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Dental implants come to Ireland
[Posted: Wed 24/01/2001 - www.irishhealth.com]
A new technique for implanting false teeth into the jaw could spell the end of dentures for many Irish people. The technique, which was developed in Sweden, has been introduced to Ireland by Dublin-based dentist, David Harris.
The dental implants, which are permanent, allow patients to undergo reconstructive surgery and have their new teeth fitted in a single visit to the dentist. The technique is widely available in Europe and is expected to be lunched in the United States later this year.
"The implants will ease the intense suffering faced by some people with dentures", explained Mr Harris. "The technique also reduces the chances of jaw bone deterioration and provides psychological benefits. It also restores their confidence".
Mr Harris is currently on a lecture tour of the country, introducing dentists to the new process. Training courses for dentists will commence in Dublin and London over the next few months.
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Anonymous
Posted:
21/02/2001 13:00 |
| What is the cost likely to be? Can it be used for single tooth replacement? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
26/02/2001 09:57 |
| how much will dental implants cost and where can it be done |
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Anonymous
Posted:
02/03/2001 10:57 |
| when,where & how much,ie single tooth replacement? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/03/2001 11:12 |
| Would someone answer the obvious question - please? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/03/2001 18:59 |
| This would be great, but how much would it cost? |
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Mary(maryproctor) Posted:
11/03/2001 22:50 |
| what is the cost of this and where can it be done |
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Anonymous
Posted:
12/03/2001 15:25 |
| How much would it cost and how long would it take, and is it a permanent job? |
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breandan(BObroin) Posted:
12/03/2001 16:25 |
| i had a dental implant carried out last year with superb success. my specialist used me as a dental class "guinea-pig" and so I paid c£600. i understand each implant normally costs around £2,000; expensive but worth it. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
20/03/2001 00:09 |
| Brilliant news. I just hope I can avail of it. When is it going to be available in Ireland. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/04/2001 16:12 |
| Will VHI and BUPA cover these implants ! |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/04/2001 16:38 |
| I've had a dental implant for almost two years that cost £2,300, however I did not get the impression it was a new practice and it took almost 8 months, start to finish so I believe this could be a different solution |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/04/2001 17:06 |
| What dentists will be the first to train in this procedure in Ireland? Where and who? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/04/2001 17:41 |
| What is the cost of this and where can it be done. When is it going to be available in Ireland. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/04/2001 18:02 |
| There is a web site called www.implants.com for all you ever wanted to know about dental implants! The cost for a single implant is approximately £2000 in rep. for a single implant which comprises first the implant surgery work, and second the restoritive dentistry bit- i.e fixing cosmetic tooth to implant.Process takes approx nine months to complete. Expensive stuff - but well worth it if you can afford it ! |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/04/2001 22:27 |
| what a brilliant thing, love to have it but assume it would be too expensive |
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natalie(sheilnat) Posted:
11/04/2001 11:51 |
| does medical card cover this procedure or your stamps |
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stephanie(stiana) Posted:
11/04/2001 15:47 |
| Although I still have my own teeth, and always dreaded the day should I for some reason or other have to have false teeth. I certainly would pay any price to have this treatment. It is a godsend ,brilliant. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
11/04/2001 17:08 |
| People are asking about implants and how much they cost etc. There is an article on this website all about it and where it is done in Ireland. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
12/04/2001 11:55 |
| OK you have our attention ! Can we have some hard facts please ? |
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Dominic M.(domok) Posted:
16/04/2001 10:37 |
| I would love to have further details of this proceedure. It seems like the answer to many prayers. List of Dentists doing the work, please, advice on app. cost of proceedure. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
17/04/2001 11:26 |
| Like everyone else I would like to know more. Does expenditure on dental implants qualify for tax relief or is it deemed to be cosmetic ? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
17/04/2001 14:50 |
| Many people are asking for more details about this procedure. The most up-to-date information is included in the feature on dental implants in the Dental Health section of the site. Dr David Harris is the leading authority on this procedure in Ireland, and holds a clinic at the Blackrock Clinic. He hopes to train other dentists in the procedure this year, and in the near future, prices should fall, and the procedure become much more widely available. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
17/04/2001 16:39 |
| What is the name of the contact doing these implants? and are they still looking for Guinea pigs as £2000 is a tad expensive. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
17/04/2001 17:06 |
| Sounds very interesting, but it would be nice to have more details on exactly what the treatment involves physically, plus costing. |
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Ken(kenkeogh) Posted:
17/04/2001 22:37 |
| I would be interested in finding out the cost involved |
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Anonymous
Posted:
22/04/2001 00:05 |
| Like so many other I am interested in cost of dental implants please. |
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irene(ghost) Posted:
25/04/2001 21:09 |
| Can dental implants be used in conjuction with other crowns? and can you claim tax relief on same? I think that if you have this work done on your upper jaw it will be considered as 'cosmetic' and non tax refundable whereas on your lower jaw it is non cosmetic and is! Does anybody know? |
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eric(drtobin) Posted:
06/05/2001 13:38 |
| what is mr harris,e;mail address |
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Anonymous
Posted:
13/05/2001 16:18 |
| Could the new cost effective technique for the lower jaw, now being carried out in Belfast, be used for the upper jaw too? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
31/07/2001 10:34 |
| I wish to have more information on this subject, for example how do I initiate contact with a practitioner who will carry out the procedure? |
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Maura(Mauram) Posted:
29/08/2001 04:49 |
| I just need an appointment, for assessment of my teeth, and what needs done, but cannot find a dentist in Kilkenny, ok definately Dublin........I have all - top 5 teeth missing, and regardless of cost, I cannot even get an appointment with the the top dentists here.......i am told all full up, not taking new clients.........so i have to travel........to where?, in ireland prefearbly........ |
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Anonymous
Posted:
22/09/2001 13:14 |
| There's a new dentist who has started practice in Dalkey in Dublin. My sister had a dental emergency last week & was referred to him. He doesn't have a major list because he's only just come back to Ireland - from London I think she said. Anyhow - he was really nice, very professional job. She said he was gorgeous too, which might make the experience more pleasant! |
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Anonymous
Posted:
08/11/2001 01:17 |
| I think something that makes people feel more confident in themselves should at least be affordable... |
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Lilian(finnvalleygirl) Posted:
28/11/2001 04:08 |
| The best (and least expensive) dental implant system I've come across so far is by two Italian specialists, Dr Antonio and Dr Giancarlo Di Giulio. Their website address is http://www.digiulio.co.uk/ and might be worth a try for anyone looking for an alternative to dentures. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
05/12/2001 08:44 |
| I have been informed that Dentists in the North of Ireland perform this procedure, Newry & Belfast. Much cheaper than quotes in Dublin. I have made enquires and have an appointment for an assessment. Will update as it progresses |
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Anonymous
Posted:
06/03/2003 10:52 |
| Ihave lots of teeth missing top and bottom, I am 64yrs of age. Would dental implants be feasible at this mature stage? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
22/09/2003 13:30 |
| Can you advise what it would cost for a complete set of tooth impants;how long it would take, is it a painful process and will there be a "bedding-in" period afterwards. How long will these implants last and is there a list of dentists in ireland doing this work?? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
04/10/2003 20:48 |
| Can you list the Dublin based proffesionals carrying out implant procedures? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
04/10/2003 20:48 |
| Can you list the Dublin based proffesionals carrying out implant procedures? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
01/04/2004 18:28 |
| Dental implants in Budapest cost 850 euros. The work is done by a highly qualified oral surgeon. |
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bernie(KXQ12194) Posted:
20/04/2004 13:56 |
| Would like to have a implant so I am looking for info. How much does one cost, is there and tax relief or insurance to cover same i.e. vhi and can the dentist do an implant? Does the procedure take many visits? Someone said it is cheaper in other countries is this true? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
22/04/2004 19:33 |
| How do I find more about dental implants carried out in Budapest? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
02/06/2004 18:18 |
| I,m thinking of going to hungary for a dental implant. Has anyone already been? I wld like to have some leads and info re pitfalls if there are any. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/06/2004 01:24 |
| I got the full rundown on Budapest. Who wants to know? |
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Julie(QIR14608) Posted:
12/06/2004 22:05 |
| i'm also thinking of going to budapest for crown replacement, has anybody heard anything negative about the treatment there? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
17/06/2004 16:46 |
| Where are implants available and what are the costs |
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John(johnmara) Posted:
18/06/2004 09:37 |
| To Anonymous dated 10/6/2004 at 01:24. You advise that you have full details on Dental implants in Budapest. Can you share them? |
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Gary(KDC14517) Posted:
18/06/2004 10:05 |
| They removed all contact info from my post which makes this thing a bit usless really. I'll try a web address. But it won't be there till late 18-06 0r 19-06. http://216.119.80.195/documents/dentist.doc |
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Anonymous
Posted:
21/06/2004 11:54 |
| what are the costs of dental implants and is ther a way of paying it off gradually as im only 19 and a student |
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Anonymous
Posted:
27/06/2004 12:29 |
| ive a front tooth missing and would be very interested in getting an implant,could i get it done in dublin, how much is it and whats the proceedure |
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Anonymous
Posted:
28/06/2004 07:04 |
| would appreciate more info on implant work in budapest. Thanks! |
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Anonymous
Posted:
01/07/2004 13:57 |
| Fantastic, but the treatment will probably be too expensive in Ireland for most people so the trips to Northern dental clinics will probably continue. In the old days people used to take the condom train to the North - now people are taking the dentist train instead! |
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Anonymous
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21/07/2004 10:42 |
| To Anonymous dated 10/06/04 Could you send me on any info on implants in Budapest |
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Anonymous
Posted:
21/07/2004 12:38 |
| There is an article in the Irish Dentist May issue page 33 > that details implants and what has to be done. |
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Gary(KDC14517) Posted:
21/07/2004 13:08 |
| As you propably see they remove all text that lets people actually communicate. However if you check the last couple of posts you'll see the link to the word doc they sent. |
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nikitas(NHS17163) Posted:
26/08/2004 11:47 |
| To Anonymous dated 1/04/2004.Do you know if the price of 850 Euro includes also the crown that is put on to the abutment,or is the cost of the implant only? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
06/09/2004 22:36 |
| The implant itself costs 850 euros and the crown costs 265 euros, there are no other costs involved. |
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Simon(BSP18054) Posted:
18/09/2004 22:39 |
| I recently have completed a complete dental overhaul with 4 implants, bridge work and 16 crowns, and am extremely satisfied with the results, I can finally smile with confidence again. The most pleasing part was how much I saved! By my calculations I saved over 20,000 euros and the quality was better than anything I had experienced before. How? I went to Budapest. After a quick search on Google, I came across a company who arranged everything for me. They even digitised my x-rays for me and sent me back a precise presentation of what the dentists recommendeded. I got a great deal in a hotel and they transported me about for free. I would definitely recommend the whole experience. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
