etc. (prob like everyone). I am 5ft 8 and wieigh 64kg's which I think is 10stone. Had monitors on last wk and am waiting to be called back for results. I don't really do any regular exercise to speak of but try to go for a walk whenever I can (which with 2 small kids is not as often as I'd like). I haven't been dizzy since but have heard my heart beating few times. Looking forward to hearing what the problem is.
 
  bellybeaner  Posted: 01/10/2007 18:38
I am 22 yrs old and about a year ago I started getting palpitaions I rushed myself to the ER only to get told that everything was fine and that it is common in young women. They happened daily for about a week and went away. Now months later they have started up again still scary as ever and worrying me. I get them what seems to be in the evening when i am sitting or laying down sometimes once a day sometimes I go days without them. I went to my family doctor who sent me for an ECG and bloodwork everything has came back fine and as of now I am waiting for the Cardioligist to contact me for an ultrasound and holter moniter. In this waiting time Iam very concerned and driving myself crazy as I am afraid I am going to die. I recently heard fish oil can help and I started them so far no difference. I was wondering a few things... Is this Normal for my age? Should I worry? IS there something I'm missing that I should be doing about this? I also had a realization that when these originally started happening i was on birth control pills at this time I was also getting dizzy spells and severe headaches I decided to stop my B.C. as I knew it could cause headaches and everything went back to normal and now I have started back up on birth control about 4 months ago and it all seems to be coming back is this all in my head or is it possible that my birth control is causing all this?
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 02/10/2007 10:28
Belly, it is more common among young women and it is an uncommon side effect of BC pills. It might be simply that you need to switch pills or even switch BC methods. Do have your thyroid funtionality checked out as well as this can have a big impact on palpitations.
 
  bellybeaner  Posted: 03/10/2007 02:26
Thank you for your post back I recently got my B.C. pills switched and hopefully will start to notice a difference... i appreciate all the advice I can get thank you so much!!
 
  TITO  Posted: 03/10/2007 11:45
Belly, Even if stopping the BC Pills did not make any difference, forget about them and live you r life to the fullest, do not worry, get the ALL CLEAR from the doctor and forget about it. I would advice you to try Magnesuim supplements too, they make a difference with me specially if i am having PACs ( Atrial palpitations) for a week or so. regards, TIto,
 
  starrynights  Posted: 03/10/2007 16:37
bellybeaner - I was told by a holistic doctor that magnesium is what will stop palps and it works! I use it when I feel some coming on. I've also done some research and have discovered that hormonal fluctuations also cause palps especially in women. You're young but hormones are always changing especially in perimenopausal women. Please go to the Heart Palpitations - Revisted posts..there's tons of great info about aloe and other supplements that really work. God Bless!
 
  Marlene  Posted: 03/10/2007 19:36
I just found this site and am thrilled to see others with this condition. I'm 54 and in Menopause for 4 years. I'm in process of complete physical. I had a holter monitor and other exams done about 10-20 years ago and Drs summized it was mostly an irregular heartbeat (now called arrythmia?). My mom died April 07 and I wasn't having any Palpitations until just the last couple of weeks, mostly when I lay down to sleep. I was born with a heart murmur but have been pretty healthy until just recently. I will ask my current GP about the natural remedies mentioned here. I just decided to start a food/symptom journal this morning and will start cutting out caffeine, sugar etc.. Thanks!
 
  bellybeaner  Posted: 03/10/2007 23:07
Tito and Starrynights I appreciate your advice..I was just having a few palps and coming here and reading your advice and knowing someone cares made me feel the world better. I'm going to look into trying magnesium and living my life to the fullest and not worrying. Thank you!
 
  Sandy(KBH62421)  Posted: 04/10/2007 00:55
Starrynights - I was wondering about the aloe. I have been taking aloe as a supplement but didn't know that it was helpful for palps.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 04/10/2007 09:26
That's true starrynights, hormone changes do affect palps, and starting, changing or stopping the BC pills may well have an effect - as will pregnancy. Tho' of course I know you won't have to worry about being perimenopausal for another 30 years or so, bellybeaner but do see if changing you BC meds will help.
 
  starrynights  Posted: 04/10/2007 16:48
Hi Sandy, If you go to the Heart Palpitations - Revisited message board you will see lots of info regarding the use of Aloe for palps. Check out all the posts by George and Nick. They've done lots of research on the topic and if I'm not mistaken they're now both palp free!!!!
 
  Sally  Posted: 10/10/2007 02:40
What type of Aloe and how much do you use for palpitations
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 31/10/2007 11:34
I just found this website yesterday and I think it is great...I began experiencing my PVCs the day after I had surgery (Feb, 07) and they have been very strong ever since...I have been through every test possible and my cardiologist prescribed me a beta blocker and told me to reduce my stress. I am a single mom of 3 with one in college, one in middle school and one in elem school, full time job in a law office and I am also in school. I am not sure which stress he is talking about :) However, after reading your blogs, I am going to cut down on the sweets and the coffee and try that as well as the PVCs have start to come back as strong as they were. Thanks for all your input.
 
  J.LENNON  Posted: 02/11/2007 13:50
HI IM A 24 YEAR OLD GUY WHO HAS HAD PALPITATIONS FOR A FEW YEARS THERE ON AND OFF BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHY I GET THEM WHEN I GO TO BED LIKE A BIG ONE JUST AS IM DOZING OFF EVERY NIGHT. I have been to specialists and they say I'm OK but it doesn't happen when I am there. Also I can feel the blood pumping in my heart sometimes I have been to specialists and they say I'm OK but it doesn't happen when I am there. Also I can feel the blood pumping in my heart sometimes and I don't think that's right to be able to feel that. ANY ONE ELSE FEEL BEATS A LOT MORE WHEN THEY GO TO BED? OR FEEL THE BLOOD PUMP THROUGH their HEART EVERY NOW AND AGAIN? WOULD APPRECIATE IT
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 02/11/2007 15:42
In response to the last post...I also feel them mostly at night when I am getting ready to fall asleep. Like you, the dr said nothing to worry about and that I probably feel them more because I am more atuned to it as I am relaxing then when I am running around all day busy. I can also feel the blood go from my heart up to my neck and face when I am having them. I have them every day but a little less frequent now that I have been on the beta blocker. I am also going to my primary dr next week for blood work to make sure there is not a vitamin deficiency.
 
  Rhonda(LMS36974)  Posted: 05/11/2007 20:39
Hey Bellybeaner- I know how you are feeling. I'm 27 and when I was 24 years old I began experiencing severe palpitations during the day (the skipped beats and flutters) and would wake up at night with a racing heart. After a few trips to the emergency room and some holter-monitoring, I was diagnosed with PSVT. It's an arrythmia that there is really no known cause for. It's very scary at times but I've managed to survive it the last few years WITHOUT medication! They put me on all sorts of beta and calcium channel blockers, but this only made things worse. They tried to get me to do the ablation as well but I told them I am putting it in God's hands and going to try natural medicine. A word of advice: I think in my case my palps are caused by stress, but also hormones. I noticed when it's 'that time of the month' I get them MUCH more frequently. In fact, I have heard that certain things like the monthly cycle or pregnancy can cause severe palps in women. This makes me think that if you are still taking the birth control pills it may have something to do with it...the pills screw around with your hormone levels. Anyway, best of luck and know you are not alone. If you need to talk to someone you can reach me at rhondamix@yahoo.com!
 
  The 26 year old lady  Posted: 09/11/2007 17:35
I am a 26 yr old female. & been experienceing heat palps for about a year now. First started getting bad about 6 months ago I just started on ADD meds & I thought it was caused by them, so I went off the med. The palps still came & went very spontaneously. Last month I saw had an Echocardiogram, 48 hr holtier & an EKG everything was normal. But recently I noticed having a harder time sleeping b/c my heat rate was rising. I noticed my heart rate was around 100 most of the day. I also noticed a significant increase in my heat palps, usally at night time. Yesterday I had the scariest episod of heart palps. I had 3 big ones in the span of 30 min & each one I thought I would pass out. I work @ a nursing home & had the nurse take my BP it was in the 160's & my pulse was 127!!!Of course by the time I got to my GP it the symptons had ended. She gave me another EKG & it was normal except for a higher heart rate. She wrote me a prescripton of Atenolol 25mg. I am crossing my fingers & hopping it works. B/C heart palpations are scary. PS. I just discovered this website today & love it. It is nice to know that I'm not the only one having these symptoms. Good luck to All
 
  Prunch  Posted: 11/11/2007 15:48
I am reading with interest most of the comments made on Palpitations. When i was 16 I got an attack of Palpitations.I had never even heard of the word being so young.My doctor at the time stupidly put it down to anxiety and prescribed Roche 20 tablets for me. I was pretty wise and flushed them down the toilet,thank god. I am now 44 and have had the palpitations all my life.Only recently i was prescribed Tambacor and Lanoxin. I feel there are side effects to taking these as I feel like i've put on weight and don't feel the best at times.Can anyone relate to what i'm saying?I suppose my point is Doctors don't always get it right,but like the clergy of this country we as a nation were always led to believe these people could do no harm.
 
  Reginia  Posted: 12/11/2007 13:01
This is in response to Prunch....I was taking Toporol which made me gain weight very quickly. My doctor switched me to Aetenol 50mg 1 x per day and I have gained some weight but not as much as when I was on the other...Also, like the other folks, I have cut out most of my caffeine and am trying hard to cut out the sugars...I want to try the Aloe but am waiting on my latest blood work to come back before starting anything. I just find it very weird that all of this started right after I had surgery in February but never happened before that. I am not sure where you live but I live in Florida, United States and work for a law firm. We too are taught drs do no wrong but working in the malpractice field, I guarantee you that they do and more often than people realize.
 
  Prunch  Posted: 12/11/2007 18:06
Thanks for your comments Regina.I live in Cork City,Ireland (hence the clergy and doctors comments)I have had a run of ill health ever since i had those first attack.You mention Aloe,i'm wondering is this an alternative treatment?
 
  Reginia  Posted: 13/11/2007 12:45
Prunch - Ireland, only a few miles from Florida huh? :) I read about the Aloe on this site. I think it was from "Nick". He seemed to have done his research. It is funny as I have the PVC's wherein my heart skips a beat and my brother has the condition where his heart goes too fast (152 bpm). I have slowed down a little in my life, watching the caffeine and the sugar and hopefully will start feeling better soon. It makes me a little nervous though as I am hitting the big 40 this year and it seems that I am falling apart.
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 13/11/2007 16:53
Help me please I can't take it any more I am at my wits ends.I have been a palpitation sufferer for years. I suffer from anxiety but I am turning to alcohol to give me some relief. I am on magnesium,aloe vera tabs and primrose. I look after my diet. I am not overweight, I did cut out alcohol,caffeine and nothing helps.I can't deal with it any more they drive me crazy. My heart skips a beat then thuds back into normality I feel like screaming. It goes on all day.I now drink to try and forget about them.I feel they will kill me!!Doctors ignore me!!How long do I have to suffer!!
 
  Nicole  Posted: 19/11/2007 03:24
Hi I am very glad I found this site. I hope it's ok I post on this site even though I'm from the U.S. I'm about to have my 2nd appt. with a Cardiologist. I have always had a palpitation here and there but a few months ago I had about 5-6 a day for a couple of days. Had an EKG, Heart Ultrasound thing (forgot the name) a 24 hour holter monitor which picked up one palpitation and I had blood work. I was told I was fine. They went away for a while until last week when I started getting palpitations like 20-30 times a day somedays. I'm still having them and now having major panic attacks with them. I don't even want to go anywhere because I'm so scared. I feel the palpitations in my neck and throat even. I wish I didn't have to wait a week to see the Dr. I want to know what the heck is going on with me now. It's frusterating and scary. Plus I started a new job and I'm having palpitations at work. Thanks for any info.
 
  julie(AKF44258)  Posted: 22/11/2007 09:41
Hi Pollyanne you sound just like I did 18months ago I thought my time was up I had the skipped beats all day for 1 hour intervals then a gap then they were back again. After several GP visits after heart monitoring etc {they never happened at the GP surgery of course} I ended up on 25mg of Atenelol a day and I can honestly say they seem to have done the trick, I rarely get them now but occaisionaly theycome back usually about once a month when I take an extra atenelol to calm them{withGPs approval]. I havetried weaning myself off them but the missed beats seem to come back at the moment Ive reduced them to one every other day to see how I get on. I also takt one magnesium tablet per day as recommended by fellow sufferers on this site, You dont say how old you are I am a 54 year old woman and Im sure this is all connected with the menopausewhen I asked my Gp about this he just brushed it off but after researchingon the web Ifound lots of women suffer heart palps missed beats etc during the menopause. Anyway 18 months later Im still here I dont worry about them too much anymore and during this time Ive found out that lots of friends etc have suffered at some time its surprisingly common. Do see you Doctor and get checked out and I hope your not feeling so scared now regards Julie
 
  Nicole  Posted: 22/11/2007 23:11
Does anyone exercise with the palpitations? I am wondering if it is ok to still work out. Thanks.
 
  TITO  Posted: 24/11/2007 14:01
To Nicole, I have came to several posts where people are excersising with the palpitations, some of them actually claim that they keep excercising till the PALPS go away, As far as i am concerned, i get a few while excercising and i get the most when i finish, checking with my cardiologist, he informed that i can excercise but i should make sure that i warm myself gradually, so if i will Jog, i have to walk first then speed a little for 5 mins before i start jogging and then when i finish, i should also finish gradually for another 5 mins, to be honest, this helped a lot. As far as you are concerned, i think you should do a stress test beforegoing ahead, this test is where they put on a trademill with the wiring on your chest monitoring your heart response to excercise, after this test, if you are given the all OK from your cardiologist, simply do not worry and live your life to the fullest, do not be afraid, many people more than you think are having Palpitations, it is more common than you think. In our national football team ( Egypt) one player actually is always on atrial palpitations. regards, TITO
 
  bellybeaner  Posted: 28/11/2007 20:26
Hello again!! Well after three months of palpitations I FINALLY got in to my Cardioligist... I ran a stress test and had and ECG test done! Everything from there came back good! However I was sent home wearing a "Loop" Moniter I must wear this thing for ONE WEEK which seems unbearingly long for a worry wart! This moniter is monitering every time my heart does something abnormal! And sadly every time it does I can see it on the small moniter as it starts at ten and will count down every time there is a irregular beat! I just got this yesterday and today I am already down to 8! I find this machine is making me very anxious and constantly looking at it to see if my heart has done something. I know I wanted to be checked out and given the ok but this thing is driving me crazy and I'm only on day one! Can someone that has had this done please give me advice on this and if I should just quit it or how to relax with it on!! Thank you!
 
  Prunch  Posted: 29/11/2007 01:34
In answer to bellybeaner.I wore one of those monitors and didn't really have much of a problem,but then again i don't have housework to do or kids to collect,so mabye it was different because i relaxed a lot as often as i could.Only when i was walking i used to turn it on to record my beats.At night i would record my relaxing beats for about an hour or so.This way it wasn't in my face all day.I mean if i broke out in a sweat or something the damn thing would go loop the loop.Personally i think one day should be enough to wear the thing.You are right it is a nusance.Isn't it about time they came up with maybe a device that straps onto your hand like a watch?
 
  Rita(WJQ66861)  Posted: 29/11/2007 10:34
Hi everyone, I am concerned for my sister. She is 14years old and has constant build up of wind in her stomach, which causes her heart to beat fast and then leads to her having a panic attack. I was with her last night when she had one. Her face went white, and her eye lids seemed to turn a pale purpleish colour. She has seen many doctors who say she is swallowing air, which leads to the build up of wind. Can anyone give me advice on this please?
 
  Polly Anne  Posted: 02/12/2007 22:34
Hi Julie thank you for taking time to respond to my notice.It was really nice to have have some reassurance. My tablets seem to have started helping(I take magnesium, Aloe vera tabs and primrose.) Suffering from palpitation and panic attacks since I was in my early teens, has taught me that the more you take notice of them, the worst they get but it's easier said than done sometimes.I have also stopped drinking so much, as I found that it was only a short lived solution, as during the night my palps would be aggravated by the alcohol!!
 
  Reginia  Posted: 03/12/2007 12:29
Has anyone taken a beta blocker and taken the aloe vera gel caps? I have a call into my cardiologist to make sure that it is ok to take them together but I was just checking with you guys also. Thanks
 
  The 26 year old lady  Posted: 03/12/2007 13:51
Regina, I'm not sure, I take Atentol 50mg in the morning & 25 mg at night. I asked my doctor if there is anything I should avoid or stay away from and she said no. Just out of curiosity what beta blocker are you taking.?
 
  Reginia  Posted: 03/12/2007 16:53
Atenol but only 50mg at night. It seems to have slowed them down but I wanted to try the Aloe gels like I have been reading on this website about it. I will place a call to the dr today and see if I can get some sort of answer. Thanks for responding.
 
  The 26 year old lady  Posted: 05/12/2007 03:33
Has anybody who takes beta blockers noticed themselves almost getting immune to the meds? I have only been on the meds for about a month. At first I was prescribed 25mg dose. For the first few days I didn't get any palps. Then I noticed a palp, but usually only lasted a beat maybe 2. Next I noticed I would get those palps more often and then it increased to regualr palps that lasted more than 3-4 beats. Last week my dr. upped my beta blocker to 50 mg. x1 in the morning & 25 mg x1 at night. The first couple of days I didn't get any again, now I noticed I getting the occasional palp. I was very relieved when my Dr. prescribed these meds because I thought it would be a reasonable end to my palps (& i could have my life back) but now I'm not so sure.
 
  Russell  Posted: 08/12/2007 17:03
I just wanted to thank everybody who took the time to post here. I felt so much better knowing I was not alone. I was in and out of the ER here in the US for my palpitations. I do not have health insurance so I can not go see specialist about my heart. I have to just hope that I am in the 95% of the benign palpitation category. Anyway, I just wanted to let you all know that after YEARS of feeling like I was about to die at any moment because of my palpitations, I have now gone nearly a month with hardly a flutter. Aloe is what has helped me. 25 mg of aloe softgels that I got over the counter at wal-mart almost immediately stopped ALL of my palpitations. I owe this all to you guys. I was so tired of the ER doctors looking at me like I was crazy and accusing me of having anxiety. I feel like I can really get my life back on track now. I have felt so bad for so long and my life has really suffered from the constant fear that I could collapse or die at any moment. Thank you all so much =)
 
  monique  Posted: 08/12/2007 22:10
i was put on a beta blocker, toprol xl; the doc started me at 50mg daily, he gradually increased the dose to 150mg over a period of about 2 weeks. it seemed to be helpful initially, i get thousands of PVCs and hundreds of PACs daily, but over the long haul i think my body just got used to the toprol and it became ineffective. i've gradually weaned myself off it completely just a couple of days ago and i actually feel a bit better. beta blockers can slow the heart rate, so be careful about that. my pulse got dangerously low at one point.
 
  Nicole  Posted: 09/12/2007 02:29
TITO thanks for responding to my post. I'm holding off on my exercise until I get test results from my cardiologist. He seems to think my palpitations are hormone related...I never even heard of that. Anyways whatever is causing them it's annoying as heck. Do you take anything for yours? Thanks again.
 
  starrynights  Posted: 10/12/2007 17:11
Nicole-Don't know your age but hormones have lots to do with heart palpitations especially if you're perimenopausal. If you do a search for perimenopausal heart palpitations you'll get tons of info and chat boards. One of the best I've found is www.power-surge.com Hope this helps!! When I found all this info it sure made me feel better!
 
  Nicole  Posted: 11/12/2007 01:13
To STARRYNIGHT Hi thanks for the information and the site you recommended. I'm 36 about to be 37. I guess it could be the hormonal thing. I definitely notice increase palpitations when PMS'ing. I'm wondering if I need another blood test to check my hormone levels. I may have to look into that.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 11/12/2007 08:48
Yep, hormons can have an effect. But only really need to worry about that aspect if you are taking the oral contraceptive pill (in which case changing your type of pill, fertility treatment (especially relevant) or if you have reached the age of menopause (around 52 - 56 U.K). If it's the latter an you have other accompanying menopausal symptoms, it may be worth your while getting your hormone levelas tested and seeing if you are a suitable candidate for replacement therapy. Otherwise, do get your hormone levels tested to see if you need supplementation.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 11/12/2007 12:25
At 36 about to be 37 you'd definitely not be approaching natural menopause. However if your family have a history of premature menopause of if you have had your ovaries removed (due to cancer, severe cysts, endo for example) and you are contra-indicated for replacement therapy, do have your hormone levels checked. But if you are still PMS'ing (and having periods) then the likelihood of you approaching menopause (in the next 10 - 15 years anyway) is remote - without obvious medical cause. It is vitally important however that you have your thyroid hormone levels checked, especially as you get older and if you have had a baby in the last year.
 
  starrynights  Posted: 11/12/2007 22:51
Nicole, Hormonal level checks can be costly (at least here in the US)and I'm not sure if all insurances cover the testing. Surprisingly, changes in hormones can start taking place even in your 20's but obviously become more noticeable as you approach the time prior to menopause which is the perimenopause phase - yuk! Anyway, the main website I referred you too has women of all ages experiencing these awful palpitations more than likely due to hormones (after of course being checked by their cardiologists). I'm sure being on the pill would affect hormonal levels as well. Not sure if you're into natural supplements, etc., instead of meds to control hormonal changes and palps, but there's lots of great stuff you can take to control both without the side effects of Rx meds. I suffered from palps for the longest time and am almost palp free after doing a little research on hormones, etc. Hope this helps :)
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 12/12/2007 10:50
Hi Nicole, didn't realise you were U.S. based - sorry. Checking of hormone levels (not just female hormones) can be done by a GP here (they have them sent to a lab of course) and only in complex cases need referral to an Endo. Not sure about Health Insurance in U.S.
 
  Nicole  Posted: 13/12/2007 01:06
Hi and thank you to everyone who has posted! This heart palpitation ordeal is frustrating. I did have my thyroid checked when they did blood tests (I'm guessing the thyroid test is the TSH on my results) and that came back normal. My heart ultrasound came back normal, my holter monitor picked up one palpitation and they said it was nothing to worry about. I'm fixing to start using my event monitor starting tomorrow. Hopefully I can get to the bottom of this thing.
 
  Nick  Posted: 13/12/2007 08:08
Hi all, It has been a long time since I posted. It is so nice to see your posts again. I miss you all. I wanted to let you know that I remain palp free... though I know what to do to bring them on! Most importantly, I know what to do to shut them off. I now understand what triggers them and how to avoid this. I've been corresponding with a fellow in Egypt, a guy in Australia, two ladies from the USA and a fellow in France. They all share our dilemma. And all of them are taking steps to eliminate the issue. I continue to welcome any emails to me on this topic. I have posted much of the solution, along with George. If you want to get into the finer details, then we need to discuss in more depth. Email me or visit me at my discussion site located at triple dubya dot lucidboomer dot com. Or email me at nick at lucidboomer dot com. All the best to all of you. Nick.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 13/12/2007 11:56
The thyroid checks should include measuring T4 and free T3 also as well as Thyroid Stimulating Hormone in order to get a true picture of thyroid function.
 
  Reginia  Posted: 21/12/2007 12:55
Has anyone experienced additional palps after taking the Aloe? I started taking it on Monday and today is Friday and I seem to have more palps than I did before I started taking the Aloe. Also, to all my fellow "palps"have a wonderful and safe holiday season.
 
  Nick  Posted: 21/12/2007 16:16
Reginia, Have you seen a doctor about your palps? When you say you took "Aloe" .. you don't specify whether it was Aloe juice or Aloe Gel. There is a HUGE difference. For one - Aloe Gel starts digestive processes that could lead to diarrhea. In some people it is the digestive processes producing excessive fermentation that puts pressure on the pericardium... resulting in palps. More gas would be a bad thing. Gel, has a calming affect on the stomach. Also, can you describe the pattern of your palps? When do they typically come? At night? After work pressure increases? ie... When several jobs get piled on you at once? How fit are you? How long do the palps last? What is your blood pressure? How long have you had palps? Nick
 
  Becky  Posted: 01/01/2008 05:18
I have cardiac sarcoidosis. Does anyone else here have this disease? I have palpitations, etc., with this. I do have increased palps sometimes with even the urge to have a BM or if gassy (sorry...I know that sounds gross). Reading the posts on this site over the months has helped me a lot. I know my condition is different but it is still good to read how others cope. I have an AICD that was implanted in Jan 2007. Happy New Year and Blessings to all.
 
  Prunch  Posted: 01/01/2008 19:58
I'm wondering if anyone can explain this.After I pass a stool,i begin to get hot and sweaty which eventually leads to Palpitations and tiredness and fatigue.Does anyone else know what i mean and can it be explained?What should I take to help it?This has been going on for years yet doctors don't seem to have a clue what I'm talking about.
 
  Reginia  Posted: 02/01/2008 00:48
Nick: Thanks for responding. I have had my heart checked out throughly. I have a sonogram, EKG, I have worn the halter monitor, I have been hospitalized in the cardiac unit, I have undergone stress test with and without contrast and all they say is PVCs. I am 40 years old. My palps started a couple of days after my hysterectomy in Feb, 06. They said I probably had them prior to the surgery but the stress of the surgery just started making me feel them. I am now on a beta blocker (Atenol 50mg a day). They have seemed to get be getting better but I wanted to try the Aloe. It was Aloe gel caps. I have stopped taking them now and the palps have gone away again (of course, still taking the beta blocker). Let me know if you know of anything else I can try. If not, I will stay on the beta blocker as it seems to be helping me at this time. Thanks...
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 02/01/2008 11:18
Regina, whrn you mentioned having a hysterectomy, this struck a chord with me. Dpo check with your doctor that you didn;t have your ovaries removed also as this well catapult you into early menopause. I don't wish to pry but I know that if the hyst was for any form of cancer or endo, for example it may have affected your ovaries also and hence the need for their removal. If this was the case, this may be the reason for your palps.
 
  Reginia  Posted: 02/01/2008 18:50
No, ovaries still in tact. The made me also remember, I have had hormone tests to make sure that my hormones did not get off balance by the surgery.
 
  Nick  Posted: 03/01/2008 16:06
Don't over look the Aloe Gel factor! I suspect it is still related to internal inflammation. Doctors just don't seem to get this. Not sure why, but they are much interested in inflammation reduction... at least here in North America. They are more likely to remove parts and feed you chemicals that treat the issue. It's cheap and harmless. Try Aloe Gel for a few weeks. My bet is your palps will subside. Now that is not to say ignore your doctor. If he/she has evidence of other issues, then that is a whole new game. But I stress ... Evidence! Nick..
 
  Nicole  Posted: 28/01/2008 22:41
Are palpitations the same as PVC'S? My doctor said I have premature or extra beats and prescribed me a beta blocker. I am wondering if I need more extensive tests. I have had ekg, echocardiogram, holter monitor, event monitor, blood test (they did check tsh but not sure about the t3 ot t4 for thyroid). Do I need to push a stress test? Also I do see a pattern of getting these PVC's right around my "girl cycle" so I am going to talk to my ob/gyn about hormone testing. I'm sort of wanting to hold off on filling my prescription of Toprol xl 25 mg. I'm at my wits end with this thing and tired of being scared and thinking I'm going to drop and die from this. Apparently PVC's can throw the heart into a fatal rhythm according to the web. Does anyone else get these like 10-20 times in a row??? Thanks for any information.
 
