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Patients facing six-year hospital wait
[Posted: Tue 21/07/2009 by Niall Hunter, Editor www.irishhealth.com]
Patients are having to wait for up to six years to see a consultant at an outpatient clinic in some major public hospitals, according to new figures.
Latest figures from the HSE show that the routine waiting time for an ear, nose and throat (ENT) outpatient appointment at Kerry General Hospital, Tralee, is currently 2,248 days, just over six years.
At Limerick Regional Hospital, patients have to wait three years (1,105 days) for an ENT outpatient appointment.
There are particularly long waits too in Co Louth Hospitals, where patients must wait nearly three years (1,032 days) for an orthopaedic appointment at Dundalk Hospital, and two-and-a-half years (912 days) for an ophthalmology appointment at Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital in Drogheda.
Other long waits include nearly three years (993 days) for an orthopaedic outpatient appointment at Tallaght Hospital in Dublin and nearly two-and-a half years (888 days) for an ENT appointment at University Hospital, Galway.
Patients have to wait one-and-a-half years (570 days) for an orthopaedic clinic appointment at Beaumont Hospital in Dublin. At Connolly Hospital in Dublin, there is a 600 day (just over one-and-a-half-years) wait for an ophthalmology clinic visit.
The figures, which look at routine waiting times, show that outpatient waiting times are generally longer in hospitals outside Cork and Dublin.
The specialties showing the longest waiting times are in orthopaedics, ENT and ophthalmology, according to the report. Some hospitals too have long waiting times for general surgery clinic appointments.
The HSE statistics, which cover 28 major hospitals around the country, deal with routine waiting times for paediatrics, ENT, ophthalmology, orthopaedics, general medicine and general surgery, and also give overall waiting time figures.
The hospital with the highest overall average waiting time among different specialties for an appointment in an outpatient clinic is Limerick Regional, where patients must wait an average of 592 days, over 18 months, for an appointment.
The second highest overall appointment waiting time is at University Hospital Galway, with a 420 day wait overall, while Waterford Regional is in third place at 342 days.
The highest overall waiting time for an outpatient visit among the major Dublin hospitals is recorded by Tallaght Hospital, at 243 days, while the lowest in Dublin is at St Vincent's at 48 days, which has the lowest overall outpatient wait in the country, apart from at the Mercy Hospital Cork, where it is only 26 days.
The following, based on HSE statistics extrapolated from its HealthStat figures for selected major hospitals and provided to irishhealth.com, are the outpatient waiting time figures (in number of days) in some of the major hospitals:
*AMNCH (Tallaght) - Overall - 243. Longest wait- Orthopaedics (993)
*Beaumont - Overall - 182. Longest wait - Orthopaedics (570).
*Connolly - Overall - 128. Longest wait - Ophthalmology (600).
*Cork University Hospital - Overall - 111. Longest wait - Ophthalmology (184).
*University Hospital, Galway - Overall - 420. Longest wait - ENT (888).
*Mater - Overall - 79. Longest wait - Orthopaedics (174).
*Limerick Regional - Overall - 592. Longest wait - ENT (1,105).
*Midland Regional, Portlaoise - Overall - 268. Longest wait - General Surgery (645).
*St James's - Overall - 120. Longest wait ENT (228).
*St Vincent's - Overall - 48. Longest wait - ENT (75).
*Waterford Regional - Overall - 342. Longest wait - ENT (790).
*Kerry General, Tralee - Overall 323. Longest wait - ENT (2,248).
*Louth County Hospital, Dundalk - Overall 225. Longest wait - Orthopaedics (1,032)
*Our Lady of Lourdes, Drogheda - Overall 151. Longest wait - Ophthalmology (912)
*Wexford General - Overall - 122. Longest wait - General Surgery (200).