31/05/2005 20:29 |
| I am very interested in dental implants in Budapest. Has anyone been? Is it genuine? Is it expensive........Are there hidden costs. Cork |
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Gary(KDC14517) Posted:
01/06/2005 10:33 |
| Go to the kreative(spelling wrong) website. Send an email to the irish rep. She'll ring you back immediatly. Very helpfull. I've been 10 days in dec and 2 weeks last month(complete overhaul!). The hotels a good laugh cause there's Irish people there and the dentist is brilliant. Go for it. Gary |
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Anonymous
Posted:
01/06/2005 21:56 |
| Thanks for that information Gary. Did you have implants? Was it expensive? Can you claim any tax back? Let me know. Cork |
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Gary(KDC14517) Posted:
02/06/2005 15:16 |
| No implants but loads there were haing them. Actually less 'stressfull' than what I had which was a mouthfull of bridges and crowns once you get over the mental image of how implant is done. Hotel is €30 a night. Transport if free and the prices are on there website. Food, drink and fags are v cheaap. Don't go mid summmer(vv hot) , the hotel is nice bt no Air C... Gary |
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Anonymous
Posted:
09/07/2005 21:27 |
| Can anyone advise me on a good dentist in Northern Ireland for Implants & Crowns |
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Olivia(IDV31206) Posted:
13/07/2005 19:03 |
| Dental Implants/Crowns Can anyone tell me the name of a good dentist in Northern Ireland |
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Anonymous
Posted:
14/08/2005 20:10 |
| Has anyone travelled to Kreativ Dental Clinic in Budapest recently? Any bad experiences? Please also suggest a good Clinic in Northern Ireland? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
19/08/2005 15:17 |
| Has anyone had treatment through "Dental Travel Hungary"? Any feedback welcome. |
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m(mnflong) Posted:
19/08/2005 16:48 |
| Implants can secure a full lower or upper denture, a crown for one missing tooth or a bridge for several missing teeth. Implants are done in 2 stages. The first stage involves inserting a titanium screw into the jawbone. This is the actual implant and this stage costs €790 in Budapest It can take between 3 to 6 months for the implant to be fully absorbed by the natural bone. After this the dentist attaches the crown or over-denture to the implant. Porcelain fused to metal crowns costs €200 each in Budapest. High Quality but Low Cost Dental Care. For Further information contact dentallux@yahoo.ie |
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m(mnflong) Posted:
19/08/2005 16:54 |
| Last December I had 11 crowns incorporating 3 bridges fitted while also having root canal and other minor treatment. I could not be happier with the treatment that I received not to mention the amazing savings that I made by having my treatment in Budapest. Since my visit several of my friends travelled on my recommendation to have treatment and all are extremely happy with the treatment they received. Others are planning to do so in the near future. mnflong@yahoo.com |
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dean(LBX33871) Posted:
01/09/2005 12:04 |
| I have done loads of research on the internet and picked 3 dental companies which I have visited in Budapest 2 months ago. The first one I went to , the dental equipment was very poor, they didn\'t even have a panoramic x-ray at the clinic. The implantologist is around 30 years of age with no more than 3 - 4 years of experience. The second clinic I visited the clinic was very well equipped with digital x-rays, computer system..etc. I met the main implantologist who has performed around 7500 implants the last 4 years (not something you come across often) and a Californian licensed aesthetic dentist. Third clinic I saw was located in a run down suburban area above a garage. The main implantologist didn\'t speak any English, and an other person had to translate, which wasn\'t what I expected at all. The clinic was quite dated and I was rushed through the assessment very quickly. It really wasn\'t hard to make a decision so I picked the second clinic and started my treatment the following day.... |
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s(pjotoole) Posted:
01/09/2005 15:24 |
| Great info here - has anyone had treatment in Budapest? |
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dean(LBX33871) Posted:
02/09/2005 23:49 |
| Dear Editor, My previous e-mail was altered and does not say what it meant. I met people who experience very poor quality treatment in Hungary because they weren't given the right information. I wander if you have any interest in advertising certain companies... I thought that this website was genuine but now I doubt.... What a shame... Dean |
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Anonymous
Posted:
05/09/2005 10:01 |
| I'm just back from Budapest having had a wonderful time and excellent dental treatment. I went through Dental Travel Hungary, whose director, Balazs, ferried me to and from the dentist, showed me the city and made sure everything went smoothly. A very positive experience all round. |
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Gary(KDC14517) Posted:
05/09/2005 12:08 |
| In reply to to Dean. I was at the place above the garage twice. 10+14 days and I and everybody else there were VERY impressed with the work. Its now 9 months later and i'm still 'smileing' speaking english wasn't a problem as neither could I with a mouth full of fingers. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
06/09/2005 00:40 |
| If anyone saw the skyone programme tonight about dental disastors, they would realise that the location of a dental surgery is very insignificant and it would be very foolish to use that as your yardstick. A guy from Fife in Scotland travelled to a very plush dental surgery in the south of England to have 4 implants placed, they all fell out on the return train journey. Its hard to know who to trust in this business, my advice is to ask for references and to get the minimum treatment. Kreativ Dental are not the most glamorous of clinics in Budapest but they are good and they started a trend which other clinics are trying to copy. |
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christine(JBD34362) Posted:
11/09/2005 15:13 |
| how much do dental implants cost? Can I have them done at a low cost rate in a dental hospital |
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Michael(NGP35336) Posted:
30/09/2005 10:00 |
| Dean, I believe the clinic above the garage is Kreativ. Can you tell us the name of the second clinic, which was the one you subsequently used and whether their treatment matched their facilities? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
30/09/2005 10:50 |
| Check out the dental discussions on the Hungarian forum on tripadvisor.com. Quite a lot of bad experiences with Kreativ it seems. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
05/10/2005 17:39 |
| hi, i have been reading this message board and would highly reccommend having implants for around £650- (alternatively mini implants -only £500 each)done in Hungary. A friend of mine saved up £17000, recently with a hungarian dental travel company. |
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Patricia(GMC11099) Posted:
09/10/2005 16:09 |
| I can provide name of good dentist in Northern Ireland (mine) but I need an email address to tell you, since I expect I cannot put his name up here on the board. He is also right on the border, so that bit closer, and his surgery is absolutely high-tech. I would not travel to any of the countries mentioned, because you would have no come-back if something went wrong, and I wonder about their qualifications...... P |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/10/2005 14:01 |
| The dentists in Hungary are extremely well qualified. Many of them have experience in the UK and Germany. The Austrians, Swiss and Germans have been going to them in droves for years and I doubt that they would settle for second best. Their equipment and materials are all sourced from the same places as any other dentists use. And they give far longer guarantees on their work than our boys. Some will even pay your expenses to go back out if there is a problem. That wouldn't be the case if they were expecting to have many. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
11/10/2005 10:34 |
| I have had root canals done and thay have gone discoulored in the front teeth, which looks very bad. I want now to get them crowned of ill even get dentures if it will help. I need this done quickly because i feel that i cant talk to people anymore. Anyone know how i can get help? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
13/10/2005 20:44 |
| info on root canals and crowns email dentallux@eircom.net |
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Anonymous
Posted:
14/10/2005 10:29 |
| info also on dentaltravelhungary.ie |
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Francois Posted:
14/10/2005 11:01 |
| If you need good address in a serious dental clinic, for implant in Budapest, just contact me: noblefrancois@yahoo.fr |
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MG Posted:
26/10/2005 23:27 |
| Hi- Patricia, if send dentist name would be good as need an implant to replace 7 bottom teeth whelanmg@indigo.ie |
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MG Posted:
26/10/2005 23:33 |
| Is it possible to have VHI contribute to implant. I am wearing dentures since teens because of accident. I have been with VHI for 25 years. Is it possible to receive even a partial contribution. If have work done in North is it possible to claim of Revenue here? whelanmg@indigo.ie |
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Emily(HZE25637) Posted:
30/10/2005 21:15 |
| What? Dental implants were only introduced in Ireland in 2001? Is this a joke? So anyone who lost a tooth before that needed dentures? |
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Anonymous
Posted:
04/11/2005 13:57 |
| I have been to a dental practice up the North and I am due to have an implant done in a couple of weeks. I was quoted £1600, is this normal or expensive? Thank you |
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simon(CWZ37251) Posted:
06/11/2005 15:00 |
| I would like to hear from people with good and bad experiences of Dental implants in Hungary. thankyou, Simon. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
14/11/2005 21:51 |
| Dentistphobic here. Need alot of work done. Replacement for four teeth, and possible veneers. But last time i plucked up the courage, which took years, to sort it i overheard the hygenist jesting in bad taste in the next room about what my oral health was like. I never returned, i felt so bad, and considering this was a top practice in Scotland, it made it all the worse. I want to sort it out, so i can allow myself to have a partner, so i can kiss them, or to just smile in confidence. Can anyone suggest an understanding dentist in Dublin or Newry, who would offer payment plan options, and competitive prices. Can anyone give me a guide to what treatments costs here? thanks. C. gigzo@hotmail.co.uk |
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micky Posted:
14/02/2006 00:49 |
| where could i get info about getting my full upper dentures replaced with implants and the cost involved. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
15/02/2006 13:03 |
| To Micky re implants info send an email to info@budapestdentists.com |
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Anonymous
Posted:
15/02/2006 14:23 |
| Try contacting the kreativ Dental clinic in Budapest. There is a bit of a waiting list but in my opinion, they are very good. |
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dean(LBX33871) Posted:
23/02/2006 01:25 |
| Hi Michael(NGP35336), If you need any more info on the clinic I used you can contact me on: deanburns2@hotmail.co.uk Regards, Dean |
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E(eoflahertcd) Posted:
09/03/2006 15:25 |
| I am a dentist based in Dublin. I had an open mind for a while on dental treatment in Hungary etc but have seen the unfortunate consequences of these "cheap" clinics first hand. One patient I saw recently had continuous pain for 6 months. She had to take strong painkillers for 6 months. At that stage they made crowns over her implants and the pain continued. She has now finally decided to have the implants removed. The problem was that the treatment was rushed into fewer stages than necessary. They didnt allow the bone to heal and so the implants failed.Now she has had pain for nearly a year, been over and back to Hungary half a dozen times and really does not want to go back. The main reason the treatments are cheap in Hungary is due to the vast amount of treatment they carry out. Unlike in Ireland where each tooth is assessed individually it seems in Hungary that every tooth that can be treated gets treated. I have seen dozens of teeth crowned for absolutely no reason other than to make the visit more profitable for the Hungarian dentist. I have seen patients getting a bridge AND implants when implants OR a bridge would work perfectly. They do this because when people compare prices they ask how much is a crown/implant and get a good price. Unfortunately they get good tooth removed unnecessarily and have unnecessary procedures. One time the rep for a hungarian dentist came in as a patient to me in pain. The tooth that was hurting her had gotten an unnecessary crown and now needed a root canal treatment. People should remember cheap treatment is only cheap if it is NECESSARY and of HIGH QUALITY. Implants and precious metals are NOT CHEAP so if a dentist is providing them cheaply either the materials are cheap or they are possibly doing too many unnecessarily as I have seen time and time again. |
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E(eoflahertcd) Posted:
09/03/2006 16:29 |
| The implant type referred to in this thread is the "teeth in a day". The procedure is preplanned on computer having got a CT scan of the patient. The implants are placed using a computer manufactured guide via keyhole surgery and a bridge is screwed on immediately. The cost varies but in my surgery we charge €10,000 per jaw treated. If you would like to view a video of the procedure please e-mail info@irishdentalcare.com |