  Skippy Heart  Posted: 29/01/2008 13:00
Nicole, The beats in a row are probably busts of re-entrant supraventricular tachycardia. I‘ve had skip beats and my first 2 episodes of supraventricular tachycardia in my teens where my heart was beating very fast for periods greater than 10 minutes. It all went away and now after 20 years they have returned. I get premature contractions (skip beats) and on occasions re-entrant tachycardia usually after rigorous exercise. I have visited a number of cardiologists and I was put on 24 hour holter monitor and done the exercise test several times. I got the same answer every time. They are caused by anxiety and are harmless. Doctors suggested me to continue exercising which I do. I don’t normally get any during the activity but I get some after. Doctors explained it as follows, ‘the heart after the exercise tries to slow down that’s why you get the intermittent skip beats …again that’s normal and nothing to worry’. I‘ve tried aloe vera but I don’t know whether it helped at all. I am also taking at night before going to bed half a lemon juice mixed with a table spoon of honey in warm water. They say it helps with palpitations. Again I can’t express my opinion because I still get them. My main problem perhaps is stress and when I feel relaxing I don’t get any. Perhaps that’s the only solution to get rid of the stress but I don’t know how. Keep strong all of you
 
  Nick  Posted: 29/01/2008 16:36
Hi Nicole - When you say that you tried Aloe Vera... you don't specify whether it was aloe juice or aloe gel. There is a huge difference between the two and many people mix them up. Only the Gel will be effective for you. Nick
 
  Jess  Posted: 31/01/2008 01:00
I need some help on heart pal.
 
  Mel1224  Posted: 07/02/2008 22:21
I live in the USA, but wanted to share some info about heart palpitations - PVCs that I have had for years. My doctor finally put me on Toprol xl .25 and within a week or two the palpitations were almost non-existant. Recently I have been switched to the generic of Toprol and gradually my heart palpitations have returned. I have approximately 200 - 300 PVCs per day again. I read that other people who have been switched to the generic drug experienced the same problems. I have now switched back to the original Toprol XL and within a week my PVCs have reduced to approx 10 - 15 per day. I expect them all to subside within another week. I spent many years with PVCs and don't want to be back there again. I thought it was important to share this information with anyone who may be going through the same thing I did.
 
  Heart Palp Remedies  Posted: 08/02/2008 02:26
Those who experience palpitations may have the feeling that their heart stops beating for a moment, and then starts again with a "thump" or a "bang". Usually this feeling is actually caused by an extra beat (premature beat or extrasystole) that happens earlier than the next normal beat, and results in a pause (called a Compensatory Pause) until the next normal beat comes through. People are not usually aware of the early, extra beat, but may be aware of the pause, which follows it (the heart seems to stop). The beat after the pause is more forceful than normal (due to filling with more blood than usual during the Compensatory Pause), giving the "thumping" sensation.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 08/02/2008 10:06
Thanks Remedies, that;s useful information but what actually causes them?
 
  Nicole  Posted: 12/02/2008 03:00
Mel1224 did the Toprol XL give you any side effects? My Dr. prescribed this for me a few weeks ago but I'm to scared to take it. He said it was a low dose (25mg) but I'm getting tired of having PVC's multiple times a day. I was reading that toprol isn't a medicine you can just quit. Can you share your experience with PVC's? I'm trying to understand this ordeal without freaking out to much. I feel like I'm going a little nutty over this and not getting a whole lot of answers from Dr.'s. Thanks!
 
  Nicole  Posted: 12/02/2008 03:06
SKIPPY HEART thank you for your post. I wonder why my Dr. doesn't tell me this stuff. I get more info from these posts than the Dr.'s office. So PVC's and Palps are the same thing? I think I have something called bigeminy (?) I read that online and it sounded like the same symptoms I had.
 
  Skippy heart  Posted: 12/02/2008 11:29
Nicole and all, I have experienced bigeminy where my heart alternates one "normal" beat with one "premature" beat. I also have experienced trigeminy where one "premature" beat followed by two "normal" beats. In every occurrence went on for a few minutes then stopped and started again until eased down. It's a very scary situation I have mentioned it to many cardiologists and I got the same reply. The answer was "Don't be afraid of bigeminy and trigeminy, there is no serious concern in the absence of other cardiovascular disease." One of my cardiologist has prescribed me a small dose of bishoprosol 2.5mg a beta blocker which calms you down and helps with palpitations. I have taken it for a few months, which helped me a bit at the beginning but after a while I felt that didn't make any difference. I assume that my body got used to it. I went to my cardiologist who prescribed it and asked him to stop it and he agreed. I stopped by halving it to 1.25mg for a week and thereafter I stopped completely. I still carry it in my pocked if I have a long attack or a very stressful situation which cause palpitations I take one, and also have some in my drawer at home just in case. Other cardiologists suggested me that I should never have taken that medication as they regard I am too young to take these type of things. They have different opinions but is common in medicine and generally in sciences. I am not taking any medication at the moment and I exercise almost daily. Overall I feel better but don't know why, still get a few PVC a day, however not as many as I used to. I am taking aloe vera daily and every night I drink half of lemon juice and a teaspoon of honey mixed in warm water. I don't know if these kinds of remedies have helped me or not. keep strong
 
  Mel1224  Posted: 12/02/2008 21:57
Nicole - I also am taking Toprol XL (25mg) and have had minimal side effects. Really the only one to slightly complain about is feeling tired or sleepy. But it's not all the time and I still work an eight hour job, have evening classes and enjoy life. So not to fear the Toprol. What made my life unmanageable was the on-going heart palitations (PVCs). I sometimes have a "break-thru" PVC on Toprol, but usually it's around the "hormonal time" for me. Toprol has also controlled my (SVTs). I used to get runs of SVTs with heartbeats of 248 beats a minute. I know it's all to do with the electrical part of the heart and extra pathway in the heart, but I'm glad there is a medicine out there that helps control both the PVCs and SVTs. My life is MUCH MORE manageable now! Believe me, I know where you are when you say you feel a little nutty and sometimes discounted by doctors. Don't let that get you down, I once thought I was in a hopeless situation with these PVCs and now thanks to Toprol XL and God, I am so much better. Good Luck!
 
  julie(AKF44258)  Posted: 18/02/2008 09:46
Hi Mel how do you know you have been changed to a generic drug and whats the difference? I've been on a beta blocker for a couple of years as this works best for me
 
  Mel1224  Posted: 18/02/2008 18:41
Julie, My PVCs (heart palpitations) were being controlled with the Toprol XL 25mg. It wasn't until I started taking the generic of Toprol (Metoprolol Succ ER 25 Mg) did I have problems of PVCs happening again. They (the PVCs) started slowly coming back after being on the generic drug for a few weeks to a couple of months. And I finally put it together that it must be the generic Toprol that was allowing the PVCs back again. I quit taking the generic drug and started back on the Toprol and am now almost 100% free from the PVCs. The pharmacist is the one who changed me over to the generic drug and my primary doctor said to switch back to the Toprol and see if my heart palpitations didn't stop. Thank God the heart palpitations are almost totally gone now. I hope that helps you.
 
  Nicole  Posted: 21/02/2008 02:34
Thanks MEL and Skippy Heart for the posts. I still haven't filled my Toprol Rx yet. I'm wondering if anything will happen if I don't fill it or take it. The doctor gave it to me to treat the symptoms of my PVC's I know it won't cure it. Did these start happening all of a sudden for anyone else? I noticed one here and there most of my life but nothing like what I have now which could range from 5 one day to a hundred. The Dr. said he doesn't know why they started all of a sudden either. I also find if these happen to many times in a row I get panicky and have a panic attack. It's hard for me to believe these are benign when they scare the heck out of me.
 
  Prunch  Posted: 21/02/2008 13:03
Hi Nicole,i started having palpatations at age 18,I am now 44.Initially I used to get panic attacks,which eventually left me Agrophobic for a while until I purchased a Book by Dr Claire Weeks called Self help for your nerves.It's an amazing book which helps you understand what is going on and how to just be calm and float through the panic.I still get the palps but am much able to handel them nowadays.You should certainly get that book,it will help you guranteed.
 
  Nicole  Posted: 22/02/2008 02:48
Hi Prunch thanks for your post. I can definitely see how these PVC's can make one agrophobic. Do you have several PVC's a day? I figured if I didn't have the PVC's I wouldn't be getting panic attacks. Can you share your PVC experience and what you do for them? Thanks!
 
  gal  Posted: 05/03/2008 08:12
hi everyone, thanks for sharing it makes me feel better to know i am not the only one.
 
  Prunch  Posted: 05/03/2008 13:25
In answer to Nicoles question(and apolagies for taking so long in doing so)I take Tambacor 100ml twice a day and also Digoxin once a day.I must control my weight also as when your heart is under pressure carrying more weight than usual,sometimes a palpatation can merely be a reaction to carrying too much weight and nothing more.I feel with this complaint we can panic for the least thing.It's important to learn to relax,do some meditation,yoga, or anything that will help you to relax.Dr Andrew Weil has a great cd out on Breathing exercises which has helped.I have Hemachromatosis also which hasn't helped my situation,so I'm doing a good balancing act Nicole.To be honest,i'm not sure if the Tambacor and Digoxin are that effective.I have little faith in pharmacutical drugs,because I read that for all these multi national drug companies we are merely guinea pigs anyway.
 
  SFFAR  Posted: 31/03/2008 14:07
Hello, all. I have been having SVTs off and on for the past 7 years. I had one when I was 21 yrs old and that was it until I was 30 yrs old. Off an on after that. With 2006 being a most productive year of a grand total of 4 trips to the hospital for drugs to normalize the rhythm. By accident I found out that soy is a major cause of my problems. By staying off soy (and its weirdly named counterparts listed on food labels), I've managed to stay out of the hospital. Also, I get the 'feeling' of having a bout around my hormonal time of the month. So I lay off coffee for a week or two until all is over. I still have a 'feeling' once in a while so there is something still making my electricals go crazy. I am glad to see I am not alone and, best of all, I am not nuts! Take care. I'll be reading and posting when I find out something new.
 
  Nick  Posted: 31/03/2008 16:42
SFFAR, You describe classical symptoms of what happens when our digestive tracts experience a diminished capacity to handle certain foods. The fermentation creates gas that puts pressure on your internal organs. Soy is famous for that. You might also try consuming ALOE GEL periodically. An ounce even once a day would help. Also, check out Udo's Ultimate Enzymes. I've recently added them to my regime. Over the past five years I beat this thing too but did occasionally feel the precursors to palps. The enzymes, as the website explains, help to fulfill the digestive process completely. As a side benefit, I did notice that my belly was much flatter. I really had a good feeling after starting them. I take one digestive enzyme caplet with each meal. Nick
 
  Mel1224  Posted: 31/03/2008 16:47
Dear SFFAR, I have had SVTs my whole life until finally the drug Toprol XL 25mg controlled them for me. In 2003 I was going to the hospital at least once a month for SVTs (heart beat avg 248 beats per minute). The doctors say it's the electrical problems in the heart and if medicine doesn't control it then they would need to cauterize the pathway in the heart. So, it's been five years and only once have I had a bout with the SVTs. I think though it was my problem because I was trying to quit smoking and used too many types of nicotine controls which induced my SVTs. I still have PVCs on and off, but normally it's due to my hormone changes. Toprol also is great at controlling the PVCs too. Good luck. Mel
 
  SFFAR  Posted: 01/04/2008 15:26
Dear Nick and Mel1224, Thanks for the info. I ate so much soy in one day I was actually poisoning myself. Being I am getting to that 'time of life' when things change, I thought it would be good to eat more, because 'studies' said so. What I didn't realize was that soy is in EVERYTHING and I was overdoing it. I tried the enzymes once and thought my stomach was going to burn, but it didn't. I think it may be worth giving the enzymes a go for a while. I tried the beta blockers for two pills and I got so weirded out by the sensation of them I had to stop. I don't take any kind of pills. I try to eat all the foods I can to get the nutrients I need. I know hormones are playing a big part in this whole thing. Yesterday I had the 'feeling' and had an attack in the early morning. It was short, but I hate them. Today, I don't feel the 'feeling' and I am pretty stable. If anyone knows of another trigger food, please let me know. I think it may be food additives. But, being there are at least 40,000 added to processed foods and the pesticides on fruits and veggies, I think I'm looking at a really high grocery bill to go organic. Take care.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 01/04/2008 16:20
SFFAR - If you reckon your SVT's are due to hormonal changes brought on by the meno[puas,e it would be a very good idea to have these confirmed by either your gynae or your endo, and have them treated. You many be suitable for hormonal substitutes to help even out the fluctuations and thus help the palps.
 
  SFFAR  Posted: 02/04/2008 03:58
Dear Anonymous, Going there next week. Actually it's my GP who will do the gynie thing. He is very interested in what is happening to me with the palps. He is also very open-minded in helping with treatment regarding alternative methods. I should have no problems with getting some kind of treatment or getting him to listen to me. The last time I went to him, they took tests for pre-menopause stuff and nothing showed up. I bet it does now. Luckily, I also have a cardio doctor who says I'm on the right track with keeping away from soy. (BTW, SFFAR means Soy-Free For A Reason, which is the name of my blog that I don't tend to too often.) He also has a food allergy so he knows what can happen. This is helping me stay away from the ablution I'd otherwise have to take. What Nick said about the digestive enzymes made me think today...when I get a bit of stomach gas I feel a fluttering. When I make myself burp I feel better. I'm starting the enzymes again tomorrow just to see. Wish me luck. Take care.
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 02/04/2008 14:47
I have had great success with Magnesium, Aloe Vera, digestive enzymes and exercise. I limit processed foods as much as possible, and never drink caffeine. I have tracked my palps (on a calendar) and can directly relate them to hormones. So, I hope in a few years that menopause will get rid of the completely! In the meantime, I'm managing MUCH better and am no longer afraid to leave the house! :)
 
  SFFAR  Posted: 02/04/2008 21:33
Stephanie, It sounds like we're about in the same boat! Either menopause will get rid of the palps or, I hate to say, bring on more. Magnesium sounds good. It's one of the things that regulates electrical. I'll ask my GP to see what he thinks and suggest a dosage. I also don't eat much processed food because of the soy content, which I believe to be a problem with me. Luckily I can cook pretty well so I can at least enjoy eating. I make my own breads and just about anything else I want because of the soy. Aloe vera may be good. I'll ask about that as well. Thank you very much and take care.
 
  Reginia  Posted: 15/04/2008 13:47
Have had the PVCs for almost a year. Have had all the heart tests you could possibly have done and the cardiologist stated that my heart is working like a 19 years old (I am 40). He put me on Atenol which seemed to have worked until recently when I have them every day again. It feels like the blood is being shot to my head and gives me a headache. They are uncomfortable. Tried the aloe and it did not seem to work. Any other suggestions? The feeling of the PVCs are miserable.
 
  Mel1224  Posted: 15/04/2008 14:11
Hi Reginia, I have had PVCs most my life. The thing that seems to work best in controlling them for me is Toprol XL 25mg and Prozac. I use to get quite obsessive in thinking about the PVCs because they were so bothersome and I was always counting the beats. The two meds together in about 2 - 3 weeks made a huge difference for me. I sometimes get a few here and there, but I'm not longer obsessing over them. Good luck. Mel
 
  Reginia  Posted: 15/04/2008 21:53
Thanks Mel. I have tried toporol but it made me gain a lot of weight so my cardiologist took me off of it and put me on the Atenol. I have not tried any sort of anxiety medications and/or anti-depressents.
 
  Nicole  Posted: 06/05/2008 03:01
Has anyone ever had a Nuclear Stress test where they inject some substance in an IV while your walking on a treadmill? I have this scheduled for my PVC's mainly to give me peace of mind but I was wondering if it was a dangerous test because of the dye or whatever they use. Thanks.
 
  Mel1224  Posted: 06/05/2008 15:23
Nicole - I had the Nuclear Stress Test done before and had absolutely no side effects from the dye they used. However, I have heard that the people who may have a reaction are those who have an allergy to iodine based products. Very rare though from what I hear. Mel
 
  marnia  Posted: 06/05/2008 22:58
Hi All...haven't been on for quite a while..but still around and well and almost 67 now. Just so the younger of you know, I've lived with this all my life.! I've had a few runs to A+E, but every time I've had a fibrillation, it's because my potassium level has gone below 3.00. I've been put on a potassium drip (which is a pain-in-the-b...because it takes several hours) but I've kept out of the wards. I have monthly blood tests and can catch the level when it begins to go too low and go on SlowK for a few days. The thought is because I'm on theophylline for asthma, that that could be the reason why my potassium goes down. It's now under further investigation and I will keep you posted.. Happy hearts to all !
 
  Nicole  Posted: 06/05/2008 23:19
Thanks Mel, I heard it was more time consuming than anything. Thanks for the reply.
 
  phililind  Posted: 12/05/2008 22:25
I just stumbled across this web-site and I am so glad that I did. I started having PVC's last September. I am 49 years old and they started out of the blue after drinking a Duncan Donuts, Iced Latte. My heart started skipping and I felt a tighthness in my chest and neck area. This alarmed me and led to a panic attack (I get panic attacks every so often). To make a long story short, I ended up in the emergency room a few days later (drove myself) because the palpitations got so bad, even after stopping from drinking coffee. They told me I had PVC'S, and go see a cardiologist. I did, took the stress test, echocardiogram and wore a heart monitor. Everything came back fine, but still had PVC's. The doctor was not too helpful and just said, "keep away from caffiene". I did but they started coming back again. I ended up going to a regular G.P and the first thing he asked me was if I had noticed having heartburn, which I did. He said to take prilosec. That seemed to help, but they started coming back. I decided to keep a log of what I was doing or eating when I felt the PVC's. I found out that Corn Syrup was the biggest contributor to my PVC's. So I went back to my doctor and he decided to go ahead and put me on 25 mg Aetenol. That has seemed to do the trick however, I still have to avoid the Corn Syrup. I read labels now on everything and you would be surprised how many things Corn Syrup is in!!!. I also have to watch my intake of refined sugar and only use organic raw sugar now. If I go too long without eating, I will feel PVC's as well. They aren't as bad since I have been on the Aetenol. I just read about the Aloe soft gels. I think I will try taking those as well. Even though I know what the PVC's are, they still make me feel uncomfortable and sometimes I get light headed and can have panic attacks. I hope that this additional information about Corn Syrup may help someone. Try cutting out foods that have this in it. Linda
 
  Nick  Posted: 14/05/2008 16:23
Hello phililind, You may be hypoglycemic... or even borderline diabetic. You are on the right track. Inflammation in your system is made worse when you add sugars that are broken down into polypeptides which fuel the fermentation of other food products inside your intestines. You must reduce your inflammation. It is a precursor to many other diseases anyway... so get on it! First cut out all fish products. No fish oils and no fish of any kind. Next cut out sugars except fructose or natural fruit sugars. Forget the aloe gel caps... they are not enough. You'd have to eat ten at a time. Gel Aloe Gel by the gallon container and drink two ounce three times a day until the palps are gone. Then maintain it with one or two ounces twice in a day ... three times a week. Home made wine is also out.. as well as hard liquor. Only good wine will be made without the chemicals that help aggravate the condition. I've checked this formula with dozens of folks all over the world who suffer this condition. It works! I surfed into this group in 2003 suffering four or five attacks a week. Each time I though I was dying. I know the anxiety it creates. Check out my article collection on this and other topics at phytoscience.ca. Good luck. Nick
 
  Eve  Posted: 15/05/2008 10:58
great discussion and great advice. I too suffer with palps. I don't know what brings them on initially and medication is a suspected side effect but I know that caffiene is not a trigger but port wine is! Yet no other type of alcohol! What I have experienced lately is more and strong palps during the hot weather - they actually wake me up! Usually in the early hours of the morning. So - I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
 
  Skippy heart  Posted: 15/05/2008 13:28
I am experiencing the same problem when I drink any type of alcohol especially at night. I get palpitations in my sleep which wakes me up and I cannot sleep thereafter until they go away. The attack can last a few hours 2-3. The palpitations I get are like an aberrant beat every other beat and I get 5-6 in a row every 1-2 minutes. A few days ago I had some wine with my dinner about 2 glasses which brought my palpitations in the same night. It’s nothing new, it has happened before. I didn’t drink alcohol the last a few days and I am palpitations free when I sleep, also during the day I don’t get that many. I personally know someone else who also has the same problem when he drinks alcohol. Amongst other things alcohol triggers palpitations. Keep strong all of you
 
  kitty  Posted: 20/05/2008 23:27
Hi everyone. I'm in New Zealand and just want to say how helpful I have found this forum. I have just been diagnosed with atrial fibrillation and have had some adventures (or misadventures) trying to get the meds right. Saw a cardiologist yesterday and am now on an ACE inhibitor and a beta blocker, plus Warfarin. But I forgot to ask her how long it will take for my pounding, irregular heartbeat to settle down! I'm only getting a couple of hours' sleep a night at the moment. Was hospitalised two weeks ago when the first lot of beta blockers slowed things down too much. Finally stabilised but the palpitations started again a week ago and have been more or less constant ever since. The cardiologist tells me that my heart pumping strength is normal, but at the lower end of normal (hence the ACE inhibitor). I feel like a walking Pharmacy with all these pills and it's really hard not to get depressed.
 
  kitty  Posted: 21/05/2008 02:59
Nick, your comments about aloe gel sound promising but I have read that too much of it can be very toxic to our bodies. How much is too much? Also, as I am on Warfarin I need to be careful about supplements because of the need to keep a Vitamin K balance - is aloe high in Vit. K, does anyone know?
 
  Skippy heart  Posted: 22/05/2008 12:01
Kitty, How long it takes for the palpitations to settle down depends on the individual. The cause of the problem differs from person to person. I have experienced twice supraventricular tachycardia and palpitations as a teenager but they went away. Now 20 years later they have come back and they are worse that before. I get bigeminy and other types of arrhythmia. In my case doctors told me that the cause for it is the increased levels of stress and anxiety. Also, I have been told that disturbance of the autonomous nervous system - which controls the heart beats - can cause palpitations. But they can be other factors as well. We should try to avoid the substances that can cause palpitations: Caffeine, tobacco, and alcohol. Reduce anxiety in our lives. Eat healthy food and in moderation. Reduce weight and exercise more often. Share any experiences you have with palpitations with others in this forum as we all find it very helpful. So keep us informed!!! Keep strong all of you Skippy Heart
 
  SFFAR  Posted: 23/05/2008 18:05
I haven't posted for a little while. I went to my GP and found out all my tests came back good. I even lowered my cholesterol! So my problem is different than most. When you are talking about all of these drugs, please don't discount the fact you may be allergic to a certain food if your heart rate doesn't stabilize while you are taking drugs. I have found soy to be my culprit. This is in absolutely everything! I eat not much processed foods because of it. Perk...weight loss. If I were some of you, not knowing what you eat, I would first lay off of the diet foods/drinks and anything with fake sugars in it. I know this is hard, but I would not ask anyone to do something that I am not already doing. Conquer this step before moving on. With step one, kick the alcohol, caffeine, chocolate and any other stimulants habit. Third, I'd work on not eating processed foods and any kind of scavenger meat...that is catfish, eel, shrimp, lobster, pork, etc. I have recently quit this and I feel really really good. It is hard to adjust your diet when your life is so hectic. It is easier to get fast food when you don't have the time. Also, don't eat too much at one time. I took the advice of taking digestive enzymes...good move on my part!!! Thank you! Take care. Best of luck to all. I hope this helps some of you if not all of you.
 
  kitty  Posted: 24/05/2008 07:49
Thanks skippy! I am happy to report that I have finally got hold of myself and am no longer stressing and fixating about the problem, and am learning to relax and have some faith! I already have a pretty good diet, don't drink or smoke, not overweight, but do need to exercise more often so I'm doing some walking each day. I have also decided not to take Warfarin but to stick with aspirin, and my cardiologist says this is fine. It is such a luxury to be able to sleep at night, and I find if I do get breakthrough palpitations I can either control them through breathing and relaxation techniques, or I can just let them carry on while I relax anyway!
 
  Kitty  Posted: 27/05/2008 04:59
Spoke too soon! Could NOT get control of things last night and in the end only got two hours' sleep. Soooo depressing, isn't it? I rang my cardiologist and she is upping the carvedilol. I was only on a very low starting dose, it seems. I'm a bit scared to do so in case it works too well and I end up in hospital again with everything going too SLOWLY. Blooming fiddly getting things right. Doc also said I can take an extra amitriptyline at night (I take that for sleep management because of fibromyalgia) so that may help. I can cope during the day if I get enough sleep - I'm a nine-hours-a-night-girl and if I don't get that I'm useless. Hugs to everyone.
 
  Dusty  Posted: 29/05/2008 19:36
I have atrila fibrillation for almost 2 years now. I have tried almost every medication and most of them dont work. The only drug that shortens them is flecanide but the drug does not eliminate them. I have found out my stomach is my problem for both PVC and AF. I have to eat little and often. Sometimes this is difficult when you are starving and I horse food into me that is when I will get a bad dose of AF. Hans Larsens book "Towards a Cure for Atrial Fibrillation" is a great help. I am having a PVA in Glenfield soon and hopefully this will help me
 
  lil  Posted: 30/05/2008 21:01
I am 22 years old and I have been normal so far in my life until maybe four months ago when I had SVT and palpitations. I get so scared when I have them they last sometimes for hours. I don't want to take medicine and I am just really frustrated. Stress is my real trigger and I can't get rid of stress, everyone has it. I have tried the whole just lie down and relax bit but it doesn't seem to work. I have a three year old son and I am trying to get in the fire academy, this crap just came out of the blue!!!! Any suggestions I am open to it. The cardiologists said that there is also a piece of my heart that does not get oxygenated blood when I over exert myself. Don't know what else to do. Overexerting is part of being a firefighter!!!!
 
  Aaron(EIZ71744)  Posted: 01/06/2008 05:09
Never have I seen a discussion like this; I live in the United States, and I experience solitary strong palpitations that take my breath away. The extra kicker to this is that I'm a recent military veteran diagnosed with PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder). When I get the palpitations, I get to relive experiences akin to dying. Just one strong untimely heartbeat, and my whole day can be changed for the worse. I have to drive an hour to the Veteran's Affairs hospital, where I have been dosed with anti-anxietics and told that "it's all in your head." I've worn a halter monitor (with no events recorded), and I had an echocardiogram (with no significant events). I've found that although I'm prone to episodic bouts of PTSD, the palpitations are definitely something apart, but they trigger my feelings of death. I've become so obsessed with my condition, I have made drastic changes to my lifestyle. I don't drink alcohol, I consume no caffeine. I worry about taking long trips in cars, because sometimes those trigger palpitations. I also saw that more than one person said that they've experienced heart fluttering when they eat. I guess I'm writing on this new found Web site because today I've had many palpitations, and I'm trying to move into my new home. What timing, huh? I'm wondering if there's anybody else out there that has adverse affects like PTSD in combination with the mysterious and life-sucking heart palpitations. You all have my deepest empathy, and I applaud all who have shared their thoughts; they have meant a lot to me this evening. Thanks.
 