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hi that i would agree, but i went to my local TD and he got me seen to much sooner, i had to wait just a year. |
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So by closing nearly all of the smaller hospitals in the country and inevitably referring the patients that would normally attend the smaller hospitals to the larger ones listed above with already phenomenal waiting times, how is the problem to be solved? What are the waiting periods if you have private health insurance? - usually a few weeks, depending on the discipline. More private hospitals have opened recently, so private healthcare is faster for those who can afford it. This is a good service if you can afford it. What do those who can't afford the insurance premiums do? It would be really useful to know what the actual long-term plan for the HSE is. Reform of the HSE will obviously take time but we need a positive plan to look forward to. |
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Ireland is a nice place to vacation but I'm glad I don't have to live there under a socialist medical system. |
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2,248 days!!!!!!!!!!! A person could be dead by then! |
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Wareen we don't live under a "socialist" medical system. Sweden however has a socialised medical care system that is world renowned as being the goal to aim for in health care. We have a lot to learn from them. |
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Six years is crazy. If someone can survive that long it is questionable if they need the appointment in the first place! Betty |
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Cash under the table or sucking up to your local TD always beats a wait. |
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Ireland never changes local T.D. interference (deplorable) still carries on. I wonder what happens the poor soul who did not support the local T.D. or his party especially if there is no imminent election. |
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hi my husband has to wait till next august 2010 to be seen too for a heart specialist, now that is ridiculous |
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if your not seen within a 3 month period you have a right to go to the north or france or england .The h.s.e.have to pay for it. |
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Actually desmind, that ONLY applies to the NTPF - for treatment not consultation and the Dr. has to refer you to the NTPF. It is a disgrace that consultancy waiting lists are that long tho'. |
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I'm waiting for breast reconstruction after breast cancer and I'm waiting and waiting and waiting. I am told one thing when I will be in, then it changes. |
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hi that's a disgrace, I know it's not the hospital's fault, it's do to with the Government. |
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Hate to be the one to tell you but I waited 6 months for my operation and it was cancelled 6 times and yes I have private health insurance. But I believe cash is working well these days. |
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Hi Jenny, have you requested to be referred to the NTPF - that way you'll only have a couple of months to wait. |
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the ntpf is a very good thing but in my case they say it doesnt do breast reconstruction .so that leaves me back at the start ,im being passed from one person to another |
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Sorry to hear that Jenny. Would it help to go private? |
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Dont know but im on medical card and disability at the moment .i really dont think it makes a difference or at least it shouldnt |
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Dont see why it should-it's part of completion of original surgery. |
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Hi Jenny, ideally, it should not make a difference but I know for so many things medicla card patients seem to have a longer wait that anyone one else. It should be that way if we had an equitable system. |
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The problem with the Irish health system is that there aren't enough actually medical people in it. Too many pen-pushers. Like everything in this country, overpriced and below par. Check below for some examples. When a doctor has a problem finding a vein to put a cannula into ... It took the nurse 7 times to put it into my father's vein in a public Dublin hospital. It took the doctor 15 minutes to find the vein in a private hospital. Half Private + Half public = A Broken System. No public consultant should be allowed to perform private practice during public hours! At 220,000 euro (minimum) per year I think I would like them to work 9x5 Monday to Friday. I mean 9am not 9:30 or 9:45. 9:00am! |
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i had to wait 18 months for an outpatient neurologists appointment. i'm being seen for epilepsy and almost daily migraines. what would a person do if they went to their doctor to be referred to a neurologist for sudden persistent headaches if they were caused by a tumour? in a case like that the person could be dead before they ever even got the letter to say that an appointment has been arranged for whatever date. i was originally referred on the 19th of May2009 and got a letter in June 2010 to tell me that i would have my first appointment on the 6th of October2010.... my poor grandmother, who lives in Germany, started crying when i told her how long i had been waiting because she said that in Germany a person would never be kept waiting for a year and a half. the usual wait is about 2 weeks! and sooner if the symptoms suggest it could be something more sinister. the health care system in this country is a cemplete joke. since the government decided to "centralise" healthcare and take the services out of small hospitals the care has gone downhill something wicked. |
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The public health scam service. Budget;15 billion Euros a year for what? To provide a TROLLEY WAITING SERVICE FOR EMERGENCY PATIENTS THAT PRIVATE HOSPITALS DONT CATER FOR-nothing more.! |
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