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Anonymous
Posted:
10/03/2006 12:02 |
| That rings true with me. I enquired about getting 13 amalgam fillings replaced, 2 chipped front teeth repaired, a grey root-canalled one improved and the whole lot whitened. I was originally offered 28 crowns (I only have 28 teeth) and full open gum surgery for advanced periodontitis in all 4 quadrants based on a panoramic xray I sent them. This was all to be done within a week. In the end I went to a different dentist, still Hungarian. He said all the amalgams could be replaced with white fillings. Crowning would be far more profitable, quicker and easier for him, but he didn\'t think it was the best treatment. I had no sign of any significant gum disease and did not need any surgery. The front teeth, he felt would be best treated by crowning. As for the whitening, he said he would be delighted to do it as it was quite profitable for him but he wouldn\'t recommend it as the crowns would always remain white while my natural teeth would constantly need touching up to match. He reckoned that once the front ones were crowned and chip free, I wouldn\'t be so bothered about the overall colour. He was right. In the end I saved nearly 10,000 euro and kept almost all my own teeth. I got 4 crowns for 940 euro and so far, they are doing fine! So not all Hungarian dentists are money-grabbbers, but I would be very careful. |
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Sarah(KOE41548) Posted:
15/03/2006 09:38 |
| Hi Patricia, can you email me the dentists name on the border? Thanks a mill :-) s_mulvihill@hotmail.com |
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Simon(MKC43816) Posted:
20/03/2006 11:24 |
| I have heard of some horror stories about dentists everywhere but I\'ve recently heard very good things about a company who seemingly use a dentist in Hungary. I heard of someone who went there and came back raving about the quality and care taken. The dentist was very reluctant to do unnecessary work even though it would be more money for him and he\'s absolutely brilliant at his job. From my understanding of it dentistry in Hungary is cheaper because a dentist there can live to the same standard as an Irish one on half the income or less. Simple as that. Don\'t know if there\'s a waiting list but worth a shot. |
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Anonymous
Posted:
29/03/2006 16:02 |
| Hi Patricia or Sarah Can you give me the dentist name on the border?? Thanks lisak_lk@yahoo.ie |
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fee Posted:
03/04/2006 13:41 |
| Patricia, Does that dentist on the border do tooth implants? if so, could i get his details please, fionaankers@eircom.net thanx. |
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fi Posted:
03/04/2006 13:48 |
| Patricia, Could i get the details of that dentist on the border :-) thanks |
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Dee(OVY35855) Posted:
03/04/2006 18:40 |
| where can i get dental implants in ireland? wahat city? |
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Mike Posted:
21/06/2006 22:38 |
| I have just returned from Hungary having had implants, fillings and crowns. I was very happy with my treatment. However I found one of the other organisations to be second rate,disorganised, production line outfit. Irish & UK dentists are overcharging racketeers.They hate people getting treatment abroad because it shows them up for what they are. Don\'t take any notice of the scare story by the dentist above. I have no commercial or financial interest in any overseas dentist, just a satisfied customer who loathes crooks!! |
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Brian Posted:
10/07/2006 09:32 |
| I see that there is some positive feedback from people going to Budapest in Hungary for their dental implants. I am booked up for a visit there in September. The company has a London based representative. I made my flight bookings on the internet and then she arranged a self-catering apartment and transfers are done by the clinic. I'm staying long enough to do some touring to the wine regions. You can do your own research on the internet. www.ourhungary.co.uk is the tour operator's site and there is a link to www.dentalimplantsinhungary.co.uk I'm going with a small group so I have made a webpage with links to all sorts of tourism attractions and information about museums and the towns we will be visiting. Here is the URL: www.btinternet.com/~initiative.cafe/dentalholidayscalendar.html |
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geraldine Posted:
13/07/2006 21:03 |
| patricia,can you advise dentist on the border |
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Anonymous
Posted:
14/07/2006 11:10 |
| I had work done at a clinic in Budapest and it was absolutely great. The clinic was Blackrock clinic standard - quite a susprise. The oral surgeon has done 100,000 implants and is a real expert and speaks great English. He has a great approach and wanted to save as many teeth as possible. I have no axe to grind with Irish dentists but they are very quick to put us off treatment abroad. I know of horror cases in Ireland but that\'s not a reson to avoid Ireland is it ? So why use one or two examples of crooks abroad to put people off going abroad. My experience of dental work in Hungary is completely positive partly because these guys are used to dealing with lots of foreigners and are very efficient and service orientated. Come on Irish dentists use better arguments and we\'ll consider going back ! |
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Anonymous
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08/08/2006 18:10 |
| On 5th October last, I wrote in glowing terms about my dental experience in Budapest. I am still delighted with the dental work but based on further experience with the agent concerned,would have to say, BE CAREFUL. The feeling myself and a friend were left with last November and last week was that foreigners are viewed as wealthy and stupid. A year ago he was falling over backwards to please us and make sure we had a good time. Not so now. In a foreign country with a very different language and different currency etc, you need to be able to trust the people you are dealing with. As I say, I have no problem with the actual dental treatment. I just didn't like the unprofessional attempts to take advantage during tours of the city. |
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Anonymous
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09/08/2006 12:45 |
| I think you need to talk to people who have been there and go with one with an Irish presence if possible. Service is paramount. Maybe moreso than cost. |
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Emerald Posted:
21/08/2006 00:08 |
| Patricia, or anyone who knows!! If you're still reading these could you please send me the name of that dentist on the border! Cheers! nlpmessage@hotmail.com |
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James(AVI51077) Posted:
25/08/2006 17:52 |
| Hi - I'm researching the topic of this discussion for implants I would like to have carried out. I would obviously like to have this done as cost-efficiently as possible, without compromising the quality of the work, so obviously Hungary sounds like an appealing option. For all of you who have had positive experiences there, would it be possible to obtain the name / practice of the technician whom you have used? I will supply my email if you'd prefer, thanks, James. |
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Anon90 Posted:
25/08/2006 20:38 |
| Has anyone looked into going abraod (Hungary etc) for dental work? specifically implants? Any experiences to report??? |
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Gary Posted:
28/08/2006 13:31 |
| Heres my suggestion kreativdent Just google it and go to the .ie version. I'm the first comment on there(GS). That pretty much sums it up. |
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dentalcare32 Posted:
15/09/2006 17:51 |
| Dental tourism is the buzz word these days. One of the leaders is India where there is vast talent of dental professionals highly educated, experienced and many having undergone advanced studies and work in US, UK and other advanced European countries providing quality dental work at just 30% cost, mainly due to currency exchange differential. There are several dental clinics that may be even better than what one would find in US or Europe. An interesting website to visit and no harm to find out best deal www.dentalcare-indiatour.com |
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Anonymous
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18/09/2006 21:01 |
| Regarding going abroad for treatment, check out tripadvisor.com for reviews. The bottom line is, there is great dental treatment out there for great value but you have to do your research and beware. |
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Simon(MKC43816) Posted:
19/09/2006 13:00 |
| Someone asked about dental treatment in Hungary. I got lots of work done but the main things were (a) complete handholding all the way through and (b) a brilliant dentist who spoke perfect English. Simon |
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sarah Posted:
08/10/2006 11:43 |
| I have had my implants in portugal (though Belgian dentist ) what a different experience . cheap flights and affordable (half price !) teeth that made me happy !! |
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Anonymous
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08/10/2006 11:48 |
| the Algarve to me was best option . cheap and closeby . everyone speaks fluent English .almost like at home but betterand affordable |
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veebee Posted:
23/10/2006 19:35 |
| Hi.can you tell me the cost of your implants in the Algarve and who did them.Thanks a lot. |
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dentalcare32 Posted:
24/10/2006 13:05 |
| The very competitive cost of treatment that I came across is dental implant USD 850, ceramic crown USD 250, porcelain veneer USD 250 and root canal USD 110. This can be verified sending direct email at smile@dentalcare-indiatour.com |
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Gabriel(PDD47748) Posted:
22/11/2006 13:45 |
| I am a dentist interested in furthering my knoledge in dental implants. I would indeed be pleased if assistance in this direction is given to me. Thanks for your anticipated cooperation. |
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sarah Posted:
23/11/2006 10:20 |
| I found back the email contact in Algarve .ask prices at info@crispiessensclinic.com. the Dr. told me they also organise courses . |
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Bridge Posted:
16/04/2007 15:42 |
| I have a full set of dentures for 30odd years and hated every minute I have them, could I get implants/bridges like are mentioned "teeth in a day". I have a little inheritance which I would gladly spend on having what would feel like my own teeth. €10,000 euro per jaw, would that be 20,000 for a whole mouthful? I would gladly spend that. |
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dunner Posted:
16/04/2007 21:35 |
| What is the cost of dental implants in portugal? |
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Bernadette(LXV63110) Posted:
02/07/2007 18:40 |
| Looking for Dental Surgery in Dublin, Meath or border region bernsdeooley@eircom.net |
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Anonymous
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07/07/2007 04:22 |
| How much do implants cost? |
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Anonymous
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17/08/2007 16:04 |
| I've also been looking into travelling to Hungary for Dental Work. Has anyone had any experineces with Access-Smile.ie or hungarydental.ie?? Having looked at the two websites I notice that both contain the same dentist! |
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Anonymous
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21/08/2007 13:16 |
| I had dental treatment in Hungary, with which I was very pleased for the first year or so. But, my crowns have since broken and are in the process of being replaced. It turns out that the Hungarian dentist so over-prepared my teeth that the little pegs he left are unnecessarily weak and the teeth are all dead and in need of root canal treatment. The bottom line is, that I am going to have to spend way more than if I had gone to an Irish dentist in the 1st place and my teeth have been severely damaged. To make it worse, at least one of the teeth didn't even need to be crowned at all. The dentist I am now attending says he and some of his colleagues spend huge amounts of time repairing foreign dental work. Sometimes the damage done cannot be fully repaired and may cost enormous sums of money. So BEWARE. |
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Pat(OWR64768) Posted:
10/09/2007 12:18 |
| Patricia (GMC11099) Can you please let me have the name of the dentist in N.Ireland urgently. pat@nll.ie |
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Anonymous
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12/09/2007 19:52 |
| Hi I'm not sure if I am logged into the right section or not but if not perhaps you could let me know where to go. I would like if any of you got dental implant treatment done, either abroad or up the North? If so, what was the cost, how long did you have to stay and would you recommend it. Any feedback would be really appreciated. Many thanks |
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Margaret(EWV19527) Posted:
13/09/2007 20:18 |
| Simon(MKC43816) Simon could you give me the name of the dentist you attended in Budapest please. Many thanks Mary |
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sholto Posted:
01/10/2007 11:22 |
| You do need to be careful about the dentists you work with abroad, as you need to be careful with with local dentists. Hungarian dentists tend to be very highly trained and it is not worth buying the very cheapest since you get what you pay for! You do save a lot of money with dental implants in hungary which for many people is the key requirement |
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cathy(SVD66182) Posted:
06/11/2007 18:50 |