  Mel1224  Posted: 03/06/2008 14:21
Hi Aaron and lil, Yes, the truth is that these heart palpitations suck! However, I am learning to live with them without altering my life so drastically anymore. My doctor put me on a beta blocker called Toprol XL 25mg and most of the time the palpitations are controlled. At least the SVT's no longer happen while I'm taking this medication. The other benefit to this medication is that when I am having break-thru PVCs - palpitations, the Toprol makes the extra heartbeat hardly noticible. Instead of a huge thump in my chest and up my throat, it's more of a.... "was that one or not?" kind of feeling. Obviously, alcohol and caffeine are triggers that I want to stay away from. But the Toprol has helped a great deal in conjuction with anti-anxiety or anti-depressants for me. Hope that is helpful. Mel
 
  rebecca(AYQ70880)  Posted: 03/06/2008 14:24
I am very concerned about my partner. He is 24 years old, exercises regularly, is healthy, doesnt smoke. But he is getting sudden pains in his chest that are leaving him crippled for a few seconds at a time. It happens about once, maybe twice a fortnight He wont go to the Doctor. Any advice?
 
  Nick  Posted: 03/06/2008 17:02
Rebecca, If he is getting crippling pain he MUST see the doctor. That is way different to palpitations. Does he get a sore jaw, arm or back of his neck at the same time? Even at that young age he could have a blocked artery. Young people, especially men, tend to think they are bulletproof. If he won't go to the doctor, then you might consider taking some classes in CPR. You will need it before long. He could take an aspirin daily... but that would just postpone the inevitable by thinning his blood. Maybe you could get him to take his blood pressure at one of those drug store pressure testers? If he is in the range of 140/95 or higher... then he needs to see the doc ASAP. A 24 year old should test at 125/70 (in that range). What is his diet like? Nick
 
  lil  Posted: 03/06/2008 17:58
Hey All, I want to start living normal again but its just like so many things trigger my palps. I dont want to take medicine and its like my cardiologists doesnt really seem to care! I am so frustrated and tired of feeling like crap once the palps start. Its like my day is ok then once I start having an attack I can't function anymore. My palps I think start to give me an anxiety attack because they are so painful and scary. I think the only option that I have is to take medicine. Uuugghh Its like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place!
 
  Anonymous  Posted: 04/06/2008 04:26
The anxiety condition is actually causing the palpitations in many cases. It is hard to believe this since the palpitations seem to come out of nowhere. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This can be a vicious cycle because you get palpitation or series of them which causes more anxiety and with your already heightened nervous system it releases more hormones, etc... which is what causes the palpitations. Many people that suffer with Panic disorders have palpitations and do not connect the two. Retrain your brain, if you can practice cognitive behavioral therapy to stop the cycle, you can change the way you think and learn to react to life in a way that does not cause you anxiety which in turn creates the palpitation symptoms as well as any worrisome thoughts, phobias, obsessions. We (those of us that have anxiety) try to find a physical reason for something that is more related to the brain and how we process our thought. Rule out the physical possibilities and take a good look at how you react to life. Think back to when you were a child, that is where it started. If you think that this can be all due to anxiety, find a program that deals with Anxiety, depression, panic. Even if you don't have all of them, it is all related. Help yourself and you will feel more in control of your well being, physically and mentally.
 
  Eve  Posted: 04/06/2008 08:43
I have the palps back as our hot weather returns! But I'm lucky in that they're not as bad as many of you. Had than last night literally as I closed my eyes to goto sleep and could hear them in my heart. Like a series or rapid thudding beats - 4 per second, for 10 or 12 seconds, then skipping a beat - then a really loud beat, then normal for a minute - after which it happened again! These are not like the 'normal' irregular beats I get in cooler weather! I'm puzzled lil as to why you don't wants to take tablets to control the palps as they're obviously distressing you. If I thought there was something I could take (conversely mine are aside effect of medication, which I'll need for life), especially with a heart condition being involved, I would certainly give it a try.
 
  rebecca(AYQ70880)  Posted: 04/06/2008 09:20
he has a fast metabolism and eats quite healthy. He does have chips a lot, but meat and two veg too. Think i'll make him go. thanks
 
  lil  Posted: 04/06/2008 14:52
Eve & Annonymous, Eve I don't want to take medicine because then I will have to take this medication for the rest of my life and I am pretty much just starting out. I am only 22. I guess I am just still a bit bitter as to why all of a sudden this problem came to be. Anonymous my palps came before the anxiety I just recently started having the anxiety attacks with my palps.
 
  Eve  Posted: 04/06/2008 16:33
Eve, I too have to take medication for the rest of my life and I was only 27 when I started on it but for me it was a pretty simple choice - I take the medication to repair, recover and stay well Or I stay ill. But I was like that at the start - why me, other people my age and twice my age don't have my symptoms, my illness or my medication. But then I realised that s**t happens - and on that occasion it happened to me and thats life. My condition is something relatively minor provided I look after myself, it is treatable and the cost of medication isn't crippling so if there was something I could take for the palps - if I needed to, I'd have pretty much the same outlook. I'm 35 by the way.
 
  Prunch  Posted: 04/06/2008 19:30
In response to lil.I'm Male.i'm 44 years old.I got my first attack of Palpitations when I was 17 years old.I was told by my then doctor"Its Anxiety"and he prescribed relaxing tablets(roche 20s).I was lucky in a sense that I was aware thru a buddys mothers sufferings with Depression and Anxieties,that these medications were highly addictive so I never took them.Doctors can be rather lax about things like this.Can you imagine a Middle aged doctor handing out Anxiety drugs to a 17 year old young boy?No explination,no consultations,ect,ect.In a sense you are correct not to take anything immediately.There are other forms of alternative treatments like Relaxation classes,or just simply an explaination from someone within the field of this particular complaint.I eventually came across a book by a DR Claire Weeks which explained exactly what was happening to me.From this book I gained a lot of knowledge and learned a lot.I became agrophobic in the meantime so it was mushrooming out of control.
 
  Prunch  Posted: 04/06/2008 19:40
lil continued...Over the years I learned to live with my Palpatations and only up to recently I decided to take Anti depressant drugs for 2 years.I am now off them but it would be silly of me not to say that my young adult life was in turmoil.I missed out on lots of things thru Palpatations,Anxiety,Agrophobia,ect,ect.I used to sit in the dining room and have my hand up to my heart for hours on end.If we concentrate too much on something,it will never go away,only make things worse.I have since learned I have Hemochromatosis(too much iron) and Palpatations are a symptom of this.It was over 20 years after my first attack I learned this.What i'm saying basically is Lil.Don't just take medications because your doctor says so.Check out alternative methods.If you get hooked on this stuff,life can go extremely downhill and never return to normality.I'm not being a scare monger here,I'm simply being honest.There are other alternatives to the Pharmacutical industries.Buy that book SELF HELP FOR YOUR NERVES by Dr Claire Weeks and let me know how you get on.I can be contacted at Rankiebeans@hotmail.com if you care to ask me anything.That goes for anyone else out there.Thanks for listening and best of luck to you all.I'm an irish citizen by the way.
 
  Glynis(SYU71473)  Posted: 05/06/2008 10:18
Update on me! After six weeks my AF seems to be coming under control. It is such BLISS to be able to sleep at night again! My cardiologist has me on carvedilol (B Blocker) plus Accupril (my heart pumping rate is at the lower end of normal). I decided against taking Warfarin because of the lifestyle implications, and doc was happy for me to remain on aspirin instead. I have found my palps start up when I eat too much at once, so am trying to manage that better. I have also discovered that stretching my spine out (arching my back) can help to stop an attack in its tracks. Don't know why, but it helps! Any ideas as to why it should?
 
  Eve  Posted: 05/06/2008 10:55
Now maybe I have got it wrong lil - I thought your doctor was perscribing medication for your palps and related heart condition not for anxiety! Frankly, if I didn't have an anxiety condition myself, I couldn't see any reason to take anti-anxiety meds either. Prunch, 20 odd years ago valium was handed out like smarties for everythign from shyness to PMT - I kid you NOT. My MIL was given it for gall-bladder troubel and pretty much told she was imagining her symptoms. Nowadays of course, valium is used for short-term treatment only, precisely becuase of its addictive nature and other types of ani-anx meds are used for long term treatment. But again, I wouldn't take meds for something I didn't have so I wouldn't take anti-anx meds unles I had an anxiety problem. But if I could take meds to eliminate my palps I certainly would. Glynis, I would be interested in what you were told about Warfarin and its lifestyle implications as my father was on it for years with a heart conditon - he was told aspirin was not suitable for his condition.
 
  Anonymous(BGK71798)  Posted: 05/06/2008 20:34
Try to change only one thing at a time. If you are going to add Aloe Gel, than only do that. do not change around your whole diet, etc. It is the only way to really know what will work; it is a more controlled study. I know many people with palpitations are trying to find a physical reason, which you should. I did. But once everything is ruled out, please consider that you have an anxiety disorder. It may sound strange because you can be at rest and get palps, but anxiety can cause your system to be highly sensitized at all times and your body can be releasing chemicals (hormones, adrenalin, etc.) to cause the palps whether you are in an anxiety state or not. Just take a simple quiz that you can find on many anxiety/ panic/depression sites. You may be surprised. If you are honest with the answers you could just be reacting to life in a way that has taken a toll on your body, and now this is how your body is reacting to your heightened state of anxiety. The palps are only the symptoms. You can change the way you think, it is not an overnight cure but it took your whole life to be that way, with cognitive behavioral therapy you can get control of the paps as well as any other phobias or fears you may have. It is interesting how the mind and body are linked. I hope this helps someone, it has helped me. Once I let go of trying to find some physical reason for this physical symptom and looked at my mind, it all changed. This does not mean you are mentally ill, that is why we do not want to accept it, we are afraid of this stigma of mental illness. Anxiety disorder is just that, a disorder. And it is something we can do something about. I hope this helps.
 
  Glynis(SYU71473)  Posted: 05/06/2008 22:27
Hi Eve. By the way, I have previously posted as 'Kitty'. Forgot to do the nickname thing last time, and deliberately just for this reply, but will be Kitty for any further posts. Now you're thoroughly confused, I'll continue! About the Warfarin - the blood tests and the dietary 'watch' (Vitamin K having to be kept constant, not able to take some of my favourite supplements/herbs I use for another condition). I am only a low to moderate risk for a clot so my cardiologist didn't have any objections to my remaining on aspirin.
 
  Eve  Posted: 06/06/2008 09:34
Thanks Glynis, I was confused! Didn't realise you had also posted as Kitty. I'm probably in under Anonymous way back myself. I only look in occasionaly becuase the palps lukily don't cause a big problem for me and I know the cause. I found a novel way to deal with them last night (another warm night), they started when I was in bed, getting ready to go to sleep - and I started counting them!! Perhaps its like counting sheep. don't know when they stopped because I drifted off to sleep while counting!! realise this mightn't work for anyone with serious palps or who doesn't know the cause but strange as it may seem, it got me off to sleep.
 
  jonah  Posted: 11/06/2008 11:56
I have just been prescribed Coumadin (Warfarin). Is it true that even slight bruising or a fall means I must seek medical attention? I would like hear from someone who regularly takes this drug.
 
  Kitty  Posted: 11/06/2008 21:50
I am also interested in hearing from those on Warfarin. I have opted not to take it, but instead to continue with aspirin until I find out more about the Warfarin. From what I have read, the lifestyle/diet management makes things tricky. How does it affect you diet-wise? How often do you need blood tests? Anyone had any bad bleeding problems?
 
  jonah  Posted: 12/06/2008 10:36
Hallo, Kitty I was in two minds about starting treatment myself, but this morning I spoke to a very reliable district nurse who told me she knows many people on Warfarin or Coumadin who have had very little trouble with these drugs. I decided to take a chance (starting tomorrow) and I'll let you know what happens. Maybe I'll change my nickname to 'guinea pig.'
 
  Eve  Posted: 12/06/2008 11:20
May Dad was on warfarin for years. For hin it was medically mandated due to a heart valve operation. He used to get blood tests every 6 weeks but the warfarin clinic at the local hospital opened at 7am so he could be in and out in 15 minutes, before work. The only side effect he found was when he had a couple of pints - and three would be the maximum on warfarin as its perscibed as an anticlotign agent and alcohol affrcts this. But if he had a few drinks and cut himself shaving the next day (a frequent occurence, as he often had bursitis) he would bleed considerably. This doesn't apply to women or bearded men of course. Not hemorheaging or anything like that but I remember him complaining about it. When he was in a small accident at work, he did go to hospital but there was no internal bleeding. They were very very thorogh however. Not the same as talking to someone who's on it, I know but I hope this helps.
 
  jonah  Posted: 12/06/2008 17:20
Eve, It does help Thanks.
 
  jonah  Posted: 14/06/2008 13:25
I am 62 years old and work in a number of environments. One of my jobs involves moving or lifting fairly heavy objects which may have sharp edges and sometimes cleaning up when there's broken glass or rusty nails around. Is this advisable while being treated with Coumadin?
 
  Eve  Posted: 16/06/2008 09:54
If coumadin is a form of warfarin I would advise you to take great care. Obviously you'll wear gloves and protective clothing but where there are rusty nails etc, make sure you get regular tetanus shots.
 
  jonah  Posted: 16/06/2008 12:19
Good point. I've already started to take precautions. The concensus seems to be that there are risks, but the risks can greatly reduced. A lot depends on the common sense of the patient.
 
  mary(ZOH72249)  Posted: 19/06/2008 13:21
Hi all I've just come across this page today and as it happens am have a heart monitor on at the moment, i hope i have palps while wearing it! I've been having palps for a few years now and finally my doc has referred me. I gave up all cafine last year and although it helped reduce the number of incidents they didn't go completely. They can be very bad at times and seem to happen at any time the worst is at night when they wake me and it feels as though my heart is trying to escape up through my throat and the i get a rush of blood to my head. These incidents are very scary. I have certaianly noticed a connection with palps and alcohol. I don't drink a lot but on nights when i have had 2 or 3 beers my heart races painfully and i have trouble sleeping.
 
  Dusty  Posted: 25/06/2008 09:41
Kitty, I have AF also and I know for a fact that my stomach/digestion most definetly brings them on. I have read also that excess stomach acid (GERD) brings on AF. So I take ZOton each morning before I eat and it has helped though it has not stopped them breaking through. It really is a constant battle and vigilance before I eat something and when I eat something is of vital importance. Large meals out, alchol out, caffine out (I take decaf tea, its not bad) spicy food of any kind, out. I take 100mg of flecanide when I feel them coming on, this does not stop them dead but it considerably shortens them ... most of the time. If I get AF I always look back up to 3-4 hours back and see what the triggers were. This has helped me to avoid them sometime. As you can see, they still get through. I am waiting for an ablation sometime in July/August 2008 and I sincerely hope this works even partially. Dont give up, I'm not.
 
  Nick  Posted: 25/06/2008 16:51
Dusty, You have come to the realization that George and I and some others have been discussing for three or more years on this board. It is definitely related to digestion. I'm in constant contact with about a dozen folks I met here. Nearly all of them beat this thing with a simple regimen. 1. No fish oils 2. No fish other than pink wild salmon 3. Drink two ounces of Aloe Gel every day 4. No home made wines 5. No cheap read wines I reintroduced caffeine with no problems. I have several cups a day now and it is not a problem. I might get one breakout every six months... and it is very short. And it is usually connected to me not following the rules above. With no fish as rules 1 and 2 you might wonder where I get omega 3. FLAX OIL! It is actually better than fish oil. This works very well. And I suffered for years with this until George made the breakthrough with Aloe Gel. NOT JUICE.... Aloe GEL. Nick nickATLucidboomerDOTcom
 
  Kitty  Posted: 26/06/2008 22:29
Hi Dusty - I take Losec (stomach acid reducer) once a day, before I eat in the evening. I'm not sure it's making much difference but then again I haven't left it off to see what happens! I am starting to notice trends with AF attacks. Chocolate is an absolute no-no, as is too much fat. I am now drinking fresh vege and apple juice twice a day and that seems to settle things somewhat - probably alkalises my body. I also note that stress - even the GOOD sort - is likely to set me off. Things have come to a pretty pass when I have to live a boring life to feel well, huh? And for Nick - I think I posted once before about this but can't recall getting a response. My apologies if I missed it. I have read that taking aloe over a long period or in excess can be harmful. Have you got any info on this? Also, why is fish oil out? I can't take flax oil for other reasons.
 
  Nick  Posted: 30/06/2008 19:32
Hi Kitty, I posted but I think it went to the wrong group. I would like to see the source of the comment you read that said Aloe is harmful over a long term. People who are unqualified often post things they either don't know enough about, or they have special interests to support. My Director of Research for my organization recently challenged the chief scientist at a major health foods company. They sold a popular brand of Goji juice. That's all the rage here in North America. Goji in this particular brand, as in many of them, is made from the Himalayan Goji berry. That berry is more commonly known as the Wolfberry... and it has both arsenic and mercury in it. After a good month of email back and forth that company has taken their product off the shelf and is reformulating with Lycium berry instead. We often use the Dr. Duke Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical database for conducting our research. It is THE LARGEST database of its kind in the world. You can access it by googling "Dr. Duke Phytochemical". There are no contra indications for Aloe Gel. There are for the juice however. Perhaps you heard someone talk about the juice? I have never heard anyone talk about the Gel except here on this group. If you send me the source of your comments, I will promise to research it. As for fish oils - most of them are made from farmed fish which put all kinds of nasty stuff into you.. including hormones and antibiotics! You can get wild fish oils but they have heavy metals. Sorry.. but we have polluted the oceans too far now. The only fish that is safe is the pink salmon and that is because it doesn't live long enough to accumulate dangerous levels of heavy metals. Nick.
 
  Dusty  Posted: 30/06/2008 20:50
Hi Kitty, You are correct, Losec (and Zoton) are helpful in helping deal with the AF but they will not eliminate AF on their own-sadly. My AF has progressed to the point where I get it every two days. It is terrible. I take 100mg of flecanide "pill in the pocket" This approach does not eliminate but shortens the AF episode from 12-16 hours to 5-6 hours. This is the best I can do for the time being. I purchased the book " Lone Atrial Fibrillation Towards a Cure" by Hans R.Larsen. You can download it in it's electronic form which is less expensive that the spiral bound version. Reading this book has most certainly helped me deal with this awful affliction. It is very very easy to read- no technical jargan but most importanly it gives great hope and sound advice and Kitty it will help you. It has taught me so much that I have actually advised my cardiologist on certain particular aspects of AF that he was not (and in my view, was not interested in ) aware of. As mentioned in an earlier post, I am going for an ablation in a hospital in the UK at the end of July. I pray to God, that this help me. That is all I am asking. Good Luck. Dusty
 
  Stephanie  Posted: 01/07/2008 16:59
Thanks for the information Nick. I was thrilled to read in another post that I can get my omegas in flaxseed and not fish oil (I am allergic to shellfish and have been cautioned against taking fish oil). Now that I read how harmful the fish oil is - I'm glad I haven't been taking it! I sprinkle ground flaxseed on salads - is that sufficient? On another note - after 3 years, my palps have subsided. Not entirely, but I feel more able to live a 'normal' life. I don't get them nearly as often, nor are they as severe. I do feel Magnesium Glycinate has something to do with it because when I forget to take it for several days, I do notice they get worse. Certainly not a controlled study, but it seems to work for me!
 
  Nick  Posted: 02/07/2008 17:55
Hi Stephanie, Yes.. you can sprinkle ground flax on your salads. that is what I do. I also put it in my yogurt in the mornings with some fruit. Interesting with the magnesium. That confirms the Aloe efficacy. Magnesium is a base element in many stomach remedies (milk of magnesia to name just one). It tells me that your palps are more related to your digestive system than anything else. You might find that with Aloe Gel, the palps go away completely. Nick.
 
  julia  Posted: 02/07/2008 22:54
hi i have been experiencing increased heart rate which continues when i have completed an intense workout at th gym
 
  Eve  Posted: 03/07/2008 11:20
Hi All, I was havig fewer palps there for a couple of weeks! But last night I had acid reflux, which was stress-related rahter than related to something I ate, and back came the palps!! So stress-related reflux seesm to make the worse for me anyway.
 
  Martin(ZPR72709)  Posted: 07/07/2008 12:42
Take Responsibility for your Palps Western medicine will quickly identify any abnormalities – go that route before anything else. Heart rhythm disturbances have plagued me for 12 years – but I may at last be free of them. Here is what I found: 1. Doctors don’t understand unless they’ve suffered from palps. Their reassurances just make matters worse (and the medications they prescribe can too). 2. Cardiologists only get concerned about life threatening arrhythmias – PVCs (no matter how frequent) don’t seem to concern them. 3. The hard wiring between the brain and the heart means that you will become anxious and possibly depressed if your palps are regular. 4. The causes of palpitations are almost too numerous to mention, but here is a go at listing some causes – food intolerances, thyroid problems, adrenal problems, stomach acid, over-exercise (70% of people with atrial fibrillation have a history of hard exercise), mercury toxicity (from fillings), stimulants (coffe, tea, chocolate), high blood pressure, anxiety (vicious circle), and many, many more. 5. You may have to take responsibility for your palps is western medicine doesn’t nail them. 6. It may take a long time to get to the cause – in the process you will learn much about your body and your own personality. I’m trying to be brief because so much has happened to me over the last 12 years - including nearly dying from myocarditis (viral infection that finishes many people off). Here is a brief history of my condition: 1996 – first run of atrial fibrillation (6 hours) – tests showed my heart was OK – but consultant put my mind totally at peace (not) by telling me it would come back and get worse as I got older. 1996 – 2006 – frequent short runs of afib and many, many PACs and PVCs. Slowly eroded away at my confidence and peace of mind. 2006 – diagnosed with myocarditis – I was told I only survived because the arteries going into my heart were in unusually good condition. Arrythmias followed – atrial fibrillation every day – lasting up to 17 hours, despite taking amiodarone the nuclear bomb of anti – arrhythmics. 2006 Oct – ablation for atrail fibrillation – a success, but hundreds and often thousands of PVCs and PACs every day. 2007 – removal of mercury fillings with some improvement in condition. 7 day holter showed thousands of PVCs and PACs – cardiologist said it was ‘normal’ – give me a break. 2008 – experimented with supplements, foods, herbs, acupuncture etc etc. Nothing changed until I met a Doctor who had suffered from palps and found her own solution. She also trained in Naturopathy - tests showed I had several bad food reactions. Chocolate, butter, milk, vanilla, E102, E202, E220 additives eliminated from diet. From having thousands of PVSc and PACs a day I now have none – zero (touch wood). The moral of the story is you have to find your own way if standard medicine can’t help. I put this here to help and to add to the excellent information contained in this thread. Don’t give up – because the next stone you turn over might reveal the key to getting your life back. God bless Martin
 
  Eve  Posted: 07/07/2008 16:15
another one for you Martin - port. I'm hypothyoird and liklihood palps are a side effect of my meds. But drinking port turns the liklihood into a definite. Be careful as regards remoiving mercury fillings tho and some teeth have cavaties too large or are so damaged that theyt are only suitable for amalgam fillings and the act of removing the amalgam and attempting to replace it with compositive can furthe damage the teeth to the point of needing double-root canals and possibly crowns. I personally, would rather palps. besides, surely a proven mercury sesitivity would porduce other symptoms.
 
  michael(CHF22712)  Posted: 07/07/2008 17:01
Hello Martin, Have just read you very detailed explanitatin for the many causes of AF and PVC, PAC. You have hit the nail on the head. You are absolutely correct in stating that one has to find the cause of these awful conditions oneself. I am glad for you that you have finally cracked it. It is a long road, but if one takes note of the tiny little things that set the heart of, then it is definetly worth it. God Bless and good Luck. Actually you made your own luck. Dusty
 
  Prunch  Posted: 07/07/2008 17:41
Congratulations Martin.I read your letter and agree 1,000%.If you scroll down you might see my previous postings.You've added to what I was trying to say.I have little faith in Western Medicine.Doctors have limited knowledge.I've been trying to say...The more you concentrate on something the worse it will get in regard to Palpatations.I got my first attacks 27 years ago.I've been given anti depressants,relaxers,Heart beat regulators,water retention drugs(thanks to the heart beat regulators).Then after many years I was told I had Hemochromatosis(too much iron) which symptoms include irregular heart beats,Diabetes,ect,ect.I'm still suffering.No one can help me.It's true what you say...it opens up lots of doors and I might as well be going to a motor mechanic.
 
  Martin(ZPR72709)  Posted: 10/07/2008 12:34
Thanks for the responses - on mercury amalgam - I had safe removal by a dentist in London. I had many symptoms of mercury toxicity - tremors, tiredness, skin rashes, joint pain - all gone since the mercury removal (I also had 21 root canals and 11 crowns as a result of the removal - i paid the price).
 
  Eve  Posted: 10/07/2008 13:13
Thans for the advice Martin, good to know its avaiable for those affected but 21 root canals and 11 crowns as a result of the removal - I think I would prefer the palps to be honest. That extent of treatment would probably result in me havign something worse than palps in fact.
 
  Kitty  Posted: 10/07/2008 22:52
Out of curiosity (to see if it would help) I have just started chiropractic care. I was amazed when I saw my spinal x-ray - my spine takes a dramatic 'lean' to the left (when viewed from the back) right at the point of the vertebrae that controls the nerves to the heart. There is also some abnormality of the spine in the neck area that could affect the pathways to the heart. Coincidence? Well, time will tell!!! My cardiologist and GP are only interested in treating the AFib itself, not exploring what might be causing it. Will keep you all posted!
 
  Eve  Posted: 11/07/2008 12:26
Now I never thought of palps (mine ae medication related I know but for other people) as being related to spinal misalignment. Thanks for bringig that to light Kitty. For those interested (I have a friend who gets palps now, after having surgery - which was not heart related) maybe you could provide or with a link or address to get a list of registered doctors of chiropractic here in Ireland. That would be great.
 
  phililind  Posted: 22/07/2008 14:26
Hello again... Thank you Nick for the information regarding the Aloe Gel. I have been away for a while and was not able to get to a computer... At first I thought you might have meant Aloe Juice.. so I bought some organic pure full strength Aloe Vero juice... I was having a bad day with the PVC's (not sure what brought them on) so I went to the store and bought the juice... Within 15 minutes the PVC's went away.... then I went back on to this site and saw further that you did mean Aloe Gel, not juice. Question.... where do you recommend getting the Aloe Gel... I was told by our chiropractor that it might need to be pharmaceutical grade.... I went on line to see if I could find something there... Would a health food store carry the right type? Would appreciate any help that you can give me.
 
  Nick  Posted: 22/07/2008 19:52
Hi Phililind, I get my Aloe gel in Washington state at any "Vitamin World" store or any GNC store. Most good health food stores will have it. I got it last year while on holidays in southern Oregon at a little health food store. It is $19 a gallon. You chiropractor should know better that to guess when he doesn't know. Pharmaceutical grade refers to a drug. Aloe Gel is a food - NOT at drug. That's like saying I prefer pharmaceutical grade watermelon! A bit silly. Aleo gel comes from the center of the plant. It is only the gel. It it completely analysed in Dr. Duke's phytonutrient database. If you google that term and get to the database, you can search the database for "Aloe Gel". You will see that it has some of the base constituents used in Immodium! That ought to tell people something about the efficacy of Aloe Gel. Of course Big Pharma doesn't want you to know about that ... or the Duke Database.... which is the largest phytochemical and phytonutrient database in the world. As a side note... while you are on the database, check out Gogi berries (commonly called Tibetan Wolfberry). They contain arsenic and mercury! I use this DB to analyse most of the foods I eat. Check out the good old Irish Potato! It's great for you! If you have trouble finding the db ... send me a message - nickATLucidboomerDOTcom
 
  Kitty  Posted: 23/07/2008 22:58
Eve - can't oblige with a list of chiropractors in Ireland, mainly because I'm in New Zealand! Sorry! I am into my third week of chiropractic treatment and she certainly seems to be able to stop an attack if I'm in AFib when I see her. Time will tell if continued treatment will diminish them even further.
 
  Eve  Posted: 24/07/2008 10:15
Oh Sorry Kitty - I had no idea. Now we have people from the UK, US and NZ as well as here in Irland posting on this. That's very positive, I think.
 
  Coby(HKQ73351)  Posted: 31/07/2008 10:58
Hi, I am a 42 year old female from Australia. First, I want to thank everyone who's already contributed to this discussion. I already feel a sense of hope. My father has AF which is frequent in spite of all sorts of treatment. I am very worried I am already on the path to AF. Very often, usually around an hour before bed, I feel the familiar sensation of anxiety building and my heart starting to pound. I cannot sleep when I am experiencing palpitations. I have had all sorts of tests, and everything comes back 'normal'. I have never had palpitations during these attacks. We once had the ambulance arrive, and they confirmed my heart rate was 'a little fast' (but it had already diminished somewhat). I feel a little better when I am standing than laying down. The experience will often last all night, and sometimes carry on into the following day. I have a teaspoon of ground linseed (flax seed) with my bran cereal in the morning, along with fat free milk. Other than that, I eat a wide range of foods, including many things which I see now may be suspect: chocolate, vanilla, dairy etc (I don't like coffee or tea). Considering Dr's tell me that I just have to 'relax' and not worry about it, I wonder if any of you can suggest what action you would take to improve my circumstances. Say, cutting out certain foods or adding certain things? I am overweight and am working on that side of my life. Curiously during my whole pregnancy (17 weeks ago) I never had one episode, but prior to being pregnant, and now after I have them once or twice a week, for at least 6 hours at a time. I DO feel I can almost bring it on by worrying about it, and the sensation ranges from fast heartbeat to pounding but slower beats, though always regular, sometimes one of those big *bang* beats, the type that wakes you as you are almost asleep. Thanks for any input.
 
  Eve  Posted: 31/07/2008 11:53
It's funny Coby, but when I think back, I never had them while on the pill. I went off the pill, when I went onto by thyroid meds, (with which my palps are associated) but not for any reason to do with my thyroid - just found what I considered to be a better contraceptive. But consider the pill has essentiually the same hormones that are produced in early pregnancy I would could it have had a role in preventing palps or is it just conincidence that I had gone off the pill the same time as my newly perscribed thyroid meds started to cuase palps as a side-effect? Interesting.
 
  Kitty  Posted: 01/08/2008 01:22
Hi Coby - I'm not too far away from you, I'm just 'across the ditch' in New Zealand! I really feel for you. My AF was not diagnosed at first, even by a cardiologist, because my heart never 'obliged' with AF when I had an ECG or a scan! He told me it was a 'benign' condition, not to worry, and to take some Magnesium and Fish Oil, which I did and continued on them for years, ignoring each attack of racing heart. About four months ago it started getting bad, and I was probably in AFib more often than not for around four weeks - went all night and you know what that's like! It was triggered into this new level of activity, I believe, due to the shock of my mum becoming very ill and almost dying. But I just thought "Hey the doc said it's nothing to worry about". But when exhaustion (and frustration, and tears) set in, and I started getting spells of light-headedness, I went to my doc. The ECG definitely showed something that time! To cut an already long story short (!!!), I ended up with a new cardiologist who diagnosed AFib and am now on four different meds which control it most of the time. What I would suggest you do, Cody, is ask to be referred to a heart specialist who will most likely have you wear a monitor for a few days. If you're 'lucky' an episode or two will be caught and they can diagnose from that. It could very well be brought on by stress - I got to the stage where I was talking myself into it because I was so worried about it! Have a big hug, my Aussie friend. I do hope you don't have to wait for years as I did, for a diagnosis.
 
  Kitty  Posted: 01/08/2008 01:22
Ooops sorry! I ended up calling you Cody. My apologies. You may retaliate by calling me Kibby! hehehehe
 
  Coby(HKQ73351)  Posted: 01/08/2008 04:29
That's a really good point, and it would make a lot of sense. I was trying to think about what I did differently during this last pregnancy. There are a few things that could also be the reason. I cut back a lot on my fish oil tablets. I was eating healthier, minimal carbohydrates, low fat, lots of veg, lean meat the usual story. I just SO want the answer to this, I want it fixed. I read that this isn't life threatening, but I can't function when I have had no sleep because of this, and I have three little kids to chase after. I found one website which suggested that the palpitations can weaken the heart muscles. I hope that's wrong, but it seems to have a ring of truth about it.
 
  Kitty  Posted: 02/08/2008 06:14
Coby, I think there is some truth about AFib weakening the heart. In my own case, a heart scan five years ago showed it to be perfect. The latest one showed that my 'pumping' ability is now on the lower edge of normal. My cardiologist tells me it is because of the heart racing frequently - I am wearing my heart out! She is optimistic that with meds to assist my heart function it will eventually build itself up again. So if you're at all worried, ask for a referral to a cardiologist.
 
  Coby(HKQ73351)  Posted: 07/08/2008 06:46
Kitty, thank you for taking the time to tell me what you went through. I am not so much happy to hear what you have gone through as relieved to see similar symptoms to help confirm I am not loony! I've had the monitor which came back showing everything was normal (typically nothing happened during that time), of course my body waited until I had returned a normal result to play up again. It's somewhat helpful to know that I may have some control over it, at least in the early days, where I can perhaps talk myself out of it, if I can talk myself into it. I have tried to convince myself I am fortunate that this is the worst problem I have in my life - compared to the serious nature of other ailments out there - but of course if it could be controlled altogether that would be a better option. I can't help worrying (lol as if it helps) about my kids, imagining I am going to die from this and leave them motherless. Naturally this is having a negative effect on my heart as well. So much of what you went through I can feel myself going through in the future or already having experienced it. I am sorry, if this reply makes little sense it is because I am running on a serious lack of sleep. And you can call me Cody, for all the reassurance you have given me I will let you call me anything!
 
  Kitty  Posted: 07/08/2008 21:12
Hey there Coby - well I know the lack of sleep problem, and I don't have children at home anymore so I really hold out a big hug to you. Persist with your doctor to see if an episode can be 'caught' - even try to get to see him/her when you're having an episode by phoning and saying you need to go in. Keep a diary of 'heart' events so you have something to show your doctor - including writing down your pulse rates during episodes (count the number of beats in your wrist for 30 seconds and multiply by 2). Sending hugs and prayers to you.
 
  Eve  Posted: 08/08/2008 10:05
Had very little sleep the night before last - no palps but just couldn't settle. But had plenty of energy when I got up. The same last night little sleep but had loads of energy when I got up this morning and now have Crazy palps. Keep having to take deep breaths. Not lucking for the 'miracle cure' from you guys - sure if you had it you'd be using it yourselves. Just helps to be able to write it down.
 
  Greg  Posted: 15/08/2008 02:11
Hey all, What a great comfort to be able to talk with others who are experiencing the same horrible palpitations as I have for the last 3 years. I'm 27 now and I've had palpitations off and on since I left college in 2005. They come at all random times of the day and all my doctors, 3 or 4 cardiologists, everyone is telling me my heart is A-ok and that it's me stressing out. Relax they say ... Don't stress about it .. just be happy it's nothing worse. If they knew what it was like ... I mean, I even started completely fresh at Duke Medical Hospital in Durham, NC and went through everything ... stress tests, countless ECG's, Holters, MRI's, my body weight in blood tests three times over probably ... and all signs pointed to my heart being fine. So... it's me, apparently i'm "stressed" even when I don't feel stressed ... and I'm anxious when I have nothing to be anxious about ... i mean, I don't feel anxious at all ... but my heart is doing backflips so i'm force fed that I am. Zoloft did nothing ... then I went to Prozac which seemed to have helped but coincidentally I started it as I was quitting a stressful job and joining a rockband touring the east coast .. funny how the palpitations all but completely went away during that year .. but now that I'm back to work as a project manager, the stress is back with a vengeance and so are the palpitations .. and I mean WOW. I've not had regular sinus rhythm for about 3 weeks now ... and counting. yes, i'm not kidding, 3 weeks of *two regular heartbeats - palp .... 3 reg heartbts - palp ... palp ..palp ... 4 reg beat and palp .. on and on and on forever it seems .. It freaked me out last night as they woke me up in a frenzy of tachy palps one right after the other and forceful to boot ... almost another couple grand flushed down by worthless ER visits that solve nothing .. so I luckily had a Clonazapam and that settled me down and zombied me back to sleep ... but this is just excrutiating .. i haven't tried the sea salt approach yet ... and i haven't tried the aloe gel either so .. there's still hope .. the Doc today prescribed Xanax to calm me down in times of major bouts .. but drugging myself is not something I'm stoked about .. I do it cause I have to .. there has to be a root cause that can be treated ... it's a nightmare scenario .. i just want some relief thanks for listening greg
 
  carol(QPM74378)  Posted: 26/08/2008 21:14
Hello, I have had palps for years and just chalked it up to anxiety. But, a couple weeks ago I was just sitting there talking to my husband and my heart felt like it did a huge flip flop and I blacked out. I did not lose consiousness but everything went black and I felt like maybe I had a bunch of blood rushing to my head. It scared the heck out of me. Lasted about 10 secs. Ever since then I have anxiety and I wake up in the middle of the night with a rapid heart rate and it feels like I have a lot of pounding and pressure in my chest, neck, and sometimes head. I am going to the doc for tests, so far no news, ekg and ecg were fine. Didn't do it all on the holter monitor. Does anyone know if stress can give you palps that make you black out? Please help...I am very scared. 38 year old mom, non-smoker, non-drinker, no caffiene.
 
  Skippy heart  Posted: 27/08/2008 12:03
Carol, Greg, and All, Perhaps Carol the bunch of blood rushing to your head was because your heart made extra systolic beat then paused and then a strong beat followed, with a lot of blood send to your body. The beat after the pause is a lot of stronger that’s why we feel it. I feel strong beats after a pause, did you heart paused for 10 seconds? Or you had multiple extra beats in sequence for 10 seconds? We don’t normally feel the extra beats. I am having the same problem anxiety. I am 100% sure that my palps are caused by stress and nothing else. I don't drink coffee or tea don't smoke don't drink alcohol. But even if I was, I am sure woundn't have made any difference because my problem is stress and not the coffee or alcohol. I went on holiday to Rhodes recently and amazingly my palps have gone from the very first day. I didn't get even a single one. I went swimming in the sea and pool, dancing, had alcoholic drinks, coffee and spent hours touring around the island (it was very hot), again not a single one. What happened? I can’t believe that my anxiety went away. Now back to London back to work and back to normal with my palpitations worse than before. Yesterday they were so bad on the way back home from work. Eventually I got home but I thought that I wasn’t going to make it. I don’t feel stressed like you Greg but I am very stressed as the doctors keep telling me. I feel normal, perhaps normal for me is to be stressed and if occasionally relaxed that’s abnormal. I don’t know what to do any more, it affects every aspect of my life. I have seen so many cardiologists and had numerous tests and everyone tells me that my heart is normal. Keep strong all of you Skippy Heart
 
  carol(QPM74378)  Posted: 27/08/2008 16:25
Hello Skippy Heart, Thanks for your reply. Do you know if EXTRA blood sent to your body or brain can cause a black out? I always thought it was because of a lack of blood. No, my heart didn't pause for 10 secs, it felt like it did a huge somersault and the blacking out lasted for about 10 secs. I am sorry about your stress. I have had stress/anxiety on and off for years. Deep breathing and positive thinking techniques seem to help if you can't escape the stressors in your life. A big part of mine is my job too. Amazing the physical effects stress can have on your body. Try to take comfort in the fact that the doctors say your heart is fine, and thank God for that.
 
  TaylorG  Posted: 27/08/2008 21:05
Hey everybody, I just found this site a few days ago and it has almost totally brought me out of my depression. I'm 17 years old. I've been having PVC's for about 2 months now, i've been to the ER twice now and 2 cardiologists. I was having "frequent PVC's" on the EKG at the ER and was directed to a cardiologist. I just got done with my 24hr monitor and waiting for the results. Well basically I just want to tell you what i've done to kind of control them and also want to hear what some of you do and I also have a few questions about toprol if any of you take it. I started having these around 2 am a couple months ago I was sitting at the computer, and just totally freaked out so I was having one every other beat for about 5 hours. It seems like I only get them late at night when i'm laying in bed or sitting down, so basically my butt is in bed at 9-9:30pm because i've noticed they come around 11pm. That has helped for about 3 days but last night I was sleeping and my dogs started barking and it woke me up because it scared me and yup you guessed it I was having pvc's....I was so mad and depressed...So basically i'm guessing fear/anxiety/stress is the cause for mine. I've cut out all caffine I don't drink anything other than water. But i'm learning to ignore them even though it's a horrible feeling i'm just hoping my monitor test comes back good. Now for my questions... -What should I be eating to prevent less attacks? -Also does exercise kind of help these or make them worse? -I am getting a prescription for toprol 25 mg..does this help anxiety? I think it makes less adrenaline go to the heart? and also the doctor said he only wants me on it for 6 months to see how i'm doing and i'm guessing thats because i'm only 17 and it could have some long term effects on my heart but I hear that stopping a beta-blocker can increase the amount of attacks? So i'm a little sketchy on taking this just need some advice from someone that takes it. Well thanks for the posts guys and good health to all of you and be safe.
 
  Skippy heart  Posted: 27/08/2008 22:27
Carol, All cardiologists I have visited in the past asked me whether I get blackouts with my palpitations. Blackout is possible, but in not a common symptom. Personally I don't them. I think is worth mentioning it to your doctor the episode you had. good luck Skippy Heart
 
  Eve  Posted: 28/08/2008 08:16
Hi Skippy and all, perhaps it is a comment on modern life that we're stressed with so many demands on our time that it feels normal for our minds but our bodies rebel and the total relaxation of a holiday - which is not normal for our daily lives feels normal for our bodies.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 29/08/2008 02:57
I just came across this thread - don't have time to read it all but judging by a search of the site, Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) hasn't been mentioned. As the name suggests, it involves the heart beating fast (tachycardia) which can feel like palpitations. Here's a quick definition: "The hallmark symptom of POTS is an increase in heart rate from the supine to upright position of more than 30 beats per minute or to a heart rate greater than 120 beats per minute within 10 minutes of head-up tilt. This tachycardic response is often accompanied by a profound decrease in blood pressure and a wide variety of symptoms associated with hypotension including: lightheadedness, sometimes called pre-syncope (pre-fainting) dizziness (but not vertigo, which is also called dizziness) exercise intolerance extreme fatigue syncope (fainting)" It can be tested for using a tilt table test or perhaps by a "cheap test" by a doctor asking you to stand. I'm familiar with it as I have ME or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and a lot of people I know have POTS associated with their condition (I've never been tested). And the problem with ME or CFS is that the advice that is sometimes given for POTS, to try to stay fit etc, can be counterproductive in ME or CFS. Anyway perhaps others will write more or it has been mentioned.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 29/08/2008 19:32
Following on from my last message (29/08/2008 02:57), I'm interested about places where one can have tilt testing in Ireland, both for myself and others that I might come across. I had a tilt table test done in the Mater Private about a decade ago but it was unsatisfactory as they didn't measure my heart rate (just my blood pressure) so couldn't test for POTS. Also they didn't do the second or third stage of the tilt table testing (not always used perhaps), where they inject isoproterenol if the first stage is normal. Other places I've heard about are: James Street Hospital, Tallaght Hospital (heard about it around a decade ago - are they still doing it there?) and the Mid-Western Hospital in Dooradoyle, Limerick. Anyone know any more or have information about waiting lists? For example, the place in the Mid-Western Hospital mainly seems to be for geriatric patients - the only two people I know who went, went privately - will they accept referrals for children and adults on the public system?
 
  vani  Posted: 03/09/2008 04:06
Hello. For the past three months I have been experiencing random palpatations that scare me to death. I first started having terrible stabbing like chest pain and went to the doctors, did an ekg, chest x-rays etc... all came back good. doctor came to the conclusion i had gerd. first gave me pepcid which didnt help, then prilosec which did help relieve the pain. while taking these drugs I started experiencing frequent palps. I had then in the past but very rarely, now I get them almost every day. could this be a side effect of the medication can anyone relate? also does aloe vera help GERD symptoms?
 
  Andrew(UHA74743)  Posted: 04/09/2008 02:05
Hello all! I stumbled upon this site a couple weeks ago and am gratefull for all of the input. About two months ago, I awoke in the middle of the night with panic attack. I was not having any nightmares, but when I awoke I was sweating and my heart was racing. I also noticed that my heart was skipping a beat occasionally. I have had panic attacks in the past (although not for about 7 years) so I just put it off as anxiety. Well, a couple of weeks later I was having several skipped beats in a row so I went to the ER to have it checked out. They hooked me up to an EKG and saw that I was having PVCs, but they told me that it was "normal" and that I was going to be fine. He refered me to a cardiologist who also said I was fine and gave me a perscription for Atenolol 25mg (which I haven't tried taking yet). I don't really like the idea of having to take perscription drugs as I am only 23 and am not overweight. I also do not smoke, drink caffeine or alcohol at all. Over the past month my heart palpitations have increased. I regularly have several hundered "skipped beats" every day, although they are usually worse in the late afternoon/ evening. I have tried a few different "natural" remedies that have been posted on this site. A couple weeks ago I started taking Aloe Juice (the inner fillet) and magnesium powder and my heart palpitations went away completely only two days after taking the juice. This was a remarkable change as only one day before I was having hundreds of PVCs. I had no palpitations for a few days, then slowly I began getting more and more until about a week later I felt the same as I did before. I was wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same effect from the aloe? Is it possible for your body to build up an immunity to it? For the last week or so, I have not taken the magnesium, but I have started taking the aloe gel tablets. Those helped reduce the intensity of the palpitations, but the frequency is still there. I also started taking the aloe gel straigt (again the inner fillet gel) about 3 days ago, but I have not noticed much of a difference. I have also been taking some mangosteen juice as Nick recommended (the brand is called "Alive" so I don't know if its the right kind or not). Anyway, sorry for the long post. I am just going through a tough time right now and needed to vent. If anyone out there has had a similar experience, or knows of anything that might help, please let me know.
 
  dave  Posted: 07/09/2008 20:42
I have been taking the Aloe Gels 25mg from wal-mart (i am in america) for nearly a year now. They saved my life. If you are having palpitations, you have got to try Aloe. The doctors told me nothing was wrong.... that doesn't keep you from thinking you are about to die. Seriously run, don't walk - go get aloe
 
  Coby  Posted: 12/09/2008 03:41
First to Kitty, thank you so much:) There seem to be so many variations on 'palpitations'. A lot of the experiences mentioned I cannot relate to, but some I can. I know I come from a family of 'worriers', and I wonder if anyone else considers this an issue? I have to say, since finding fellow sufferers and reading over and over that it is basically not life threatening, I have had fewer attacks. It's wonderful. A couple of times I have felt my heart trying to 'race' and I have talked myself out of it developing. Not always successful, but it would seem for me, at least some of the time this is related to my anxiety disorder as a panic attack. Like many posters, I am pretty much caffine free, I only drink water....I definately have room for improvement though in my diet and weight. I've not taken any drugs for this, but it's not an option right now anyway as I am breast-feeding. Thank goodness though, that since looking at this site, they have decreased significantly. Why is it, that so many of us experience these sensations at bed time? If this is stress related, why do I find that as I lay down to sleep my heart begins to increase or I wake with the horrible sensation? I don't feel stress *until* my heart races.
 
  Gizmo  Posted: 25/09/2008 15:19
Hi there everyone, I have been suffering from missed heart beats for about a month. I have gone through so much mentally, I truelly believed that I was going to die and that had brought way to panic attacks. I am dealing with those however I am still getting dizzy everytime I have a skipped heart beat. These are happening everyday throughout the day. Is that normal? I have an irregular heart beat and a heart murmer could this be causing them? I am still awaiting the results to my echo and 24 hr trace...
 
  Nick  Posted: 25/09/2008 18:37
Hi Gizmo, We all know what you are going through. You won't die from this.. .though that is no help to you at this point because you are in the initial stages of FRIGHT/Anxiety! You have a ton of reading to do. It's all been said here and I am confident you will find relief from the text here. But you must go back... WAY back and read the experiences for yourself. There are some things you can do to stop palps. But you have to care enough to invest the time reading it. Nick.
 
  Anonymous   Posted: 15/10/2008 14:00
Has anyone had a loop recorder fitted to detect heart palpitations that dont show up on ECG.
 
  Marsi  Posted: 16/10/2008 17:35
I suffered palpitations since childhood. Nobody took me seriously. It turned out after many scares that I have a problem called 'Sick Sinus Syndrome' which means the tiny bunch of nerves that govern and regulate the heart beat is inefficient. After a serious collapse in 1992 I was given a 'pace-maker' to prevent my heart rate going below an acceptable limit. I also need to take a 'Beta-Blocker' to control the heart rate on the upper level. I am now on my 3rd pace-maker. I sympathise with anyone going through this. Press on for the help you need.
 
  aburst  Posted: 17/10/2008 09:34
is it possible to gain weight?with palpitations even thou you eat healty as i am having an opperation to stop them as i get them everyday and find them hard to live with
 
  Andrew(UHA74743)  Posted: 24/10/2008 21:43
Hello everyone! It has been a month or so since my last post. My PVCs have continued more or less unabated since then. I have had a few nice "breaks" where the PVCs magically disappeared for a couple days, only to return again. I have continued to take 2oz. of aloe vera gel twice a day, with limited results. I have also been doing research online and I found an interesting article published in a medical journal. Aparently, the person did a study using Taurine and L-arginine to cure PVCs, PACs, and other arathmias. I have yet to try this myself as I have only recently discovered this potential breakthrough. The study was conducted on older folks (55 - 80) who were having several thousand PVCs/PACs a day. I am only 23, so I don't know if I am suffering from a different condition, but nonetheless, it seems to be worth a shot. Has anyone else on here heard or, or tried, using Taurine and L-arginine for heart palpitations? Nick, you seem to have done the most research on this page, have you ever heard of this? If so, please post your experience. Here is the abstract from the article: Summary We searched for nutrient deficiencies that could cause cardiac arrhythmias [premature atrial contractions 12 (PACs), premature ventricular contractions (PVCs), atrial fibrillation, and related sinus pauses], and found literature 13 support for deficiencies of taurine and L-arginine. Case histories of people with very frequent arrhythmias are 14 presented showing 10–20 g taurine per day reduced PACs by 50% and prevented all PVCs but did not prevent pauses. 15 Adding 4–6 g of L-arginine immediately terminated essentially remaining pauses and PACs, maintaining normal cardiac 16 rhythm with continued treatment. Effects of taurine useful in preventing arrhythmias include regulating potassium, 17 calcium and sodium levels in the blood and tissues, regulating excitability of the myocardium, and protecting against 18 free radicals damage. Taurine restored energy and endurance in one of the cases from a debilitated status to normal. 19 Arrhythmias may also respond to taurine because it dampens activity of the sympathetic nervous system and dampens 20 epinephrine release. L-arginine may have anti-arrhythmic properties resulting from its role as a nitric oxide (NO) 21 precursor and from its ability to restore sinus rhythm spontaneously. Endogenous production of taurine and L-arginine 22 may decline in aging perturbing cardiac rhythm, and these ‘‘conditional’’ essential nutrients therefore become 23 ‘‘essential’’ and require supplementation to prevent morbidity and mortality. L-arginine is hypothesized to prevent 24 cardiac arrhythmias by NO stabilization of the sinus node. Cardiac arrhythmias having no known cause in otherwise 25 healthy people are hypothesized to be symptoms of deficiencies of taurine and arginine. The rest of the article can be found at this link: http://george-eby-research.com/html/taurine-l-arginine-arrhythmias.pdf Hope this helps! If anyone does try this treatment, please post your results!
 
  Nick  Posted: 28/10/2008 17:18
Hello Andrew, Sorry for the book... but there is a lot to cover... Yes... I have heard of uses of Taurine and Argenine to help prevent palps or arrhythmias. I plan to do some more research into this. I have other news too. Here in Vancouver, BC a family recently took their two young boys to the doctor. Both boy were quite sick with all kinds of problems including both had arrhythmia to one degree or another. They are family friends. They are vegetarians for the most part but eat lots of fish. I've suspected fish for a couple of years now but after the results of this family's visits to the doctor, I am convinced that NO SEA FOOD IS SAFE! The kids had blood work done and they were both high in mercury! I've been following the study of that mountain of garbage that is floating around the pacific ocean. It was measured to be three times the size of the state of Texas! Much of it is plastic! The early scientific reports on this floating mountain are that the plastics are breaking down in the sunlight and with exposure to salt water and other elements. The breakdown particulate matter appears to marine life to be "FISH FOOD"! This has a grievous consequence since much of the plastic is industrial plastic that formerly contained pesticides and chemicals (like mercury!!!). The result is that the fish are eating this stuff and it is now well into that food chain. The two young boys had no other exposure to mercury. The parents also had high levels of mercury but did not exhibit the same symptoms. The doctor told them to switch to something else... no more sea food. I've tested sea food off and on over the past two years. Each time I consume fish or fish oils I get palps within a few days. Next... you should Google the term Dr. James Lavalle. He is a pharmacologist and nutritional scientist. You'll find a link to brightcove dot com where he has some videos of his lectures to other doctors in the areas of nutrition. He is the MOST knowledgeable resource I have ever found. I rand out and purchased his book, "Cracking the Metabolic Code". In that book he talks about Taurine and Argenine quite a bit. Also, he talks about chocolate. There is a substance in chocolate that is bad for dogs. Its called "theobromine". It digests in humans and broken down into a derivative of caffeine and other chemicals. Import to note is that some of the digestive results render a chemical that causes arrythmia! It has an antagonizing affect on the vegas nerve which, I believe, in some sensitive people will result in what we call palps. These are the ones who get palps when they bend over, or lay on their left side, or twist their bodies too sharply. As a methylated xanthine, theobromine is a potent Cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) phosphodiesterase inhibitor; this means that it helps prevent the enzyme phosphodiesterase from converting the active cAMP to an inactive form. cAMP works as a second messenger in many hormone- and neurotransmitter-controlled metabolic systems, such as the breakdown of glycogen. When the inactivation of cAMP is inhibited by a compound such as theobromine, the effects of the neurotransmitter or hormone which stimulated the production of cAMP are much longer lived. The net result is generally a stimulatory effect. While theobromine and caffeine are similar in that they are related alkaloids, theobromine is weaker in both its inhibition of cyclic nucleotide phosphodiesterases and its antagonism of adenosine receptors. Therefore, theobromine has a lesser impact on the human central nervous system than caffeine. However, theobromine stimulates the heart to a greater degree. While theobromine is not as addictive, it has been cited as possibly causing addiction to chocolate. Theobromine has also been identified as one of the compounds contributing to chocolate's reputed role as an aphrodisiac. As it is a myocardial stimulant as well as a vasodilator, it increases heartbeat, yet it also dilates blood vessels, causing a reduced blood pressure. However, a recent paper published suggested that the decrease in blood pressure may be caused by flavanols. This is not an excuse to run out and study chocolate ladies! But a word of warning. To those of us who are otherwise strong and healthy, we are sensitive to the chemicals we ingest or create through digestion. Nick
 
  flippy flop  Posted: 04/11/2008 13:29
I'm a 62 YO female in good health - a U.S. citizen. I've had heart palps for the last 3 years on a regular basis. They are continual and nagging all day, every day. I had a complete heart workup two years ago and the dx was PVCs. I was put on Atenolol and sent home rather puzzled, since my cardiologist seemed totally unconcerned. Living with these things is driving me crazy. I'm assuming I'd be dead by now if they were life threatening, but I'm wondering at what point in my life these things will become worrisome to any medical professionals. I cannot imagine a 75 year old having these palps and being ignored by their docs. Also, Nick or George - I'm sure that you've done this a million times, but would you please itemize the remedies that have worked for you. I take aloe vera gel caps twice a day. The palps are better when I do take them, but they plague me still. I realize that you two have done much research on the subject and value your opinions immensely. Thanks in advance for indulging me with your recommended remedies.
 