| Hi I am looking for information on dental implants / part deux.. I had implants for full set in lower jaw ..the implants were a success and done by a lovely Dr Spencer Wolfe, in Dublin..however the second part - the actual teeth ..was done very unsatisfactorily by a dentist in Limerick..he was unhelpful, and they are a disaster. I would like to simply replace this set..any one ANY IDEA where I should or could go..please.. cniriain2003@gmail.com |
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Cass Posted:
16/11/2007 10:26 |
| I am 58 years old and lost my natural teeth in a bad accident when I was in my early 20's - have since worn dentures but lack of bone etc is causing major problems. Can anyone recommend an expert dental implant dentist - I live in Northern Ireland. |
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aine Posted:
24/11/2007 15:06 |
| To Cathy SVD66182. I am interested in finding out did you manage to locate a dentist yet and your end result |
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aine Posted:
24/11/2007 15:23 |
| Hi Cathy, Did you find a dentist yet. I am interested you know. As I found one in Dublin. |
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cathy(SVD66182) Posted:
26/11/2007 15:24 |
| Hi Aine ye I received an email from one in Limerick..I will go see him in Dec as he is away at mo.. do you want details?? |
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aine Posted:
27/11/2007 11:50 |
| Thanks, Cathy. I have an appointment on Thurs. with a Dentist in Dublin, which is nearer to me. Dont know anything about him though. |
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Dan Posted:
23/01/2008 12:05 |
| Hi. I need to get some dental work done. The costs here in Ireland are frightening alright. Thinking of going to the North or maybe Hungary. Can anyone email me the name of any good dentists in either of those places and tell me their experiences with the dentist. Names and prices would be great to know. Thanks. Dan. dobcastlemaine@yahoo.co.uk |
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Pearl Posted:
06/02/2008 20:35 |
| Hi all, as a UK dentist working here for the last 9 years, I can reliably inform you that finding your dentist on a cost basis alone is a risky business, especially if you need complex work carried out.I have had plenty of experience with substandard or inappropriate work from many countries (including Ireland). The problems involved in 'undoing' bad work and then replacing it are considerable. If you insist on travelling, at least get a full assessment and treatment plan from a recommended dentist here before you go. If we say we need 6 months and 15 visits to do the work, we're not making it up, as why would we postpone you paying us? If the dentist abroad can do it in 3 weeks and 4 visits, you seriously need to consider why! |
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Cathy Posted:
23/02/2008 00:03 |
| could someone please e-mail me name of the best dentist in Budapest. Need to get implants done and I'm really scared i'll pick the wrong one. cathy - havens@eircom.net |
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aine Posted:
25/02/2008 19:02 |
| To Cathy. I dont know where you are living, but, I definitely would not go abroad, I agree with Pearl!s answer. I am having implants done at present in Dublin and my first appointment was last Nov. and I will have approx. 10 visits.. Now have done my research well beforehand regarding going to Hungary, etc, and how they were able to give me quotations from an x-ray, I do not know. Mt Dentist took 2 hrs. consultation regaring a cat scan on my mouth, maybe (cat is the wrong word) , and then discussed with me what needed to be done and gave me a quotation. I have to say I look forward to going to a Dentist the first time in my life, I have never felt pain during and after. I definitely would not recommend going abroad unless your talking about 1 implant. How they say they can do them in 2 visits is beyond me. Also, if you have pain or other problems, its nice to know your Dentist in Ireland is at hand. If you would like to contact me I would be happy to give you details. Aine |
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Cathy Posted:
27/02/2008 17:41 |
| Aine, thank for your info. I was afraid you were going to say that. The dental work I'd need would be very expensive for me in Dublin so I was hoping to have to done in hungary for half the cost (or cost it says in their advertisements) I'd need a couple of implants done and as my dentist has quoted me 2,000 per implant (and thats in sterling, I live in Dublin but recently have been going to Newry for treatment) I have dentures at the moment and THEY ARE SO HARD TO GET USED TO1 i hate them. I've been told my previous bridge wont work for me any more as the roots I did have which were anchored onto my bridge have to be removed and I so miss having teeth which are permanently there. I'm glad its worked out for you and if I'm not fully satisfied with any answers I get from any of the Budapest contacts, I may be looking for name of your dentist yet. Thanks a lot for replying |
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Pearldental Posted:
27/02/2008 19:16 |
| Hi Cathy, Be very careful before you head over to Hungary. I have nothing against dental treatment anywhere if it's done right, but in my experience, and that of a recent European study into 'dental tourism', the results are rarely ideal for complex work due to many factors. Aine is right in her posting- you cannot possibly diagnose, plan and quote for a course of treatment without even seeing the patient, and the follow-up and aftercare is generally woeful in my opinion. If you do travel, look into the situation regarding legal comeback if things don't work out, as one of the biggest problems we have found is resolving the situation if it goes wrong. They don't generally respond quite as quickly to your mail when you're in trouble! I don't mean to sound like a moany Irish dentist giving out, but i have seen too many cases where things have not been done to an acceptable standard, and the complications that can then arise are significant. Most of us here have ways of spreading payments or arranging healthcare loans to cover treatment, and i would urge you to consider all of your options very carefully before you hop on a plane. Hope it all works out, but some things just don't come cheap. |
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aine Posted:
27/02/2008 19:52 |
| To Cathy. I was quoted 2000 stg per implant in the North as well, but when I was referred to this Dentist in Blackrock and his price per implant was 2,000 euro, and if you are getting more than 1 implant done, he will do them cheaper. |
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aine Posted:
27/02/2008 20:30 |
| Cathy, If you would like to contact me regarding the implants. Im at okieffann@gmail.com I would be happy to hear from you. aine |
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lisa Posted:
28/02/2008 17:07 |
| hi all, im just about finished getting my implants done, im seeing a dentist in blackrock, he charged me 3000 euro for two implants, its 2000euro if ur only getting 1 tooth done and 1500euro per tooth for 2 or more, i cant recomend him enough im really happy, i just have 1 more visit and im finished, tempting as it is i would never go abroad to get the work done, yes its cheap but to get implants done it takes at least 6 months of work so as someone already said, u gotta ask urself if it takes so long over to get them done y is it only taking days to do them abroad, i have priced every dentist here in dublin and up north and i found my dentist to be the cheapest so as u can imagine i was abit weary going to him at first, but i can truly say he has done great work and really makes me feel at ease at every visit, can i just add that he does not put u asleep when getting the work done but apart from a nasty infection i caught(my own fault for smoking with an open wound) i never felt a thing and i am terrified of dentists, anyway if anyone wants anymore info about this dentist just let me know and ill be happy to pass it on. oh and can i just say i have never felt more confident than i feel now all thanks to my new teeth lol |
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Cathy Posted:
29/02/2008 14:32 |
| Lisa, Arent you the lucky one! so glad to hear everything going well with your implants. Actually, thanks to you and Aine it has made my rethink about going to Hungary at all and its great to hear its not that painful getting implants done as I thought it would be and surprised that my quote of STG2,000 was not htat cheap after all. I would definitely consider that perhaps with an easy payment plan if your dentist would accept that. I have five teeth missing and even though thought I would need good few implants,the Newry dentist said I'd need at least two implants, thought I'd need lot more. I only have these dentures few days but so far it feels like I'm talking through a lot of socks in my mouth. hope it gets easier, I'l have to see how it goes and think about implants later on towards end of year,in the meantime got to do some saving. thank you for your post its been so helpful |
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lisa Posted:
29/02/2008 15:13 |
| hi cathy, glad i could be of some help to u, u were saying u have 5 teeth missing and were told u will need 2 implants, well thats true, it doesnt actually work an implant for every tooth u can put 2 teeth maybe even 3 on 1 implant, anyway good luck with ur savings |
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Pearldental Posted:
29/02/2008 22:08 |
| Hi Cathy, glad that you've decided not to travel, as I've seen too many that go wrong. Lisa is right, you can generally add 2 teeth to 1 implant, depending on location in the mouth and bone support, and cost can usually be spread over the 6-9month treatment plan, with several schemes available to spread costs further. You will also be able to claim tax relief against the cost of implants at your marginal rate. Costs will vary depending on complexity of treatment, but usually will be more cost effective as numbers increase (i.e. if 2.5K for one, probably 4K for 2 etc.) I would advise you to get a treatment plan as soon as possible, as we sometimes need to begin treatment quite quickly to prevent bone loss after extraction. Once the plan is done, you also have a definite cost estimate to work towards, even if you don't start treatment straight away. Your dentures will become more comfortable, and will probably be adjusted to improve the fit after 8- 12 weeks, once the bone has healed, so don't give up yet! Finally, make sure you get any other treatment required out of the way, as implants are most successful in a perfectly healthy mouth. If you smoke, now is also the time to quit, as smoking is a big risk factor in implant success. Good luck with it all, let us know how you get on! |
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Mari-lu Posted:
03/03/2008 17:12 |
| Hi all, I'm so depressed today because my front tooth broke off at the gum line while eating breakfast this morning, I couldn't face the world so took the day off work. Now I'm in a panic as to how quickly I can get fixed up. My tooth was root treated & subsequently crowned after a school accident aged 9. Have had a few different crowns over the years after breaking them (never eating polo mints again!). Current crown is about 11-12 yrs old so it had a good innings I guess. Still, u want them to last forever... today is very distressing... I called a clinic in newry who can't give me an appointment until may (I can't stay home for 2 months!!) but after reading lisa & aine's posts i'm very interested in the blackrock dentist. I was led to believe that the dentists up north were cheaper... saw a quote of £1800 stg on a website. I live in northside dublin now so would be very interested to get quotes or reviews from dentists on this side of the liffey. Had some fillings & cleaning done in cabinteely in 2005/06 when i lived closer & was impressed. but couldn't afford to have my front crowns done at the time. now it's a case of necessity. still can't afford it tho! aine can i email u for the blackrock dentist details? |
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Pearldental Posted:
03/03/2008 22:27 |
| Hi Mari-lu, sounds like a bad day alright! My advice would be to get on to one of us ASAP, as we can usually come up with a temporary solution straightaway to give you a smile back whilst you plan the next stage of treatment. If costs are an issue, most dentists offer some form of payment plan, often via a third party, and this can all be planned in advance. For most of us, if your front tooth is broken, we will fit you in the same day or the day after to repair it provisionally, so that you can smile again. We know that you can't live without a front tooth with any self confidence, so get on the phone and find someone to put you together again. As for travelling, most of the more specialist dentists in the UK would be similar prices to here, as you can't cut corners on high end work, which a front tooth needs to be to look natural. You will find cheaper, but you often get what you pay for, so be careful, and factor in the cost of probably 5-9 trips as well, as it will probably require this number of visits. Hope you're sorted quickly,(and make sure you ring around until you are!), and be sure to let us know how you get on. |
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Cathy Posted:
15/03/2008 15:15 |
| anyone any info on cobalt chrome dentures? Heard that they're the Rolls Royce of dentures and fit more secure. I have temporary plastic ones at the mo and must admit, finding it hard to talk and eat. Any information would be greatly appreciated. |
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cathy Posted:
18/03/2008 11:39 |
| Hi Pearidental... Where are you situated? I have implants but want to replace the denture parts... thanks |
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Pearldental Posted:
18/03/2008 23:05 |