  Nick  Posted: 04/11/2008 21:14
Hi Flippy Flop; I've been researching this issue since 2003. To make a long story short, I'll itemize my findings. 1. Aloe Gel - I found that cap are not really enough. I bought aloe gel by the gallon. I would drink 2 ounce in the morning and 2 ounces at dinner time. 2. DISCONTINUE ALL FISH PRODUCTS! - Some people will be alarmed at this warning but just recently I spoke with a local family whose two boys were quite sick. The family was mostly vegetarian but did eat a lot of fish. The test results were that the children had mercury poisoning! The massive pile of garbage and plastics that is floating out in the middle of the pacific ocean is polluting the entire oceanic food chain. It's three times the size of Texas! No Oceanic food is safe. 3. Eliminate sugar: The inflammatory diseases that are building in your system are fueled by sugar. You must take yourself off things like Chocolate, sugar in tea or coffee, baked sweets, cakes, donuts, etc... 4. Lastly, reduce wheat products. Have yogurt and nuts or seed like sunflower seed, pumpkin seeds and sesame seeds. Having a wheat breakfast sets you up for a really rotten day! Chocolate contains a chemical called Theobromine". This is the element that kills dogs. Humans are said to be able to digest it just fine. However, I suspect it affects the vegas nerve and palps. If you do all of the above, you should feel a lot better in two days. I'm unable to post the full story in interest of bandwidth. Email me if you wish to read the full story. nick at lucidboomer dot com
 
  TAFF  Posted: 24/11/2008 01:14

Hi, Im a 26yo male from Wales, had my first papl about 3 years ago. back then i smoked 20+ a day, they would normally last about a minute then just dissapear. during that minute i would feel a liitle faint but it didnt seem to bother me. About two yers ago i was driving to work when a palp came on, it didnt worry me to start but it didnt go away like the others after a minute this one stayed. I pulled over and lay down on the grass on the side of the road it felt as if my heart was trying to beat out of my chest, think i was up to 200+ bpm! I called myself an ambulance and my palps only stopped after they injected me with a beta blocker. After that day every palp i get now make me think im gonna die its the scariest thing ever. Ive been for tests and the doc said i was ok, stopped smoking straight away after that still drink a bit more than i should but i try and keep fit. A few months ago i was at work and i had another palp attack and it lasted about 2 mins, i started to think what bought it on and the only thing i could think of was coffee. The first major palp i had was after drinking a large coffe and another i had on holiday happened again after coffee. So far so good! I still think my heart is faulty but i think its all mental, its very hard to stop thinking about my palps but it will take time. The worst thing is though is when you think you have forgot about them and your cured and then bang out of nowhere a palp kicks in, and then its back to square one. Well thats it really keep leaving your posts its good to know im not alone in this. Hope this helps cheers.

 
  Marsi  Posted: 24/11/2008 17:03

TAFF

It's possible to have a a long term heart monitor. Ask your cardiologist as the palps are so irregular they are not easily tracked down. But insist. This is not mental. Don't buy into this.

 
  HeartyPalps  Posted: 07/12/2008 04:34

I live in the U.S. I too suffer from heart palpitations, and they seemed to have increased dramatically after I discontinued birth control. I had all tests necessary by my cardiologists, blood work checked, thyroid, you name it. On a recent visit to my gyno, he said he never heard of anyone getting heart palps after quitting the pill. I beg to differ because hundreds of women have reported this same problem on many sites. I told my doctor that I did not want to get on any anti-anx med to control this. I asked him if he knew of any homeopathic type remedies, he simply told me to find some quiet time, breathe in deeply, hold my breath for a few seconds and breathe out as if I were blowing out a candle. Everytime I feel the palps starting, I do this and they go away. Yes, they do come back, but the breathing exercises seem to make them stop cold turkey. I read that magnesium supplements work. I purchased some and they have subsided; this was before the breathing exercises. So my advice, magnesium and breathing exercises. Remember after u take a deep breath and hold, breathe out as if you are blowing out a candle. One other note, I read online that many of us are magnesium deficient (especially exercisers,athletes) and we don't know it, blood tests won't show it, however, tissiue samples do....homeopathic clinics do this. Magnesium supplements seem to do the trick to make them subside...google: heart palpitations magnesium supplements. Good luck everyone, we will get through this, one of us will find the magic key to solve this nagging mystery..as soon as someone finds it let us all know!!!

Cheers from America!!

 
  Jeremiah  Posted: 25/12/2008 19:26

Im 25 years old and I work as a paramedic in Canada. Before July 31st of 2008 I was a healthy guy. I dont drink Caffeine coke or coffee (although i used to drink coke like water) Non smoker, and i eat very little fast food. I lifted weights 4 days a week on some pretty intense programs and took Protein shakes religiously. I ran all the time, whether it be Sprints, jogging or aggresive runs for conditioning. I play hockey, Roller Hockey, Rugby and broomball I also coach football.I drink occasionally but not often. Dont do drugs and never really was into them. I never ever had a problem with my heart, I had a resting heart rate in the 50's and rarely ever got tired during aggressive exercise. The only real health issue for me was Migraine headaches where I would get bad bad Nausea, I tried many different drugs for Migraines and nothing would work. I was put on Inderal @ 60mg (which is a slow release beta Blocker) for prevention of migraines 2 years ago. It has worked well most of the time, i still get the odd migraine but not as often as before. My Grandpa 87 years old is on Warfarin and is a permanent A fib for the last 30 years.My uncle who is 56 years old of that side has runs of Afib and is also on Warfarin for the last few years. Well on July 31st I went for a jog in the heat, and had a regualr physical with my GP. Everything was fine. I was out in the sun all afternoon painting a table and came in about supper time and had a shower. After the shower i just felt tired, but felt fine. I randomly checked my pulse like i did all the time and noticed something was different. My heart was slow but very irregular. I had played with 3 lead ecgs at school the previous 4 months and was very aware of different arrythmias. It felt to me like Atrial Fib. So alarmed but not scared i got my stethoscope out and listened to my heart. It was definitely irregular. So i went to the hospital explained what i had found and i was immediatly hooked up to a 12 lead ecg. I was right and i was in A fib with no symptoms at all, no pain, no SOB. So the ER drs advised the best treatment was Cardioversion to get my Heart rhythm back to Bradycardia. They cardioverted me and I have been sinus ever since. Here is the catch though, 3 weeks later i started getting palpitaions. Which turn out to be PAC's. I now get them every day for hours at a time sometimes. I also get some other symptoms that worry me like a tightness in my chest, an ugly feeling sometimes in my chest. Minor pain that may be gastric. I feel like i cant take a deep breath sometimes. I get very very fatigued and cant stay awake sometimes. I get dizzy and feel out of it like im literally drunk or something sometimes. Most people i talk to think its just anxiety that comes back in cycles cause there are good days and bad days. I had an internest test me with an Echo, ECG, Bloodwork, and a holter monitor(had a good day while wearing it). Everything is normal. He said i have no physical heart diesease. That the ectopics are benign. He also thinks it may just be anxiety. He ruled out Thyroid problems, HCM and other diseases. Im going to see a cardiologist(2nd opinion) in a couple weeks and im frustrated. I have no answers. I cant tell if it is just anxiety or something has changed me. I want my old life back, I havent weight trained since. I run and try to play hockey but i just dont feel the same. While im doing exercise i feel great and right after but later on i get spurts of this crap. I dont know what else to do, i keep getting them and they really bother me. But this is my story as i found reading other stories have helped me at times. anybody with suggestions are welcome.

 
  Fooked  Posted: 31/12/2008 06:39

Hi all 23 having what are probabley pvcs for about a year maybe more and to be honest they are ruining my quailty of life for example today well, i mean more tonight ive had one every hour all through the night that have sent me into several panic attacks and now waiting to go to the doc's in the morning to see what the fook he can do, never been to the docters about it but have done enough internet research to know thats probabley what he's going to say, but from reading these articles it sounds like there's nout to be done but change the way your living, which is pants, cause i'm quite fond of the way i live. Truth be told i've been living with the panic attacks since i was 17, do you think the pvcs could be a follow on from strain caused by frequent panic attacks??? Its a terrible thing to have and to live with and it's hard for people to understand whats going on with you, reading these storys has givin me insight into something i did'nt really understand, heart felt sympathy to all off the above people!, If anyone has feedback on treatments i would gladley appreciate it!

 
  mikee1  Posted: 22/02/2009 01:29

hey ...im relieved to have found this site! i suffer palpitations regularly. im 24 and it started bout 2 , 3 years ago! Basically its like a forced heartbeat between beats can be sore at times. But lately i had an episode where it lasted 10-15 mins! lessened to about 1 or 2 every hour. To be honest it scared the life out of me i really thought i was gone ...Got to A&E and surprise every thing checked out alrite. nothing abnormal could be found. bloods checked out grand too. This thing makes me really anxious. i need sedatives to keep me calm when i feel it coming on.....Thanks to this site i feel more reassured from the comments ive read!! Cheers.

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 22/02/2009 20:16

CoolTo the Hearty Palps poster...how many Mgs of Magnesium are you taking? I find that amazing that it helped with the palps... I love the candle blowing breathing business as well.. it works!

I am 61 and have been dianosed twice as A-Fib.. I somehow refuse to buy it. Simply because I have been to a few General Practioners here in New Jersey and not one of them inquired about my diet. Not one. I had to find out on my own...and it wasn't easy because it's in everything.. that I am allergic to Equal. I would take it in tea/coffee ...diet soda..eat diet jello...diet this..diet that and still managed to gain weight! We have it in cereal, candy, cookies, the coating on our Advil, on Claritan for Allergies, you name it. The Equal/Nurtra Sweet/ Spenda all kicks up carb consumption. What a roller coaster. I went off everything and was doing so great.. and then.. had a stick of Orbit sugarless gum and whamo...back into the shortness of breath and weakness. I could barely walk! I called an allergist and asked about a test for this and he said there is none..but what they do is have the patients re-challenge themselves...which I had already done with the gum. Then last week with honey wheat pretzels..it has something called Maltotame.. another word for Equal. Idiots!! This stuff is killing us.. AND our children...AND our senior citizens. Big bucks for big companies

I am so lucky I found out what was giving me these bouts...but no one believes that this is the case. A glazed look of boredom came over my doctors eyes... lol... I only hope they get the chance to experience this one day. DO an internet search...you will see heart problems are a result of this poisoning. How easy it would to wipe out an entire population hooked on this lousy sweetener. It's a slow poison.

I've had this for 4 yrs... and in three days it was all gone? amazing. But I am left A-Fib..and I am terrified. I don't want to do that Coumadin, I just lost an aunt to Coumadin Necrosis. Rare..but nonetheless..she was an Equal fan as well.

Gotta find good sympathetic MD's who know what they are doing.. good luck.. it's all about $$$ here in the States! And they are so afraid of getting sued.. lol.. if they knew what they were doing they wouldn't have to worry..People would be so grateful to be healed!!

PALPITATIONS? Check for artificial sweeteners!!

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 23/02/2009 12:09

Hi brachwalker, great advice. You have probably done this already,but for others whon might be interested, not all artifical sweetners are the same - for example, I am fine when I use sacharin in coffee but have a bad reaction to aspartame (in every squash diet and non-diet on the shelves, except hi-juice varieties) and penyllanline. Honestly, if I can't spell it, I think twice about putting it in my body. I know that sweetners are poison and in hundreds of thousands of people they can tolerate them fine but I am one of those people who has a bad reaction to some sweetners but not others.

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 23/02/2009 17:50

Beachwalker, you're not nuts! Yeah, you do get looked at like you've grown another head when you mention this to anyone, including doctors. I found that my palps are brought on by too much soy, which is in everything. I believe my 'monthly' hormone change also plays a big factor. I tend to get the palps most often during this time - yesterday, for example (10 seconds worth - down from 12-24 hours). I try to watch very carefully what I eat. Also, I am at an age where 'the change' is going to take place. So, I can just imagine my life during this upcoming time. Luckily I have a cardiologist who has a similar problem. He is sympathetic.

I stay away from the fake sugars, too. That is nothing but poison, for sure. Can't get my hubby to stop, though.

I live in the States, as well. I agree there is a huge push for over medicating and keeping us sick for big bucks, here.

 

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 23/02/2009 20:38

To Anonymous: I agree with that! Seems to me... I don't get ballistic from Sweet and Low..the pink pack..but you know what? I am not taking anymore chances. I just went to an Organic Supermarket here in NJ, Whole Foods, and picked up a box of Truvia.. OMG! It's great!! It tastes just like sugar. I was getting so tired of tea and coffee (decaf) without it. I feel normal again! Great looking green and white flip box with strawberry on it.. look for it. You'll get rid of that sacharin fast!

Sffar:. Listen.. make your hubby just TRY the Truvia. I am not sure about Stevia being good or not..this is my first try of sweetness after Equal.. I LOVE this stuff! It's all over our stores now..where are you in the US? I also have a thyroid problem and they said to stay away from Soy.. whatever I do. They also say that it contributes to Bipolar...and my daughter was raised on ProSoBe..a once popular Soy Bean Formula for babies who had allergies to regular formula. Guess what she has... BIP.

I have GOT to do something to stop this Aspartame craze here... There was a coke commercial on the Oscars awards last night.. a new RED can diet coke promoting heart healthy women!! Are they WING NUTS OR WHAT? If this doesn't get you like it got me...pretty fast..it has a cumulative effect and WILL build up in your tissues..and sit and wait till your back is turned..and WHAMO.. it gets you!

You all have GOT to watch this movie on the computer..not a download..just starts up nice:

http://moviesfoundonline.com/sweet_misery.php.

A real eye opener!

 
  Nicole  Posted: 24/02/2009 01:13

Hi All it's been a while since I posted (June 2008). I was about to have a nuclear stress test. I had my test, they saw the PVC's but when they had me on the treadmill at my maximum heart rate they disappeared. My cardiologist said I passed with flying colors. I still have PVC's on a daily basis. Some days are bad some day's are good (They still scare the crap out of me though) I'm really worried about what I read on here that PVC's weaken the heart.

I'm not sure where to start to try and make these things disappear. I guess I could start cutting chocolate out of my diet and drop a few pounds. I quit walking/working out once these things started because I was to scared to and because I quit exercising I gained weight :(

Any other suggestions on where to start besides cutting out chocolate? I don't drink coffee, smoke or drink. Thanks for any suggestions.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 24/02/2009 08:45

Hi SFFAR, if your hubby is not reacting badly to the artificial sweetners then there's probably no need for him to stop as his system is most likely not senstive to them. I have a friend who's the same. I hear ya as regards soy, it's totally contraindicated for me too as I have auto-immiune hypothyroidism which is now thankfully, perfectly mdically managed but soy consumption stiull has the potential to make me very ill. I usually end up shoppign in the same supermarket all the time becuase I am familiar with the contents of all their brands and know which ones to avoid for soy content. With regard to monthly hormone variations over your menstrual cycle, for most women this can be sorted out with the pill (unless you're TTC) - which is probably why women coming off the pill can experience palps. If you're approaching menopause and hence, I'm guessing somewhre in your 50's, then unless it is medically contraindicated, you may well be a suitable candidatefor HRT which should solve the menopausal hormone fluctuations - as well as other unpleasant menopausal symptoms.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 24/02/2009 12:01

Hi Beach walker. Thanks for the advice, but I'm actually back here in Ireland - so Truvia, unfortunately. I don't touch decaf - the decafinating process actually uses a chemcial that is a derivative of dry-cleaning fluid, Tuolene, so I take my chances with caffience :-). It doesn't seem to affect me anyway.., thankfully. Had no idea about the bipolar connection with soy, thanks so much for that. My niece had a baby before Christmas and when she was switched to the non-premie formula she had a reaction to it, so my MIL was suggestion soy-formula!! As for the coke adds - they seem to stop at nothing to make a marketting pitch

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 24/02/2009 12:09

Beachwalker...thanks for the movie. I watched 8 minutes of it before work this morning. I have it saved under favorites to show my hubby tonight. From these 8 minutes, I've got a substantial amount of backup for what I and his doctors have been telling him.

As for the Truvia, nope. I won't do it. It's a chemically rearranged product. I use Stevia because it is from plants. I get it at Whole Foods and I've been switching hubby with his Kool-aid. He doesn't notice it a bit.

Anonymous...everyone wants to give me pills because I'm getting older. I've turned down all suggestions of this and revamped my diet greatly. HRT and BCs are not an option! I have been relatively palp-free since October 2006. Once in a while I'll get an episode which lasts five minutes because I ate something stupid earlier. It's not easy saying 'no' to all the goodies I had eaten before. The effect is definitely cumulative over the years. It will take years to get back to normal.

Take care, all of you.

 
  Fooked  Posted: 24/02/2009 12:36

hey guys, second post after going to the doctor. he medicated me for the panic attacks with lexapro, an anti deprresant, and havent had a pvc since. this could be due to the fact that i think mine were stress related. anyhow things are better and i wish you all the best of luck dealing with them, regards.

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 24/02/2009 22:57

Yikes!!! Now TRUVIA?? Is water (hardly) the ONLY safe thing???

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 25/02/2009 12:35

Hi SSFAR, sorry to hear both hormonal replacement and the OCP are both contraindicated for you. I know this can be the case for smokers and women who's family have a history of certain illnesses so of course it's best to listen to your Dr if she advises against it. Your palps seem to be diet related - mine were medication related!, now, like yours, thankfully resolved. I think it will be interesting to see if they return or disappear completely when I go back on the pill - which I'll need to do around 40-ish anyway.Hey, BeachWalker - maybe the water is safe where you are and it probably is but in Winter especially if we've hd flooding, ours smells like a chemialy disinfected swimming pool!! I always use a water filter for improved taste and when I make tea for the in-laws (we're coffee drinkers) you can actually see the difference in the clarity of the tea, instead of it being a murky colour!

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 25/02/2009 14:18

Hi Anonymous.. you are right about the water.. I use bottled and I try to get glass ones... our water stinks literally in NJ...

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 25/02/2009 14:53

Beachwalker...look at the Truvia website. Tell me what you think after you read the site. Is it natural or not?

I don't know for a fact that this is chemically altered, but I'd lay money on it that it is. With the hullabaloo they had about Splenda being 'from sugar', when, truthfully, it is so far chemically altered from sugar that it can't be classified as a natural item. I don't trust a branded anything anymore.

I watched the movie last night. Hubby watched until he fell asleep. I hope this makes a difference for him. It reinforces everything I've been trying to tell him. Thanks for that. I've passed it on to a few friends. We'll get this spread around.

Take care.

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 25/02/2009 22:49

I DID look at that site.. AND sent them an email.. maybe you can do the same? I rescued my Whole Foods receipt from the trash and it's going back. I bet even THEY don't know...Usually when you send a good comment they answer quickly..these sites..I know this is going to be one where the powers that be walk around trying to figure out how to answer me. AND if they google my name and find out I am a writer? Uh oh.. they'll really go nutty.

Too bad you are over there ...I'd urge you to write to your legislators... we have a new appointment coming up for our FDA here...

That movie WAS interesting wasn't it? Oh..and another thing that was interesting was something I got today from this site I joined.. http://www.realhealthnews.com/dailydose/freecopy.html

All about the AMA and Blood Pressure.. used have guidelines set at 140/90..and that was 6 yrs ago..and now the whacks have it as 115/70..WAY and FAR too low... see if you can drag that up!

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 26/02/2009 13:48

BeachWalker,

I am on your side of the pond on the Southeast Coast. I'll send an e-mail to the site. Tell me about the FDA appointment or give me a link to read. Will it be a House or Senate bill?

Did you know you can buy seeds for Stevia plants? I think you can even buy the plant. I'm going to add this one to my herb garden, hopefully, this year. Until then, I buy plain old, unadulterated Stevia from Whole Foods. Yeah, it's distilled from the plant. On reading the box, there isn't a lot of hype or rigmarole on it. I use the packets for my hubby. Just swap out your Truvia for it.

Keep writing!

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 26/02/2009 14:35

You'd urge me to write to our legislators -- - well if you've been keeping up with the Irish news, maybe you haven't but the idea of legislators here actually doing something based on a letter from a concerned citizen is actually hilarious - seriously.

The guidelines for blood pressure here is 120/80, has been right since the 70's or maybe even further back.

115/70 sounds very low, ok maybe for a marathon runner or extremely fit athlete but low blood presure brings its own problems and can be harder to correct than high blood pressure. Which makes me wonder, what are the guidelines for cholesterol for you guys. Not LDL/HDL but just the number? And blood sugar? Just interested in how these things differ.

 
  newdoc17  Posted: 27/02/2009 15:39

A little note to everyone who is suffering palpitations, and can't figure out what is triggering them...check to see if they are related to TEA. Not coffee, TEA.

Coffee, of course, has much higher doses of CAFFEINE than tea...but TEA (and pure cocoa) have THEOBROMINE and THEOPHILLINE - two other stimulants that are NOT present in coffee (look it up and see).

Theobromine and theophilline are "methylxanthines" that are often considered to be weaker stimulants than caffeine, but that is NOT true for all people. Some people dont' "process" these stimulants, so are more greatly affected by them. These stimulants are very toxic to dogs - that is why dark chocolate is so toxic to dogs.

Apparently some people (like me!) don't break these down well (okay, I guess I am like my dog!), and tea and dark chocolate can give palpitations, while caffeine doesn't necessarily give palpitations.

 
  newdoc17  Posted: 27/02/2009 16:02

Oh my goodness, please don't ANYONE worry that a blood pressure of 115/70 is "too low"!! That would be a very nice mid-range blood pressure! It is absolutely FINE (for a person who is not taking blood pressure-lowering medications) to have a blood pressure even much lower than that - great down to 100/60! Many normal people have blood pressure that low, or even lower, and are simply doing a nice vigorous rapid walk 30-45 minutes per day - certainly not a "marathon runner" regimen!

Of course, if a person has a history of stroke, or serious vascular problems, and their blood pressure is too low, they can have symptoms - but that is something they should be discussing with their doctors!

Normal people, however, who take no medications to lower their blood pressure, and have no symptoms of hypotension (low blood pressure) shouldn't needlessly worry themselves!

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 02/03/2009 09:26

Hi Newdoc, I stand corrected so - I would have thought 100/60 was dangerously low. By the way I work out five times a week 50 mins cardio X 4 + 1 hour swimming & weights and myblood pressure has never dipped below 120 or 121 over 80 or 79. That's regardlss of my weight

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 04/03/2009 18:08

OK.. this is to SFFAR:... I got a reply from the folks at TRUVIA.. let me know what you think and how I should (if even bother to) reply!!

Here ya go:

Good Morning,

Thank you for your email in regards to Truvia Natural Sweetener. The ingredients in Truvia are Rebiana, which is a high purity extract derived from the leaves of the stevia plant. It has a sweetness potency approximately 200 times greater than that of sugar. The erythritol is added to the rebiana as a bulking ingredient to help add the right amount of Truvia to foods and beverages. Erythritol is naturally found in fruits such as grapes and pears. The natural flavors contain a proprietary flavor system that do not contain any of the major known food allergens such as, wheat soy, milk, eggs, peanuts, tree nuts, fish or shellfish. Truvia is caffeine free, gluten free, does not contain MSG and is safe for diabetics. Please visit our website for more information.

Thank you

Truvia Customer Service

www.truvia.com

 
  kazak  Posted: 04/03/2009 19:17

hello, ive been suffering from ectopic beats for the past 2 months which i think may be down to a mvp or an electrical disfunction. can either of these problems contribute to a physical anxious/tight feeling which is felt in my chest and only developed after the palps started?

regards

 
  Lou  Posted: 05/03/2009 13:21

I was diagnosed with a murmur when I was quite young. I regularly get palpitations, not necessarily in times of stress or physical exertion, sometimes they just come on me all of a sudden. At times they are so bad I feel like I need to swallow really hard just to keep my heart in my chest!

 
  Jess  Posted: 05/03/2009 16:22

This question is for Nick, Two ounces three time a day of Alo gel is not working for me, but taking Four to Six Ounces three time a day works fine for me. The question is, is it healthy to take this much?

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 05/03/2009 16:44

Lou....sounds like that LAF to me... I'm no doctor but I think I may have it too. I had an attack today of racing heart...pulse...sick to my stomach.. light headed... lasted about a half an hour...then as quick as it came, it left. There is a site by some man named Larson I think... I will look it up and post it. He has some great recommendations for supplements one should take...and what to do in the middle of an 'attack'.  Have you even been diagnosed with A-Fib?

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 05/03/2009 16:45

...and... stress seems to kick it up... big time.

 
  Nick  Posted: 05/03/2009 20:35

Hi Jess,

That much won't hurt you.  Remember.. it is a food.  In the drug form (ie GAS-X) you might have some issues.  But this does tell us one very important thing.  Your issues are directly related to your digestive processes.  You have way too much inflammation happening.

You should be taking Probiotics (minimum 12 Billion cells), turmeric powder, stay off all fish products, stay away from MSG (Chinese food) and eat foods of a more natural source.  Processed foods are not good.  They taste great.. but will not help you.

Once you get your diet under control, you will be fine.  I've said it before here over the years... be particular about what kind of wine you drink too.  Cheap ones tend to have chemically induced aging.  Metasodium bisulfate is what they use and it is an antagonist to this condition.  

Finally, make sure you take a good multi-vitamin and get some extra chelated magnesium.  I take an extra 1000 mg per day.  I've been palp free for nearly two years.    An I had them three or four times a day for 3 years!

Nick.

nickatlucidboomerdotcom

 
  kazak  Posted: 06/03/2009 22:57

For Jeremiah (25/12/2008)

I read your comment and I'm in a very similar position to yours. If you are reading this could you give an update on how you are doing since?

 
  Jess  Posted: 07/03/2009 06:28

Thanks Nick, I will do that. Also I have hard time staying a sleep, I wake up every three to four hours and some nights I can not go back to sleep.

 
  luna  Posted: 07/03/2009 20:03

hi there

heart palps can also be caused by an irregular rhythm

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 09/03/2009 16:30

BeachWalker...thanks for the info. I appreciate it. I may try the Truvia for my hubby if it becomes necessary. I still don't like the idea of a chemist adding stuff to food. Otherwise, Whole Foods has the stevia here. But I'll be more likely to trust Truvia after your information. Like I said, I'm going to try to scare up some stevia seeds to plant.

I wouldn't bother replying to the manufacturer. I think that would be enough information. The only question I would have, if I did, is if the erythritol (sp?) is chemically manufactured or if it is naturally extracted.

I'd like to take time to mention to those who are newer here than I am, Nick is a good guy. Listen to him.

 
  Jeremiah  Posted: 09/03/2009 16:52

Hey Kazak

I had my 2nd opinion In Jan. He was the best Cardiologist Where I live. He did an assessment and listened to all my complaints. Great bedside manner. He assured me once again that they are in fact harmless IF all the right screening has been done. He said he was going tolook back in my tests and verify we didnt miss anything. He went over my holter, ECG, bloodwork and echo and everything was normal. I had another thyroid test done just to make sure. Everything is normal in there books. He also made an interesting comment I thought where he said even if there is something underlying we may never find it or it may not come out for years so stop trying to find something wrong. I have also try to stop check my pulse as much as it just dumps adrenaline and everything gets intesified. I still have good days and bad days. I caught them on a 3 lead ecg the other day at work for the first time and they are PAC's which are less harmfull then PVC/PJC's. I actually get 2 different kind of PAC's. Its really wierd but Im finally beleiving im not having little runs of Afib. It really in some way has to be related to indigestion or something. I take the odd Gavisgon but i dont feel i want that to be the solution all the time. I get allot of acid reflex especially with fatty salty foods. I have started to alter my diet even better then before and I am going to try to eat allot of prebiotic yogurt and breads now.

I have done some weight training in the last couple months and im back jogging and playing sports. I actually played well in a big tourny last weekend in Hockey and felt great. But im not through it yet and I guess im kind of resolved that I may have this the rest of my life. My anxiety levels have dropped substantially but i still get frustrated. But im working through it the best I can. Any advice or info from anyone is helpful. This site is my fallback right now because I often start feeling sorry for myself because im only 25 and should be in my prime physically but i feel old and damaged. I often wonder why me ? But when i see there are others out there it puts me in perspective. AND the biggest thing i fall back on is There are MANY MANY worse things out there and this is liveable. Hope this helps

Jeremy

 
  kazak  Posted: 10/03/2009 23:44

To Jeremiah

Thanks for response. i too have been suffering from pvcs/pacs for the past two months. Im 20 and feel like this has knocked me on the head. i have worn holter monitor and had ecgs which show my heart is fine, and the ectopic beats which have appeared have been diagnosed as benign. Yet, i dont feel right and often feel weak, sometimes as though my legs are going to buckle and cause me to collapse. I reglarly exercise and have continued to do so after these started. However, I find that they disappear for the rest of the day following exercise but come back as strong the next day. I too get that weird feeling in my chest which my doctor puts down to anxiety, but im not too sure, i have been feeling very anxious since this happened but cant figure if the anxiety is a direct result of the skipped beats or vice versa. Mine are impossible to predict and usually happen out of nowhere while Im at rest and geneally when Im NOT stressed or worried about anything. I have a lot of things happen in the past, family issues etc, and feel that maybe this could have built up in my system over the years and this is how my body is reacting, but im not too sure its just my hypothesis. You say that you are a paramedic, which I imagine can be stressful, do you think this may have contibuted to an onset of palps which you have. My doctor may be putting me on some form of anxiety medication but im not too sure if this will helpful regarding ectopics. I have also been researching beta blockers but apparently thay are only helpful in controlling low/high pulse rate and are ineffective in dealing with skipped beats, what do you think on these? i also have good and bad days... a good day would be one or two while a bad day could be eighty or ninty. Do you think the number you get has decreased since thay began? I often pray that mine will disappear as quickly as they started but am not too sure if this will happen. Sometimes, friends and family don't understand what its like (i would have been the same 2 and a half months ago) but is re-assuring to be able to talk to you and others who are in the same position. I Feel it help a lot. Peace.

 
  Jeremiah  Posted: 11/03/2009 17:11

Kazak

You are not alone lol

I hate that i feel different at times, but I have tried just to accept that I may never go back to how i was.

When i work out i usually feel good as long as Im getting my HR up. Usually after a good run or a Hockey game i feel great but they do reappear a few hours later. When i rest or sleep i rarely get them which is wierd because i see others have the oppposite effect.

The wierd feeling i get sometimes in my chest is similair to Gastric feelings. My Dr also stated it was likely anxiety but Ive come to the opinion that Drs may not fully understand as they dont suffer from them or at least none that ive met.

I always had anxiety my whole life, even as a kid. My mom had it bad when i was young and I beleive its mostly enviromental but there has to be some genetics involved there to. But my anxiety level went through the roof after my Cardioversion and it lowered weeks after. But then the palps started 3 weeks after and It went even higher. It has slowly decreased to the point now where i dont get all worked up like I did. I didnt want to go on Ativan or anything else as I wanted to deal with this on my own. Im still working through it but the worst part is the OCD checking of my pulse all the time even when I know whats happening. Yep there just palps same as always but i just cant get over it lol So the palps are causing my anxeity but I too also questioned if a lifetime of minor anxeity has caused this. Or Alcohol or intense training in the heat (Football, Runs, Sports) Or Over running, or lack of sleep. Gaining weight after high school and then dropping 35 lbs in 3 months or Protein shakes and heavy weight training to put on good weight. I dunno, there are so many things I have done over my life that may have contributed. But at the same time This may just be another genetic thing and no matter what i did it was going to happen to me.

I also enjoy talking on this site, it helps . Later

 
  jevans  Posted: 30/03/2009 03:35

Hi. I just joined your group after stumbling around looking for answers on HP's. I'm sorry to repeat what so many others have already said, but.... I can't believe there are so many others like me...

I started having them around 1996 after my Dad passed away. Panic attacks also started. The first HP was so strong that I thought my heart was coming through my chest. No pain, just thump-thump bang! Then had "mild" ones every day thereafter.

Few weeks later went to Dr. and he had me wear halter monitor. Guess what, no HP that day.

Said it was stress. Prescribed Ativan. Helped a little with the panic attacks. The HP's stayed with me over the years with the occasional severe one. I started to suspect alcohol as a trigger for both HP & panic. In 2006 I did Atkins diet and lost 50lbs. Did not drink alcohol at all for almost 6 months and felt good.

My Mom passed away in November 2007 and I went off diet, ate what I wanted and drank. Now have bloat on top of anxiety and HP.

Originally, the HP's would bother me for weeks at a time, then go away for about three weeks then return. When their bad, they occur (on avg.) about 4-5 per minute. Then nothing for a few minutes, then maybe a few every couple of minutes.

Last month, they disappeared for two solid weeks. What sweet relief. Now their back again and just this last week I have been bloated for hours at a time. I do know that when I belch, the pressure and HP go away for a little bit. Acid-reflux? But when I am bloated, I can't belch for anything. Antacids (gas-x) help a little.

Candida maybe? Did spit test in the glass and it was positive. I'm confused, worried, baffled, you name it.

Funny thing is that last week was bad with HP and bloat. I needed a few hours of "relief" so I had a few drinks Saturday to see what would happen and as I suspected, the alcohol relieved every symptom, especially the bloat and HP. About an hour after I stopped drinking the HP's returned.

I also noticed that I do not get the HP while sleeping. When I wake up in the morning, I am okay. Is it possible that they are ALL anxiety related? I am a worrier, especially about the HP's.

I'm sure you've heard this story before but now I have to research HERE on some remedies.

Thanks for the great site.

 
  Jeremiah  Posted: 30/03/2009 16:34

Jevans

Check into taking some magneisuim supplements or google it. I am currently trying it as I think it is my cause

 
  KatieRoo  Posted: 09/04/2009 02:29

This was me a year ago.  For two years I suffered palpitations (PVCs) every 3 to 6 beats, mixed in with severe episodes of night time tachycardia. Complete work ups, several trips to ER, stress tests, echos, blood work, nothing.  All normal.  Told to try to live with it. I was offered beta blockers.  But I didn't want to treat the symptoms, I wanted to find the reason.

Finally, an endocrinologist traced the problem to something called Hashimoto's (autoimmune low thyroid), but not even very low. Not low according to the standards. Actually pretty normal.  Anyhow, the point is, the Hashi's is an autoimmune illness. When you're having an undetected autoimmune response for years, it taxes the adrenal glands.  So he tested my adrenals (AM Cortisol test) and bingo, that was the problem.  Here is what I learned.

Mildly low cortisol (nothing that registers unusual on tests) can make the body use its backup system in response to stress. Guess what that is? Adrenalin. My AM cortisol was 11 and 13. Doc likes to see it between 16-22.  They don't tell you anything is wrong with you until it is like below 4, and then you have full blown Addison's Disease.  ANYHOW

He put me on a dessicated adrenal gland supplement just to make up for what my body wasn't making, and literally that same day my palpitations went away, and for days I just slept and slept like a baby. But a good sleep, like I hadn't had in a long time.  I guess the adrenalin stopped coursing through my veins.

After a few months on that, he started me on the thyroid replacement meds.  He said if adrenals are fatigued, you must treat them first before thyroid to avoid an adrenal crisis.  Now I'm pretty much palpitation and tachycardia free.  I still get them around my period, but I don't even care.   I also am soooo much more relaxed, more like my old self.  I'm going places and doing things again, and I laugh a lot. I had started to develop phobias and panic attacks, and avoided movies or going out. I'm sure you can relate. When your heart isn't beating right, it is hard to act normal.

After my thyroid levels are completely normal, the autoimmune symptoms should calm way down. They already are heading in that direction. Then my adrenals can heal and I can come off the adrenal support, hopefully with no palps. 

So I would encourage anyone suffering from these dibilitating palps, to go to a really great endocrinologist, someone willing to treat subclinical adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism. Have then run AM Cortisol. If you're on the lower end of the spectrum, something is taxing your adrenals. Find out what it is: maybe Hashi's or another autoimmune illness, or an undetected infections etc. Get the adrenal support you need, and take care of the underlying problem, and hopefully the palpitations will go away.  Best of luck to you. I feel your pain, truly.

THere are charts online for charting your body temperature several times a day as a way to tell if you're having adrenal fatigue issues or thyroid issues. You could start this right away while you're waiting for your endo appt. Adrenal fatigue your body temp is all over the place, and low thyroid only it is generally just low.

ONE MORE THING -- sugar!  Adrenals and thyroid play a big part in helping your system manage sugar in your system (keeping it even).  With adrenal fatigue you tend to get more hypoglycemia and palps when hungry, AND palps after eating when sugar is high.  Try keeping blood sugar steadier with smaller more frequent meals, lower in carbs and very little sugar.  I don't know why there is a blood sugar / palp connection, but there seems to be.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 09/04/2009 11:58

FANTASTIC post KatieRoo - We could be twins :-). You describe a similar situation to me. I am also hypothyroid and it is autoimmune (hashi's) so I will be on meds for life - synthetic thyroid hormones to eplvce with my gland can no longer produce. I also have coretisol issues in that my body cannot regulate the cporto-adrenal balance the emits them in the wrogn ratos, so sometimesI can produce enough cortisol for sevrla people but little or no adrenalin. I take perscribed corto*-blockers to correct this. They are a little hard on the stomach but better than the efect cortisol woud have on my liver if it wasn't dealt with. Sounds like you have a great Endo.

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 15/04/2009 15:53

Back again!  Oh boy.. have I been up one side of a roller coaster and down the other!

I am thinking I am on to something with my problem.  I have Graves Disease as I have posted.. palps are a common occurence with that.. not to mention menopause.  So.. Back in January, I discover I am VIOLENTLY allergic to Asparatame.  I go to the docs (4 now all together) in the middle of these 'attacks'.. can't breathe.. hardly can walk... They all diagnose me A Fib.

So I am put on Atenolol..25 mgs the beta blocker. And I am STILL A Fib when they test me. But I KNOW I am still going through the withdrawal of the Equal, Splenda, NutriSweet etc.. they are not giving this a chance to get out of me! 

As of last night, I cut back the Atenolol to half a pill, what's that 12 mgs? ... Still take my PTU for the Graves... did NOT take tea this morning as NewDoc suggested.. and guess what.. no palps today as of yet.  Normal pulse.  I am thinking the Beta Blocker is NOT needed in the first place and creating symptoms I don't have!  The tea was no help either. the decaf tea. 

So people.. pay attention to these meds that are suppose to help.. sometimes I think they do the opposite... And God.. what every you do.. get away from Asparatame.. it's in EVERYTHING... even Advil!! 

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 16/04/2009 08:50

Hi BeachWalker, I'm avoiding aspartame, altho OI have a firend who takes 'diet' everything - loaded with the stuff, to avoid gaining weight ands it never affects her, Everyone is different I guess. I just wanted to say, about your tea - be very careful with decaf tea / coffee - the chemicals used to decaffienate them can have a far worse effect, I have found, than any caffeine. I know in certain instanceas the cemical used to decaffienate is a derivative of Tuolene - a dry-cleaning fluid! No Thank you. Just thought it might help,

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 16/04/2009 13:05

I had NO idea there was any sort of chemical process that went on to decaf tea. I don't know WHAT I was thinking. As far as your friend goes... I have read that the aspartame has a cumulative effect..stores itself up in the body tissues, and usually will do it's damage by the time it's found out.

I can't help but wonder what these doctors do when people come in with all these maladies and have no idea what is causing them.  They can just treat the symptoms...and as I found out..that can be far worse. I just know that the US FDA (jokesters who accept bribes) failed aspartame 8 times before it was passed.  Wing nuts over there. Money talks.

Stay well!!

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 16/04/2009 13:51

Beachwalker...Welcome back! I agree with you totally on the Aspartame/diet sugars deal. My hubby will NOT get off of the stuff. The docs keep giving him meds for this, that and the other thing. I think his problems are because of the diet sugars. He's diabetic and will not change his way of thinking.

The docs gave me beta blockers for the palps, too. I was slightly hallucinating with them. That was scary. Stopped them. I am just diet controlled by my own hand and lots of prayer for guidance...it's working.

Anonymous is right on track with the decaf stuff! Those decaffing things are nothing but poison. I noticed I am not bad with taking regular coffee and tea in very moderate amounts. I will go so far as to say that any prefab foods and additives are poison to the system. I am off of the additives and I feel great! Except for the odd day when we have to go to someone's house to eat, I should say. We rarely go to a restaurant, either. The arthritis in my back has subsided, too! Great perk! Staying off of pork is also helping the arthritis. I am so achy when I eat pork. When I eat foods with additives, I get a bad taste in my mouth and my hubby tells me I have really bad breath. It may sound harsh, but I'm glad he tells me stuff like that so I can figure out what I did to deserve it.

Take care, all of you! I wish you health and peace of mind. This stuff can make you paranoid. I know I am!

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 16/04/2009 15:44

There is indeed Beachwalker. If you like a nice coffee-type drink and want to avoid both caffiene and anything that has been decaffienated, you might like to try something called 'Barley cup' - which i understand has no caffiene or a herbal tea if you prefer.

I have told my friend why I avoid aspartame but to no avail. If it does have a cumulate build-up and she does become sensitive to it at any point, I hate to think of the effect, as she has been using it for years, decades now I think of it - since her teens. Is there any testign that can be done to determien whether it is being stored and if so, how much, like thier is for the toxicity of certain chemicals?

Sometimes I think medcine is a science of elinimation and trial & error.

 
  Nick  Posted: 16/04/2009 16:11

Hi All,

Excellent posts recently.  I've been here since 2003 and have had discussions on this topic with probably a dozen folks via email over the years.  I met a guy ... a fellow IT tech in South Africa recently.  He was interested in how I beat palpitations.  When we found he could not get Aloe Gel or GASX or A really good multi-vitamin over there, I couriered a package to him from my home here in Canada.  This fellow and others I have met on this group .. I have found to be really nice people.  I met an airline engineer from the USA who was working in France.  I met a woman living in Ireland (my homeland) who was suffering this thing badly. I met several from the US and the UK. 

There is one emerging pattern that I want to bring up now.  It is one that Beachwalker just touched on.  That is the situation in regard to the medical system and the bodies that govern or affect it.  Specifically the FDA.  I read two book recently.  One is "Cracking the Metabilic Code" by Dr. James Levalle, and the other is "The Gabriel Method" by Jon Gabriel.  What I have extracted from those books and from my 4 years of medical training and past 6 years of researching palpitations is this:

The medical "business" is at a crossroads right now.  Driven by promises of wild profits, the big pharmas use every trick in the book to get YOU onto something.  I recently interviewed a retired pharmaceutical engineer.  His stories would make you cry.... then want to pick up a baseball bat!  The hipocratic oath is a once reviered mission statement for doctors.  It's now a museum piece. 

Yes... big pharma can make some symptoms go away.  And in North America, americans are trained from birth to believe that if you don't feel it or see it... then it does not exist.  So by early teens, most americans see the pill as the cure.  This is exactly what pharma wants.  Well trained citizens. 

They want to genetically modify you food so that only "thier" stuff will grow.  In Canada and the US some large chemical conglomerates have actually sued citizens for growing natural corn and wheat! 

So when I read the last post on aspartame, it reminded me of my next mission in life.  This situation has to change and it has to start now.

The essence of the books I read is this:  We all start out life with a full tank of health.  From very early however, a "Dysbiosis" starts to develop.  Dysbiosis is where one chemical change sets off a chain reaction that ends up affecting hundreds of other chemical reactions in the body.  Once this starts, it is very difficult to get out of.  It's too easy to take one of their pills to make a symptom go away.  But before long... you have several other symptoms.  Now the chain reactions have started.

It we are to survive and retain our health it will be up to each of us to take a stand.  You need to study this stuff and educate yourself against this mess.  And when you do this you need to get the word out. 

This is a battle we all cannot afford to lose. 

Nick

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 16/04/2009 16:27

Hi SSFAR, thankfully I'm not caffiene sensitive  - just need to stay away from the aspartame, altho saccarine doesn't effect me but your post reminded me of something my grandmother used to say. She used to read the ingredients on the back of a packet of anything that looked what she termed 'fancy' (i.e. the junk we used to eat as kids) when we'd offer some to her  - and say, "well if I can't spell it, I'm sure as God not going to eat it" !!

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 16/04/2009 17:49

Great post Nick... and just what was it that you did for palpitations. I just did a BP check for the heck of it. BP was 125/74...pulse 90 (gulp) and there was a little zig zag line indicating an irregular heart beat. I just took COQ10.. I am going slow at this.. I would have loved to have taken a magnesium but it says not to take within 2 hours of taking a med... and I have to take PTU for the thyroid soon. Always something!

I want to pick up the two publications you mentioned..good reads huh? AND..I found aspartame in Gas-X...so be careful...

 

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 16/04/2009 18:10

NICK!! wow. you HAVE been on here a long time!  What I love, as seasoned blogger! ...So you say Twinings Eng tea is good... safe?  What other ones?  I am even SO afraid of herbal... Going to go and read all your posts so you don't have to repeat yourself to me about palps!

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 16/04/2009 18:28

Nick, If you want to get on the Aspartame crusade, I can put you in touch with Betty Martini... a real spearhead with this ... she is on Coast to Coast radio a lot.. this is a popular broadcast you can get on your computer.. See if you can watch Sweet Misery as well... google it.

You can reach me at willow200@aol.com.

 
  Nick  Posted: 16/04/2009 20:05

Hi BeachWalker,

Nice Bloood pressure! 

I started researching this back in 2003 when I thought I was dying.  You know the feeling.  Every episode I thought I was a gonner.  After some years of it, the fear turned to anger.  That shift in anxiety help a bit, but I knew there was more to it.

Through many thousands of emails back and forth with various people I started databasing their symptoms.  These kind folks diarized their diets for me and gave me a very detailed look at their lives and lifetyles.  Evenutally I began to see patterns.  Back then I didn't fully understand the importance of "dysbiosis" and so my work was much harder. 

I wrote under the name "Lucidboomer" for most of this time and covered a lengthy list of risk factors that lead to heart palpitations.  Not everyone hast he same risk factor.  This was the hard part. 

But I found that eliminating all fish products, including fish oil, was one the key factors in me and at least a dozen others who have beaten this thing.  I've consulted with a "mixed martial arts" professional and an NHL hockey player who have both successfully put palpitations behind them.

Next is the Vitamin D link.  All my data indicates that anyone north of the 35th parallel will be deficient of vitamin D.  Specifically D3 is the one.  Cholecalciferol.

Persons who are overweight need more, as do persons of color.   So being of color and overweight is the highest risk factor.  In 2008 I moved to 8,000 IU per day.  This plays a HUGE role in the correcting of dysbiosis since Vitamin D3 is implicated in the management of over 200 enzymes and 2000 different processes that take place in our bodies.  My wife is 5'6" 135 lbs. and takes 6,000 IU daily.

I also take Aloe Gel.  NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH ALOE JUICE!  Despite my clear indications on this I still get people who buy juice then complain about loose stool.  It has to be the Gel.  The Gel contains some very useful digestive aids that help reduce inflammation to the lining of the stomach and intestines.  This plays a siginificant role in reducing palps.  I drink one ounce a day mixed with any kind of juice.

I am also careful of my wines.  Cheap wine that's cured with metasodium bisulfate is bad.  Get good wines.

Caffeine has no effect.  Doctors always think that palps are caused by caffeine.  The first thing that every single one of them will tell you is to discontinue caffeine.  CRAP!  They are wrong.  I drink about 6 cups from Starbucks every day and have no palps!

The key is to get dysbiosis under control.  When you do that.... you have no idea how well you will feel!

I take a good vitamin (Rainbow Light Advanced Nutritional System) and I take extra magnesium (900 mg daily). 

When you read those books you will see that the food we eat is not as bioavailable as it once was.  Microwaving changes the molecular structure of your food and the host of chemicals they put on and in things does the same.  The result is that you get about 1/5th of the nutrition you need for the same quanity of food that would have sufficed 50 years ago.  So... the body craves more .... and we get fat.... and move into a state of dysbiosis. 

Search Lucidboomer if you want to find more or be in contact.

Nick.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 17/04/2009 08:26

Great post Nick. Could you explain what you mean by the term - 'if you can't see it or feel it, it doesn't exist'? Does this refer to scientific method of empirical evidence or am I missing something?

As regards the idea that we are all born with a full tank of health? In an ideal world yes? But in the real world we are born with inherited conditions, congenital abnormalities and health limitation influenced by the circumstances of our gestation and birth. I think tho' that medcine  - well medcine here anyway, holds as its aim, getting to the cause of the illness and treating it along with the symtoms so that the symtoms don't just re-occur when the perscription is finished - just as there is no point in taking an aspirin for an earache without finding and treating the cause.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 17/04/2009 11:16

Wow, I think our discussion thread has been taken over by North Americans? :-)

But given the great info from your posts Nick - last one at 20:05 was very informative, then this is no bad thing at all .

I do envy you the Starbucks tho'. The interestign thing is, caffiene (just the regular non-starbucks kind :-) has never affected me either.

 
  Nick  Posted: 17/04/2009 16:31

Hi Anonymous,

I am happy to explain.  I apologize for my perculiar Canadian vernacular.  It can sometimes confuse those not from here. 

You asked, "Could you explain what you mean by the term - 'if you can't see it or feel it, it doesn't exist'? Does this refer to scientific method of empirical evidence or am I missing something?"

What I mean by that is this.  If I, or any number of my peers, were to go to the doctors here or in the USA to complain about palpitations, we would all get pretty much the same treatment.  The doctor would do the usual tests... blood pressure, heart rate, talk about your diet, etc.  He or she would send you for a treadmill test.  When the results come back normal the doc would then put you on a Holter monitor for 24 or 48 hours.  They might even give you an echo-cardiogram.  Assuming that my palps are typical of what has been discussed here for the past 6 years, then the docs will have ruled out mitral valve prolapse or other phyiscal issues.  The doctor will give you the lecture about cutting down caffeine and other stimulants including alcohol. 

So after all that it will come down to what our doctors do best.  They assess a condition and assign a chemical to erase that symptom.  In this case I was prescribed Propafenone (Rhythmol).  The result was that my palps vanished!  So... Here I sit (five years ago) as a good little trained citizen thinking that my palps are gone.  Yeah!  The Doctor is satisfied that we need not go any further with this... after all... the chemical has fixed the problem.  So here is where modern Alopaths lose their way.  They think that "problem" was that I had palpitations.  DEAD WRONG.  The "problem" was that I had something going on in my body that manifest itself in palpitations. 

So that is where that use of "can't see it of feel it...." comes from.  Since, after taking the chemicals, I no longer have palps, most doctors will deem the problem no longer exists.  NONE will admit that.  And some will get angry as even the suggestion.  That's their little internal moral battle.  I can't help them with that.

In regard to my statement that we are born with the tank full.  Allow me to explain.  You are, of course, absolutely correct that congenital defects relating the family history, the drugs your parents used, the alcohol (fetal alcohol syndrome) the presence or abscense of vitamin (folic acid!!!) are all critical to you start in life.  But having said that... no matter what your baggage claim says.... the day you are born is the day you have the least dysbiosis.  It is the time in your life when, if you are have all of your endocrine systems working for you and all the enzymes doing what they are supposed to do... your body will be best able to normalize itself.  This is nature.  It is the way we were designed.  Othewise infant death rate would be enormous.  But once you are here (born), you begin the slow decline toward Dis-ease.  Toward Dysbiosis.

Why?  Because your mom thinks (or obviously doesn't think) that its ok for aunt Suzy to smoke in the same house as you.  It's ok for you to be put on bottled milk because .... well breast feeding is just too difficult with your schedule and all.  Because your mom buys processed food!  She spoon feeds you baby food for  jar bought from a store!  Ya... it's convenient.  Seems ok.  WRONG.  Your dysbiosis is starting.  In your teen years you Dentist puts "Amalgam" fillings in your teeth because he's too stupid to keep himself up to date with technolgy.  Now you're in big trouble.  Mercury will leech into your body for years and years and years and heavily contribute to palpitations.

If I sound cynical or angry... I AM!  The FDA in the US has just been forced to stop allowing big pharma funding Doctors' holidays and sabatical leaves. 

It's a new world out there now.  When your own Susan Boyle can pull off 15 million viewers in 48 hours from her "Britain's Got Tallent", and when our own Ashland Kutcher can raise 1 million followers in 4 days after challenging CNN to a race..... YOU HAVE TO KNOW that the landscape has shifted.  Through social networks and groups like this one (Irish Health was one of the first to recognize this trend) then the people regain control of their destinies.  And the medical profession is going to be completely re-developed.