| Hi Cathy(s), I don't think I can put up addresses etc on the site, but if you mail me at reception@pearldental.ie, I'll get back to you with details. As regards Chrome/cobalt dentures, they are certainly a superior option in suitable cases, which means a completely stable and healthy set of teeth and gums. They are not great if they have to be altered later, so ideally you need to be sure that no other teeth are likely to be lost in the near future. They are a good bit more expensive than plastic, and may mean that you have to show a metal clasp if attachments have to be placed near to the front of the mouth. They also need a good dentist and technician, as they are technically more demanding than plastic. Another option you may have is a Valplast denture, which is a flexible plastic, and in appropriate cases works extremely well, giving good stability and comfort at a far cheaper price than chrome. Your dentist should be able to advise. Assuming that your dentist is advising you fully, you should end up with at least 4 options for your missing teeth, plastic denture, chrome denture, bridges and implants, with approx costs for each, and advice as to which is most appropriate or otherwise. You should then be in a position to make the right decision for you. Good luck! |
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Cathy Posted:
22/03/2008 23:50 |
| Mari-Lu - how did you get on. Did you get sorted about the missing tooth? |
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northsider Posted:
25/03/2008 21:46 |
| Found a fantastic dentist who places dental implants in dublin at northern ireland prices.The whole process took three months and i cant believe how easy it was.He also does sedation for nervous patients.When i went in for consultation i was informed that it was free.would recommend him highly. I aiso got 41% tax back in the form of a cheque from revenue,it will come in handy for a nice holiday |
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Mary(WUX70059) Posted:
30/03/2008 23:16 |
| can you believe this. my 40th birthday party is next weekend and while having my tea on thursday evening my tooth broke - fourth tooth from front and very visible. i was very upset. my dentist took me in on friday morning and because my tooth had been filled to capacity the front of my tooth and back wall cracked an fell away - i was left with a stump. My dentist was really very good and was able to recontruct a tooth for me having put a pin in. I am afraid to eat now and only have salads and smooties. My root is not suitable for a crown and think I will have to have an implant. I called a dental practise in waterford (as there is no body doing impants in wexford ) and the price for one tooth is 3200. Very expensive - i was thinking of travelling abroad but not sure now having read the stories. Northsider Can you email me the name of your dentist??? mkmullins@eircom.net |
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Dee Posted:
31/03/2008 14:00 |
| Implants can be expensive, can't they! I've heard a few horror stories re dentists in Eastern Europe too. I went to a Belgian guy in the Algarve, who was very good, and about half the price you were quoted. Got a nice break in the sun too. |
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tom Posted:
31/03/2008 17:49 |
| Lisa Could you send me the name of your Dentist in Blackrock where you got the denal implant work done.email to tomcccormack2906@hotmail.com |
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Mari-lu Posted:
31/03/2008 19:49 |
| Hi all I'm smiling again! Sent a barrage of emails to every dentist i found in the phone book & was very lucky to get a cancellation the next day at a surgery in N.I. Very nice dentist fitted a new temporary post & cemented up my crown until the middle of April when I'm going to get a lovely new crown & a crown/bridge to match on the other front tooth so I can throw away my denture!! All for stg£1450 which is very reasonable. Lucky me that my existing root treatment is still good so I don't need to get an implant. |
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Chris Posted:
22/04/2008 19:51 |
| Does anybody know if implants can be done where there is erosion of the gums due to gum disease? Chris |
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Pearldental Posted:
23/04/2008 19:49 |
| Hi Chris, Yes, implants can be placed after gum disease, but not without dealing with the gums first. Gum disease can affect implants, and our standard protocol is to ensure that you can maintain the gums around your teeth before we give you implants to try and maintain as well. If all the teeth are already gone, then assuming that enough bone is present, then implants can be placed, often with a removeable set of teeth fitted over the implants to ensure that you can maintain them properly. The main issue is the planning. The dentist needs to ensure that you are fully aware of how gum disease can impact on implants, and needs to plan the procedure very carefully to ensure that it is not a problem. There should be no rushing of a case like yours, as the foundations must be right before the house is built! |
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CARMELL Posted:
26/04/2008 21:37 |
| Does anyone know if you can get a Zygoma Fixture done in Ireland or Europe? |
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Sandra(HXS71001) Posted:
02/05/2008 11:35 |
| Hi Cathy/Lisa I have to get one implant, lower jaw but was told it would be about e3,500. could you send me the name of your dentist in Blackrock as he sounds like a much better option. mcka2001@yahoo.com |
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Sandra(HXS71001) Posted:
02/05/2008 12:22 |
| Hi I need to get a lower molar extracted and an implant. My dentist said it would be around e3,500, i would be really interested in hearing from Aine/Lisa and any others about better value treatment. Please get back to me on mcka2001@yahoo.com Any suggestions welcome |
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Millie(JTJ71014) Posted:
06/05/2008 21:25 |
| Hi Cathy/Lisa Please forward the name of your Dentist in Blackrock. Email : milliejai@yahoo .co.uk |
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Anonymous
Posted:
07/05/2008 12:26 |
| Hi Cathy/Lisa Could you also send me the name of your dentist in Blackrock. vicpat@eircom.net Thank you in advance |
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Cara Posted:
13/05/2008 06:59 |
| Just heard the dreaded news that I too will need dental implants. Would really appreciate details of who you attended Cathy, Aine, Lisa and anyone else who can recommend a good dental implant clinic. My email clancarthy@yahoo.ie. Thanks! |
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Cara(XFQ71262) Posted:
13/05/2008 18:47 |
| Just got the dreaded news that I will need an implant. Would appreciate if anyone with a positive experience of a successful implant could email details of that clinic at clancarty@yahoo.ie. Thanks! Cara |
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Anonymous
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19/05/2008 12:36 |
| Hi, I have to get a dental implant, can someone please e-mail me the name of the dentist in blackrock to thepaddocks3@eircom.net |
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Black(BFH71466) Posted:
20/05/2008 18:20 |
| Hi Cathy/Lisa Having had a denture for years, I'd really love to change it for an implant. It's just the cost that keeps putting me off :o( Would really appreciate any info regarding the dentist you went to in Blackrock. Email maroontag@gmail.com. Cheers ! |
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michelle(DHS71555) Posted:
23/05/2008 23:36 |
| Hi cathy/lisa. I am currently wearing braces which are making room for two implants. I would really appreciate if you could pass me on the details of the dentist who does the implants in Blackrock. email michelle.brn1@gmail.com Thanks a mill |
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Garyowen Posted:
17/06/2008 11:56 |
| Hi Cathy/Lisa, I would really appreciate if you would please forward name/contact details of the dentis in Blackrock who does dental implants?? My email address is gphelan0@gmail.com Thanks a mil |
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Carmelo(ZRD72525) Posted:
29/06/2008 13:22 |
| Hi Cathy/Lisa, I would really appreciate if you would please forward name/contact details of the dentis in Blackrock who does dental implants?? My email address is carmelo.pintagro@virgilio.it Thanks a mil Carmelo |
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impossible Posted:
01/07/2008 17:41 |
| i need some work done on my gob, am in dental vhi. where can i find (1) a dentist who'll fix me up (2)one who will accept vhi payments? i live in the west |
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lisa Posted:
02/07/2008 19:00 |
| hi anyone who was looking for me, sorry but for some reason i cant send emails, please contact me at lisatom3232@yahoo.com, and i can give you info on the blackrock dentist |
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James Posted:
03/07/2008 10:39 |
| Hi. I've been to Hungary for several times to get my teeth done. I understand how desperate you can be, but i have to say that I found the guys in Hungary treated me really well...I got some pain at home, sure, but in the end, everything's fine and i can eat and smile bravely and proudly. I've heard of a lady who got some problem with her crowns in Hungary, but with the guarantee she could get it fixed free! Here in Dublin i've never even start to think about going to a dentist, due to some really bad experience and my ex-wife is a dentist! |
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Max Posted:
07/07/2008 13:19 |
| HI I really would appreciate the name or email of the dentist in Blackrock. annking18@hotmail.com Thanks a mil |
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ESSIE Posted:
21/07/2008 16:05 |
| Dental Implants, I have Temporal Joint displacement and it affects the nerves in all of my Upper and lower jaw, and the teeth are now super sensative and its got to the point where I would now consider getting all of my teeth out, does anyone have an guess estimate of the cost to get the Dental Implants and do you know of an excellent dentist willing to do the procedure? HELP |
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Pearldental Posted:
21/07/2008 22:21 |
| Hi Essie, STOP, STOP, STOP! If it is TMJ dysfunction that you are suffering from, removing the teeth will not solve the problem, as the pain stimulus is not tooth initiated, and as a result can continue after teeth are long gone. Spending 20- 30k + having full clearance of teeth and replacement with implants is a colossal undertaking and an absolute last resort in any situation. Your first port of call should be a TMJ specialist, and if you send me an e-mail address I can refer you on to an internationally renowned specialist here in Dublin for full diagnostics and treatment planning. It may not be cheap, depending on the treatment required, but it will be buttons compared to full mouth implants. Whatever you do, make sure that you have exhausted every avenue before removing sound teeth, as the symptoms you describe could cover a multitude of non-tooth related conditions. If implants are recommended, I can obviously give you names of the most highly regarded surgeons in Dublin, but don't rush in! P |
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Cass Posted:
22/07/2008 08:44 |
| I am new to this board - am 58 years of age and have worn full dentures since 24 due to bad accident. I have a device in my lower jaw which supports an overdenture. Am in pain all the time as I do not think there is adequate bone in the jaw. I was told about a dentist who is in a private clinic and have an appointment with him next month. Fee alone for consultation and Xrays etc is very high so I know I wont be able to afford any treatment he can offer. |
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Max Posted:
22/07/2008 23:04 |
| Hi Peardental Can you please email me name of Implant specialist in dublin you recommeded to Essie. annking18@hotmail.com |
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ESSIE Posted:
24/07/2008 11:04 |
| Pearldental, thank you for the advice, I am currently seeing a specalist for the last 4 years, here in Dublin. To be honest it is the public waiting list and every time I attend the clinic I feel I get no where with them, each time a different doctor hmm. I also attended a private clinic in Donybrook and again the same sort of thing. I feel they are really not listening to me, and that they think the problem is not that bad, even though I tell them it is getting worse, please advise? Even if I pay private. Essie. |
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dil Posted:
31/07/2008 13:27 |
| I am new to this board. I have five missing teeth and would love to get the details of the dentist in blackrock. You can email me at dara.irwin@hotmail.com. Thank you. |
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Pearldental Posted:
31/07/2008 19:15 |
| Hi Essie, Sounds like you're not getting anywhere fast. What was the treatment plan from the clinic in Donnybrook? It may be more helpful if you mail me directly at paul@pearldental.ie, as I can then get a better idea of who you've seen and what has been tried to solve your problem, and can then advise from there. Let me know anyway, P |
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Hi in Dublin Posted:
01/08/2008 12:46 |
| I went to a dentist recently, a specialist, who charged €5,000 for a dental implant; and one of the patients in the waiting room had had hers fall out! It wasn't just the €5,000, it was also follow-up treatment and stuff falling out to think about. How long are these things supposed to last, does anyone know? |
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Pearldental Posted:
01/08/2008 22:04 |
| Hi in Dublin, Fall out they shouldn't. And as far as I'm concerned, if the implant fails initially, it is removed, replaced and restored for free, except in smokers. After initial failures, we guarantee everything for 5 years, including the crown on top of the implant, which is the most likely failure point, and there's no quibble on that unless advised before treatment begins. That also applies to crowns, veneers and bridegework. If your dentist offers no guarantees, ask why.... E5,000 for a straightforward implant is expensive, unless the aesthetic demands are exceptional, or bone remodelling is required. Around E3,000 is average fully restored price, with some places offering mini-implants for E1,500. These are designed as intermediate solutions, so be careful if that's what you're having placed, as they are less likely to last the 20 years or more that we expect conventional implants to last. Mini-implants were designed to be removed after conventional implant treatment was completed. More complex cases are more expensive, but at that price the guarantee should be quite comprehensive. You'll be hard pushed to find any consumer product at that price that has no warranty to back it up. Hope that helps, P |
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lia Posted:
11/08/2008 20:16 |
| Hi Cathy and Lisa, I am interested to get implant as well, been wearing dentures for years and they aren't the best. Do you have the details of the dentist at Blackrock ? my e-mail lialiu@gmail.com Thanks |
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Pearldental Posted:
14/08/2008 22:54 |
| Hi in Dublin, As it sounds like gum disease that led to the loss of the tooth, it is imperative that this be treated before any consideration is given to implant placement, as it generally affects more than just 1 tooth, and can also affect implants as well. Your first priority, if not dealt with already, should be to ensure that the gums are healthy for the rest of the mouth, and that you are using optimum oral hygiene techniques to keep them that way, usually under the care of a hygienist. Assuming that all is healthy, and that sufficient bone remains to anchor an implant, my recommended option is always a conventional implant over a mini-implant, as the stability of the conventional implant is far more reliable long-term. For a lower front tooth, it can sometimes be very tight to squeeze an implant in between the adjacent teeth, and this would need to be assessed as well. Hope that helps. |
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dimples Posted:
15/08/2008 12:21 |
| HI , Can anyone recommend a good dentist for carrying out implants at a good price? I have been getting various prices |
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hi in Dublin Posted:
15/08/2008 15:24 |
| hi, pearldental Yes, I have been to a dental hygienist and had a thorough job done in cleaning the gums; the tooth didn't fall out, it was taken out by the dentist and then put back in. As mini implants are available for €500, I would prefer to go that option; it's just a question of finding some way for the existing tooth to be anchored in place. Do you think that would be an option in this situation? Thanks for your information. |
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Pearldental Posted:
25/08/2008 19:58 |
| Hi in Dublin and Pat, In Dublin first- that may be a viable case for a mini-implant, but make sure you get a comprehensive guarantee of at least 5 years, parts and labour, as the biggest issue with mini-implants is the increased failure rate associated with them, particularly longer term. The training for them is generally only a 2 day course as well, so it's worth finding someone with a bit of experience, ideally in both conventional and mini-implants. Hope that helps. Pat, if you need implants, it would only be for the missing tooth/ teeth. Building up the rest of the bite can be undertaken in several ways, ranging from orthodontics (braces- and no, age is not a factor); functional bite splints to rearrange the bite surfaces; onlays, which are made to fit on top of your own teeth, without much need for cutting back your own teeth, through to crowns, which are more aggressive in their preparation. You need a dentist who can work with an articulator, and who has a very close relationship with his laboratory, as repositioning a bite is technically demanding, and needs to be right to be successful. A full reconstruction of the bite will be expensive, so be prepared, as it is not a task that can be shortcut. Hope that helps. |
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dimples Posted:
26/08/2008 11:28 |
| Hi Can anyone recommend a dentist just north of the border for carrying out implants? please email me your recommendations to mark.kevitt@gmail.com |
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hi in Dublin Posted:
26/08/2008 14:46 |
| Hi, Pearl Dental, Thanks very much for the information. That's very useful. Would prefer to go for a short-term option, just to solve the problem, and when more finance is available, go for something different. Thanks again. |
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Anonymous
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03/09/2008 11:04 |
| MIM: See my post below, where I give the site for a dental practice in Northern Ireland. Prices there are almost half they are in the ROI. It is important to see to your teeth as their condition does affect your general health too. |
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jersey Posted:
06/09/2008 19:58 |
| Hi, I had all my teeth removed over the last two years, i use polident and find that the lower teeth still very loose, is there some one other than my dentist who works only in this area, how much implants? |
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Anonymous
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23/09/2008 10:34 |
| CAN ANY ONE PLEASE TELL ME THE NAME OF A GOOD DENTIST IN DUBLIN THAT WILL DO IMPLANTS. I NEED 2 IMPLANTS. I JUST FEEL SO DOWN THAT I HAVE A MISSING TOOTH AT THE FRONT TOOTH. MY EMAIL IS taraclexton@eircom.net |
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Max Posted:
23/09/2008 19:18 |
| HI Anoymous posted 3-9-08 Can you please forward me the name of the fermanagh dentist you attended, my email is annking18@hotmail.com |
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joe79 Posted:
24/09/2008 16:42 |
| I've been quoted around 3,000 pounds for a straightforward implant in the North. The dentist came recommended as a specialist in this area. Should I be expecting to pay this kind of sum for a specialist or is this figure high, even for a specialist? |
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Pearldental Posted:
24/09/2008 19:43 |
| Hi Mim, Joe79 et al, plenty to answer since I last posted, so here we go. Simple one first- £3000 is definitiely high for standard implant, even with a specialist. The specialists I use in the North for referrals are about £1000 cheaper than that. Big difference. Even here in Dublin I would consider that very high. Check that there is no additional work in that quote such as bone grafting etc, and let me know if you want other specialist contacts to compare. Mim, you're a bit more complex by the sound of things, but you've obviously made a start on getting things sorted. I would certainly not advocate abroad for such a complex plan, as I have not yet seen an exceptional result from anywhere that claims to be 'Cheap', and you're too young to take chances on the end result. It needs to be good, both cosmetically, and technically (which is what a layperson cannot assess, and what decides the longterm stability of the work), so be sure you're getting a minimum of 5 years warranty on everything. Have you considered phasing the work, as it is often possible to get things looking great for a much more modest sum, and then over time bring in the more expensive and complex treatments? It's like a house makeover- a lick of paint hides most things, and you can then deal with the structural side without feeling self-conscious, which will transform your day to day living. We know full well that many people cannot afford the full works straight up, so we often come up with phased plans instead. Hope that helps, P |
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Anonymous
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24/09/2008 23:05 |
| Yes, Joe. That is too high. The implant is 2.000 pounds sterling maximum, with a very good dentist, plus there may be around 300 pounds or so for the preparatory work, depending. Usually there are five appointments required. Up in Belfast the price may be even less. Good luck |
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Anonymous
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25/09/2008 14:12 |
| can anyone recommend a good dentist that does implants i need 2 and since having to get two teeth out feel my life is one big mess im so upset and just wish i could get this sorted as my confidence has completing gone and if i could lock myself away i would but i have to work, my dentist said it would be 4000.00 euro for 1 and i couldnt afford that so could anyone recommend a dentist a bit cheaper my email address is taraclaxton@eircom.net |
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Anonymous
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25/09/2008 19:28 |
| AMT and Anonymous: i would definitely recommend you to go to Northern Ireland. The implants are cheaper, at around 2.000 sterling each (plus maybe 300 to 400 pounds for the preparatory work). The dentist will,and must, give you a quote in advance, but he or she will not do so by phone, obviously. You need to visit to be assessed, and based on that you will be given a price. It is worth it. |
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Dee Posted:
29/09/2008 08:49 |
| I've been interested to see the comments recently on the high cost of implants. I know from experience that it is possible to travel abroad and get high quality treatment more cheaply than at home. In the Algarve, in Portugal, there is a Belgian dentist who provides expert care and the cost of one implant (including crown) is 1600 euros. Even with the cost of a cheap flight to Faro and a night's accommodation, this is still far better value than the prices recently discussed. |
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Tom(HAW75841) Posted:
29/09/2008 09:20 |
| The Seapoint Clinic in Blackrock in Dublin will do Implants for €1900 if you are having more than one. For a single tooth they charge €2500, and it's all fully tax-deductible .. that's a bit better than a lot of guys up north and certainly isn't a rip off .. hope this helps |
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James A Posted:
29/09/2008 11:04 |
| Hi See Name ,address and contact number for Fermanagh dentist Sinead McEnhill is the dentist I attended Belmore Dental Studio, BT74 6AA. Classification: Dentists. 16, Belmore St, Enniskillen, County Fermanagh BT74 6AA. Tel: 028 6632 9222 ... my email jafeeney@eircom.net |
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Patricia(GMC11099) Posted:
29/09/2008 11:27 |
| Tom: That is definitely a very low price for implant treatment, and in Dublin at that! A friend of mine, and we are talking two years ago, sought a price in the southern part of the country and was quoted four thousand euro for an implant then. Therefore she had the work done in northern Ireland. P |
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AMT Posted:
29/09/2008 11:49 |
| Thank you so much for that Tom, I appreciate the information |
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Anonymous
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29/09/2008 12:05 |
| In Dublin for a single tooth they charge €2500 in Seapoint Clinic. Does that include the crown ? Or will that cost another 1000 + Euro. |
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Anonymous
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29/09/2008 12:22 |
| Thanks Pearldental and Anonymous. I've been quoted £400 for a CT scan for an implant in the north. Is the scan always necessary and does £400 for the scan seem about right? |
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Patricia(GMC11099) Posted:
29/09/2008 14:27 |
| To both the anonymouses: So, the Seapoint Dental Clinic is not as inexpensive as it would seem. You would need to find out if the crown (AND the preparatory work) are on top of the 2.500 Euro. Re the CAT scan. It would be best to ask the dentist WHY is this necessary. I certainly had no CAT scan done on me when I got my implant (X-rays yes, naturally). It is important to ask lots of questions when getting important and significantly expensive dental work done. All the best P |
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KiKi(OZE75914) Posted:
30/09/2008 16:28 |
| I had implant surgery on one of my upper front teeth years ago (maybe 8 or so) when I was in my early 20s. I had a new crown fit last year as the old one never matched my gum line. Since then, the crown has fallen out twice (once the day before Christmas Eve and the second time the day before Valentine's!). I was living out of the country at the time so had a temporary "flipper" fit which I have been using since. I have had xrays and the implant itself is still in excellent condition. I went back to my periodontist for the first time today since being back in the country. He says it's normal enough for crowns to come out, he sees it about twice a year. Though mine has come out twice IN a year!! He now wants to re-place the same crown, if I can find it. Does anyone know if this is normal practise?? I thought I was paying for something permanent?? |
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James A Posted:
30/09/2008 16:30 |
| Before I had my implants ,I had to have a cat scan in the Erne hospital. the reason low amount on bone available and also I was having sinus grafts done James a |
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hi in Dublin Posted:
01/10/2008 12:41 |
| I phoned Seapoint Clinic too, and it seems that just a visit would cost well over 150 euros if you include in the cost of X-rays; and that's just to assess you. No provision for PRSI. If anyone has names and addresses of dentists in the Algarve, south of France, Hungary, etc, I would love to get them. (I did do a trawl on the 'net looking for dentists in the Canaries, and specifically in Gran Canaria, but with no result as yet. The one dentist identified did not respond to the email (which was in English). Thanks. |
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Mim Posted:
01/10/2008 13:55 |
| Hi Pearldental; thanks for your reponse i think that u are right about not going abroad... I was wondering could you give me the name of a good dentist, bearing in mind that I am petriied of them so I would like someone who is good at dealing with nerves also!!! Thanks again |
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Anonymous
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01/10/2008 19:15 |
| I found blueappledental in Fermanagh very good. Excellent with nervous patients. See website for phone number and details. Not sure if taking on any more patients right now, but you could try. |
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Anxious Posted:
15/10/2008 14:19 |
| Pearldentist please can you email directly on smart_one100@hotmail.com because I would like to find out if will be able to see me at your dental practice. |
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Tom(HAW75841) Posted:
26/10/2008 07:50 |
| For the Record, The Seapoint Clinic rates of 2500 single implant and 1900 multiple implants DO include all preparatory work and the final tooth on top. (for uncomplicated cases) Yes, there is also a fee for consultation and diagnosis (usually €120 including a simple x-ray) And finally, Dental CT Scans are a revolution in the provision of modern dentistry. The diagnosic information that one gives means that it is fast becoming the Standard of First Class Care, not a fancy extra. Tom |