NickAKA Lucidboomer

 
  Jess  Posted: 17/04/2009 18:18

Hi every one, I totally agree with Nick, Also We can add all the envirment pollution that was created by us (Human) at the top of all this. Nick is this true? do most of us on this site have a problem with Fungus in the Gut ? Psyllium, being a non-digestible fiber, is one of the three things known to bind fungal poisons, or mycotoxins (the other two are charcoal and cholestyramine, a drug. A.V. Constantini, Fungal Bionics). Psyllium, as a fiber also regulates the bowels, relieving both constipation and diarrhea. It is imperative that, as you kill off fungus, it leaves the body via the bowels.  People with gut problems (constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating, reflux, etc.) can almost be assured that they have an “inflamed” or leaky gut. Psyllium hulls greatly assist in “sealing up” the gut. Once the bowels are moving and the gut is sealed, one can absorb and assimilate nutrients from their food like they should.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 20/04/2009 09:51

Ah, I see what you mean now Nick, Thanks. The docs perform all the routine tests, rule out the more obvious causes and then perscribe somethig to cure the palps - without ever actually finding out what's causing the palps. This, like my earache example, would be like a doctor continuously perscribing anti-biotics (which a doctor should never do, of course) for re-occuring ear infectiosn without ever finding out what was actually causing them to re-occur. It remind me of the almost constant reports I hear of docs in the U.S. treatign all of the symtoms of hypothyroidism - raised cholesterol, depression, fatigue, and countless more without ever testing for and treating the cause - hypothyroidism.

Oooh Ireland of the 60's and  70's was waaay behind Canada or the U.S  (you over-estimare us:-) so my parents, like the vast number of their generation, weren't using any illegal /recreational drugs and they were non-drinkers at the time - altho for fetal alcohol syndrome, alcohol intake would need to be way way higher that the safe limit anyway, I know. You're right of course about nutrition and so little was known then about the effects of folic acid and smoking during pregnancy. By circumstances of gestation and birth I was also referring to mental health and things like the maternal care and birth services in Irish hospitals (which may well have been far behind that in Canada or the U.S.) and also the ability and speed of doctors to recognise and treat certain conditions before they severely impact that childs life. In fact before the impact of things like a sterile environment and recognition of its importance and certain medical interventions at birth, the infant (and maternal) mortality rate was enormous - that of course was 100+ years ago. The slow decline toward disease or dysbiosis surely depends again, on both the lot you were born with, combined with your environment anf the ability of medical personal to quickly recognise and treat those conditions which lead to disease and illness.

With regard to formula feeding - you are way way to dismissive there, I'm afried Nick. Why? Because 1.) doctors in the 60's and 70's actively DIScouraged women from breastfeeding - becuase of concerns about their own nutrition resulting in poor quality breast milk or maybe for other reasons. 2.) Statutary protection for maternity leave was so ABYSMAL (and still is in the U.S. - tho I don't know about canada) as to make it impossible for any women to breastfeed past a couple of weeks 3.) the 60's and 70's were the first generation of Irish women who had fought for and hard won the right to control their own fertility - the links with no breastfeedign should be obvious and 4.) for some women, even now, with midwidfery and lactation consultant care, it is simply not possible for them to breastfeed. Yes, the baby food industy may well have an impact - I can't argue with that - but again, where legislative protection for maternity leave is so ABYSMAL as to fail to protect a womans time with her child after birth, then of course convenience food is going to become neccessary. So if you're lookinh for someone to blame for that I suggest that instead of thinking of laying the blame at the door or mothers - or father (both having responsibility for the are of thir child) , you should look to your legislators to action that - as we have done both here and the UK. On the question of amalgam, certainly some people are sensirive to it, without doubt and it is only now that such testing is available. Some dentists in the 60's and 70's certainly were uninformed and also some countries simply did not have governments with enough intelligence to invest in dental care - so dentists were forced to use cheap amalgam materials. Tho there are are some denal caries which simply are not suitable for white fillings. You are entitled to your anger, that is undeniable.

I've no idea who Susan Boyle is - we don't have the UK channels ourselves and I have no interest in tabloid journalism but given that she's on "Britain's Got Talent", I would venture to suggest she's not in fact "ours" at all - but most likely Bristish (the hint is in the name of the show! :-)

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 20/04/2009 11:41

I was curious and so checkd who Susan Boyle is and great and all as her talent may be, it seems that she is a Scotswoman - so we cannot claim her as ours.

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 20/04/2009 13:50

I sure hope Nick can 'hear' me applauding his posts!  The BEST.  So, with all what you went through with doctors, what was their final diagnosis? Head Scratching?  Idiots.. Ugh.. I have such little faith with these greedy people. Not all, but.. at least the ones I run into.

Has anyone gotten diagnosed with AFib?  It seems to me, if it were as serious as they made it out to be, I'd be long gone. It seems controllable. Nick, I wish you would write my email. I don't want to take up space on here... I just have a few questions.

Thanks...

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 20/04/2009 14:16

I can't speak for others of course, but I have no problem with fungal infection in the gut. Altho I know that for people with hashimotos - autoimmune hypothyroidism that candidas is more common but thankfully I don't suffer with it. I have heard of psylum - and that its good for poeple who cannot take digestive fibre in their food - for example after surgery. I have suffered with constipation but only as a hypoT symtom which was resolved with medication (thyroxine). Leaky Gut Syndrome is not a recognised medical condtion here - from the perscrptive that there is no medically recognised scientific study evaluating its existence as a medical condition. In relation to inflammation in the gut and attempts to dignose and cure it, I would reckon to be very careful that any measures taken don't imflame the gut further and also in removing the damaging fungus, to make sure to replace any of the good bacteria which are killed in the process.

 
  Nick  Posted: 20/04/2009 16:13

Well, back from a nice weekend of rest and relaxation.  I see the group is busy!  I'd like to address a point right off.  The name of this group is Irishhealth.  However, I detect that some people here are under the fantasy that the title of the group means that it is a group OF the Irish, FOR the Iish and BY the Irish.  I would like to point out a couple of things.  Some of you have only been around since 2001 or so.  You are what we call "newbies" in the internet business.  If you look in the address bar of your browser you will see "WWW" in front of Irish Health dot com.  That stands for WORLD WIDE WEB.  Irish Health is NOT a website just for Irish men and women.  Secondly, Irishhealth has a following of 131, 605 people.  They come from all over the world and contribute greatly to your forum.  And finally on this point... If it were the intent of the group moderators to restrict the discussion to just folks from Ireland, then foreign IP addresses would be restricted.  Ohh.... I guess I do have one more point.  My daughter in law is a geneologist.  She's done our family tree back to 1504.  I may live in Canada, I am originally from Ireland.  My family is WALSH and I guess I don't have to tell the Irish in this group what that means.  I'm from Tobercurry in county Sligo.

Anonymous - regarding your post.  I understand what you say about the past.  There is nothing we can do to fix was has gone on.  But what we DO have control of is the NOW.  Women here in Canada breast feed where ever they happen to be when the baby wants it!  It is very common to have the woman next to you in the restuarant breast feeding.  Same when you are on the bus or train... or in a store. 

Since we are in control of our personal affaires, the food we choose, the lifestyle we choose is all our responsibility.  When I go to see my doctor, I am not going to see some guru or god... I am going to have a chat with some guy who has finished med school and has ten years in family practice.  It hardly makes him an expert any anything!  I look at doctors as my though they were my personal health analysts.  They work for me and I will listen to what they say, but I will have the final say on what goes on.  And I say this only because they are somewhat handicapped.  They cannot afford the time to research and study medicine and health the way I do.  They have to one patient every 15 minutes all day long and then they have to attend their sick patients in hospital, dress some wounds, fix broken bones, remove debris from bodies, diagnose viruses and diseases... by the time they get home their tired and need some rest! 

Regarding Susan Boyle.  You say ... Not one of ours...?  You seem to thing there is a seperation between YOU (Ireland) and Britain?  I hate to be the one to break your bubble but YOU ARE ALL ONE (in the eyes of the world)!  And demographically you must know that Ireland was populated by foreigners after 1066.  Invaders from the Norse, Wales and Scotland.  In fact, my name "Walsh" means litterally that - Foreigner!  So what's a Irishman?  We have the same problem here in Canada.  We have one Province - Quebec - that used to think it was special.... that IT represented Canada.  That whole issue is worn now.  Canada will be a muslim nation by 2020.

And finally... some of you have expressed an interest in communicating by email.  For some reason the group moderators won't print contact information.  So all I can say is that I am willing to communicate by email.  To find me just use google and look for lucidboomer.  I have 25 or more email addresses so any of them will get to me!

Cheers,

Cool

 
  Jeremiah  Posted: 20/04/2009 17:45

Great posts above. I have been on Mag for 3 weeks now and i have noticed big improvements but my palps are no tall gone. I still get great fits every day. there are improvements as they feel less stong. I also have benn getting little fits of SVT. How long have others had to wait for results to improve. I an trying to be patient as the pharmacist (a friend of mine) stated it can take up to 6- 8 weeks to see any improvments. ALso i am taking 600 mg a day. (is that enough ? ) I still fell muscle twitches and spasms all over my body so im sure it may still be mg deficiency, but ive had a tough week(i attributed it to alcohol, skiing and hot tubbing but im not sure what to think) I am also considering going off the inderal 60 mg i have been on for 3 years for migraine prevention.

Should i still be taking a multivitamin like centrum at night ?

any thoughts would be great

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 20/04/2009 18:23

Uh oh!! LOL.. I see geographical fur flying.  Who cares where we are all from?  We now 'know' each other and are in the position to help one another.. that is all that should count!  My email is below Nick.. I just checked..but I will try to find yours!

Later!

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 20/04/2009 23:25

Nick!.. what am I doing wrong? I cannot find Lucidboomer anywere. I put it up there in seach.. nothing.  Where does one do a search on members? Thanks!

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 21/04/2009 09:04

Hi Nick, I think the Irishhealth has only been up and running for about 9 years so those contributing since 2001 are seasond posters rather than "newbies". I can't imagine tho' that anyone would think contributers from all over the world aren't welcome as other opinions can make a valuable contribution. But . . . back to topic, if that is the social attitude to brastfeeding in Canada then it seemas it is very very like Southern Europe in that regard and Ireland has a lot to learn to from that. It's refreshing too to see your attitude to doctors - as a partners in your health rather than demi-gods. Of course GPs aren't expert at anything - learned and all as they are on general medicine (the clue is in the title:-) - that afterall is why we have consultants in specialised fields. GPs however do not attend patients in hospital - otherwise their practice would be woefully neglected. This is what we have NCHDs for. The system must be very different in Canada, I'm guessing.

I think that knowledgeable and helpful as you are on palps and I'm sure, many other things, your knowledge of geopgraphy is shockingly ignorant. In the eyes of anyone in the world who has some knowledge of European geography - tho perhaps that does not apply to Canadians :-), Ireland and Britain are two entirely seperate countries, both geographically, as is obvious and in terms of legal jurisdiction - just like the Netherlands and Germany or France and Switzerland are seperate countries, altho we are all EU members. Thinking that that they are all one is exactly the same as ignorant Europeans thinking that the U.S. and Canada are all the one and being a U.S. citizen is exactly the same as being a Canadian.

 
  Nick  Posted: 21/04/2009 18:50

Anonymous,

 

Success or failure in dealing with a health issue STARTS with your thinking. Part of the reason for my discussion with anyone is to determine their thoughts and beliefs. How you think about yourself and your relationship to everything thats going on around you absolutely will impact your level of health.

 

In my 30 years experience I've managed to see some patterns. People cannot be "convinced". People must learn. They must evolve a belief system. Life is engineered around that paradigm. Why do you think most teens come to battle their parents? For 14 years they've been bombarded with a believe system unique to that parent. Now they fight to establish a pseudo individual identity. Is it genetics? Or is it because of the frequency of your parent's beliefs?

 

If I'm getting a bit deep here.. I am talking about the nature of cells and molecular biology and quantum physics. All cells have a basal frequency. Just as the earth has a frequency (called Schumann resonance) of about 7.83 cycles per second. Cellular frequency is thought to be affected by YOUR THOUGHTS and of those around you. Gene mutation that leads to breast cancer or does it mutate because it's basal frequency

was altered by the energies that surround it?

 

Alternative medicine is zeroing on this phenomenon more and more. How you program your mind to handle things will affect your health outcomes. Your mind creates conditions whereby your cells react. That reaction, in some cases, results in palpitations. Until people see the big picture large health gains should not be expected.

 

And when I talk about "big picture" I am not talking about the mundane little things that keep us apart - like seperate bodies of land mass or seperate legal entities, or language. I am talking about the things that bring us together. The world doesn't care if you harbour isolationist sentiments. You are one....get on with it!

 

People seem to like to labels; to put things in tidy little groupings. This thinking is so stone age. Your comments appear to want to toss out nasty little labels on people who don't see the world as you do. Ignorant Canadians. Ignorant Europeans. That word must hold some power over you.

 

For your information we Canadians ARE the same are our US Friends. There is practically no difference at all. We watch the same TV shows, we eat the same food, we talk the same language. We have the same interests and hobbies. We have nearly the same money. I would not be surprised to see Canada and the US as one legal entity before long. We have all the resources.

 

You might wish to read "Matix Energetics" by Dr. Bartlett, or "Conversations With God" by Neale Donald Walsche. You will learn that how you heal and how you percieve things in life is quite fluid. You have the power to choose health or to choose ill-health. The latter choice will ensure you have dybiosis and that you get on that treadmill toward a nasty old age with failing organs and generally poor health and living.

 

Cheers All!

 

Cool

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 22/04/2009 12:14

Hi Nick, a most interesting post once again. Sucess / failure STARTS with your thinking but is not wholly determiend by it nor in many cases is the health proble caused by your thinking - sometimes it is genetic - as in the case of the gene for breast cancer and sometimes influenced by environmental factors. I don't imagine anyone in the developed world - be that the EU or U.S. harbours isolationist sentiments. But saying that we are one is entirely subjective. I am one with all other Irish people, all other caucasions for example but not with all other EU citizens, just as you may not be all one with all other North Americans and now amount of tellign you to "get on with it" will make me and for example a Polish person all the one.Does the nasty little label of callign people "stone age" hold power over you? There is nothing nasty about referring to your country of origin - you are Canadian. I am European. The viewpoint that all European nations are the same simply by value of their proximity is ignorant - as it is both incorrect and uninformed. If you are of the viewpoint that being a canadian is the same as being from the U.S., you are entitled to that view but there are many Canadians and many many U.S. citizens who would disagree. Just so as you know we don't watch the same TV shows as the other 27 EU nations, nor to we eat the same food altho it is similar as it is in most of the developed world. Our currency is exactly the same - unlike the UK and we all speak a wide variety of native languages.  I do understand however that perception, like belief, politics, sexuality, ideology, medicine and so many other things in life is fluid. But if as a person has a pre-existing congenital condition, it is patently not possible to 'choose' to cure that which is is simply not presently curable - altho maintaining and treating is of course possible. Just as it is not biologically possible for a perfectly healthy person to one day suddenly decide to acquire a particular illness.

Cheers,

P.S. - Love the sun glasses. Now send us over the weather :-)

 
  Nick  Posted: 22/04/2009 17:48

Anonymous,

I understand your position. We are getting off topic here though and it is not fair to this group. What you an I have to discuss needs to be done at a local pub over a few pints or a bottle of wine. I really do enjoy discussing philosophy and new age paradigms. But here is not the place. All I can suggest though is that you buy or borrow a copy of "Matrix Energetics". Bartlett understands this whole thing in relation to quantum physics.

We can discuss this privately if you find me as lucidboomer on Google.

The weather here is really good this past week. I've cut the grass three times already and the flowers are all out. 72 degrees yesterday.

Cheers AllNick Cool

 
  BeachWalker  Posted: 22/04/2009 21:23

Hi All!

I agree with your thinking Nick. I read the book The Secret and it unfolded certain truths I knew to be out there but didn't have the right spin on it. We DO attract illness by negative thoughts, without a doubt.  I try not to 'feed' into these thoughts. On one hand, I feel I shouldn't even be discussing these stinking palps....because I don't want to attract more to myself and on the other hand, I want to learn from people and their experiences and what they have to say on how they handled it.

I am dying to hear if anyone has or was diagnosed A-Fib!  They (our wonderful GP's) give that diagnosis like free lottery tickets. I have seen so many people fall into the cardiology trap. One visit is worth a thousand more. Coumadin handed out as the cure all... darn rat poison.

Now I see so many getting sick as a result of it.. its SO not far of these incompetent doctors. It's big business....that's all. They seem to count on us being stupid.

Ok.. let me search you out on Google.

A

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 23/04/2009 09:27

True Nick, we are getting off topic, quite right. Alas, there is no pub local to both of us to have this discussion :-(  tho' it is very interesting. I'll certainly look up the book if I can't find you on google - Thanks. Funny, we had great weather last weekend too! 19 degrees - sure we thought it was summer. Managed to get the grass cut too. 72 degress sounds incredibly impressive - according to my conversion, which could be a little off, that's about 22 degrees - "in new money" as we say.

Cheers.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 23/04/2009 13:44

Hi all, is this solely an irsh experience or do more and more supermarket squashes (fruit flavour drinks that are for dilution with water) seem to contain aspartame?? It seems that everythig is infestd with it. They're not the sort of thing I usually drink but I just went into a major supermarket (Tesco) and not only were the "sugar free" ones I looked at containing it - as was always the case but the non-sugar free squashes, of all and every flavour contained it too! I only manage to find one - out of dozens of brands and flavous that had no aspartame. Has anyone else noticed this?

 
  Nick  Posted: 23/04/2009 16:23

Hi Beachwalker,

I was diagnosed with A-Fib.  In 2003 after going into the hospital's emergency ward for the 6th time in 12 days, they kept me in for further testing.  My heart rate was 220.  I had to urinate every 15 minutes.  They explained A-Fib to me and said that the danger here is that the Atrium is basically oscillating at a high rate and therefore not pumping blood through me as efficiently as it should.  When this happens, there is a high risk of blood clotting.  That could be fatal.

They wanted to put me on rat poison too.  They gave me Propafenone to slow the heart down.  They were about to put paddles on me to "cardio invert" when I converted back to normal sinus rhythm myself. 

As a researcher with my own phtytonutritional research organization... there was NO WAY I was going to start putting chemicals into me in order to control a chronic condition.  For a head ache I'll take an aspirin... but for something that is a symptom of an underlying health issue, I want to correct the issue.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.  That is when I decided to develop a database and start my world wide crusade to beat palps.  I was zeroing in on the risk factors quickly when I met George here online in 2006 I think.  He significantly speeded up the process by introducing data on Aloe Gel. 

Now I am palpitation free and anxiety free.  I'm currently researching Rooibos tea and Tulsi Tea.  The health benefits from these too look very promising.  A company in South Africa that produces the Rooibos tea sent me 12 cases of the tea at their expense to use in the testing. 

But in regard to A-Fib, the #1 most important thing to find out is whether or not you have any valve issues.  Phyical causitic factors will NOT be fixed by nutrition.  To find this out, one needs a very good echo cardiogram or one of the newest CT Scans.

Nick

Cool

 
  Julie  Posted: 18/06/2009 16:27

Please keep on subject new visitors will lose interest and not get the info they seek if they have to read all these irrelevant posts

 
  Nick  Posted: 18/06/2009 18:50

Julie,

Did you post to the wrong group by mistake? This group is about heart palpitations. Any discussion that happens between two or more people who suffer from palpitations is anything but irrelevant.

If we can't talk about what we did to beat this terrible affliction, then what is the point? If all you want to do is talk about how awful your palps are, then perhaps it is YOU that is in the wrong group. 

Since 2004 I've discussed heart palpitations with dozens of people. 10 of those people have entered into private email conversations with me. These folks are from all over the world - France, South Africa, USA, Canada, Egypt, Chile, Argentina, Brazil and Italy. Every single one of those people are either cured of their palpitations or the palps are significantly reduced. So don't be telling us that we are off topic.

Nick

Cool

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 22/06/2009 09:33

Hi Nick, in relation to your reference to rat poison. Just in case it is giving others the wrong impression, do I take it you are referring to warfarin medication? If so, this is perfectly medically valid anti-clotting medication wihch is vital for many people - though I agree not exactly the sort of thing a person would take for palps unless they had an underlying clotting problem.Re the aspirin for headaches, it will actually have the same effect - aspirin can also prevent clotting as a secondary effect. Tho oddly enough I take the same attitude to headaches as to palpitations, if they were persisent I would want to know why - and ruling out dehydration, tension and eye problems (I wear contacts) it is something I would have medically investigated.

 
  Skippy heart  Posted: 22/06/2009 14:01

Hi Nick,

If you have time could you provide us with more details of the actions you and the other people you mentioned in your previous posting have taken to cure or improve the problem with palpitations. Palps is a terrible feeling and all want to be cured

Thanks

Skippy Heart

 
  Nick  Posted: 22/06/2009 20:57

To answer Skippy... I always assumed that people read this group's note all the way back to 2003. I used to get palp attacks two or three times a day. Each time I thought I was dying. Did the who doctor routine. ECG, treadmill, 24 hour holter and one week holter, and echo cardio gram. Had eye's checked to see if it revealed anything. I got the same diagnosis as most of you. Take Phythmol - a beta blocker! NO WAY I thought. I was at the point where I was afraid to go out of the house! I would have thought that anyone with palpitations would be motivated enought to do some research!

My career evolved from me being an information technology researcher and developer to me being a phyto-scientific researcher. Over the years I gathered information on this group and dozens of others, working night and day on the largest phyto-chemical database on the planet (the Duke Database), diving into PubMed and reading every single research paper ever written on anything involving the heart I began to recognize the risk factors. I then went into testing. I began corresponding with a doctor (one of very few) who was interested in the risk factors I was looking at. Doctor David Duncan went out on a month fishing trip into the north altlantic and his science show once and for all that there is no safe fish left on this planet. I started blog on the subject and began corresponding with palp sufferers all over.

Like I said in my last post, we've identified the risk factors - and we've found the fix. I get really tired of people who just seem to like to whine and complain and whallo in self pity. There is no single pill you can take for this. It's up to you to fix it.

The palps I am talking about are ones that doctors can't attribute any physical or structural issue to (like prolapsed mitral valve etc). The palps I have solved are created by dysbiosis and stem from massive increases in systemic inflammation.

I can't post my entire regimine here online because it is too long to fit the rules of this board. If you want to email me, I will be happy to send you my routine. Be sure to put "Heart Palps" in the subject line so my spam filter doesn't turf you.

Nick

Cool

 
  Julie  Posted: 01/07/2009 13:55

Hi Nick I was just stating that if new visitors read your post dated 21/4 and20/4 firstthey would think they were on a different planet from you not everyone is as intellectual as you if they weerre worried about their palps they may not read any further, and there are are so many posts on this forum they may not read back on them all. If you read back on MY past posts you will see I do not go on about how bad my palps are in fact just the opposite this site was a godsend to me when i first got them and I just dont want other people to get put off. Sorry if this offends you I was just making a comment, you obviously dont take crticism kindly. Just to let everyone else out there know that this site helped me a lot  3 years ago I thought I was dying and my heart was about to give up but here I am still here and enjoying life.

 
  Nick  Posted: 01/07/2009 22:41

Hi Julie,

I'm sorry if I left such a bad impression.  I really can take criticism... my research partner is criticising me all of the time! I can't even print the things he says about me!  What I am is DRIVEN.  I am a problem solving machine.  I realize that this is a personality flaw and it does cause issues from time to time.  Like when that idio Rubik came out with his cube... .I was awke for 32 hours before I solved it.  When I read a book... I read until it's finshed.

I have lots of patience for people's ideas though.  I beleive we all have something to learn from others.  This group was intrumental in providingme data to help me solve the palps issue.  It was clear that doctors has little or no interest in curing the problems that cause palps.  They remuneration system is setup around masking symptoms.  Health Care is little more than a forced continuity system.  You go see your doctor 4 or 5 times a year and he/she is happy.

I also don't understand people who wouldnt' take the time to find out what's going on.  In 2003 when I first got palps, I was on the net 8 hours a day ... after my regular work day.  I purchased subscriptions to the top scientific journals.  I accessed the Duke Database (worlds largest phyto nutritional database) and read tens of thousand of pages of articles. 

I graduated from high school with my doctor.  We're friends.  Within three years he was asking me for information on palps.  Doctors come out of school having read a few texts and interned at a major trauma center or hospital emergency ward.  They've memorized a good set of health issues. They've been exposed to a year or two of general illness and major trauma care.  But that is it!  Big Pharma used to send them off on learning vacations to exotic spots where they would learn of the benefits of certain drugs.  In North America, though, the FDA is restricting that practice now.  Real progress in 2009 and beyond is going to be made by open source researchers with a scientific background and the time to get it done.

I do love the group and would only suggest to newcomers that the REASON you are here is because you're suffering from Palps.  Do yourselves a huge favor and take the time to go back to the first post... and start reading!

Nick

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  sunnysuz  Posted: 05/07/2009 13:19

I know this comment is REALLY REALLY late but hopefull Joe is still out there and reading the comments!!Smile

I was reading your comment about whether or not a person can experience heart palpapitations when feeling really hot? Funny you should say that because I've been trying to figure out one of the reasons for my palps and come to think of it, I do seem to get them when I am feeling really warm, like after a shower etc. not always but sometimes this does happen to me. You are not alone Joe.

However, for the most part, I can't find any regular pattern for my palps. They come and they go without any good reason that I can come up with??Frown

I have been talking with a great guy, who I met in here, and he has been very helpful in giving me valuable info concerning my heart palps. I plan on adhereing to his advice and hopefully help with my heart palps etc.

I have a question for anyone who would like to comment back on this?

What, if any affect ,can the vagus nerve play in heart palpitations? I've heard that this can be a reason for them. Could someone jump in and explain why that is?

 
  sunnysuz  Posted: 06/07/2009 16:47

Hi Everyone

I recently posted for the first time, which was the other day but I forgot to mention one very important thing about palps and how it makes me feel! I get this funny feeling in my stomache sometimes and the best way I can describe that feeling, is that it feels like butterflies, or that scared feeling you might get right before an important event. I am not for sure which feeling comes first, the palps or do the palps  result, because I'm having this funny butterfly feeling?  I just know that it seems to be happening either simultaneously, or, really close together! Whatever the case may be, it makes me feel very nervous & anxious!Frown 

I have been reading many of the posts in here and to my knowledge, nobody has mentioned having this feeling either during or after the palps. I have read that many feel anxious and scared and for some that might be how they describe the way I'm feeling with the butterfly sensation etc. I was wondering if any of you might have this same experience that I am having along with the palps??

Gee aren't palps fun!!! NOTTongue out

Hope to hear from someone soon!

Thx for listening.

 
  Jess  Posted: 07/07/2009 07:27

The researchers studied case histories of people with very frequent irregular heartbeats and found that 10 to 20 g of taurine per day reduced premature atrial contractions by 50% and prevented all premature ventricular contractions, but did not prevent pauses in heartbeats. They found that adding 4 to 6 grams of arginine immediately terminated essentially all remaining pauses and premature atrial contractions.These findings mean that the combination of taurine and arginine was able to stop all commonly caused irregular heartbeats. Taurine prevented irregular heartbeats by regulating potassium, calcium and sodium levels in the blood and tissues of the heart, regulating excitability of the myocardium, and protecting against free radical damage. The scientists noted that irregular heartbeats may respond to taurine because it dampens activity of the sympathetic nervous system and dampens epinephrine release. Arginine's effectiveness at stopping irregular heartbeats may result from its role as a nitric oxide precursor and from its ability to restore sinus rhythm spontaneously.