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Dee Posted:
28/10/2008 13:00 |
| For "Hi in Dublin" If you want a dentist in the Algarve who provides quality work at reasonable prices, then google "implants algarve" and check the site for the dentist in Albufeira - it comes up very near the top of the list. |
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Laurence(FET73170) Posted:
08/11/2008 08:12 |
| I’ve been reading up on dental x-rays and dental CT scans and find that almost all dental clinics in Ireland use *medical* CT scans, not CT scans specific to dentistry. Seapoint Clinic uses medical CT scanning. The difference is that medical CT scanning involves scanning the head and not just the teeth. This means you get a much higher radiation dose. I called around and Northbrook Clinic is only clinic I found in Dublin that has offers the more modern CT Cone Beam Scanning (15a Northbrook Road, Ranelagh, Dublin 6, (01) 4967111 From what I read, Cone Beam Scanning focuses on a band of both upper and lower jaws and teeth. As well, it is fast. The radiation dose is fifty to 100 times LESS than what you’d get with medical CT scanning. Anyone planning dental implants should definitely first look into Cone Beam. |
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lia(LLY73665) Posted:
08/11/2008 16:28 |
| Hi, I was visiting Seapoint Clinic last October and the doctor I met was very nice and I don't think they are expensive at all. It is just it is a bit slow to wait the feedback from them. More than a month I am still waiting for the bonegraft job confirmation. |
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Max Posted:
10/11/2008 22:24 |
| Hi Sandy Can you email me the name of the Dentist in Spain (Malaga) that you had implants and crowns done please. my email address is as follows powerbreda@yahoo.co.uk Many thanks Breda |
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Tom(HAW75841) Posted:
11/11/2008 08:15 |
| For the Record Again Thank-you Laurence, The Seapoint Clinic does use a dental (and maxillo facial) Cone Beam CT Scanner called a NewTom 3G and not a medical one. Yes, we get people to lie down to have their scan taken rather than standing up. We find this produces better images and less movement. And Sandy, many thanks for your contribution. Nearly all good Irish Implantologists use the same techniques you describe. Your assertion that they have had "no problems from any client" is very misleading to the public however. Anyone who does implants has failures. it is accepted that failure rates are around the 2-3% mark. Anyone who says they have never had a failure simply hasn't been doing implants for long enough. |
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Tom(HAW75841) Posted:
11/11/2008 08:20 |
| To Lia, Our apologies for the delay. I've looked for the name "Lia" on our system and cant find you. Could you drop us an email and i'll make sure you get looked after. Bone grafting however is quite a lengthly process. It usually takes around 6 months for a good graft to solidify before it's useful. I hope everything goes well for you. Regards Tom |
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sandy Posted:
11/11/2008 21:11 |
| "Nearly all good Irish Implantologists use the same techniques you describe". I am unconvinced at this statement for i did my own brief survey of two centres in Dublin ( one well known to you and one in the north.) all were very helpful but all indicated a need to open up a flap to facilitate the implanting, however small, with suturing to close at the end. No one that represented the three centres that I spoke to were familiar with the specific technique at all. These are not my words, they are those of the representatives of the three centres with whom I enquired about receiving the implant treatment! |
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Laurence(FET73170) Posted:
12/11/2008 16:12 |
| Tom: How much radiation is there in your method and procedure? ++++ Tom (HAW75841) Posted: 11/11/2008 08:15 For the Record Again Thank-you Laurence, The Seapoint Clinic does use a dental (and maxillo facial) Cone Beam CT Scanner called a NewTom 3G and not a medical one. Yes, we get people to lie down to have their scan taken rather than standing up. We find this produces better images and less movement. |
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Pearldental Posted:
12/11/2008 21:06 |
| Hi Sandy et al, apologies for the lack of postings recently, but I have been under the surgeons knife myself, and experiencing the complications of keyhole surgery that doesn't quite work out as expected. All good now, so back on track again. Lots of new posts since my last, and plenty of interesting issues raised. Sandy, your suggestion that the flapless technique is the most modern and up to date technique available, and by inference that it should be practiced by every up to date surgeon is incorrect. It is a great technique when appropriate, but is most certainly not suitable for every case. One of the main reasons for lifting a flap is to see the bone underneath and assess the site fully, and in many cases this is the most appropriate method of achieving best placement for the implant. I quite agree that all up to date implant surgeons should be well aware of the technique, as it is well documented in many of our journals, but it is not the only method of implant placement that should be practiced. Correct use of the flapless technique should always involve a CAT scan to allow full visualisation of the bone, which is obviously not possible at surgery, and for simple cases this adds significant expense to the cost of the procedure, and is unnecessary if a small flap is raised. For multiple placements, a scan is invaluable, and the cost benefit too great to ignore. Flaps must also be raised if additional bone is required for aesthetics or deficiency infills, and will also be required if bone remodelling is required. In large precision placement cases, we have guides made to locate the ideal implant sites, and these are made to fit against the bone itself, and are generated from the CAT scan models. This is one of the most advanced and recent developments in implant surgery, but always requires a flap to be raised. These are a few of the issues that we must consider when treatment planning a case, and much as the flapless technique was great for your situation, it is not an option for many cases we see. Congratulations on the successful outcome of your case, but as with every country, Ireland included, not every case is as pleasant as yours. I currently have a Spanish girl under treatment who flew to Madrid for her implants 18 months ago, and was left with 3 entirely unrestorable implants, which have to be removed, bone grafts placed, and assuming healing is successful, new implants placed. Being Spanish, she is able to pursue the case through the legal avenues in Spain, but this is a much more difficult scenario if you don't have the language, or knowledge of the legal system in the country in which you undertake treatment. Finally for now, a CAT scan is a great development in implant surgery,but is not indicated for every case. The more complex the case, the more crucial a CAT scan becomes, but like every tool we have, the cost benefit must be sufficient to warrant its use, as radiation, even though in small doses in modern dental scanners, is still not something we recommend without good reason. Enjoy your new smile Sandy, and hopefully we will hear more good stories here as the thread continues, P |
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Pearldental Posted:
12/11/2008 23:04 |
| Sorry Kiki, forgot to reply to yours! Generally when we place implants, we aim to make the implant itself (the bit in the bone) the strongest link, the post (fits into implant and emerges through gum into the mouth) the next strongest element, and the crown (the 'tooth' you see) the weakest link, for the simple reason that the crown is the easiest and cheapest part to repair, replace or adjust. I would always tell my patients that crown looosening is a possibility, albeit rare, and don't charge for recementing any crowns that do come loose (if I have made them) in the first 5 years. After this time frame, a small fee applies, but crown loosening after this time is very rare. You should have been advised that an implant is intended to be a lifetime solution, but many factors affect the likelihood of this being achieved, and we would expect that some crowns may need replacing at some point. Different dentists have different approaches to this problem, and the fees charged for a crown remake vary considerably. If you have the original crown, it is not a big job to repair it if necessary and replace it. If the old crown is gone, it becomes more complicated and more expensive. If a crown loosens, we usually use a slightly stronger cement second time, and you should also ensure that the bite on the crown is checked, as this is the most common reason for failure. I rarely see crown loosening more than once. Hope that helps, and post back if you have more questions, P |
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newbi Posted:
30/01/2009 22:26 |
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Pearldental, you seem to be very knowledgeable, I am presuming that you are a dentist.. I am having some work done and three dental implant crowns are costing 8,000... (the implant surgery is being done by a oral surgeon who is specialist and is charging separately for that). I presume this also covers the cost of temp crowns after the surgery while waiting on the bone to heal..is this a crazy price or reasonable for a specialist in crowns?? it seems like alot but presumably crowns come in differing qualities |
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DentalInFrance Posted:
02/02/2009 15:34 |
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Newbi, That is expensive even for 3 crowns including 3 implants and temporary crowns! A implant-mounted crown should be €800 at most and somewhat less for intermediary crowns on a bridge. Generally porcelain-fused-to-metal crowns are used for molars whereas the more fragile "all porcelain" crowns can be used for more visible front teeth as they are said to have a "transparent" effect similar to real teeth. That being said, an experienced prosthesist will be able to tailor make your crowns to suit your face and colouring for the most natural effect. |
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Pearldental Posted:
02/02/2009 19:18 |
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Hi Newbi, Ow, that's steep. I would generally expect a fee of approx E9000 in total for surgery AND restorations, and that's using my specialist oral surgeon. If his services were not required, and the case were straightforward such that a suitably trained general dentist like myself were able to undertake the surgery, I would expect that fee to drop by at least E1500, including everything from start to finish. I'm not saying that those fees are unreasonable, as I obviously don't know all the relevant details for the case, but there would have to be some serious complications or restorative demands to make those fees justifiable. Are you certain that the quote is not for the entire procedure, including surgery, as we often try to quote for an entire case, as opposed to fees being separate for different parts of the treatment, and were that the case, the fee looks far more respectable? If that is solely for the restorative stage, ask the dentist to run you through how those fees stack up, and why so high. If there's justification, fair enough, if not, you can consider your options and decide how to proceed. Hope that helps, and let us how you get on, Cheers, P |
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newbi Posted:
02/02/2009 21:29 |
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DentalinFrance, is 800 not quite cheep? are you a dentist?? do you know what the name of gold standard crowns are? |
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jessi8383 Posted:
04/02/2009 09:15 |
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He newbi, I have been to a dentist in spain. normally i was a bit afraid to go to a dentist abroad but as i saw how much i could save i decided to go for it! I paid for an implant 790€ and the service was brilliant. The dentist was in Torrevieja Spain so i also had a lovely holiday! |
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DentalInFrance Posted:
04/02/2009 09:40 |
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Bonjour PearlDental, I am not a dentist but arrange oral surgery packages with a leading implant specialist (and maxillofacial urgeon) in the south of France. The price of a single TBR implant+core+crown is €2200 including x-rays/consultations. The prosthesis laboratory is on site so prices and turnaround times are minimised. Prices of white/yellow gold crowns vary with the price of gold per gramme. Your advice must help a lot of people get a better understanding of their treatment options. Let me know if ever we can assist you. Laurent. |
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Pearldental Posted:
04/02/2009 22:02 |
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Hi Newbi, and Bonjour M. DentalInFrance, Newbi, I think what you're asking is for the types of crown we may use that would be considered high end? The most recent, and possibly most exciting development as far as dentists are concerned, is the use of all ceramic cores and crowns for the restoration stage of implants. This eliminates many aesthetic problems we face when trying to hide metal work, and is also showing evidence of increased bio-compatibility over Titanium or gold posts. This type of restoration would be more expensive, but only by 200-500 euro max per tooth, depending on complexity and aesthetic demands. The material is usually called Zirconia, but there are other names that may be used also. It is not indicated for all restorations yet,but for high aesthetic results, it would be the Gold Standard you are looking for. The other cost issue is the laboratory fee we pay, and this can vary wildly, from E200 per crown, up to E1000 and more. This variation is very specifically linked to the aesthetic demands, and personally I would always leave the decision on how far we go in this regard to the patient, as whatever we do should be adequate in terms of fit and function, and how extreme you wish to be over the appearance is a personal issue from patient to patient. None of you are the same! M. DentalInFrance. Welcome to the thread, and thanks for the information. I will keep your details in mind, as we obviously have patients who travel and move around regularly, and a contact near wherever they may be going is most useful. Which implant systems are you working with in the main? You can mail me directly at paul@pearltreatments.ie, as I guess most people here are not too interested in too much technical talk! Cheers all, and good dental health, P |
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Dellon Posted:
05/02/2009 11:34 |
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Hi i was interested in having dental implants in Ireland but the cost is over the roof and i have seen the message about the dental clinic in Spain,i would be very interested in having some dental work done and hgaving a holiday at the same time please can you tell me some more about the clinic in Spain??did you have treatment there??how did it go?? Dellon |
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newbi Posted:
05/02/2009 18:34 |
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thanks for that, can I ask another question? is a 'mock up' usually done so the patient/ customer knows what it is all going to look like or is it russian roulette and a ridiculously large amount of trust is given to the dentist??? I know there is a general look dentists go for but shape of face, eyes etc are all mportant and teeth change the shape of your face- is there a computer programme that you use for this in a similar vein to architects and when you pay alot should you expect this?? |
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sandy Posted:
05/02/2009 22:05 |
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Dellon, I have been very pleased with my dental work in Spain. I had it done in Fuengirola. contact me if you want to know any details. As you say the value is excellent as well. sandy |
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Pearldental Posted:
06/02/2009 15:29 |
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Hi Newbi, You're quite right, there is a lot of trust placed in the dentist, but there are several methods of pre-visualisation that we may use if we are dramatically changing your appearance. The most straightforward is to use photos of your smile and teeth as they are to begin, and to use a smile design program or specialist laboratory to create the new smile into the photo, giving you the chance to see how it should look. We may also create the smile on models of your teeth, to check that it will fit with your bite. My preferred option is to create the new smile in the mouth in provisional restorations, which can then be adjusted and remodelled as often as required to achieve the appearance we require before we go to final restorations. The final decision should always be left to you, and even if we go as far as final restorations, and find that the appearance is not as desired, I will usually photograph the restorations in the mouth, and then return them to the laboratory for adjustments, using the photos to outline what is incorrect. You should never accept the work until you are happy, and if your dentist doesn't like that idea, leave and go elsewhere! You're the one wearing the smile for the next 20 years or so, so you want to be happy with it! Cheers, P |
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ross Posted:
09/02/2009 00:04 |
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Hi everybody. i just moved to ireland few months ago. in the last couple of days i was looking for a good dentist near to where i live, but i had no luck until today when i came cross medpages.ie. i thought to let you guys know if you're looking for any healthcare provider you can login to new medical directory. www.medpages.ie |
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jessi8383 Posted:
09/02/2009 13:48 |
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Hi Dellon, You want to have the details from the dentist in spain. It is: "pro dental care", in Torrevieja on the costa blanca (very nice beaches),spain. Yes i had treatment done with them and it was fantastic.The whole team and the dentists there are so nice. They helped me with everything. They also pick you up from the airport and they take you to your hotel or apartment. If you want they also pick you up for the appointments and bring you back to the hotel, apartment. It was fantastic, no stress nothing. I also had a lovely holiday there, it was beautyfull. So just to let you know dont be afraid!!!!!!! |
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newbi Posted:
09/02/2009 16:51 |
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Well i just looked up most of the specialities in dublin on 'medpages' and there were no listings. Under general dentistry in dublin (presumably the whole of dublin) 2 practices came up- so you must have been very lucky to have found a dentist in your area- being either walkinstown or terenure, where there are only 2 general dentists , no oral maxio facial dentist, no periodontist, no prothodontists, no endodontists/ cosmetic dentists, no pediatric dentists.... |
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Pearldental Posted:
10/02/2009 13:41 |
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Hmmm, I smell a bit of advertising......? Medpages? Never heard of it until now. There are plenty of sites available with more than 2 practices to choose from, and guess what- the Golden Pages have loads of them! P |
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orls Posted:
13/02/2009 13:02 |
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hi just wondering if anyone can help me, ive need to have a dental implant anyone know any good place to have one done in dublin, would really appreciate an email thanks orlsfitz@yahoo.co.uk |
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johnnyboy Posted:
21/07/2009 20:15 |
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i would be greatful if someone could emal me dentist's address or email in torrevieja or elsewhere in spain my email johnnywindows2@gmail.com |
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kiwiana Posted:
16/11/2009 03:35 |
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I have been advised that I need implant-retained over-dentures or implant supported bridgework - very interested in threads by Pearldental and DentalInFrance - as I spend 6 mths a year in France would like to hear how I can contact DentalInFrance. |
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DentalInFrance Posted:
18/11/2009 16:49 |
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Hi Kiwiana, Apparently, the website rules don't allow me to answer your question directly! May I suggest googling Dentalinfrance and the contact details will show up in the search results... |
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Pearldental Posted:
19/11/2009 23:04 |
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Hi Kiwiana, DentalInFrance are quite correct- this is not designed as an advertising portal, but an information forum to ensure that people are able to obtain as much information as possible on their treatment to help in their decision making. You have obviously had some assessment or advice already as to your requirements, and I am assuming that you are aware of the differences between the 2 treatment options you have mentioned. You will find much good advice in this forum to aid in selecting the right clinic for your requirements, and if you are resident in 2 different countries for long periods of time, you obviously have more realistic options than most. As I have repeatedly stated, the concept of dental tourism is one with which I have many issues, and I am currently involved in several cases for we are trying to obtain legal redress for the costs involved in remedial work to correct the poor quality treatment provided to some of our patients, (not all, as we see some perfectly acceptable work, but when it goes wrong, it is generally very wrong!). We may finally have located a legal representative who is willing to take on these cases, as we are yet to succeed in obtaining any refund or compensation for even a single patient, and if we are successful, the quality of treatment provided should improve, as there is currently no comeback in many of these cases. If you are living in a country, you are obviously in a much better position to access after care, maintenance and lengthy treatment plans, in which case you can select the clinic most suited to your specific taste and requirements. Good luck, and mail back if you require more information, P |
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northsider Posted:
12/01/2010 23:43 |
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I dont understand why anyone would go abroad for implant work . I had an implant placed in dublin and it cost only 1800 euros was even cheaper and far better than having a bridge. |
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cosmo Posted:
13/01/2010 13:01 |
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Hi there Kiwiana, just saw your post, did you know u could get mini dental implants for a lower overdenture free if you are a VHI member. People generally require 4 and I think most surgeries which provide them, certainly at our practice, only charge 500 euro each. (and they wil generally qualify for tax back through the med 2 form at 20%). If you currently wear full lower dentures this treatment is likely to really enhance your life as an unstable lower denture can be one of the hardest things many people have to accept as they get older. A secure prosthesis will open up a whole range of foods which can be eaten again, almost certainly improving general health through better nutrition for example, and improve confidence in social situations- I'm beginning to sound like an advertisment for them! Seriously though, they are very quick and easy way to solve what is a huge issue for many people. (With very little discomfort involved in the vast majority of situations) |
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Pearldental Posted:
14/01/2010 21:30 |
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Hi All, Glad to see a few positive posts on costs and treatment in Ireland for a change. Implant costs have certainly reduced considerably over the past few years, and you would generally expect to pay around €2000 approx for a standard, uncomplicated implant. Be aware that many cases are not simply straight forward, and costs will increase as complexity increases, and careful planning and assessment is crucial to success, (which is one of the big issues we come across with dental tourism, whereby planning is often carried out over the internet, with minimal, if any, one to one assessment, and visits to the surgeon kept to a minimum). Generally, a minimum of 5 visits will be required for the completion of a standard implant placement and restoration. Mini- implants are much cheaper, as indicated in the post from Cosmo, but are limited in their indications, and are generally not considered a long term solution for single tooth replacements, but are very successful for denture anchors, or for short term use in certain situations. When comparing fees for implants, check that all assessments, x-rays, review and follow up visits are included in the fee. Check also that you are comparing lke with like, as there are several cheaper implant systems that are not as well researched or developed as some of the more widely used systems, and this will impact on cost also. The dentist should be happy to advise you of the system that he uses, and can also give literature or internet links to allow you to research the system yourself. Finally, check the guarantee given with the implant. I would expect a minimum of 5 years cover on the entire work, meaning that no cost would be incurred by the patient for any failure in this time frame, (subject to certain criteria). Be wary of some of the 'lifetime guarantees' offered, particularly abroad, as the small print can be somewhat restrictive! Finally, check that you will be given the chance to assess the appearance of the crown(s) before final fitting, to ensure that the appearance is ideal, as you should not be expected to accept a crown if it does not closely match the adjacent teeth. Finally, check that your dentist has access to a specialist oral surgeon for a second opinion or referral if required, as there are many implant cases that require more advanced techniques than those provided by a general dentist trained in implant placement, and should a specialist be required, the cost will obviously be higher. Hopefully that will give you a few pointers on what to look for in your implant provider, and always remember that cost should never be the sole factor in deciding in whom to trust for this technically advanced surgical procedure. Cheers, P |
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Sarge Posted:
12/07/2010 23:12 |
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as a new member I am interested to see that some dentists in Dublin have been recommended as cheap. in particular in contributions from Lisa, Northsider and Cathy- though some time back. Would appreciate if I could get details of these or any other dentists and their prices for crowns, implants and bridges and possibly implants. thanks |
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kelly27cakes Posted:
17/07/2010 15:18 |
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hi i had to get a tooth out recently -4th from front so i am consious of it when i smile. The dentise advised me of a dental implant of which i would be referred to a specialist in Dublin. The cost will be around e3500!!! This is crazy. I would prefer get it done in Ireland and with a specialist i am referred to by my own dentist so i have more comeback. When i questioned the price, i was told this is the general for a tooth implant. I dont want a bridge by any means. Could someone send me info. or advice or maybe the names of some dentists they went to to get this done maybe i can do this externally. Also do i have to pay upfront or can i pay in installments say over a 2 year period? I have heard of cases where it cannot be done due to not enough bone but she took an x-ray of my teeth and im sure she wouldnt refer me to a specialist if this could not be done. Will any PRSI cover this? |
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