Did any one on this post tried this. How true is this?

 
  sunnysuz  Posted: 08/07/2009 14:39

Hi Jess

I have not personally tried any of the remedies your post has provided but they make PERFECT sense to me!

I wonder too ,if there's someone out there who could provide first hand tried and true info on whether or not those compounds really do have a positive and lasting effect on heart related conditions?

Be interesting to find out?Smile

 
  Nick  Posted: 08/07/2009 18:24

Excellent posts SunnySuz and Jess,

There is a ton of research out there on this.  I did try l-argenine supplementation back in 2005 but 20 grams is a LOT of l-argenine.  There are a couple of side affects.  One... you will "muscle up" and two... I found I got hot flashes...like hives.  I should have tapered down to 5 or 6 grams to see what the effect would be.  But part of me wondered about the systemic changes in my body that were allowing my sudden onset of palpitations to happen.  While l-argenine is an essential amino acid, it would have to be used as though it was a drug.... in order to address an imbalance in my system.  I chose to find my normalization through diet homeostasis rather than drug induced conditioning.  

My current belief is that systemic inflammation is at the root cause of a number of things that all tend toward causing individual or group processes to fail to funtion normally. 

I think there are many approaches.  We all just have to rationalize what fits in with our core beliefs? 

There is a whole other side of this thing too.  A friend I recently started emailing from this group point out to me yesterday... the importance of anxiety on our condition.  She appropriately notices that anxiety can, in of and of itself, create all the conditions that lead to palpitations.  When this happens, it is the brain that is causing the production of chemicals that create palps.  How do you battle the brain?  It's not like you can sneak up on it when it's not looking and whack it with a rubber mallet....... ITS ALWAYS LOOKING!  Laughing  That is part of the problem, training the brain to behave.  And THAT is probably the topic of another group on this site.  To that end... I've been working with holosync, binaural beats and brain hemisphere syncronization to test the effects upon my personal anxiety levels.  It's not like popping a pill though.  You have to work at it.  There seems to be also a lot of research on it. 

Nick.

Smile

 
  sunnysuz  Posted: 13/07/2009 21:22

Hi All,

I have a question and I'm sure this will only apply to women folkKiss

Has anyone ever felt heart palpitations that could possibly have been a result from wearing to tight of a bra? Has anyone ever heard of this situation before and if so, could you comment on this for me?

Thanks

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 14/07/2009 17:29

SunnySuz,

I wouldn't doubt this one bit. I thought I was crazy because I always feel funny in the chest when I have my bra on. When I get home, off it comes and a load of pressure comes off. I feel instant relief. However, I've never had palpitations from just wearing a bra. There are reflexology pressure points in the chest which deal with the heart. One main one is under the bottom elastic strap and in the middle of the chest. As this one is the most constricting strap of all, I would imagine constant pressure on any one reflexology point wouldn't be at all a good thing. Also, with an up and down weight gain, even by a pound or two, would cause a difference in pressure on the point. Anyone else out there with ideas on this one? It's a good question.

Nick...thanks for the references to the books you mentioned a while ago. I'll be going out to get the one on dysbiosis. This makes a ton of sense to me.

Take care, all of you!

 
  Nick  Posted: 14/07/2009 18:06

Hey SunnySuz...

Be careful not to alienate the "cross-dressing" community! The reason you experience this phenomenon... is because of the nerves in the solar plexis area. Trained martial arts experts know this and often exploit this vulnerability in the human form. Others may have noticed that palps can be triggured with light pressure to the solar plexis area if your body is in the right position. The lower band on your bra would put weigth on that area of the solar plexis.

NickWink

 
  janeybabe  Posted: 20/07/2009 23:07

Hi all, I have just saw this topic on palpitations. I have been a sufferer of this for a long time now. I used to be very worried, went to heart specialists etc., got all kinds of medical tests done and got no answers. I eventually noticed that it had to hormonal, because it was always worse the week before, during and the week after my period. So gradually, the worry lessoned, and I tried not to stress about it. I learned to accept that I couldn't change what was happening, and I just put up with it when it happened. As I got older, I noticed it less and occasionally it still happens, but I try not to get too worried. Its a very frightening thing when it happens, and I would just advise not to panic. I wish you all the best of good health and hope this helps someone out there.

 
  DentalDi  Posted: 08/11/2009 03:20

I'm 42/female -I have suffered for 20yrs with palpitations, on and off. I have had them for a little as a day, to as many as my most recent attack of over 2 months straight...I once got as many as 16-19 skips per minute...the more you worry, the more it feeds them..its a vicious cycle.

I have been to my M.D and 3 different Cardio Drs., and placed on Toprol Xl.  They go away, and always come back.  I have had 2 stress tests, 2 echos, -stress echo. EKG'S and halter Monitors galore and lots of blood work.  They find nothing abnormal.  My M.D. did catch a few PVC'S on my EKG. Said they are harmless to your cardiac health, my Cardio Dr agreed...

 Everytime I get them for long term..I go back to the Dr. and they increase my betablocker and give me some xanax.

  I got tired of feeling so blah from my Toprol xl, and still having those darn symptoms...  I started to google for some answers...what could be causing these, and how can I try to treat them naturally.

  I found the posting, by "Nick and George" on the Aloe Vera Gel Caps and I read something else about the Coq10.  I thought what have I got to lose..bought both on my lunch hour from GNC....the very next day.

Day 1...I felt less palps...Day 2 even bettter...Day 3...almost completly gone.  I have been suffering since the end of August, its now November 7th.  I feel so much better...I take the aloe as directed on bottle 3 per day...and coq10 50mg 1 time at dinner (per bottle insructions).  I also started some calcium-magnesium once per day.  Keep in mind, I have not stopped my Toprol, but take 50mg, and my b.p is 110/64.

  I was wondering if Nick knew of anything natural for anxiety?  Thats my next goal.

I feel pretty lucky to have found that discussion board...and I hope this regimen continues to work for me.Laughing

SO THANKS NICK!! for your research, postings and helping a woman all the way from Michigan, USA

Diane-

 
  Jonsie  Posted: 04/08/2010 03:06

Im a 21 year old female and have been suffering from these (what feels like...) my heart jumping since as far back as 12/13. Only recently I read an article and realised it was palpitations i was having as they only seem to happen when I am resting. However I am still slightly worried as i have been hospitalised numerous times before for things that a reason was never found for and I now fear they may have been heart related. I want to visit a doctor to get them checked out but as I dont usually (actually never would be more accurate) go to doctors I'm wondering how much I would be looking at for a visit.....us broke students and all that!!!!

 
  Van  Posted: 29/08/2010 02:59

I hope you find this useful. I’m free of this problem for 2 years now, but went thru 1 year with it. So I feel your pain, and maybe this can help…

I’m 35 years old. 3 years ago, out-of-the-blue, I started having palps. It got so bad that I’d go the entire day having over 5 palps a minute. I could feel each one. They were real, as recorded by one of those devices you wear for 24 hours. Yes, I thought I was going to die. Went thru the usual check-ups, including stress test, blood work, eco, etc… All was clear. The palps would get better at times (never completely disappear), and then worsen again.

My cardiologist recommended exercising… so I did. Running/walking a good 30 min. Still no results. Then I went to Beta blockers. A small dozes (a Tropol equivalent, if I remember well, 40 mg a day). That did the job. I took it for almost 8 months. But during the last 4 months, I was determined to get my body out of this drup dependency (it is a bit scary to see that you can no longer bring your heart rate above 130, while outside of the med you reached 170). So I researched, and researched, and researched … and of course I didn’t get to a single conclusion. After trying a bunch of stuff for close to 1 year, I locked down in the following “cocktail”, which worked well for me (don’t try this at will, talk first to your doc, to clear all other possibilities first, and remember, statistics tell us that very, very likely you are ok, but there yes, is a remote chance you have a problem, and if you do, your doc will catch it).

-          Your mind! It is “mostly” all there. Work it out! Yes, you body might be pre-wired for what you are experiencing. But if it wasn’t the palps, it would be something else! Fix your mind, first and foremost. I can’t over emphasize it. I’d recommend you read “The Divided Mind”, by John Sarno.

-          Exercise! Unless you are already during rigorous and frequent physical activity, to solve this problem you will have to “beef it up”. If you ran. Run longer, faster, more frequently. If you did nothing, start now! Again, consult your doc first!

-          Vitamins! Sure, why not? I take a third of the recommend daily doses of a regular multi-vitamin (any will do, really), plus an extra [higher] dose of the following: Vitamin C, Magnesium, B-Complex 50.

Like I said, this has been working for me for 2 years now. No more beta blockers. I did go without exercise for periods of 2 weeks at times (other illnesses prevented me from physical activities), and while I didn’t feel the palps, I did notice I started being more “aware” of my heart beats. So I try to keep it to it religiously. I am not saying other treatments won't work for you. You should definitely try Aloe (like I did), or some of the other harmless proposals found here. Each person is different. I can’t tell you what of the above did the trick for me, but I decided not to change a winning team.

Good luck, god bless you.

Vanderlei Silva

 

 
  theoldbean  Posted: 26/11/2010 01:52

Thank you so much for the following posts. sunnysuz Posted: 05/07/2009 13:19 sunnysuz Posted: 13/07/2009 21:22 SFFAR Posted: 14/07/2009 17:29 I have very rapid episodes of heartbeat, nowadays mostly irregularly as I have made the effort to try and look after myself health wise much more than in my youth! Your posts were reassuring! I can generally get my heart to stop doing its rapid beating within the space of a couple of minutes by getting down low on the ground, expanding my chest and drinking cool water. I have for years wondered whether my underwire bras had anything to do with the occasional issues, and I too will immediately remove them when an episode starts. Likewise, the comments about being too hot and especially after showers! Thank you so much. I had an episode this morning at work after a very bad sleep overnight - day 5 of my period and at my age (47) I guess the hormones are playing a major role here - this is my "pill free" week so there are no artificial hormones propping me up. I hope I am not going to have even more issues as menopause really kicks in!

 
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  Fishboy  Posted: 11/06/2011 01:44

Hi,

I've just joined and i'm trying to educate myself on palpitations. I've had them very intermittently over the last few years but since Easter they have become a worry. I have had anxiety since Christmas as my mum has Motor-neurone and maybe I have tried a little too hard at times. I also have got slightly light-headed with them. I have gone to my GP and she referred me to a cardiac consultant who put me through all the usual tests. I am an orienteer (50 yrs of age). He is going to perform an angiogram soon as he found slight abnormal readings and mild muscle build-up in the heart but it may be an athletes heart according to him. Time will educate and tell me. I don't like these palpitations  and i hope they are not precursors to cardiac problems for me. 

 
  Jonsie  Posted: 13/06/2011 16:59

I originally posted on this about a year ago discussing my palpitations however since then more things have come to light.

To begin with I had my bloods done recently (I was suffering from the side effects of overdosing on coffee but didn't realise it at the time!!!) and although my bloods were normal my cholesterol was 6.4 which the doctor said was nothing to worry about as im young and my hormones would balance it out, however the nurse seemed more concerned as im still only 21 years old and in her words having a cholesterol that high is not normal given that im of slim build aswell. She asked had i ever had a screening test done or history of cardiac problems in my family which there wasn't. Shortly after that however the local GAA club did voluntary heart screenings and my 15 year old brother was highlighted for having a long QT (apparently its a worry concerning sudden adult death syndrome) and was sent to the Mater hospital for more tests. The rest of the family had to have ECG's done, myself included, which all came back normal. My brother has been ruled out of playing any competitive sports much to his dismay and he's awaiting further testing. The end result could be him having a pacemaker fitted. I was looking up this SAD's thing just to find out more about it and came across some information that worried me....apparently symptoms of it can be palpitations(as i mentioned before) but also black outs which i suffer from as far back as the palpitations began in my early teens, i usually put them down to rushing around too quickly in the mornings as that seems to be when they occur most. Now however I've really freaked myself out and putting the high cholesterol on top of that, to say im a tad scared would be an understatement!! Don't wish to bring it up with the family doctor as my fathers already worried over my brother so do not want to make it worse on him!! If anyone as any information on this though I would be extremely grateful.

 
  Nick  Posted: 13/06/2011 19:51

Hi again... I'm just checking in from the hinterlands here in Canada.  I first posted many years ago when I started getting Palpitations in 2002.  I knew I could not live with them.   They had to go... or I had to go.  I was already a professional researcher at the time so I became a health/nutrition/phyto-science researcher.  Ten years later I am palpitation free for the last 4 years!  I found the risk factors and I learned a ton of stuff along the way.  Not everyone will like to hear it, but I don't care what you think.  The information is here for that 1%, or less, who are able to think outside the box.  

Palpitations (of my kind - ie those not related to physical issues like prolapsed mitral valves or scared purkinje fibers) are the result of internal inflammation. Internal inflammation is brought about by acid diets.  Alkalinity is the answer. A friend of mine who had ablation therapy was so disappointed when his palpitations came back! After ablation!!  He tried my regimen and is palp free today.  Another lady who suffered high blood pressure for 12 years was put on nasty acid pharmaceutical drugs which only partially worked.  She tried my regimen and in 10 days went back to her doctor with normal blood pressure.

What I've learned in the past 10 years is that Big Pharma and nearly all doctors work too closely.  Big Pharma cannot be trusted.  Big pharma doesn't care at all about you - except to the extent that you need to stay alive so that you can keep paying them.  Big pharma has to be ripped apart and rebuilt.  And the biggest of all is the US FDA.  They need to be completely disbanded, neutered, and toss away.

I read so many of your posts and I am saddened to see how many of you have bought into the game.  Cholesterol is NOT a problem.  It is homocystein.  You fix that with folic acid.  But Big Pharma doesn't like that known.  If you lower you cholesterol, you cause all kinds of other issue... for which BP will sell you more drugs.  You need cholesterol for brain function, joint lubrication and hormone development.  Stop trying to lower it!

You can go ahead and attack me for telling you the truth, but do one thing.  Keep this note.  If you live long enough, you will see I am right.

Cheers.Cool

ps... do a search for "Burzynski the movie" and learn more about Big Pharma and why you need to step back.

 
  Anonymous  Posted: 14/06/2011 12:59

Ho Jonsie sorry to hear about your brother, that is a worry but the good thing is, it has been discovered. Granted a cholesterol reading of 6.4 is high for someone your age, especially someone who is of slim build and athletic but did you find out the reading for LDL and HDL - the good and bad cholestoral as this will give you more information. If your diet is relatively healthy, it may be that the cholesterol is inherited. Bear in mind tho, that where a physical cause has been ruled out, the palpitions may well be worsened - or even caused, by anxiety. So the worrying you're doing  could be contributing to the proble itself. Caffiene can also be a contributary factor if you are sensitive to it. However, as well as giving yourself more time in the morning, there is no ned to be reluctant to bringf it up with your GP  - you're over 16, so anything your discuss, s/he is obliged to keep confidential.

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 19/06/2011 18:53

Good to see a post from you, Nick! You are my hero and have been for a few years, now.

I'm still trying to feel good about getting my palps under control. I just had an episode in February after my last one in October 2006. My blood iron was almost non-existant which was a major cause of this flare-up. I don't do (many) processed foods and soy since that seems to make my palps happen. I am lucky to have a GP who thinks a little outside the box on certain things. I'm fighting tooth and nail not to start on the drug regimine that everyone else buys into. I am ridiculed for this, but I don't care! My GP doesn't like me for telling my hubby to ask certain questions about the drugs he prescribes to him. 'Who's the doctor? Me or your wife?!' LOL!!!

Thanks for the info on the cholesterol and homocysteine. I'm told that I may need Big Pharma drugs for that if I can't get my bad cholesterol down and my good cholesterol higher. I don't take BP drugs, but I do take vitamins for my deficiencies. However, I need to switch all over to natural vitamins...not synthetic OTC stuff. Halfway there.

US FDA...BINGO! You've got their number and so do I! And, you're right when you say that only 1% of the population wants to hear about BP and the FDA. I feel like I bang my head against a wall when talking to some people who just don't want to hear the truth. They bring up the subject. It's all for the almighty dollar and not for any concern about human life.

I bought 'Cracking the Metabolic Code' and am reading that. I've also been reading articles on homocysteine overload, which you just confirmed in your last post below.

I also believe that an acidic diet is the way to go, but I'm totally confused with this. Can you direct me to more reading on this subject?

All help from you is greatly appreciated by me! Take care.

 
  Nick  Posted: 20/06/2011 20:40

Hi SFFAR,

Good to hear from you too!  You are one in a million!  And for that, you will live long and healthy life... and at the same time, you will be ridiculed if you talk about how you got there.  If you want to see the FDA taking their lumps, google "The Burzynksi Movie" .. or search it on Vimeo.  The first three minutes will rock you!  This doctor fought off attacks by the FDA and the National Cancer Insitute for 14 years.  It is an amazing story of courage.

Regarding palps, it is an Alkaline diet you want.  Processed foods and most of the foods westerners like are acidic.  This leads to inflammation and gas.  This triggers a nerve near the heart that interferes with rhythm.  If you want proof, then next time you get a episode of palps, take one or two extra strength GAS-X.  You're "palps" will subside within ten minutes. 

The medical instustry genuinely believes they are doing the right thing.  But they are owned by BP.  If your only solution is a pill, you'll see all your medical issues as symptoms.  Google lucidboomer and you will find me.  I'll send you anything you wish.  I have loads of articles.

High cholesterol is not a problem.  You will be healthier with it.  Lower the homocysteine.  Make sure you are taking at least 200 micrograms of folic acid daily.  When you contact me, I'll send you my own personal regimen.  You can look it over and ask any questions you want.

Nick.Cool

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 21/06/2011 13:10

Thanks Nick!

I meant Alkaline, but I wrote Acidic. Thanks for the correction. I searched for alkaline foods and found a great website for breast health that has a listing of alkaline and acidic foods. I already eat what's on the list, but I also eat too much from the 'bad' list.

I agree with the Gas-X thing, too. I give a great big burp (in private) when I feel like a palp coming on. (Not too ladylike, I admit.) That clears that for a while. That dang Vagus nerve! I've cut down on the amount of food I eat at a sitting to help that, too.

I'll give you a look-see. I gotta check out that movie, I'm sure!

Thanks for the response. Keep up your work!

Michelle

 
  CactusCoat  Posted: 31/05/2012 00:54

If you are trying to avoid aspartame you should know that it is an excititory glutamate and is related to MSG or monosodium glutamate.  You should avoid that also.  Google it to see the names that it can be given to hide it in food.

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 03/06/2012 20:33

Hey everyone!

I have a bit of news for all of you. Not just for us gals, but for the guys, too.

I am at 'that age' when bodyily things start changing. I have just started a regimen of bio-identical hormone replacement therapy. It's been several weeks now, and I may be jumping the gun here, but I'd like to say my heart palpitation feelings have pretty much gone away. Right now it is rare that I'll have a feeling that my heart wants to race and I get anxious feelings beforehand. I feel like a new person right now after starting this. 

Those of you who may want to get your hormone levels checked, may want to find a good physician who specializes in this form of therapy. It is NOT FDA approved and may cost a bit. DO NOT fall for chains of physicians who do this for a yearly cost plus all other costs. There are very reputable and caring physicians out there who think 'outside of the box' and cost a bit of money, but not even close to what you'd pay for the national chain hormone replacement. Do the research in your area and don't be afraid to ask questions. Those who've been doing this kind of therapy for a long time are those you'd want to consider. Right now, in my area, some physicians are just jumping on the bio-identical bandwagon because people want to be youthful and are really vain. Me, I don't care about that. All I want is to feel normal again. (You ladies know what I mean by this.)

I had been told by my GP and cardiologist that hormone levels wouldn't give me palps. They said it was something else and prescribed horrible meds, which I stopped taking after I started 'spacing out'. However, because of me going through 'the change' and it forcing me to do something, I found I was right. At least I think I am right because of the way I feel. I FEEL GREAT!

Like I said, I may be jumping the gun to say I feel great because of hormone replacement. But think...your endocrine system runs the whole shebang. If the hormones are out of whack, then 'you-know-what' hits the fan.

I just thought I'd give all of you something to think about.

Take care. Best of health to you.

 
  Jeremiah  Posted: 05/06/2012 16:22
 
  Devesh  Posted: 02/08/2012 07:39

Hi All,

For those who are Fat, Fair and Flabby (3 'F') and get Palps after meals (especially the lunch), and after lying down, please try Homeopathy medicine Calcarea Carb 200 and see the results!! I am sure you will get cured in some months. Normal frequency for the 200th potency is once a week. (Take 5-6 drops of liquid on buccal cavity). But I advice that you can also take it as soon as you get 'severe' palps after meals. Another symptom of Calc. Carb. patients is that they easily catch cold and cough.

Please remember that homeopathy will take time to cure, but the remedy will act sure footedly and with mathematical precision. Continue till you get well and stop immediately once you are cured.

Regards,

Devesh

 
  alo1  Posted: 14/11/2012 16:21

Hi, I suffer a lot of the time with heart palpitations in bed I had a triple by pass almost three years ago and since then I have them I am normal weight would it be the tablets I'm on that's causing them I suppose the doctor would be the next step for me.

 
  Jan13  Posted: 09/08/2013 13:11

My history in short:  Female.  Palps began, periodically, progressed, at age 40, am now 65.

Stress and other factors triggered Atrial Fibrillation.  It progressed, then had Ablation Surgery.   Afib stopped.  But I still was having the palps. (Found out that would take  a separate surgery to fix those/ that nerve/s.  ?

In the last year and a half I have lost over 60 lbs, eat healthy and exercise regularly.

My question:  Since I was still having palpatations, heart doctors insisted that I stay on Warfarin to thin my blood for the rest of my life.  Unless I missed a letter, no one else has mentioned being on blood thinner as a precaution against having a stroke ( due to the irregular beats with palps sometimes I guess).  Are other folks on blood thinner?

I am now using Nicks plan, doing great, palps down to a bare minimum, and I am still improving.  I am now visiting a bio identical hormone replacement doctor to see if there is further help there since my palps began same time as pre-menopausal symptoms began.    

I visited my heart doctor and told him I wanted off the Warfarin.  Looked at me like I was nuts, wouldn't condone it.  I think that may be to protect themselves if something goes wrong.  I understand that.  I told him I am stopping the warfarin, and asked if he would take care of me if a problem happened.  He said yes.

Thanks All.  And a special "thank God for you" to Nick.

                                           Jan13

 
  greengirl  Posted: 12/08/2013 12:32

Hi Jan 13,

I am 59 and had a ablation last year, the bad SVT's stopped but I am having

what I can only describe as hard thumps right in the middle of my chest. Does anyone else have this? as it makes me panicky.

As regards Warfarin, I was put on Asprin to protect against strokes, maybe you

could take this instead I take 75mg. of gastrol-tolerant asprin. Hope this helps.

What is the Nick diet? sounds interesting.

 
  Jan13  Posted: 13/08/2013 05:22

Hi Greengirl,

Contact Nick through this sight.  I did, and he was so kind to email a copy of his regimen. He is a palpatation suferer too, but through his research, came up with a regimen for himself that has him free of palps for 3 or more years.  I implimented his plan and am greatly improved.  

I may try the gastro-tolerant aspirin too.  My doctor said to take a full aspirin everyday but I am concerned about hurting my stomach.

When I had my ablation surgery, I didn't know that it fixed the biggest part of the problem but not all of it.  There remains the palpatations, that, like you, will bump pretty hard in the middle of chest.  To zap the nerve/s to stop the palps requires surgical entry on the other side of the chest cavity.  And one has to suffer really badly with palps before a heart surgeon will perform that surgery.

I am waiting to hear from another doctor regarding bio-identical hormone replacement therapy, hoping to further minimize the palps.

My best to you.     Thanks for your reply.           Jan13 

 
  robertalan  Posted: 23/09/2013 11:26

I am a 66 yrears old male of Irish origins living in the UK.I am very fit and run 5 to 6 miles every day. I have, however, long suffered from anxiety problems for which I have been treated on a number of occasions.

In July this year I started experiencing heart palpitations.This is my second episode of these-thefirst was in October to December last year.On this occasion my doctor gave me a physical examination and an ecg.All seemed ok and the palpitations eventually subsided.

I have seen my doctor about this reoccurrence of the palpitations a couple of times He eventually advised that I have a 24 hour ecg

It took a month for this to be arranged. As time went on I began to got more and more worried.I eventually had the test last week-Sept 18th and was told the results would take at least 7-10 days and would be sent to my doctor.The continual waiting this has caused my anxiety to go through the roof. It's got to the point where I can think of nothing else  and absolutely dread every single palpitation however small.I've got to the stage where I would rather hear bad news than no news at all.As each day passes the worry and dread just gets worse.

Has anyone else had had to wait ages for tests and results and nearly lost it with worry while waiting.Any help would be appreciated.

Robertalan.

 
  Jan13  Posted: 18/11/2013 17:10

Hello again, this is Jan13, 

Just wanted to add a little something I have learned that may help someone else diminish the strength of their palpatations.   I had bloodwork done to see if bio-identical hormone therapy would be of help to me.  Results showed my hormones are not a problem.  But one item did show up worth doing something about.   My vitamin B12 level was quite a bit below normal range.  B12 is needed in making red blood cells, also nerve health.

 B12, by mouth did not work for me, I now give my self B12 injections.  I am calmer, the sensation of panic when palpatations happen is greatly diminished, I don't notice if I'm having them most of the time.  

I hope this may be of help to anyone.          Thanks.       

 
  SFFAR  Posted: 19/11/2013 01:24

Hello, everyone. Please refer to my conversation with Nick on 6/20/2011. He mentioned that taking a Gas-X will help stop the palpitations within 10 minutes. I have been keeping a bottle of liquid antacid containing magnesium hydroxide 400mg in the fridge for a bout of stomach aches. When my palps started to rev-up, I started panicking. Then I remembered Nick's suggestion. I pulled out the antacid and took a big tablespoon of the stuff. In 10 minutes the palps went away and I waited to see if they'd come back. They didn't. This may not help on all occasions, but it kept me from going to the hospital this time.I will try this first from now on.

I also bought and read 'The Sinatra Solution' by Dr. Stephen Sinatra, a board certified cardiologist. He has a LOT of good information in it for heart issues which doesn't include drugs. In this book it states a deficiency of magnesium can be an issue for those with heart issues. That is why I have the magnesium hydroxide antacid in my fridge and is why I believe it helped me in this case. This book is a MUST READ for all with heart issues! If you do read it, I hope it helps you as much as it has helped me. Your local library should have a copy on hand if you can't afford to buy a copy. I hope you do read it.

Because of 'The Sinatra Solution', I've added CoQ10 to my diet every day with what I feel is great success. I won't be without it.

I'm glad to see someone else is experiencing a bit of relief from HRT. Check it out. It can't hurt.

A BIG thanks to you, Nick. Keep up your research.

Good health to all of you!

 
  Tigh  Posted: 29/07/2014 00:47

I have a rapid heart beat of about 95 - 100 resting, but my blood pressure is fairly normal.  My G.P. was concerned as he stated with exertion this would rise more.

I assumed